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ICMFFF2022: Main Slate & Highlights [TALKING IMAGES]

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ICMFFF2022 is here again! It is the 6th edition and we are still going strong, and with a more unusual line-up than ever before.

Our centrepiece is a documentary (and what a film it is) and we have two completely different animated films in the main slate, with pretty much every genre represented.

In this episode, we have gathered 4 of the programmers to talk through each of the 10 films in the main slate and talk through the highlights from the rest of the 50 film program.

Listen in and discover why you should seek out these hidden gems.

You Can Listen Here:

Sounder: https://talking-images.sounder.fm/episo ... icmfff2022

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/15K5rpG5ldSpgh1UDrGoLy

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1 ... 0585994514

Participants:
  • Brett / Fergenaprido
  • Sol / Sol
  • Tom / Filmbantha
  • Chris / St. Gloede
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- How many have you seen from the complete line-up: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icmf ... am/beavis/

- Which is your favourite film so far?

- Which slate are you most excited for?

- What do you like the most/least about ICMFFF?

- Would you ever become a programmer?

And as always, feel free to jump in on any of the discussions in the episode, either here or in the respective slate threads.
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Listening to the podcast, I am surprised by how surprised some of the programmers were by Caught in the Net. I mean I really expect stuff like this, not just paedophiles but psychopaths are all around the place. If the next Hitler comes along, people will line up to staff the torture chambers. Child pornography is so common that you often won't be arrested for it now, because it's just so common that they would fill the courts up, they focus more on people distributing now. I got that from a CID detective. Maybe that's why I'm surprised it got picked for the festival. YouTube is full of videos of paedophile hunting exploits, this is just the same with production values.

I give you this quote from Hitchcock's Shadow of the Doubt as my touchstone:
You think you know something, don't you? You think you're the clever little girl who knows something. There's so much you don't know, so much. What do you know, really? You're just an ordinary little girl, living in an ordinary little town. You wake up every morning of your life and you know perfectly well that there's nothing in the world to trouble you. You go through your ordinary little day, and at night you sleep your untroubled ordinary little sleep, filled with peaceful stupid dreams. And I brought you nightmares. Or did I? Or was it a silly, inexpert little lie? You live in a dream. You're a sleepwalker, blind. How do you know what the world is like? Do you know the world is a foul sty? Do you know, if you rip off the fronts of houses, you'd find swine? The world's a hell. What does it matter what happens in it? Wake up, Charlie. Use your wits. Learn something.
This is why I'm no good at parties, people don't want this sort of perspective. Obvs I do think what happens matters, the main thing I refer to a lot is the image of the fronts of houses being ripped off and swine being found. That's one of the greatest images in film history, albeit it happens in each viewer's mind rather than on the screen. Although strangely, Caught in the Net does have an image like this where it shows you tonnes of houses across the city, with the same implication, behind a lot of those windows are people enjoying kiddie porn.

I can see why Chris, you were worried that Adoration wasn't going to make it to the Main Slate, as I was a bit closed minded about du Welz, have been underwhelmed by some of his movies.

Beyond the Infinite... I just loved the energy of the actors, it felt like going to a restaurant with really amazing staff.
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matthewscott8 wrote: November 14th, 2022, 6:25 pm This is why I'm no good at parties, people don't want this sort of perspective.
It's not wrong as such, but it's only half a perspective, isn't it? For all the dirt you find, you will find just as much love and sweetness. But you have to want to see it, and it's not good news/doc material of course.
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Onderhond wrote: November 14th, 2022, 6:51 pm
matthewscott8 wrote: November 14th, 2022, 6:25 pm This is why I'm no good at parties, people don't want this sort of perspective.
It's not wrong as such, but it's only half a perspective, isn't it? For all the dirt you find, you will find just as much love and sweetness. But you have to want to see it, and it's not good news/doc material of course.
oh yeah for sure it's only half of the picture. I disagree that the "dope" side is bad for a documentary picture, Hours for Jerome is one of my fave films of all time. I do find it very interesting though that both activities are pretty hidden away. Reminds me of something the guy said in Training Day about hiding your smiles and cries. Although I acknowledge that love exists I live in its profound absence, one caveat is my relationship with my mum when I was small. The "whack" stuff is also hidden, I found out today that one of my friends who abruptly disappeared in August, is in prison, I don't know for what, but some people have hinted it's bad. As an autistic person I have always been astonished that everything of significance is hidden, from me at least anyway. Another reason to watch films.
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Really glad we had the same view on what should be the #1 film Chris, Just Don't Think I'll Scream.

Sol, if you are depressed you can't chain films. Similarly if you're going to think about the viewing a lot, you can't chain them. Sometimes I sit and think for hours after a really good watch, I'm definitely not putting on a new film again straight away. The guy has a lot of lassitude. Sometimes when you're depressed you can't even get out of bed, it's paralyzing. For me I was surprised he got through so many given his mental state.
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I listened to the episode last night after I closed the doors at work and finished the work I hadn't. It was the first Talking Images I have listened to and the first thing that got me was the accents, man they are strong, lol.

Anyway the main thing I have to say is how much I would have loved to be able to record this with you but yeah timing is always an issue with me. All the same though I wouldn't have been able to add much to this, as I have shown in my reviews I don't really have much to say in terms of a films merits and you guys did such a great job of hyping each film anyway.
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matthewscott8 wrote: November 15th, 2022, 1:01 am Sol, if you are depressed you can't chain films. Similarly if you're going to think about the viewing a lot, you can't chain them. Sometimes I sit and think for hours after a really good watch, I'm definitely not putting on a new film again straight away. The guy has a lot of lassitude. Sometimes when you're depressed you can't even get out of bed, it's paralyzing. For me I was surprised he got through so many given his mental state.
You might be right; I have never been clinically depressed so I can't speak to that. I guess my comment was more of a reaction to some of the other comments that I was reading at the time about how amazing it was that he got through so many films. The numbers just didn't impress me and I certainly wouldn't hold that against the film; it was just interesting to note, as a numbers-guy, the first thing that sprung to mind for me.

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zzzorf wrote: November 15th, 2022, 2:53 am I listened to the episode last night after I closed the doors at work and finished the work I hadn't. It was the first Talking Images I have listened to and the first thing that got me was the accents, man they are strong, lol.

Anyway the main thing I have to say is how much I would have loved to be able to record this with you but yeah timing is always an issue with me. All the same though I wouldn't have been able to add much to this, as I have shown in my reviews I don't really have much to say in terms of a films merits and you guys did such a great job of hyping each film anyway.
Well, at least I don't have an accent for you to worry about. :P Yes, we'd love to have you on at some time. I think you would have brought an interesting perspective to Caught in the Net as the person who nominated/promoted it. Also, I believe you are the only programmer who could bring the perspective of a parent to the discussion. Maybe we'll entice you to join next year.
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sol wrote: November 15th, 2022, 7:48 am
zzzorf wrote: November 15th, 2022, 2:53 am I listened to the episode last night after I closed the doors at work and finished the work I hadn't. It was the first Talking Images I have listened to and the first thing that got me was the accents, man they are strong, lol.

Anyway the main thing I have to say is how much I would have loved to be able to record this with you but yeah timing is always an issue with me. All the same though I wouldn't have been able to add much to this, as I have shown in my reviews I don't really have much to say in terms of a films merits and you guys did such a great job of hyping each film anyway.
Well, at least I don't have an accent for you to worry about. :P Yes, we'd love to have you on at some time. I think you would have brought an interesting perspective to Caught in the Net as the person who nominated/promoted it. Also, I believe you are the only programmer who could bring the perspective of a parent to the discussion. Maybe we'll entice you to join next year.
Well a slight one, just the difference between east and west but yeah not really. Being a parent is the main reason why I can't join in on the podcast, I hardly get a quiet moment let alone at the time you would want to record. I remember how awkward it was when I guested on some wrestling podcasts a few years back.
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I have come to love all the accents and rhythms in the podcasts, there's musicality to all the regular hosts. I think when I heard Chris' accent the first time, I hadn't really heard an accent like that before, but recently I heard Jens Stoltenberg speak in English, and I was thinking oh wow, someone else speaks like that. I imagine Chris is now going to tell me that they sound nothing alike, however from across the seas it seems that way hehe.
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Chris's accent is also a bit reminiscent of Jonas Mekas's accent in As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty
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Would it be possible to get timestamps for each of the Main Slate movies discussed? I'd love to listen to each section as I see some of the movies in the Main Slate.
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blocho wrote: November 15th, 2022, 8:31 pm Would it be possible to get timestamps for each of the Main Slate movies discussed? I'd love to listen to each section as I see some of the movies in the Main Slate.
Apologies for the delay, here's the timestamps:

Caught in the Net: 6.09
A White White Day: 16:12
Adoration: 22:07
Beyond the Infinite Two Minutes: 26:42
Just Don't Think Scream: 30:31
Mad God: 34:27
New Order: 39:11
The Crossing: 43:45
The Long Walk: 46:57
Straight Up: 53:59
Highlights from the rest of the Festival: 1:03:35
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