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2023 Challenges: Voting for 2023 Options (Voting Closed - Results in thread!)

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For the past six days, we have nominated potential 2023 Challenge Ideas on this thread. Several dozen options have been nominated, of which we will be looking for the nine best performing options to be placed into the 2023 schedule.

Like last year and the year before, we are going to use private message voting.

It is hoped that this will encourage participants to vote for options that they actually want to see run in 2023 rather than just options that they see as doing well in a publicly visible poll. With this in mind, I would request that you do not use this thread to list which options you have voted for. Once voting has closed, I will publish a list of who voted for which options, which can then be discussed if the interest is there to do so.

Private message voting also gives us the ability to allow power voting (giving multiple points to certain options), which cannot be done with an open poll. When selecting the nine options that you would like to make it into next year's schedule, you will be able to award:

- 3 points to one option;
- 2 points to three options; and
- 1 point to remaining five options.

You do not have to vote for nine options - you can vote for less. Please make it clear which options you want to power vote. Your ballot might look like:
EXAMPLE ONLY wrote:
Criterion & MoC - 3
Razzie Nominees - 2
Banned Films - 2
Long Films -2
Sol's Top 850 - 1
Sport Films - 1
1910s - 1
1920s - 1
1990s - 1
Once I have collected an adequate sample size of ballots, I will begin posting regular anonymous updates of which options are performing best.

Your name will be listed as a "thanks for voting" in the anonymous update so that you can be sure that I have included your vote.

What the anonymous updates will look like:
EXAMPLE ONLY
Thanks to the following 5 voters!

icm-checkwhore
new-user
sol
user1
user-2

Best performing options so far:

Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea
Repeat Older Challenge Idea
Repeat Older Challenge Idea
Brand New Challenge Idea
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea
Brand New Challenge Idea
Repeat Older Challenge Idea
etc

DEADLINE FOR VOTING: Thursday October 6 @ 11:59pm GMT (Friday 7:59am AWST)

It is possible that I might not be awake at 7:59am, so I will accept ballots until I check the forum, but I suggest not waiting until the last minute.

So, without further ado:

Please send me a private message with up to 9 of these options that you would like to see run as an Official Challenge in 2023:

1930s
1940s
1950s
1960s
1970s
1980s
2000s
Academy Award nominees
Biography
Comic & Graphic Novel Adaptations
Concert Films
Critics Lists
Cult/Grindhouse
Degrees of Separation
Directed by Actors
Doubling the Canon iCM List
Festival Winners
Films with frontal nudity
Forum Lists
Holiday Films
ICMForum's Top 1001 Favourite Films
ICMForum's Year by Year Polls (Top 25s)
In Competition at Cannes
LGBTIQ+
Lists That Should Be Official
Low IMDb Rating
Martial Arts
Maximalist Cinema
Miniseries
Mr. Skin Hall of Fame
Multiple Versions of the same story
Neo-Noir
New Releases
One Film from Each iCM List
One Film from Each Year
One Film per Language
Personal Top Lists
Religion, Cults & Sorcery
Rest in Peace (films from the recently departed)
Run the Actor
Run the Director
Run the Film Franchise
Run the Writer
Short Films
Sight and Sound Lists
Submissions for the Foreign Language Film Oscar
Television Series
Tim Dirks' History of Sex in Cinema
Travel the United States of America
Unofficial
Weird Movie Lists
Whodunit Films

Note: These options will be automatically placed into the 2023 schedule without being voted on: Directed by Women, Documentary, Film Noir, Horror, Sci-Fi/Fantasy, Silent Era, Under 400 Checks, Western, 1000<400, DTC-Nominees, Travel the World, Animation, Musical, War, Crime.
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Hey folks -- If anyone needs clarity on the list options and what exactly would be included in a particular option, I encourage you to check the nomination thread here.

That being said, since it's not clear in that thread, can I ask what would be included in Critics Lists? Would that be all critics or you would have to choose a particular critic? Or something else?
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blocho wrote: September 30th, 2022, 12:30 am That being said, since it's not clear in that thread, can I ask what would be included in Critics Lists? Would that be all critics or you would have to choose a particular critic? Or something else?
All the lists under the Critics tab on your iCM progress page. There would also be the option to include Unofficial Lists depending who is hosting, but that's the criteria that was used last time that the challenge was run.
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Glad to see Repeat Older Challenge Idea performing so well.
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I love the Rest in Peace suggestion. That could make for a lovely month of celebrating and remembering those we have recently lost. Thanks to the nominator of this one!
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First update! :party:

Thanks to all the voters! (10)

3eyes
airdolll
beavis
cinephage
DudeLanez
gunnar
klaus78
peeptoad
shugs
sortile9io

These are the options that have the most points at the moment:

9 points
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (5 ballots)

7 points
Repeat Older Challenge Idea (4 ballots)
Brand New Challenge Idea (3 ballots)
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (3 ballots)

6 points
Brand New Challenge Idea (4 ballots)
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (4 ballots)

I will aim to post another update in around 24 hours from now. If I receive a surge of votes though, I might post the update earlier. Or I might wait a bit longer if the opposite happens. Either way, I'll post another update here in the next ~36 hours.
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Which regions/countries are up next year? Or that not clear and decided yet?
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I think... this is from the discussion thread-
sol wrote: September 19th, 2021, 2:58 am
2022 Lineup2023 Lineup
Canada
China/Hong Kong/Taiwan
Eastern Europe - excluding Russia, Poland and Czech/Slovak
Germany/Austria/Switzerland/Liechtenstein
Iberia (Spain, Portugal and surrounds)
Indian Subcontinent
Mexico, Central America & Caribbean
Nordic countries
Russia/USSR
Southeast Asia
Sub-Saharan Africa
Turkey and Caucasus
Argentina/Brazil/Uruguay
Benelux
Central Europe (Poland, Czech, Slovak)
France
Iran, Central Asia and Mongolia
Italy (plus Holy See/San Marino/Malta)
Japan
Korean Peninsula
North African/Middle East - excluding Iran and Turkey
Oceania
South America - excluding Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay
UK/Ireland
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I think it was already decided last year: viewtopic.php?t=5579&start=40#p729343
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Peeps and Sortile are correct. In other news:

Second update! :party:

Thanks to all the voters! (17)

3eyes
AB537
airdolll
beavis
blocho
cinephage
ckfilm88
DudeLanez
Fergenaprido
gunnar
klaus78
peeptoad
shugs
Silga
sortile9io
vortexsurfer
zzzorf

These are the options that have the most points at the moment:

15 points
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (10 ballots)

12 points
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (7 ballots)

9 points
Brand New Challenge Idea (6 ballots)
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (4 ballots)

8 points
Repeat Older Challenge Idea (7 ballots)
Repeat Older Challenge Idea (5 ballots)
Repeat Older Challenge Idea (4 ballots)

7 points
Brand New Challenge Idea (6 ballots)
Repeat Older Challenge Idea (4 ballots)
Brand New Challenge Idea (3 ballots)

Plus there are a heap of other options on 6pts as it stands.

I will aim to post another update in around 24 hours from now. If I receive a surge of votes though, I might post the update earlier. Or I might wait a bit longer if the opposite happens. Either way, I'll post another update here in the next ~36 hours.
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Third update! :party:

Thanks to all the voters! (20)

3eyes
72aicm
AB537
airdolll
beavis
blocho
cinephage
ckfilm88
DudeLanez
erde
Fergenaprido
gunnar
klaus78
Onderhond
peeptoad
shugs
Silga
sortile9io
vortexsurfer
zzzorf

These are the options that have the most points at the moment:

17 points
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (11 ballots)

13 points
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (8 ballots)

10 points
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (6 ballots)
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (5 ballots)

9 points
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (7 ballots)
Brand New Challenge Idea (6 ballots)
Repeat Older Challenge Idea (6 ballots)
Brand New Challenge Idea (5 ballots)
Repeat Older Challenge Idea (5 ballots)

Plus there are a heap of other options on 8pts as it stands, including another Brand New Challenge Idea and two Repeat Older Challenge Ideas. B)

I will aim to post another update in around 24 hours from now. If I receive a surge of votes though, I might post the update earlier. Or I might wait a bit longer if the opposite happens. Either way, I'll post another update here in the next ~36 hours.
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so, 2022 was full of brilliant ideas then!?
I would love to continue the challenges I participated in, so I can understand that sentiment
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Fourth update! :party:

There haven't been any big changes since last time (though now only 3 of the top 4 best performing options are repeats from this year) so for today's update, I thought I would provide a different sort of stat to chew on.

This is a pie chart of the 20 best performing options in the poll so far (suggestions with 7 points or more). I like how evenly split it is. So yes, there might be a lot of repeat-2022 options towards the top, but there are also plenty of older challenge ideas (challenges we ran in 2021 or earlier) and brand new challenge ideas that area accumulating lot of points. :)

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sol wrote: October 4th, 2022, 1:52 am Fourth update! :party:

There haven't been any big changes since last time (though now only 3 of the top 4 best performing options are repeats from this year) so for today's update, I thought I would provide a different sort of stat to chew on.

This is a pie chart of the 20 best performing options in the poll so far (suggestions with 7 points or more). I like how evenly split it is. So yes, there might be a lot of repeat-2022 options towards the top, but there are also plenty of older challenge ideas (challenges we ran in 2021 or earlier) and brand new challenge ideas that area accumulating lot of points. :)
Awesome. Thanks for the pie, sol. Remind me again how many ideas advance to the 2023 schedule: is it 9?
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Yes, that's right.
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Fifth update! :party:

Thanks to all the voters! (23)

3eyes
72aicm
AB537
airdolll
beavis
blocho
cinephage
ckfilm88
DudeLanez
erde
Fergenaprido
gunnar
klaus78
Lonewolf2003
OldAle1
Onderhond
peeptoad
shugs
Silga
sortile9io
St. Gloede
vortexsurfer
zzzorf

These are the options that have the most points at the moment:

19 points
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (11 ballots)

17 points
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (11 ballots)

14 points
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (8 ballots)

11 points
Repeat Older Challenge Idea (8 ballots)
Repeat Older Challenge Idea (7 ballots)
Repeat Older Challenge Idea (5 ballots)

10 points
Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea (5 ballots)
Brand New Challenge Idea (6 ballots)

And on 9 points there is one Brand New Challenge Idea, one Repeat 2022 Challenge Idea and three Repeat Older Challenge Ideas (i.e. challenges held in 2021 or earlier).

With a little less than 47 hours left to vote, I will not be posting any more updates after this, as per tradition.

I'll post the options that receive the most points on this thread after the Thursday 11:59pm GMT deadline. At that point, we can discuss what to do about ties (if there are any) before I post the Setting Up the Schedule thread.
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Final Results

Thanks to all the voters! (28)

3eyes
72aicm
AB537
airdolll
beavis
blocho
cinephage
ckfilm88
DudeLanez
erde
Fergenaprido
gunnar
jdidaco
klaus78
Lonewolf2003
Minkin
OldAle1
Onderhond
ororama
peeptoad
Roger88
shugs
Silga
sol
sortile9io
St. Gloede
vortexsurfer
zzzorf

These are the options that acquired the most points:

1. Run the Director - 22pts
2. Academy Award Noms - 19pts
3. Low IMDb Rating - 17pts
4. LGBTIQ+ - 14pts
4. New Releases - 14pts
4. Run the Actor - 14pts
7. Doubling the Canon List - 13pts
8. Sight & Sound Lists - 12pts

The following options tied for the ninth (and final) spot on 11pts:

9. 1970s - 9 ballots
9. In Competition at Cannes - 7 ballots including one 3-vote
9. One Film / Each List - 7 ballots including one 3-vote
9. Submissions FLF Oscar - 7 ballots including one 3-vote
9. Personal Top Lists - 6 ballots including two 3-votes

Things to consider:
- Submissions has never been run as an Official Challenge before
- 1970s was on more ballots than any of the other options
- Last Cannes challenge was all the way back in 2019
- Last 1970s challenge was in 2020

I can do a quick anonymous/open poll if everyone prefers that to discussion

So what's next?
  • Discussion of how to break the five-way tie
  • I will post a list of all options with number of points acquired in the poll
  • I will post voter breakdowns (this could take a while because I don't know how to automatically do it from the spreadsheet that sortile built for me)
  • I will open a thread to discuss scheduling for next year because we can do this even without knowing what option will be our #9
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All Poll Options Listed by Number of Points Acquired

(it is my intention to eventually edit this with voter info for every option, but I'm doing this manually, so it could take a while)
22 points / Run the Director
72aicm
airdolll - 2
blocho
DudeLanez - 3
jdidaco
klaus78
Minkin
OldAle
Lonewolf - 2
peeptoad - 2
Roger88
shugs
Silga - 2
St. Gloede - 3
19 points / Academy Award Nominations
72aicm - 2
AB537 - 2
blocho
cinephage - 2
ckfilm88 - 3
DudeLanez
Fergenaprido
gunnar
klaus78 - 2
ororama - 2
vortexsurfer
zzzorf
17 points / Low IMDb Rating
jdidaco - 2
Minkin - 2
OldAle - 3
peeptoad
Roger88 - 2
shugs - 2
Silga - 2
vortexsurfer - 3
14 points / LGBTIQ+
blocho
ckfilm88 - 2
Fergenaprido - 3
jdidaco - 3
ororama
Roger88 - 2
peeptoad
sol
14 points / New Releases
72aicm - 2
blocho - 2
ckfilm88 - 2
gunnar
klaus78
Lonewolf - 2
Onderhond - 2
St. Gloede - 2
14 points / Run the Actor
3eyes
72aicm
airdolll
DudeLanez - 2
Lonewolf
Minkin - 2
OldAle
Roger88
shugs - 3
Silga
13 points / Doubling the Canon List
72aicm - 3
AB537
airdolll
DudeLanez
klaus78 - 2
ororama
sol
St. Gloede - 2
zzzorf
12 points / Sight & Sound Lists
airdolll - 2
beavis
erde - 3
Fergenaprido - 2
klaus78
Lonewolf
sol - 2
11 points / Personal Top Lists
airdolll - 3
beavis - 3
jdidaco
Onderhond
sortile9io
zzzorf - 2
11 points / One Film from Each iCM List
AB537 - 2
ckfilm88
erde - 2
Minkin
ororama - 3
sortile9io
zzzorf
11 points / In Competition at Cannes
AB537 - 3
beavis
DudeLanez - 2
erde
jdidaco
sol
St. Gloede - 2
11 points / Submissions for the Foreign Language Film Oscar
3eyes
AB537
DudeLanez
Fergenaprido - 2
shugs
sol - 2
zzzorf - 3
11 points / 1970s
beavis
blocho
ckfilm88 - 2
gunnar
peeptoad
shugs
Silga
sol - 2
St. Gloede
10 points / Weird Movie Lists
72aicm
airdolll
beavis - 2
erde
Fergenaprido
Minkin
Onderhond
shugs - 2
10 points / One Film from Each Year
72aicm - 2
AB5537
ckfilm88
ororama - 2
Silga
sol
sortile9io
vortexsurfer
9 points / Unofficial
3eyes
AB537
blocho
cinephage
Onderhond - 2
ororama
Roger88
shugs
9 points / Rest in Peace
3eyes
DudeLanez
Fergenaprido
jdidaco
Lonewolf
ororama
Roger88 - 3
8 iCMForum's Top 1001
8 Run the Film Franchise
7 1930s
7 1980s
7 Miniseries
7 Short Films
7 iCMForum's YbyY Polls
7 Festival Winners
7 Critics Lists
6 Run the Writer
6 Tim Dirks' Sex in Cinema
6 Religion, Cults & Sorcery
6 Forum Lists
6 1950s
6 Martial Arts
5 One Film per Language
5 Holiday Films
5 Biography
4 Multiple Versions
4 Lists that Should be Official
4 Degrees of Separation
4 Maximalist Cinema
4 1960s
4 Directed by Actors
4 Travel the USA
3 Television Series
3 2000s
3 Comic/Graphic Novels
3 Cult & Grindhouse
2 1940s
2 Whodunit Films
1 Concert Films
1 Neo-Noir
0 Films with Frontal Nudity
0 Mr. Skin Hall of Fame
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I would prefer 1970s because it appeared on more ballots and thus has more widespread support, but it's probably easiest to just do a snap poll for the five options tied for the ninth spot.
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I don't know if it's a typo, but I voted for LGBTIQ+ and I don't see my name under the list of voters. I'm not sure if it matters though because it's still in the top voted.
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You're right - on both accounts (my error and it not making any difference). It seems that I accidentally placed your 2 for LGBTIQ+ into the Multiple Versions column instead. I'll fix it above now. :)
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I also think it makes sense to go with the 1970s. It received two more votes, so does have wider support.
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sol wrote: October 7th, 2022, 3:27 am You're right - on both accounts (my error and it not making any difference). It seems that I accidentally placed your 2 for LGBTIQ+ into the Multiple Versions column instead. I'll fix it above now. :)
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I find it surprising the 1970s got the most votes of any decade, considering there's no 1970s poll next year, and the decade polls and challenges often went hand in hand.

I'd pick the International Oscar submissions since it's the only new idea in the tie (and it's the only one I originally voted for). 1970s may have wider lukewarm support, but less passionate support. :D
I'll even volunteer now to host it if that's something people are worried about.

But yeah, like blocho said, a quick poll is probably best.
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As requested, I have put a brief poll together: viewtopic.php?t=6077

Unfortunately only a 24 hour poll since we need to get everything finalised by Sunday night my time unless somebody volunteers to take over from me!
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Fergenaprido wrote: October 7th, 2022, 5:09 am I find it surprising the 1970s got the most votes of any decade, considering there's no 1970s poll next year, and the decade polls and challenges often went hand in hand.

I'd pick the International Oscar submissions since it's the only new idea in the tie (and it's the only one I originally voted for). 1970s may have wider lukewarm support, but less passionate support. :D
I'll even volunteer now to host it if that's something people are worried about.

But yeah, like blocho said, a quick poll is probably best.
That’s why it got my vote too now.
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sol wrote: October 7th, 2022, 7:27 am As requested, I have put a brief poll together: viewtopic.php?t=6077

Unfortunately only a 24 hour poll since we need to get everything finalised by Sunday night my time unless somebody volunteers to take over from me!
Just to be clear you need to finalize the poll only or the setting up the whole schedule before Sunday? In case of the later I can take it over for you.
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Lonewolf2003 wrote: October 7th, 2022, 10:25 am
sol wrote: October 7th, 2022, 7:27 am As requested, I have put a brief poll together: viewtopic.php?t=6077

Unfortunately only a 24 hour poll since we need to get everything finalised by Sunday night my time unless somebody volunteers to take over from me!
Just to be clear you need to finalize the poll only or the setting up the whole schedule before Sunday?
Whole schedule. If not, I guess somebody else can always copy and paste it and fill in the gaps later. I just don't want this to be at the back of my mind at all when I'm back at work.
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sol wrote: October 7th, 2022, 10:27 am
Lonewolf2003 wrote: October 7th, 2022, 10:25 am
sol wrote: October 7th, 2022, 7:27 am As requested, I have put a brief poll together: viewtopic.php?t=6077

Unfortunately only a 24 hour poll since we need to get everything finalised by Sunday night my time unless somebody volunteers to take over from me!
Just to be clear you need to finalize the poll only or the setting up the whole schedule before Sunday?
Whole schedule. If not, I guess somebody else can always copy and paste it and fill in the gaps later. I just don't want this to be at the back of my mind at all when I'm back at work.
Okay I’m willing to take that over after Sunday for you. We can see how far we come by than. But honestly it seems unnecessary to me to rush completing that in a few days when we have two months to do so. It will also give oppurtunity for people who haven’t logged in this weekend to react on the schedule.
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Lonewolf2003 wrote: October 7th, 2022, 10:38 am
sol wrote: October 7th, 2022, 10:27 am
Lonewolf2003 wrote: October 7th, 2022, 10:25 am

Just to be clear you need to finalize the poll only or the setting up the whole schedule before Sunday?
Whole schedule. If not, I guess somebody else can always copy and paste it and fill in the gaps later. I just don't want this to be at the back of my mind at all when I'm back at work.
Okay I’m willing to take that over after Sunday for you. We can see how far we come by than. But honestly it seems unnecessary to me to rush completing that in a few days when we have two months to do so. It will also give oppurtunity for people who haven’t logged in this weekend to react on the schedule.
Yeah, the only reason that we are rushing things is because nobody wanted to take over from me :shrug: so thanks for being the only person to volunteer.

Let's give it to some time on Sunday and then I'll pass things over to you. That way I'll at least have Sunday evening to myself before it's back to work. What time are you likely to wake up on Sunday?
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sol wrote: October 7th, 2022, 10:41 am
Lonewolf2003 wrote: October 7th, 2022, 10:38 am
sol wrote: October 7th, 2022, 10:27 am Whole schedule. If not, I guess somebody else can always copy and paste it and fill in the gaps later. I just don't want this to be at the back of my mind at all when I'm back at work.
Okay I’m willing to take that over after Sunday for you. We can see how far we come by than. But honestly it seems unnecessary to me to rush completing that in a few days when we have two months to do so. It will also give oppurtunity for people who haven’t logged in this weekend to react on the schedule.
Yeah, the only reason that we are rushing things is because nobody wanted to take over from me :shrug: so thanks for being the only person to volunteer.

Let's give it to some time on Sunday and then I'll pass things over to you. That way I'll at least have Sunday evening to myself before it's back to work. What time are you likely to wake up on Sunday?
I will be able to check this forum Sunday somewhere in the afternoon, let’s say after 13:00 Dutch time. Does it really matter? You can post your last post and schedule so far, and I can take over from there and check all comments since than.
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Lonewolf2003 wrote: October 7th, 2022, 10:54 am I will be able to check this forum Sunday somewhere in the afternoon, let’s say after 13:00 Dutch time. Does it really matter? You can post your last post and schedule so far, and I can take over from there and check all comments since than.
All good, let's go with that then. :thumbsup:
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Well, crap. I apparently missed the voting. I guess this is what I get for not checking for this thread's existence... My votes would've definitely changed some of the results too...
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Btw, in case you're wondering, I would've given Weird Movies Lists a 3-vote which would've pushed it above the 5-way tie you've got on your hands now.
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