Year-by-Year Polls: 2002 (Results)

[Teproc]

These are the results for the 2002 poll.

Total number of voters: 51
Total number of films receiving votes: 296

Thank you to these 51 participants: AB537, Angel Glez, beavis, blocho, Caracortada, cayado-coro, cinewest, Fergenaprido, filmbantha, Good_Will_Harding, Gordon_Gekko, gromit82, GruesomeTwosome, gunnar, hurluberlu, Insomnius, jeff_v, joachimt, klaus78, Lakigigar, Leopardi, lineuphere, Lonewolf2003, matthewscott8, Melvelet, Minkin, MoTH, murnaunosferatu, Mysterious Dude, OldAle1, Onderhond, Opio, ororama, peeptoad, rnilsson19, RogerTheMovieManiac88, Rufus-T, Silga, Smoover, sol, St. Gloede, TalkingElvish, Teproc, timshelboy, Torgo, Traveller, TraverseTown, twodeadmagpies, Y U M E, zomgmouse, zzzorf

Films with the minimum of 2 votes or ranked as #1 are listed.

Tie breaker is # of mentions followed by the film with higher ranking and then by number of IMDb votes

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Here is the list:

* = short film

ICM FORUM'S FAVORITE FILMS FROM 2002

RANK	FILM (2012 POLL RANKING)	AKA	DIRECTOR(S)	POINTS	MENTIONS	IMDb VOTES	POSTER(S) WHO RANKED #1	LINK
1	Cidade de Deus (2)	City of God	Katia Lund, Fernando Meirelles	378,5	27	740141	AB537, Gordon_Gekko, gunnar, Lakigigar, Mysterious Dude, peeptoad
2	Punch-Drunk Love (5)		Paul Thomas Anderson	261	22	161665	GruesomeTwosome, jeff_v
3	Adaptation. (4)		Spike Jonze	258	20	190035
4	The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (7)		Peter Jackson	256	19	1602392	Smoover
5	The Pianist (1)		Roman Polanski	252	19	803577	joachimt, Leopardi
6	Hable con ella (6)	Talk to Her	Pedro Almodovar	247	22	111282	Caracortada
7	Irréversible (39)	Irreversible	Gaspar Noé	244	18	131602	Melvelet, Traveller
8	25th Hour (14)		Spike Lee	197,5	15	177205	Good_Will_Harding
9	Ying xiong (12)	Hero	Yimou Zhang	188	17	179970	Lonewolf2003, Rufus-T, Torgo
10	Mou gaan dou (36)	Infernal Affairs	Alan Mak, Andrew Lau	163	16	123402	ororama
11	Russkiy kovcheg (8)	Russian Ark	Aleksandr Sokurov	158	13	20326	cinewest, lineuphere
12	Far from Heaven (3)		Todd Haynes	153	14	46322
13	Al primo soffio di vento (49)	At the First Breath of Wind	Franco Piavoli	151	10	303	OldAle1
14	Lilja 4-ever (22)	Lilya 4-Ever	Lukas Moodysson	145,5	15	45223	hurluberlu
15	Bowling for Columbine (21)		Michael Moore	140	14	143693	Silga
16	Tiexi qu	Tie Xi Qu: West of the Tracks	Bing Wang	135	10	1157	insomnius, MoTH, murnaunosferatu
17	Minority Report (13)		Steven Spielberg	130,5	13	539385
18	Uzak (25)	Distant	Nuri Bilge Ceylan	127,5	12	20802
19	Catch Me If You Can (19)		Steven Spielberg	122	15	936522
20	Oasiseu (40)	Oasis	Lee Chang-dong	117	11	9260
21	28 Days Later… (58)		Danny Boyle	110,5	14	403900
22	Vendredi soir (38)	Friday Night	Claire Denis	106	10	1985
23	Le fils (9)	The Son	Luc Dardenne, Jean-Pierre Dardenne	104,5	9	9514
24	Chicago (11)		Rob Marshall	104	6	227361	timshelboy
25	Sud sanaeha (47)	Blissfully Yours	Apichatpong Weerasethakul	103	8	2485	klaus78
26	Tasogare Seibei (24)	The Twilight Samurai	Yôji Yamada	102,5	11	23692
27	Mies vailla menneisyyttä (34)	The Man Without a Past	Aki Kaurismäki	101,5	12	23368	Opio
28	Dolls (32)		Takeshi Kitano	94	8	16548	Onderhond
29	Dah (54)	Ten	Abbas Kiarostami	93	11	7850
30	The Quiet American (56)		Phillip Noyce	91	8	28253
31	Road to Perdition (19)		Sam Mendes	88	7	263146
32	Femme Fatale (27)		Brian De Palma	86	7	35606
33	Bloody Sunday (44)		Paul Greengrass	84,5	10	24617
34	The Bourne Identity (33)		Doug Liman	78	8	537632
35	All or Nothing (30)		Mike Leigh	72	10	10678
36	Morvern Callar (62)		Lynne Ramsay	66	5	10132
37	Spider (23)		David Cronenberg	66	5	38515
38	About Schmidt (16)		Alexander Payne	63	9	127983	gromit82, RogerTheMovieManiac88
39	Gangs of New York (17)		Martin Scorsese	63	9	433186
40	Xiao cheng zhi chun	Springtime in a Small Town	Zhuangzhuang Tian	61,5	5	1317	rnilsson19
41	Boksuneun naui geot (61)	Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance	Park Chan-wook	61	7	67864
42	Frida (71)		Julie Taymor	61	6	88756
43	Rabbits * (94)		David Lynch	59	6	7661
44	Être et avoir	To Be and to Have	Nicolas Philibert	58	7	8087
45	Demonlover (83)		Olivier Assayas	57	7	5446
46	La vie nouvelle (84)	A New Life	Philippe Grandrieux	54	4	1034	beavis
47	Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (73)		George Clooney	53	6	87739
48	O Princípio da Incerteza	The Uncertainty Principle	Manoel de Oliveira	52	4	402
49	Panic Room (55)		David Fincher	51	7	275839
50	Dog Soldiers (64)		Neil Marshall	51	4	59285
51	Dirty Pretty Things (69)		Stephen Frears	49,5	6	42260
52	*Corpus Callosum		Michael Snow	48	3	217
53	Heremakono (48)	Waiting for Happiness	Abderrahmane Sissako	46	6	1022
54	24 Hour Party People (35)		Michael Winterbottom	46	4	37013
55	Ônibus 174 (79)	Bus 174	José Padilha, Felipe Lacerda	45	4	8229
56	8 femmes (31)	8 Women	François Ozon	44	6	32127
57	Cremaster 3		Matthew Barney	44	4	1447
58	Sogobi		James Benning	44	3	128	matthewscott8
59	Mizu no onna	Woman of Water	Hidenori Sugimori	44	3	311
60	Neko no ongaeshi	The Cat Returns	Hiroyuki Morita	43	5	55216	Minkin
61	L'ora di religione (Il sorriso di mia madre)		Marco Bellocchio	42	4	1849
62	Honogurai mizu no soko kara (82)	Dark Water	Hideo Nakata	42	3	32139	TalkingElvish
63	Insomnia (64)		Christopher Nolan	41	3	290638
64	Gerry (18)		Gus Van Sant	40	5	18715
65	The Hours (10)		Stephen Daldry	40	5	130507
66	Kukushka (58)	The Cuckoo	Aleksandr Rogozhkin	39	3	7627
67	About a Boy (63)		Paul Weitz, Chris Weitz	38	4	182401
68	Zhou Yu de huo che	Zhou Yu's Train	Zhou Sun	37	3	1535
69	The Ring (60)		Gore Verbinski	36	3	341816
70	Respiro (96)		Emanuele Crialese	36	3	4674
71	8 Mile		Curtis Hanson	36	2	279366
72	In Order Not to Be Here *		Deborah Stratman	35	3	105
73	Spider-Man (37)		Sam Raimi	34	6	793333
74	Resident Evil		Paul W.S. Anderson	34	3	265271	zzzorf
75	Whale Rider (50)		Niki Caro	33	4	42218
76	The Hedge Theater * (74)		Robert Beavers	33	2	79
77	Dracula: Pages from a Virgin's Diary (51)		Guy Maddin	32	6	2073
78	Bend It Like Beckham (52)		Gurinder Chadha	32	3	109600
79	Reign of Fire		Rob Bowman	30,5	2	134455	blocho
80	Rokugatsu no hebi (44)	A Snake of June	Shin'ya Tsukamoto	30	5	4655
81	Mr. and Mrs. Iyer (94)		Aparna Sen	30	4	4813
82	Decasia (76)		Bill Morrison	30	3	973
83	Saenghwalui balgyeon	On the Occasion of Remembering the Turning Gate	Hong Sang-soo	30	2	1282
84	The Good Thief		Neil Jordan	29	3	10488
85	Ju-on	Ju-on: The Grudge	Takashi Shimizu	29	2	44019	zomgmouse
86	Akarui mirai	Bright Future	Kiyoshi Kurosawa	29	2	2813
87	Sweet Sixteen (29)		Ken Loach	28	5	15135
88	Elsker dig for evigt	Open Hearts	Susanne Bier	28	3	10265
89	Chekhovskie motivy	Chekhov's Motifs	Kira Muratova	28	3	344
90	Japón (90)	Japan	Carlos Reygadas	28	2	3644
91	Lilo & Stitch		Dean DeBlois, Chris Sanders	27	6	184593
92	Tokyo.Sora		Hiroshi Ishikawa	27	3	469
93	Sunshine State		John Sayles	26,5	2	4093
94	White Oleander (90)		Peter Kosminsky	26	2	32249
95	Spellbound (74)		Jeffrey Blitz	25	3	12231
96	Reflections of Evil		Damon Packard	25	2	627	TraverseTown
97	Peggy and Fred in Hell: The Complete Cycle		Leslie Thornton	25	2	16
98	Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (98)		Chris Columbus	24	3	613791
99	Hukkle		György Palfi	24	3	3701
100	Interstate 60: Episodes of the Road		Bob Gale	23	3	32316
101	The Magdalene Sisters (15)		Peter Mullan	22	5	27092
102	Choses secrètes	Secret Things	Jean-Claude Brisseau	21,5	2	4989
103	9/11		James Hanlon, Gédéon Naudet, Jules Naudet	21	2	8248
104	Cinemania (87)		Angela Christlieb, Stephen Kijak	21	2	2302
105	La caja 507	Box 507	Enrique Urbizu	21	2	2582
106	Cavale	One	Lucas Belvaux	21	2	1194
107	Marie-Jo et ses 2 amours	Marie-Jo and Her 2 Lovers	Robert Guédiguian	21	2	798
108	At kende sandheden	Facing the Truth	Nils Malmros	21	2	766
109	Narc		Joe Carnahan	20	2	40575
110	Marathon		Amir Naderi	20	2	170
111	Astérix & Obélix: Mission Cléopâtre	Asterix & Obelix: Mission Cleopatra	Alain Chabat	20	1	52283	Teproc
112	Bubba Ho-Tep		Don Coscarelli	20	1	48142	filmbantha
113	Moonlight Mile		Brad Silberling	20	1	14107	Fergenaprido
114	Sungnyangpali sonyeoui jaerim	Resurrection of the Little Match Girl	Sun-Woo Jang	20	1	1158	Y U M E
115	Prevrashchenie		Valeri Fokin	20	1	330	sol
116	Kagami no onna-tachi	Women in the Mirror	Yoshishige Yoshida	20	1	235	St. Gloede
117	Ren xiao yao (66)	Unknown Pleasures	Zhangke Jia	19	3	2403
118	In America (46)		Jim Sheridan	17,5	3	42921
119	Solaris (81)		Steven Soderbergh	17	4	82363
120	Chihwaseon	Painted Fire	Kwon-taek Im	17	3	2693
121	The Century of the Self			17	2	5798
122	Secretary (26)		Steven Shainberg	16	4	90228
123	Possession		Neil LaBute	16	2	13283
124	Paesaggi e figure *		Franco Piavoli	16	2	30
125	S1m0ne		Andrew Niccol	15	2	60508
126	Dzien swira	Day of the Wacko	Marek Koterski	15	2	10244
127	De Tweeling	Twin Sisters	Ben Sombogaart	15	2	6650
128	Dans ma peau	In My Skin	Marina de Van	14	2	5310
129	Lundi matin	Monday Morning	Otar Iosseliani	14	2	1052
130	Yadon ilaheyya	Divine Intervention	Elia Suleiman	13	2	3624
131	Lost in La Mancha		Louis Pepe, Keith Fulton	11	2	11650

And the awards go to...

Oscars
4. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
5. The Pianist
24. Chicago (Winner)
39. Gangs of New York
65. The Hours

Cannes
5. The Pianist

Venice
101. The Magdalene Sisters

Berlin
33. Bloody Sunday
Unranked - In This World (1 ballot, 14 points)

Sundance
Unranked - Personal Velocity: Three Portraits (1 ballot, 10 points)

Shorts
The following films under 45 minutes long made the main list:

43. Rabbits
71. In Order Not To Be Here
75. The Hedge Theater
124. Paesaggi e figure

Your mileage may vary
The following titles are well-known (over 100,000 votes) and reasonably well-liked (average rating of 7.0 or higher) by IMDb users, but they didn't make a big impression here:

Ice Age (over 400,000 votes, 1 ballot, 2 points)
Equilibrium (over 300,000 votes on IMDB, none here)
Red Dragon (over 250,000 votes, 1 ballot, 10 points)
Phone Booth (over 250,000 votes, 1 ballot, 6 points)
A Walk to Remember (over 200,000 votes, 1 ballot, 11 points)
We Were Soldiers (over 100,000 votes on IMDB, none here)
The Count of Monte Cristo (over 100,000 votes, 1 ballot, 11 points)
John Q (over 100,000 votes, 1 ballot, 14 points)
Treasure Planet (over 100,000 votes, 1 ballot, 7 points)

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Breakdown by primary nations

Number of countries: 27

# of films ____ Country
40 ___________ United States
17 ___________ France
16 ___________ United Kingdom
10 ___________ Japan
5 ____________ China, South Korea, Italy
4 ____________ Canada, Russia
2 ____________ Brazil, New Zealand, Mexico, Denmark, Spain, Germany
1 ____________ Hong Kong, Sweden, Turkey, Belgium, Thailand, Finland, Iran, India, Hungary, Ireland, Poland, Netherlands


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The next poll will be for 1953 followed by 2021.

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[St. Gloede]

Some pretty big surprises here, Ten barely making the top 30 being the biggest one.

I decided last minute to squeeze in Cremaster 3 instead of City of God, which seems to have been a decent decision. It did not need any help, though those top positions are remarkably close when you look at the points. Especially 2-7, just 1 ballot could have changed that completely.

I am surprised I'm the only one voting for Women in the Mirror though. Thought there were a few more Yoshida fans here.

[beavis]

I am surprised I'm the only one voting for Women in the Mirror though. Thought there were a few more Yoshida fans here.

Huge fan of the director, but not of this particular movie
Biggest surprise is the lack of love for Grandrieux here...
Not so surprising, but I still don't get it, is the love for West of the Tracks (landing at #16 with 3 number 1 positions). I have disliked other works from this celebrated docu filmer, but this one felt like such a slog, and so technically inept at times, that it truly baffles me where the love comes from

I've seen 92/131
Highest unseen is Oasis at #20
Most want to see first is Frida at #41

[Torgo]

Not so surprising, but I still don't get it, is the love for West of the Tracks (landing at #16 with 3 number 1 positions). I have disliked other works from this celebrated docu filmer, but this one felt like such a slog, and so technically inept at times, that it truly baffles me where the love comes from

Maybe the people who sat through 9 hours of that feel obliged to vote the film into several lists, so that other people will have to endure it too
(Just joking, not seen it myself, maybe it's fantastic, maybe it's dull, idk)

At least the right gimmick film entered the Top 10 and the pretentious one left.
Chicago at #24 has the least mentions out of the first 35 films, if that translates to something useful for anyone.

[zomgmouse]

somehow both 1993 and 2002 have managed to place two of my most hated films at #1!

[Torgo]

We were the only voters for Ju-On
That movie must really have suffered from all the sequels and remakes, and overall the J-Horror hype dying down.
Unjustified

[zomgmouse]

We were the only voters for Ju-On
That movie must really have suffered from all the sequels and remakes, and overall the J-Horror hype dying down.
Unjustified

agreed - i think it's a masterpiece of horror! one of the few films that is a trauma metaphor that also manages to be a great and effective horror first and foremost. i don't mind some of the sequels and remakes but you're right they probably did dilute the perception

fun fact: shimizu was a student of kiyoshi kurosawa which i only found out after watching ju-on and thinking it seemed similar to cure

[gromit82]

Teproc: Thanks for running this poll.

[TraverseTown]

I remember watching City of God in a screenwriting class 10 years ago this month. I fell asleep but I was interested so I went back and watched it at home.

[cinewest]

I’ve seen nearly half the films in the top 130, and close to half of my choices (8) made the top 20 which may be appropos.
What’s most interesting is that two films with fewer than 1200 IMDb votes cracked the top 20 based on a small cadre of followers (10), and the highest placer of the two has only around 300 imdv votes.

Nice to see the Claire Denis film has also found an audience, here, probably the same 10 who support the Piavoli film.

Heremakono, Zhou Yu de huo che, Respiro, and Divine Intervention deserve better, as do Carnages, and Dom Durakov, and The Dancer Upstairs, which only got votes from me.

Heremakono is my favorite African film by my favorite African filmmaker,

Zhou Yu de huo che is a poetic romance set in rural China inspired by Mood For Love,

Respiro is a Sicilian family comedy/drama set on a small fisherman's island featuring the lovely Valeria Golino,

and Divine Intervention is a dry satiric Palestinian take on life in Jerusalem that reminds me a bit of Roy Andersson's films.

As for Carnages, this is another bizarre comedy / drama that follows the death and afterlife of a Bull killed in the ring. Though it is French, it feels more like a cross between something by Bunuel and Almodovar.

Dom Durakov kind of like a cross between One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and King of Hearts, Russian style. A war time satire set in mental hospital that also feels like something by Jiri Menzel.

And, The Dancer Upstairs is a political thriller set in Peru, and directed by John Malkovich, featuring an outstanding performance by Javier Bardem.



Given that there are 131 films that got at least two votes among a fairly small group of participants, it would seem that many of you included films on your lists that escaped most participant's attention. Would love to hear more about the favorites you believe have been overlooked and how they might appeal to those who haven't seen them.

[Lakigigar]

City of God is probably one of the first well received films i've ever seen, like as a teenager, and I think i watched it because of IMDb, although i'm not 100% sure since i have not seen any other films from the IMDb top 250 back than, just City of God. I however loved it a lot. But i'm not sure why i watched that film, and none of the others specifically.

[peeptoad]

Thanks for the results, Teproc!

[St. Gloede]

Finally found the time to add this one to iCinema: https://icmforum.com/2022/08/06/top-50- ... ars-later/

Feel free to share.

If anyone has the time to add our lists and do small write-ups, let me know. Teproc and Gromit add so much value in the first post that they almost write themselves.