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Run The Director Challenge (Official, July 2020)

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Run The Director Challenge (Official, July 2020)

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Post by flavo5000 » June 28th, 2020, 6:33 pm

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Ever since the film critics of the Cahiers du cinéma began to look back on prior generations of filmmakers to apply the auteur theory (the idea originally pioneered by director Max Reinhardt in the 1910’s of the director as author of a film conveying a unique artistic vision throughout their filmography), a brighter spotlight has been shone on the role of the director as the nexus of the movie production, viewing the film as a conduit for the director’s vision and the actors and crew merely puppets of a master’s complex machinations.

Of course not all directors are created equal. Some like Stanley Kubrick and James Cameron truly are known to be the exacting “my way or the highway” type of filmmaker honored by the French New Wave while some directors like Rainer Werner Fassbinder and John Cassavetes have much more of a collaborative relationship of empowerment with their actors and crew. Of course, many directors fall somewhere in between as well. Some are more journeymen for hire, churning out filmed spec scripts for a studio looking to make a quick buck. Some have had their original sensibilities twisted by the studio system in a more marketable product for the masses. Some just gravitate to whatever they can get made whether they’re passionate about it or not. But at the end of the day, any of the types of director mentioned above may have some interest to be gleaned from a dive into their works.

For this challenge, we’re taking a page from Cahiers du cinéma and putting that spotlight on directors throughout film history. The goal of this challenge is to explore a director’s cinematic achievements and observe and highlight the common artistic themes and recurring motifs that the director may employ throughout their career.

Now let’s pay close attention to the rules on this one. They are a little more involved than the typical challenge here!

Lists to Check Out?
I’m afraid we don’t currently have any official full director filmographies. There are lots of unofficial ones on ICM for those looking for ideas. For some general guidance on directors to check out, please see the list of Top 250 Directors in Bonus Challenge #1 for additional ideas.

Rules:
- When beginning a new run, please declare the director the run is for and post a minimum of three films from the director to start the run. Future consecutive posts tied to the same director can be less than three entries as long as the director does not change. If you change directors and return to a previous director, then the 3-entry initial post rule would apply again.
ExamplesShow
Correct:
Post #1
Frenzy (Hitchcock,1972)
Rear Window (Hitchcock, 1954)
The Lodger (Hitchcock, 1927)

Post #2
Dial M For Murder (Hitchcock, 1954)

Post #3
Ninja Terminator (Godfrey Ho, 1985)
Robo Vampire (Godfrey Ho, 1988)
Scorpion Thunderbolt (Godfrey, 1988)

Post #4
Spellbound (Hitchcock, 1945)
The Trouble With Harry (Hitchcock, 1955)
The Birds (Hitchcock, 1963)

Not Correct:
Post #1
Frenzy (Hitchcock,1972)
Rear Window (Hitchcock, 1954)
The Lodger (Hitchcock, 1927)

Post #2
Ninja Terminator (Godfrey Ho, 1985)
Dial M For Murder (Hitchcock, 1954)
Scorpion Thunderbolt (Godfrey, 1988)
Robo Vampire (Godfrey Ho, 1988)

Post #3
Spellbound (Hitchcock, 1945)
- A feature film or TV episode over 40 minutes counts as one entry.
- A total of 60 minutes of short films and/or tv episodes under 40 minutes from a single director count as one entry.
ExamplesShow
Correct: (Different entries from different TV series)
1a. Tales From The Crypt: Yellow (Zemeckis, 1991) 37 min
1b. Tales from the Crypt: And All Through the House (Zemeckis, 1989)
1c. Tales from the Crypt: You Murderer (Zemeckis, 1995)
2. Amazing Stories: Go to the Head of the Class (Zemeckis, 1986) 60 min.
3. Death Becomes Her (Zemeckis, 1992)

Not Correct: (Tales from the Crypt is used in two separate entries, both 1. and 2.)
1a. Tales From The Crypt: Yellow (Zemeckis, 1991) 37 min
1b. The Lift (Zemeckis, 1972) 8 min.
1c. Field of Honor (Zemeckis, 1973) 15 min.
2a. Tales from the Crypt: You Murderer (Zemeckis, 1995)
2b. Tales from the Crypt: And All Through the House (Zemeckis, 1989)
2c. Back to the Future: Doc Brown Saves the World (2015)
3. What Lies Beneath (Zemeckis, 2000)
-For anthologies and co-directed features, any director listed according to IMDB may count as an entry for a given director, but may not be used for more than one director. Example: King King (1933) could count toward either a run of Ernest B. Schoedsack or Merian C. Cooper films. But you could not use King Kong as one of the entries for both. The same would apply to an anthology such as Eros where it could count as an entry for Wong Kar-Wai, Steven Soderbergh or Michael Antonioni but not all three.
-Any television series or mini-series can only count toward one entry for a given director. This means that whether you watch two episodes or two seasons of The Knick for Soderbergh, it will still only count as one entry.
-Episodes of a TV series can count toward more than one director if they are different episodes. So if you wanted to do a run of Vincenzo Natali and include an episode of Hannibal and then later do a run of Neil Marshall also include a different episode of Hannibal, that would be allowed.
- Rewatches are allowed (as long as it isn’t the same film more than once in the same month).
-Please include year the film was released and director (obviously) in your posts.

Pshew... :D

I know these seem like curiously stringent rules for a challenge on here, but keep in mind that this challenge has quite possibly the largest pool of films of any challenge this forum has ever held (with the only criterion being that a director had to have made enough to constitute at least three entries). So basically these rules are being instituted to truly maintain the spirit of the challenge of really exploring a director’s output rather than just lumping together movies you might have happened to watch during the month. So in that spirit, I hope everyone who participates finds some new favorites as well as gain additional appreciation in previously familiar filmmakers.

Overall Leaderboard
Rank Participant Count
1 flavo5000 18
2 psychotronicbeatnik 17
3 Obgeoff 16
4 zuma 11
5 OldAle1 8
5 allisoncm 8
7 sol 6
7 peeptoad 6
9 St. Gloede 5
10 Melvelet 4
10 blueboybob 4
12 Mochard 3
12 frbrown 3
12 72aicm 3
15 zzzorf 0
15 sebby 0
15 Lonewolf2003 0
15 hurluberlu 0
15 Daviddoes 0
15 cinephage 0


BONUS CHALLENGE #1: ICM Watches the TSPDT Top 250 Directors!
In the spirit of continuing the exploration of They Shoot Pictures Don’t They from last month, let’s as a group see how many of the Top 250 Directors according to TSPDT (2016 edition) we can hit during July! I will highlight in bold completed directors in the list below along with the name of the user who first completed them.
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1. Alfred Hitchcock: Flavo5000
2. Orson Welles
3. Stanley Kubrick
4. Federico Fellini
5. Jean-Luc Godard
6. Francis Ford Coppola
7. Akira Kurosawa
8. Ingmar Bergman
9. Jean Renoir
10. John Ford
11. Yasujiro Ozu
12. Martin Scorsese
13. Luis Buñuel
14. Andrei Tarkovsky
15. Charles Chaplin
16. Billy Wilder
17. Carl Theodor Dreyer
18. Robert Bresson
19. F.W. Murnau
20. Michelangelo Antonioni
21. Howard Hawks
22. Fritz Lang: Obgeoff
23. Sergei Eisenstein
24. François Truffaut
25. Steven Spielberg
26. Kenji Mizoguchi
27. Woody Allen
28. Roberto Rossellini
29. David Lean
30. David Lynch
31. Vittorio De Sica
32. Alain Resnais
33. Luchino Visconti
34. Roman Polanski
35. Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger
36. John Cassavetes
37. Sergio Leone: Mochard
38. Satyajit Ray
39. Wong Kar-wai
40. Jean Vigo
41. Ernst Lubitsch
42. Ridley Scott
43. Robert Altman
44. Max Ophüls
45. Werner Herzog
46. Abbas Kiarostami
47. Stanley Donen & Gene Kelly
48. Dziga Vertov
49. D.W. Griffith
50. Chris Marker
51. Krzysztof Kieslowski
52. Buster Keaton
53. John Huston: Melvelet
54. Terrence Malick
55. Hou Hsiao-hsien
56. Rainer Werner Fassbinder
57. Edward Yang
58. Jacques Tati
59. Pier Paolo Pasolini
60. Bernardo Bertolucci
61. Sam Peckinpah
62. Michael Curtiz: Obgeoff
63. Joel Coen & Ethan Coen
64. Frank Capra
65. Victor Fleming
66. Quentin Tarantino
67. Preston Sturges
68. Marcel Carné
69. Vincente Minnelli
70. Carol Reed
71. Wim Wenders
72. Nicholas Ray
73. Béla Tarr
74. Leo McCarey
75. Erich von Stroheim
76. Douglas Sirk
77. Elia Kazan
78. Lars von Trier
79. Nicolas Roeg
80. Eric Rohmer
81. Claude Lanzmann
82. Jean-Pierre Melville
83. Gillo Pontecorvo
84. David Cronenberg
85. Chantal Akerman
86. Theo Angelopoulos
87. Milos Forman
88. George Cukor
89. Hayao Miyazaki
90. Josef von Sternberg
91. Joseph L. Mankiewicz
92. Jacques Rivette
93. Jacques Demy
94. Michael Haneke
95. William Wyler: Obgeoff
96. Jacques Tourneur
97. Victor Erice
98. James Cameron
99. Sidney Lumet
100. Paul Thomas Anderson
101. George Lucas
102. Brian De Palma
103. Clint Eastwood
104. Pedro Almodóvar
105. Robert Flaherty
106. Spike Lee
107. Jean Eustache
108. Claire Denis
109. Mikio Naruse
110. Glauber Rocha
111. Ken Loach
112. King Vidor
113. Jim Jarmusch
114. Jean-Marie Straub & Danièle Huillet
115. Terry Gilliam
116. George A. Romero
117. John Carpenter
118. Jean Cocteau
119. Hal Ashby
120. Zhang Yimou
121. William Friedkin
122. Aleksandr Sokurov
123. Agnès Varda
124. Michael Cimino
125. Michael Snow
126. Stan Brakhage
127. Apichatpong Weerasethakul
128. Jane Campion
129. Otto Preminger
130. Sergei Parajanov
131. Abel Gance
132. Alexander Dovzhenko
133. Alexander Mackendrick
134. Ang Lee
135. Nagisa Oshima
136. Fei Mu
137. Emir Kusturica
138. Peter Weir
139. Rob Reiner
140. Mike Leigh
141. Elem Klimov
142. Errol Morris
143. Henri-Georges Clouzot
144. Samuel Fuller
145. Andrzej Wajda
146. Robert Wise
147. Arthur Penn
148. Raoul Walsh
149. Andy Warhol
150. Robert Zemeckis
151. Mike Nichols
152. Frederick Wiseman
153. Michael Powell
154. Maurice Pialat
155. Merian C. Cooper & Ernest B. Schoedsack
156. Robert Aldrich
157. Michael Mann
158. Luis García Berlanga
159. John Boorman
160. Louis Malle: Obgeoff
161. Tsai Ming-liang
162. Ousmane Sembene
163. David Fincher
164. James Whale
165. G.W. Pabst
166. George Stevens
167. Ritwik Ghatak
168. Mikhail Kalatozov
169. Jia Zhangke
170. King Hu
171. Georges Méliès
172. Jean Rouch
173. Humphrey Jennings
174. Anthony Mann
175. Tobe Hooper
176. Maya Deren
177. Joseph Losey
178. Manoel de Oliveira
179. Gus Van Sant
180. Paul Verhoeven
181. Tod Browning
182. Chen Kaige
183. Robert Wiene
184. Terence Davies
185. Sydney Pollack
186. Djibril Diop Mambéty
187. Tim Burton
188. Richard Linklater
189. Jean-Pierre Dardenne & Luc Dardenne
190. Peter Bogdanovich
191. Georges Franju
192. Tomás Gutiérrez Alea
193. René Clair
194. Bob Fosse
195. John Schlesinger
196. Shohei Imamura
197. Don Siegel
198. Robert Hamer
199. Ben Sharpsteen
200. Peter Jackson
201. Harold Ramis
202. John Woo
203. Robert Mulligan
204. Albert Maysles, David Maysles & Charlotte Zwerin
205. Peter Watkins
206. Fred Zinnemann
207. Lindsay Anderson
208. Blake Edwards
209. Ken Russell
210. David Hand
211. Mel Brooks
212. Leni Riefenstahl
213. George Roy Hill
214. Victor Sjöström
215. Charles Burnett
216. Ermanno Olmi
217. Guru Dutt
218. Oliver Stone
219. Todd Haynes
220. Frank Borzage
221. Marcel Ophüls
222. Aki Kaurismäki
223. Irvin Kershner
224. Giuseppe Tornatore
225. Nelson Pereira dos Santos
226. Peter Greenaway
227. Wes Anderson
228. Dario Argento
229. Jonathan Demme
230. D.A. Pennebaker
231. Jonas Mekas
232. John Hughes
233. Kenneth Anger
234. Francesco Rosi
235. Jacques Becker
236. John Landis
237. Claude Chabrol
238. Monte Hellman
239. Christopher Nolan
240. Alan J. Pakula
241. Pedro Costa
242. Andy Wachowski & Lana Wachowski
243. Alejandro Jodorowsky
244. Danny Boyle
245. Jack Clayton
246. Bob Rafelson
247. John Frankenheimer
248. Louis Feuillade
249. Masaki Kobayashi
250. Takeshi Kitano
BONUS #2: Deep and Wide
Here I will award the user who watches the most films from a single director and the user who completes the broadest variety of directors.
DEEPShow
Rank Participant Count
1 flavo5000 8
2 psychotronicbeatnik 6
2 Obgeoff 6
4 St. Gloede 5
4 OldAle01 5
4 allisoncm 5
7 zuma 4
7 Melvelet 4
7 blueboybob 4
10 sol 3
10 peeptoad 3
10 Mochard 3
10 frbrown 3
10 72aicm 3
WIDEShow
1 [/td][td] psychotronicbeatnik [/td][td] 4 [/td][/tr] 1 [/td][td] Obgeoff [/td][td] 4 [/td][/tr] 3 [/td][td] zuma [/td][td] 3 [/td][/tr] 3 [/td][td] flavo5000 [/td][td] 3 [/td][/tr] 5 [/td][td] sol [/td][td] 2 [/td][/tr] 5 [/td][td] peeptoad [/td][td] 2 [/td][/tr] 5 [/td][td] OldAle01 [/td][td] 2 [/td][/tr] 5 [/td][td] allison [/td][td] 2 [/td][/tr] 9 [/td][td] St. Gloede [/td][td] 1 [/td][/tr] 9 [/td][td] Mochard [/td][td] 1 [/td][/tr] 9 [/td][td] Melvelet [/td][td] 1 [/td][/tr] 9 [/td][td] frbrown [/td][td] 1 [/td][/tr] 9 [/td][td] blueboybob [/td][td] 1 [/td][/tr] 9 [/td][td] 72aicm [/td][td] 1 [/td][/tr]
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Post by blueboybob » June 28th, 2020, 7:14 pm

In preparing for this challenge I found something that may help others

bal3x has made a LOT of director fimographies, so check out their lists -- https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/?tags=user:bal3x

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » June 28th, 2020, 7:55 pm

- A feature film or TV episode over 40 minutes counts as one entry.
- A total of 60 minutes of short films and/or tv episodes under 40 minutes from a single director count as one entry.
-Any television series or mini-series can only count toward one entry for a given director. This means that whether you watch two episodes or two seasons of The Knick for Soderbergh, it will still only count as one entry.
These sound contradictory to me. :mw_confused:

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Post by 72aicm » June 28th, 2020, 8:16 pm

I’m in. I am suffering a lot from movie watching fatigue these days though. So dunno if I’ll watch many.

This is a cool idea for a challenge. Thank you for hosting Flavo.

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Post by Lakigigar » June 28th, 2020, 11:35 pm

Will maybe participate and focus on these directors

Nicolas Winding Refn
Hirokazu Koreeda
Sion Sono
Andrey Zvyagintsev
Takeshi Kitano
Dario Argento
Hayao Miyazaki
Joon-ho Bong
Hong-jin Na
Chan-wook Park
Gus Van Sant
Quentin Tarantino
Coen Brothers
Tetsuya Nakashima

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Post by allisoncm » June 29th, 2020, 2:28 am

I'm in. I'm hoping to explore some of my favorite filmmaker's filmographies and cover some blindspots. Hoping to delve in deeper to the Michael Curtiz, Alan J. Pakula, King Vidor, and Raoul Walsh piles for starters.

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Post by flavo5000 » June 29th, 2020, 2:54 am

Lonewolf2003 wrote:
June 28th, 2020, 7:55 pm
- A feature film or TV episode over 40 minutes counts as one entry.
- A total of 60 minutes of short films and/or tv episodes under 40 minutes from a single director count as one entry.
-Any television series or mini-series can only count toward one entry for a given director. This means that whether you watch two episodes or two seasons of The Knick for Soderbergh, it will still only count as one entry.
These sound contradictory to me. :mw_confused:
Basically anything over 40 minutes counts as a point. Anything under 40 minutes requires you to add up 60 minutes worth of stuff. It's the same rule we usually do on challenges just with the addition of everything being from one director as well as not re-using the same TV series or mini-series for that director for more than one entry.

Example:
Correct: (Different entries from different TV series)
1a. Tales From The Crypt: Yellow (Zemeckis, 1991) 37 min
1b. Tales from the Crypt: And All Through the House (Zemeckis, 1989)
1c. Tales from the Crypt: You Murderer (Zemeckis, 1995)
2. Amazing Stories: Go to the Head of the Class (Zemeckis, 1986) 60 min.
3. Death Becomes Her (Zemeckis, 1992)

Not Correct: (Tales from the Crypt is used in two separate entries, both 1. and 2.)
1a. Tales From The Crypt: Yellow (Zemeckis, 1991) 37 min
1b. The Lift (Zemeckis, 1972) 8 min.
1c. Field of Honor (Zemeckis, 1973) 15 min.
2a. Tales from the Crypt: You Murderer (Zemeckis, 1995)
2b. Tales from the Crypt: And All Through the House (Zemeckis, 1989)
2c. Back to the Future: Doc Brown Saves the World (2015)
3. What Lies Beneath (Zemeckis, 2000)

I can include this example in the OP as well.

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Post by peeptoad » June 29th, 2020, 3:55 pm

In for sure. Thanks for hosting flavo. :party:

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Post by cinephage » June 29th, 2020, 4:10 pm

I'm in with Curtiz, Becker and Duvivier, only 3 films for each. I'll see where I go from there, but knowing my slow pace, that could very well occupy my whole month...

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Post by zuma » June 29th, 2020, 4:22 pm

In.

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Post by OldAle1 » June 29th, 2020, 4:42 pm

In. Not going to do TV ( rarely do anyway), that seems too confusing, unless I keep watching Cheers, where nearly the whole series is directed by the same guy.

Will probably focus on Corman, watch a few from that schlocky sub-Asylum Canadian director I mentioned elsewhere, maybe some better Canadians like Arcand, Carle, Jutra, and hopefully get back to my Satyajit Ray rundown. Oh and Neil Breen, that should go without saying. What I'm wondering is if anybody has the guts to do 3+ Friedberg/Seltzer flicks - that's a bridge too far for me.

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Post by hurluberlu » June 29th, 2020, 6:31 pm

In ! I will be focusing on groups of 3 and first time viewings from

Todd Haynes
Lars von Trier
René Clair
John Cassavetes
Julien Duvivier
Atom Egoyan
Jean-Luc Godard
Sang-soo Hong
Guillaume Nicloux
Mikio Naruse
Preston Sturges
Rainer Werner Fassbinder
Jacques Rivette

and/or pending mood and times hundreds of due rewatches...
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Post by allisoncm » June 29th, 2020, 8:36 pm

I wonder if it's asking to much to have a tally of the most popular directors people will have watched for this challenge.

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Post by flavo5000 » June 29th, 2020, 11:11 pm

allisoncm wrote:
June 29th, 2020, 8:36 pm
I wonder if it's asking to much to have a tally of the most popular directors people will have watched for this challenge.
I was planning to keep track of that actually.

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Post by St. Gloede » June 30th, 2020, 10:38 am

As is often the case my viewing habits are off the challenges by a month or so ... I just ran through a 6 film Rohmer rewatch, 5 film Bresson rewatch + the first 4 films of Pietro Marcello and the 3 first (TV) fims of Ming-Liang Tsai for the first time these last 4-5 weeks ...

But of course, I can't quite schedule my interests.

Will try to join in.

I never saw Rohmer's last 3 films, so that is a very likely candidate. Beyond that I'm not sure who I'll focus on. Perhaps more Bresson rewatches. Will see.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » June 30th, 2020, 12:03 pm

I will start with some King Hu movies as leftovers from the China challenge. After that I will probably move to Billy Wilder and from there I will see later, I have multiple directors I've multiple blurays stacked up for, plus there being retrospectives for directors on Mubi, like Sacha Guitry.

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Post by peeptoad » June 30th, 2020, 12:14 pm

St. Gloede wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 10:38 am
As is often the case my viewing habits are off the challenges by a month or so ... I just ran through a 6 film Rohmer rewatch, 5 film Bresson rewatch + the first 4 films of Pietro Marcello and the 3 first (TV) fims of Ming-Liang Tsai for the first time these last 4-5 weeks ...

But of course, I can't quite schedule my interests.

Will try to join in.

I never saw Rohmer's last 3 films, so that is a very likely candidate. Beyond that I'm not sure who I'll focus on. Perhaps more Bresson rewatches. Will see.
Rohmer is one of 13 directors I've got lined up for next month. Hopefully I can get to at least 8 or 9 of them. I've never seen a Rohmer film, so I'm making him somewhat of a priority.

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Post by St. Gloede » June 30th, 2020, 1:41 pm

peeptoad wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 12:14 pm
St. Gloede wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 10:38 am
As is often the case my viewing habits are off the challenges by a month or so ... I just ran through a 6 film Rohmer rewatch, 5 film Bresson rewatch + the first 4 films of Pietro Marcello and the 3 first (TV) fims of Ming-Liang Tsai for the first time these last 4-5 weeks ...

But of course, I can't quite schedule my interests.

Will try to join in.

I never saw Rohmer's last 3 films, so that is a very likely candidate. Beyond that I'm not sure who I'll focus on. Perhaps more Bresson rewatches. Will see.
Rohmer is one of 13 directors I've got lined up for next month. Hopefully I can get to at least 8 or 9 of them. I've never seen a Rohmer film, so I'm making him somewhat of a priority.
That's phenomenal, which films are you thinking of looking up?

We just did our podcast on his Comedies & Proverb cycle, and in case you do seek them out I have to stress how important it is to see them in order.

You can also catch up on the spoiler-free portions of the podcast if interested (we will bring up the overall plot set-up though) (Part 2 is recording, one ep will be released first). viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4946&view=unread#unread

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Post by Lakigigar » June 30th, 2020, 2:17 pm

What i'm planning on seeing.
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Challenge:
The Wailing
The Murderer
The Chaser

Barking Dogs Never Bite
Memories of Murder
The Host
Mother
Snowpiercer
Okja

Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance
Oldboy
Sympathy for Lady Vengeance
Bakjwi
Stoker
Ah-ga-ssi
Joint Security Area

Suicide Circle
Strange Circus
Noriko's Dinner Table
Ai no Mukidashi
Guilty of Romance
The Land of Hope
Tokyo Tribe
The Whispering Star
Tag
Antiporno
The Forest of Love

Pusher
Pusher II
Pusher III
Bronson
Valhalla Rising
Bleeder
Fear X
Only God Forgives
The Neon Demon

Sonatine
Hana-Bi
Kikujiro
Dolls
Zatoichi

My Own Private Idaho
Paranoid Park
Last Days

Profondo Rosso
Inferno
Tenebre
Phenomena
Opera

Nobody Knows
Shoplifters
The Third Murder
After the Storm
Still Walking
Air Doll
I Wish

Vozvrashchenie
Izgnanie
Elena
Leviafan
Nelyubov

Kill Bill: Vol. 1
Kill Bill: Vol. 2
Sin City
Django Unchained
The Hateful Eight
Once upon a Time in... Hollywood

The Big Lebowski
True Grit
Inside Llewyn Davis
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs

Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
Castle in the Sky
My Neighbor Totoro
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Post by peeptoad » June 30th, 2020, 2:34 pm

St. Gloede wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 1:41 pm
peeptoad wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 12:14 pm
St. Gloede wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 10:38 am
As is often the case my viewing habits are off the challenges by a month or so ... I just ran through a 6 film Rohmer rewatch, 5 film Bresson rewatch + the first 4 films of Pietro Marcello and the 3 first (TV) fims of Ming-Liang Tsai for the first time these last 4-5 weeks ...

But of course, I can't quite schedule my interests.

Will try to join in.

I never saw Rohmer's last 3 films, so that is a very likely candidate. Beyond that I'm not sure who I'll focus on. Perhaps more Bresson rewatches. Will see.
Rohmer is one of 13 directors I've got lined up for next month. Hopefully I can get to at least 8 or 9 of them. I've never seen a Rohmer film, so I'm making him somewhat of a priority.
That's phenomenal, which films are you thinking of looking up?

We just did our podcast on his Comedies & Proverb cycle, and in case you do seek them out I have to stress how important it is to see them in order.

You can also catch up on the spoiler-free portions of the podcast if interested (we will bring up the overall plot set-up though) (Part 2 is recording, one ep will be released first). viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4946&view=unread#unread
Let's see for Rohmer I was going to go for at least 3 of: Suzanne's Career, La collectionneuse, My Night at Maud's, Claire's Knee, Love in the Afternoon, since I have a copy of his "6 Moral Tales" on dvd. :)
Thanks for the podcast info. I did see that thread last week, but I haven't had a chance to listen to the 'cast yet...

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Post by OldAle1 » June 30th, 2020, 3:14 pm

Don't discount Rohmer's first feature, the singular Le signe du lion. I haven't listened to the podcast either and don't know what participants get into re: his career as a whole, but I think one way to look at it is to divide it into two broad areas: the films about young loves and passions (but looked at philosophically of course) in contemporary France, which are the bulk of his (feature) filmography, and the historical films. That's just about all of his features but his first stands apart from either group, a dour portrait of an isolated American in a Paris mostly deserted during summer holidays. It had a huge, deep, emotional effect on me (feeling very similar at the time), and it's also an interesting point of comparison with many other first New Wave features - in particular those of Rivette and Godard - where the American influence is very present and mixes interestingly with the French youth culture of the era.

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Post by peeptoad » June 30th, 2020, 3:33 pm

@OldAle thanks for the info. I added Le signe du lion to my watch list. Might not get to it in July, but I'll get to it eventually... :thumbsup:

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Post by flavo5000 » June 30th, 2020, 4:20 pm

I just watched Rohmer's Le Rayon Vert for the TSPDT challenge and honestly I wasn't too impressed with that one compared to some of his others.

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Post by Melvelet » June 30th, 2020, 4:49 pm

Do I have to watch them consecutively/in the order in which I post them?

Anyway, my list of potential directors (most of which have 2 or more left in TSP):

quite possible:
Stanley Kubrick - finish off
John Huston
Brian de Palma
Edward Yang
Jean-Luc Godard
SpoilerShow
maybe:
John Cassavetes
Michael Powell
Max Ophüls
Abbas Kiarostami
Sergei M. Eisenstein
Bernardo Bertolucci
Luchino Visconti
Akira Kurosawa
Elia Kazan
Mike Leigh
Alain Resnais
Jacques Rivette
Richard Linklater
Martin Scorsese
Roberto Rossellini
François Truffaut
Peter Watkins
Jonas Mekas
Charles Chaplin
Jean Eustache
Peter Greenaway
Pier Paolo Pasolini
Ingmar Bergman
Eric Rohmer

unlikely:
Marcel Ophüls
Glauber Rocha
Josef von Sternberg
Guru Dutt
Clint Eastwood
Jerry Lewis
Vincente Minnelli
Jacques Becker
John Woo
Jane Campion
Fritz Lang
Ernst Lubitsch
Jean Renoir
Robert Wise
Howard Hawks
Steven Spielberg
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Post by flavo5000 » June 30th, 2020, 5:56 pm

Melvelet wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 4:49 pm
Do I have to watch them consecutively/in the order in which I post them?

Anyway, my list of potential directors (most of which have 2 or more left in TSP):

quite possible:
Stanley Kubrick - finish off
John Huston
Brian de Palma
Edward Yang
Jean-Luc Godard
SpoilerShow
maybe:
John Cassavetes
Michael Powell
Max Ophüls
Abbas Kiarostami
Sergei M. Eisenstein
Bernardo Bertolucci
Luchino Visconti
Akira Kurosawa
Elia Kazan
Mike Leigh
Alain Resnais
Jacques Rivette
Richard Linklater
Martin Scorsese
Roberto Rossellini
François Truffaut
Peter Watkins
Jonas Mekas
Charles Chaplin
Jean Eustache
Peter Greenaway
Pier Paolo Pasolini
Ingmar Bergman
Eric Rohmer

unlikely:
Marcel Ophüls
Glauber Rocha
Josef von Sternberg
Guru Dutt
Clint Eastwood
Jerry Lewis
Vincente Minnelli
Jacques Becker
John Woo
Jane Campion
Fritz Lang
Ernst Lubitsch
Jean Renoir
Robert Wise
Howard Hawks
Steven Spielberg
John Ford
George Cukor
I mean, I'm not sitting in your house policing when you choose to log your movies. :P I will say the spirit of the challenge is to immerse yourself in a given director before moving onto another though.

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Post by St. Gloede » June 30th, 2020, 7:19 pm

flavo5000 wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 4:20 pm
I just watched Rohmer's Le Rayon Vert for the TSPDT challenge and honestly I wasn't too impressed with that one compared to some of his others.
I wasn't in love with it the first time I saw it, but it is one of my favourite films now, in part because of the importance in the cycle (won't spoil why) , and in part because its incredibly impressive feat (it is entirely improvised, shot with a 4 person skeleton crew and it took 7 months to get the final shot), but most of all for the beauty of the frames and the sorrowful, uneasy experience of seeing a woman struggling to love herself - and the improvised conversations really added to the sense of awkwardness and how she struggled to relate and engage with others.

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Post by St. Gloede » June 30th, 2020, 7:24 pm

peeptoad wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 2:34 pm
St. Gloede wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 1:41 pm
peeptoad wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 12:14 pm


Rohmer is one of 13 directors I've got lined up for next month. Hopefully I can get to at least 8 or 9 of them. I've never seen a Rohmer film, so I'm making him somewhat of a priority.
That's phenomenal, which films are you thinking of looking up?

We just did our podcast on his Comedies & Proverb cycle, and in case you do seek them out I have to stress how important it is to see them in order.

You can also catch up on the spoiler-free portions of the podcast if interested (we will bring up the overall plot set-up though) (Part 2 is recording, one ep will be released first). viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4946&view=unread#unread
Let's see for Rohmer I was going to go for at least 3 of: Suzanne's Career, La collectionneuse, My Night at Maud's, Claire's Knee, Love in the Afternoon, since I have a copy of his "6 Moral Tales" on dvd. :)
Thanks for the podcast info. I did see that thread last week, but I haven't had a chance to listen to the 'cast yet...
I would say that if you want to seek out films from one of his cycles you would likely get more out of it by watching all of them. I don't have Moral Tales as fresh in my mind as Comedies and Proverbs, but in the latter each film (despite unrelated) worked with the others, either building on/expanding a idea or contradicting it, and while each film is set up as a dialectic, the cycle is as well. Rohmer wrote out the Moral Tales as a novel before he made them, and it was carefully planned, so I would not be surprised if this was the case there as well.

(There is of course also the shorter cycle, 4 seasons)

One alternative could be The Sign of Leo, The Moral Tales (6) and then see some of his standalone work like Perceval, Four Adventures of Reinette and Mirabelle and Les rendez-vous de Paris. Personally I think Comedies and Proverbs as a whole is his crowning achievement, but it is good to get on his wavelength before engaging with it - especially as it could be seen as a response to Moral Tales as well.

(Rohmer also technically made the 50m feature debut La sonate à Kreutzer in 1956, with many familiar Cahier faces as actors - but that is very different from anything he did later, and closer to say Astruc's pre-wave film - i.e. inside and narration driven).

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Post by OldAle1 » June 30th, 2020, 7:28 pm

My memories of Le rayon vert are quite dim, and it's probably the one I saw longest ago - in that dim memory it's the least impressive of the six, but I seem to like Rohmer more with every film, and with each of the few re-watches I've done. So who knows, if I can get away from bad Canadian movies this coming month maybe I'll go through that cycle as well, there's only one that I've seen within the last 5 years I think.

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Post by Lakigigar » June 30th, 2020, 7:28 pm

I'm sorry but I probably won't be able to participate in the challenge, i want to focus on some other stuff in the meantime.

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Post by Daviddoes » July 1st, 2020, 7:47 am

Been looking forward to this challenge
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Post by sebby » July 1st, 2020, 7:52 am

Yeah, I'm in. Been wanting to rewatch some Tarkovsky and finish off Rohmer (looks like he's gonna be a popular guy in July) at the least.

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Post by Obgeoff » July 1st, 2020, 9:01 am

I'm in. Not sure for how many. Starting with Louis Malle, Fritz Lang, William Wyler and Michael Curtiz. I'll be more in the 3 to 5 range per director rather than concentrating on 1 to 3 directors in total.
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Post by zzzorf » July 1st, 2020, 11:02 am

I had planned on taking a decent crack at this challenge and had saved up movies from various directors, mainly Jean-Claude Brisseau and Jacques Doillon but I've realised that my viewing habits mean that while I can watch 3 movies from a given director within a few days I will struggle to watch 3 in a row as the only time I can watch my movies is when the rest of my family is asleep other wise I will be watching things more suited to them as well. Maybe I might still be able to sneak in a threesome somewhere in a row and place on the scoreboard but in the end since I am now running the low IMDb challenge I will most likely focus on it.

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Post by St. Gloede » July 1st, 2020, 11:52 am

I think my first director to "run" will be Christian Petzold. Likely his first 3 (TV) films: Pilotinnen, Cubra Libre and Die Beischlafdiebin, though I may continue from there. Seen quite little from the Berlin School overall, so this should be a good start.

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Post by St. Gloede » July 1st, 2020, 12:04 pm

zzzorf wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 11:02 am
I had planned on taking a decent crack at this challenge and had saved up movies from various directors, mainly Jean-Claude Brisseau and Jacques Doillon but I've realised that my viewing habits mean that while I can watch 3 movies from a given director within a few days I will struggle to watch 3 in a row as the only time I can watch my movies is when the rest of my family is asleep other wise I will be watching things more suited to them as well. Maybe I might still be able to sneak in a threesome somewhere in a row and place on the scoreboard but in the end since I am now running the low IMDb challenge I will most likely focus on it.
You don't need to see them in a row, you just need to see 3 to declare them. You can watch them over a week interchanged with other films and then add them when you get up to 3 films for one of them.

I might catch up on some later Doillon too. I have seen his 6 features up to and including 1981, but only seen Ponnette (1996) from '82 and onwards. His 70s work put him on the track to be a master (Touched in the Head and The Crying Woman are both favourites of mine), but it clearly didn't quite pan out that way. Still, I'm excited to see what he actually ended up doing.

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Post by peeptoad » July 1st, 2020, 12:41 pm

St. Gloede wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 7:24 pm
peeptoad wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 2:34 pm
St. Gloede wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 1:41 pm


That's phenomenal, which films are you thinking of looking up?

We just did our podcast on his Comedies & Proverb cycle, and in case you do seek them out I have to stress how important it is to see them in order.

You can also catch up on the spoiler-free portions of the podcast if interested (we will bring up the overall plot set-up though) (Part 2 is recording, one ep will be released first). viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4946&view=unread#unread
Let's see for Rohmer I was going to go for at least 3 of: Suzanne's Career, La collectionneuse, My Night at Maud's, Claire's Knee, Love in the Afternoon, since I have a copy of his "6 Moral Tales" on dvd. :)
Thanks for the podcast info. I did see that thread last week, but I haven't had a chance to listen to the 'cast yet...
I would say that if you want to seek out films from one of his cycles you would likely get more out of it by watching all of them. I don't have Moral Tales as fresh in my mind as Comedies and Proverbs, but in the latter each film (despite unrelated) worked with the others, either building on/expanding a idea or contradicting it, and while each film is set up as a dialectic, the cycle is as well. Rohmer wrote out the Moral Tales as a novel before he made them, and it was carefully planned, so I would not be surprised if this was the case there as well.

(There is of course also the shorter cycle, 4 seasons)

One alternative could be The Sign of Leo, The Moral Tales (6) and then see some of his standalone work like Perceval, Four Adventures of Reinette and Mirabelle and Les rendez-vous de Paris. Personally I think Comedies and Proverbs as a whole is his crowning achievement, but it is good to get on his wavelength before engaging with it - especially as it could be seen as a response to Moral Tales as well.

(Rohmer also technically made the 50m feature debut La sonate à Kreutzer in 1956, with many familiar Cahier faces as actors - but that is very different from anything he did later, and closer to say Astruc's pre-wave film - i.e. inside and narration driven).
Excellent, thank you for the additional information on Rohmer's filmography. This is very intriguing stuff... since I already have access to the one set/cycle (Moral Tales) I am going to start there (there was actually a reason I chose some of these films to start with, other than the dvd set being very inexpensive), but I will be sure to watch them all, in sequence, in order to get the most out of them and retain the cohesion of the film cycle. For "run the director" this should fit well into my plan for the entire month (unless my free time dwindles again).

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Post by Obgeoff » July 1st, 2020, 1:01 pm

St. Gloede wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 12:04 pm
zzzorf wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 11:02 am
I had planned on taking a decent crack at this challenge and had saved up movies from various directors, mainly Jean-Claude Brisseau and Jacques Doillon but I've realised that my viewing habits mean that while I can watch 3 movies from a given director within a few days I will struggle to watch 3 in a row as the only time I can watch my movies is when the rest of my family is asleep other wise I will be watching things more suited to them as well. Maybe I might still be able to sneak in a threesome somewhere in a row and place on the scoreboard but in the end since I am now running the low IMDb challenge I will most likely focus on it.
You don't need to see them in a row, you just need to see 3 to declare them. You can watch them over a week interchanged with other films and then add them when you get up to 3 films for one of them.
I don't think that is the case. The opening post suggests that it is much stricter than that with three in a row strongly encouraged.
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Post by St. Gloede » July 1st, 2020, 1:18 pm

Obgeoff wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 1:01 pm
St. Gloede wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 12:04 pm
zzzorf wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 11:02 am
I had planned on taking a decent crack at this challenge and had saved up movies from various directors, mainly Jean-Claude Brisseau and Jacques Doillon but I've realised that my viewing habits mean that while I can watch 3 movies from a given director within a few days I will struggle to watch 3 in a row as the only time I can watch my movies is when the rest of my family is asleep other wise I will be watching things more suited to them as well. Maybe I might still be able to sneak in a threesome somewhere in a row and place on the scoreboard but in the end since I am now running the low IMDb challenge I will most likely focus on it.
You don't need to see them in a row, you just need to see 3 to declare them. You can watch them over a week interchanged with other films and then add them when you get up to 3 films for one of them.
I don't think that is the case. The opening post suggests that it is much stricter than that with three in a row strongly encouraged.
This is the only rule related to it above:
- When beginning a new run, please declare the director the run is for and post a minimum of three films from the director to start the run. Future consecutive posts tied to the same director can be less than three entries as long as the director does not change. If you change directors and return to a previous director, then the 3-entry initial post rule would apply again.
Essentially you declare a director you wish to pursue and you need to open a "bid", i.e. list them here, start with a selection of 3 films to have them counted towards the challenge. After this you can add films from this director any way you like.

Though Flavo can clarify this in case I misunderstood.

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Post by Obgeoff » July 1st, 2020, 1:24 pm

I'll kick off with Louis Malle:
1. Atlantic City, USA (1980, Malle) 8
2. Black Moon (1975, Malle) 7
3. My Dinner with Andre (1981, Malle) 9
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Post by OldAle1 » July 1st, 2020, 1:24 pm

Yeah I guess I need clarification on this as well, e.g. I am going to watch 5 films from a director who only has 5 films - I will probably watch them all in a row (today) so do I get credited for all 5, or only for 3? And if I watched the three today, watch three from someone else tomorrow, then get back to watch the final two, how does that work?

Sorry, I feel this has been explained but my tiny brain isn't getting it. Also not enough stimulation yet today probably.

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