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gunnar wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 4:18 am
Fergenaprido wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 4:15 am

Still no awards yet, though.
I did the old 'check a film from a list I should have an award on, wait until I get a message about an award update, and then uncheck the film' trick and I soon had all of the awards for the new lists.
Yeah, I thought of doing that, but I don't like those phantom checks then showing up in my activity/history.

Plus, I just want the system to work properly and efficiently. :sweat:
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Torgo wrote: January 1st, 2023, 8:00 pm
kongs_speech wrote: December 31st, 2022, 5:53 pm
blocho wrote: December 31st, 2022, 5:46 pm I'm guessing there will be a lot of movement in the 1910s and pre-1910s list as the check-motivated people gobble up the newly official shorts.
I'm on it. B)
"check-motivated people", huh? Is that some politically correct newspeak for what that kind of person really is? WE USED TO CALL THEM DIFFERENT among these parts ... :cowbow:
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MMDan wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 2:43 am
Torgo wrote: January 1st, 2023, 8:00 pm "check-motivated people", huh? Is that some politically correct newspeak for what that kind of person really is? WE USED TO CALL THEM DIFFERENT among these parts ... :cowbow:
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There we are!
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Torgo wrote: January 1st, 2023, 3:54 am BAFTA British is at 32/51, I'd wonder if that didn't put me into the Top 500 after the other British lists are finished by me in that regard.
Phew @BAFTA, #425, just about my performance for the other Brits.
Been a little surprised to see the very mid ranks for some of the decades - 1920s #404, 1930s #433, 1910s & Pre-1910s also only #326 & #419; I left my history of hunting out <4-minute shorts which will give me a quick check and in 90% of the cases nothing of personal interest .. behind me. (For now.)

Torgo wrote: January 1st, 2023, 3:54 am A #100 spot for the 2020s list could be possible, eh? And I'm about to watch MORE of those! All hail the current days!
1990s: 96/100 -> #31
2000s: 97/100 -> #30
2010s: 90/100 -> #50
2020s: 59/100 -> #45

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Curiously, the overall rankings seem to have just updated, but the official check counts didn't change. Weird.
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The ranks are updated now. For 1970s i've seen Solyaris in the meantime so that's the rank still for 15/100 (not that it'll matter much).

As I thought close to top 1000 for the 2010s list (which is immediately my fourth best list in terms of ranks). The 2020s i'm better ranked in as well even if i've barely focused on it but that might to some extent also reflect that a lot of users on this site didn't log in for a while and update their checks or be inactive. The 2000s rank is solid too while 1910s and 1920s you probably don't need many checks to have a decent rank. The two weakest decades for me in terms of rank are 1930s and 1940s which make sense if i have films like Casablanca and Citizen Kane and the majority on those lists left unchecked.

I added the IMDb ranks to the right for comparisons.
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gunnar wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 4:18 am
Fergenaprido wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 4:15 am

Still no awards yet, though.
I did the old 'check a film from a list I should have an award on, wait until I get a message about an award update, and then uncheck the film' trick and I soon had all of the awards for the new lists.
Yup, did that too when the lists went up. Checking something you haven't seen and unchecking it works too :D

I don't know my stats from the pre-1910's and 1910's (I gobbled some up :ICM: ), but currently I'm at:

BAFTA - 36/51 --> rank 226
pre-1910s - 100/100 --> rank 1
1910s - 87/100 --> rank 4
1920s - 79/100 --> rank 135
1930s - 79/100 --> rank 162
1940s - 82/100 --> rank 368
1950s - 93/100 --> rank 198
1960s - 88/100 --> rank 289
1970s - 85/100 --> rank 192
1980s - 86/100 --> rank 134
1990s - 88/100 --> rank 182
2000s - 92/100 --> rank 91
2010s - 91/100 --> rank 42
2020s - 53/100 --> rank 103

As I'd hoped (and kind of expected given my platinum IMDb decade lists) this doesn't mess with my 500 Club plans :cowbow:
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tfw DESTROYING a famous #84 elite-user in regards to rankings from 1990-2020: ^_^

Hey I never achieved much in my life, but once I had 2 more films watched on that list that the celebrity from the Netherworld hadn't. King for a day.
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:lol:
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gunnar wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 4:18 am
Fergenaprido wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 4:15 am

Still no awards yet, though.
I did the old 'check a film from a list I should have an award on, wait until I get a message about an award update, and then uncheck the film' trick and I soon had all of the awards for the new lists.
I did the old 'uncheck something that I already have and then check it again' trick. Works as well.
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erde wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 6:21 am
gunnar wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 4:18 am
I did the old 'check a film from a list I should have an award on, wait until I get a message about an award update, and then uncheck the film' trick and I soon had all of the awards for the new lists.
I did the old 'uncheck something that I already have and then check it again' trick. Works as well.
I’ve used that one before, too.

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Lists aren't updating - I didn't get my award for the Pre-Code list.
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Not even with the trick described above?
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I'm mad that it threw off my stats, but I did the trick and it worked. 120 awards now.
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Not that it is important for me, but i think these images have to be updated yet and i thought i would let others know (in case the issue wasn't known yet).
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Had to check uncheck as well.
New lists killed my Top 25 Club & my #AllBronze ...
Position 105 @ the 1910 Pre-List : You guys are fast ;)

Back to hunting the Last missings ...

As a lot of officials arrives i can provide an Updated Official Film & List Excel to anyone interested
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Tim2460 wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 7:37 am Had to check uncheck as well.
New lists killed my Top 25 Club & my #AllBronze ...
Position 105 @ the 1910 Pre-List : You guys are fast ;)

Back to hunting the Last missings ...

As a lot of officials arrives i can provide an Updated Official Film & List Excel to anyone interested
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Tim2460 wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 7:37 amI can provide an Updated Official Film & List Excel to anyone interested
Please, Tim. That would be very helpful. :thumbsup:
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Where I rank on the new lists without trying to improve my progress (yet):

Image - #78

Image - #150

Image - #440

Image - #497

I'm outside the top 500 for the rest.

I'm very surprised that I'm so high up for Best British Film but even more surprised that I'm so high up for the current decade - and without even a bronze on the list. Something to do with a possibly declining userbase? :shrug:
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Nice addition, cheers. Very glad its top-100 and not 50 (altho would prefer 250s :P )

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sol wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 10:28 am I'm very surprised that I'm so high up for Best British Film but even more surprised that I'm so high up for the current decade - and without even a bronze on the list. Something to do with a possibly declining userbase? :shrug:
I think it mostly has to do with availability. Recent films are pretty difficult to get by. Many of these films have not even been on french screens, for example...
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What is https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/smiling+friends/ exactly ?

The whole series .... or just one épisode ?
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The IMDb link goes to the whole series. I'd never heard of the show before, but it looks like the first season has 9 episodes (so far) that run 100 minutes total.
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Most are on YT ...
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John Milton wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 8:19 am
Tim2460 wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 7:37 amI can provide an Updated Official Film & List Excel to anyone interested
Please, Tim. That would be very helpful. :thumbsup:

Here's an small extract from my excel List :

I just kept yesterday's Official Film on the first sheet.
I usualy Put an X on the T Collum if i have checked the film, W if it's on my watchlist.
The W and X Collum are my numbering scheme i use for my collection, roughly sorted by the number of lists a film was 2-3 years ago... If you dan't wanna use it ... just delete the W&X Collums.

On the Lists Sheet, You can Fill The watchlist (G) & Checked (J) Collum and it should compute the number of films you need to gain Awards on the X/Y/Z/AA collums and the missing film you need to locate on the H Collum.
Here again, collector collums ;)

I have a way to autofill the collums from an copy/paste the progress page .... But it's not that easy to explain and very manual.

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Tim2460 wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 2:38 pm What is https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/smiling+friends/ exactly ?

The whole series .... or just one épisode ?
Oh don't bother, it will be removed anyway, was just tagged wrongly on IMDb.
cinephage wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 1:11 pm
sol wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 10:28 am I'm very surprised that I'm so high up for Best British Film but even more surprised that I'm so high up for the current decade - and without even a bronze on the list. Something to do with a possibly declining userbase? :shrug:
I think it mostly has to do with availability. Recent films are pretty difficult to get by. Many of these films have not even been on french screens, for example...
Mh, I honestly think it's a thinned out userbase and so many people not being up to date because they don't care enough :)
Even in the Forum we have several people who've seen like 10-20 titles from the 2020s list. They either will catch up during the next couple of years or will forever live in the dark times, enjoying the French New Wave and Classic Hollywood until the last theaters in town give up the ghost.
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blocho wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 4:35 am
Torgo wrote: January 1st, 2023, 8:00 pm "check-motivated people", huh? Is that some politically correct newspeak for what that kind of person really is? WE USED TO CALL THEM DIFFERENT among these parts ... :cowbow:
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I wonder if CWERFs are already a thing somewhere on Twitter.
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Torgo wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 3:51 pm
nimimerkillinen wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 10:49 am Im at
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We all go a little Cwerfy sometimes.... At least I do. It usually fades again :rolleyes:

I'm back to Kiarostami now, after totally whoring myself to the pre-1910's shorts. But I do actually love early cinema, so it doesn't feel that way to me. Well, maybe a little. I did descend on 'em like a hungry vulture, with loud Wagner in the background :D
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John Milton wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 5:35 pm We all go a little Cwerfy sometimes.... At least I do. It usually fades again :rolleyes:

I'm back to Kiarostami now, after totally whoring myself to the pre-1910's shorts. But I do actually love early cinema, so it doesn't feel that way to me. Well, maybe a little. I did descend on 'em like a hungry vulture, with loud Wagner in the background :D
I've watched quite a few and will hopefully watch them all soon. I expect there still to be a few changes unless more people favourite them.

Love the new lists. Best thing to happen on icm since they made 500<400 official. I'm even thinking of finally using the favourites feature properly on icm.
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cinephage wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 1:11 pm
sol wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 10:28 am I'm very surprised that I'm so high up for Best British Film but even more surprised that I'm so high up for the current decade - and without even a bronze on the list. Something to do with a possibly declining userbase? :shrug:
I think it mostly has to do with availability. Recent films are pretty difficult to get by. Many of these films have not even been on french screens, for example...
This. :thumbsup:

We've debated the "declining userbase" fallacy multiple times in multiple threads, including with data. Let's not drag this thread into that conversation as well, please.
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Tim2460 wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 2:38 pm What is https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/smiling+friends/ exactly ?

The whole series .... or just one épisode ?
Oh don't bother, it will be removed anyway, was just tagged wrongly on IMDb.
It was wrong on icm, not imdb. I posted about the correction earlier in this thread, and it was already removed from the list yesterday with the first round of list updates.
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Just wanted to point out that, for Le château hanté (1897), if you watched the video in el-thedeath's comment, you watched the wrong film.
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So I just did a thing.

Since the new lists come out a battle I've been having against myself and the way I use iCM has been brought back to life. Basically when I first started using iCM and imported my ratings I set it as >6 to favourite and <5 to dislike which left me with some really big numbers as seen here

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Anyway, with these new lists I am worried my weird way of doing things maybe skewed the scores a little bit (yeah I know I'm only one person but on an obscurity it may mean officialdom when it shouldn't actually be there). So I just imported my data again but in the process I could change my stats to be in line with other places. Now my favourites must at least be an 8 and dislikes no higher than a 3. Here are my new stats

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The problem I know have is that in nuking my account I lost nearly 1000 checks of movies I have watched before I started rating in July 2016, including a ton of official checks. Now I need to decide do I go back and check the majority of them again to keep my rank or leave it as just a snapshot of since I've began my journey as a "Cinephile" and go back to making my watches official.
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:satstunned: :satstunned:
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brb just reserving "heckmovies.com" because it sounds like such a cool website
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AdamH wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 6:45 pm
John Milton wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 5:35 pm We all go a little Cwerfy sometimes.... At least I do. It usually fades again :rolleyes:

I'm back to Kiarostami now, after totally whoring myself to the pre-1910's shorts. But I do actually love early cinema, so it doesn't feel that way to me. Well, maybe a little. I did descend on 'em like a hungry vulture, with loud Wagner in the background :D
Love the new lists. Best thing to happen on icm since they made 500<400 official. I'm even thinking of finally using the favourites feature properly on icm.
I actually added my 9/10s and 10/10s as favs 2 days ago, given otherwise every check I did or had would be a "dislike" essentially. I also like the new lists.
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I try not to play favorites. It may go back to my teaching background.
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So now another issue. I was just going to make a list of everything I had seen but haven't checked to make a need to rewatch list just to find that movies I have rated didn't cross over properly. In the end 170 movies won't cross over including some very important checks. :mw_confused: :circle: :shrug:
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In that discussion, I favorite anything 9/10 and dislike anything 1/2, and I do not favorite/dislike (or rate on IMDb) any shorts; only feature length or longer. Which is why I only have 250 favorites and 110 dislikes, despite 5000+ checks.
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I used to use dislike button but since resetting my ICM account, i decided not to bother with that (i didn't import from IMDb too), so I don't use the dislike button. And the number of dislikes isn't used in calculating the position of these films and whether they appear on the ICM decade lists, although it's easy to quickly see whether a film is universally popular, a hate or love it film (or just neutral/ambivalent), or mostly hated.
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Have I already mentioned how cool I find the ICM hivemind filmbuff taste? :hug:

It often leads me to cases like this, which I haven't seen yet but already gets me excited: Lucky Star (1929)
.. and which always make me wonder: #11 on our 1920s list (a decade where it's rivaling a staggering amount of masterpieces, beloved by cinephiles through the decades). #166 on the overall ICM Favorite list. Also present in the IMDb 1920 list with a pretty good score (7.8), and other than that .. somewhere in the middle of Paul Rotha's 300+ silent list. NOWHERE, I repeat, nowhere to be found in the SilentEra list, a Top 300 dedicated only to this artform. Somewhere in DtC, another 100% fan based internet project. Not. On a. Single. Critics List. (1000 polls, the canonTM and stuff)
Isn't that unbelievable? How come us check folks love these gems so much and scholars and film historians looked over it?
(There are other cases in the history of <400 if you observe that for a while)
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