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Post by outdoorcats » November 10th, 2019, 3:56 am

Welcome to the 2019 iCheckMovies Film Festival!

Festival Dates: Nov. 9-Dec. 2

Please rate the films the films you've seen on a scale from 1-10 to help contribute to this year's Audience Award.
(Ratings are due by the end of day on December 2nd EST to be counted)

This is the thread where all users can rate and discuss the films in this year's Arthouse section, the section for those who like to arty hard. We're looking forward to everyone in the iCM Forum community taking part!

Anyone who watches all films in this section by the end date can also help pick the jury award for this section.



I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians dir. Radu Jude. 2018, 140 min. :imdb::ICM:
"To fully deconstruct Romanian director Radu Jude’s meta-on-meta I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians...would require page upon page of single-spaced footnotes, swathes of Hannah Arendt, a deft repackaging of Walter Benjamin’s “Theses on the Philosophy of History,” and a crash course in Romanian anti-Semitism and the nation’s participation in World War II, amid formal nods to Godard, Straub-Huillet, and Marxist critical theory, while martial music plays in the background." -Jessica Kiang, Variety
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A Gentle Creature dir. Sergey Loznitsa. 2017, 143 min. :imdb::ICM:
"On the old-fashioned theatrical circuit, A Gentle Creature has about as much chance of commercial success as a hothouse orchid does of surviving a Siberian winter" -Leslie Felperin, The Hollywood Reporter
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Rey dir. Niles Atallah. 2017, 91 min. :imdb::ICM:
"It took [Atallah] seven years to make Rey; the process included...burying the 16mm footage in his back garden to artificially age it." -Cath Clarke, The Guardian
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Winter Brothers dir. Hlynur Palmason. 2017, 94 min. :imdb::ICM:
"Winter Brothers is a debut feature from a director with a background as a visual artist; for better and worse, it shows." -Ben Kenigsburg, The New York Times
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Post by fori » November 10th, 2019, 4:08 am

Rey 7/10 - I enjoyed this a lot, but am perpetually frustrated by the persistence of celluloid in this type of filmmaking. Something like this could be made much more efficiently and with a greater visual vocabulary at its disposal with digital filmmaking. Granted, it would be an entirely different project.
A Gentle Creature 6/10

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Post by Ivan0716 » November 10th, 2019, 6:11 am

outdoorcats wrote:
November 10th, 2019, 3:56 am
Anyone who watches all films in this section by the end date can also help pick the jury award for this section.
Do programmers count? :whistling:

Here's my ranking:
1. A Gentle Creature
2. I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians
3. Winter Brothers
4. Rey

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Post by Estonian Bot » November 10th, 2019, 6:15 am

I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians dir. Radu Jude. 2018, 140 min.

Anyone know how I can see this?

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Post by outdoorcats » November 10th, 2019, 1:43 pm

We've let them count in the past.

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Post by lynchs » November 10th, 2019, 3:15 pm

Arthouse :circle:

Rey (2017) 510 kinda goofy

Vinterbrødre (2017) 610 lacks something

Have both here to see :thumbsup:
Krotkaya (2017)
Îmi este indiferent daca în istorie vom intra ca barbari (2018)

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Post by maxwelldeux » November 10th, 2019, 4:54 pm

All - I'm in charge of collecting ratings for the sections, so please keep a few things in mind to help make my life just a bit easier:

- Please use the English titles when noting your ratings
- Make sure you report your ratings on the 1-10 IMDB scale
- Don't edit your posts - please make a new post when you add more ratings (so I actually see them)
- If you see any errors or omissions on my data collection, please point it out to me.

If you want to see the ratings and follow along, here is the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

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Post by Cinepolis » November 10th, 2019, 9:19 pm

A Gentle Creature - 7/10

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Post by Estonian Bot » November 11th, 2019, 12:38 am

Estonian Bot wrote:
November 10th, 2019, 6:15 am
I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians dir. Radu Jude. 2018, 140 min.

Anyone know how I can see this?
Tis OK. I'm sorted.

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Post by matthewscott8 » November 11th, 2019, 10:23 am

I can watch 3 of these for free on Amazon, and as for the fourth I'll order the bluray. I will stick to this section given my limited time!

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Post by cinephage » November 11th, 2019, 4:16 pm

My rating :

A Gentle Creature 7,5/10

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Post by St. Gloede » November 11th, 2019, 5:37 pm

I will focus on the main slate first, and then jump in here.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » November 12th, 2019, 11:25 pm

I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians (2018): 6.8 - Unfortunately long stretches of this feel more like a philosophical history lesson than a movie. Luckily some other parts, especially the reenactment, does work.

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Post by Ivan0716 » November 14th, 2019, 4:14 pm

Ivan0716 wrote:
November 10th, 2019, 6:11 am
1. A Gentle Creature - 8.1
2. I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians - 7.4
3. Winter Brothers - 6.2
4. Rey - 6
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Post by beavis » November 14th, 2019, 8:04 pm

I watched "I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians" tonight. My first film during the festival and 42nd of the entire slate. I had somehow avoided this earlier in the year when I had a few opportunity's to catch it at cinema's. Thinking I might not like it too much and will always be able to catch it later. But I must say, I really liked this one! It has a great dynamic with personal moments, a bit of a history lesson and also more political and psychological interactions, all revolving around a very strong central character that carries the movie. solid 4-star and 8.5 from me.

1. Rey - 8,5
2. Winter Brothers - 8,5
3. I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians - 8,5
4. A Gentle Creature - 8

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Post by St. Gloede » November 17th, 2019, 6:26 pm

Excellent selection, will do my write-ups over the coming week (they may be a little shorter).

I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians - 9
Rey - 8,5
Winter Brothers - 8
A Gentle Creature - 8

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Post by kingink » November 22nd, 2019, 7:56 pm

A Gentle Creature 7/10
It's his third film that I have watched and every single time I want to love them but somethign holds me back. Too bad...

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Post by John Milton » November 24th, 2019, 1:35 pm

Rey 7/10

The other three titles are all on my to watch pile, but since I have that in each category, with little over week to go I won't be able to watch up on those in time.

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Post by hurluberlu » November 28th, 2019, 7:27 pm

I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians 7-
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Post by hurluberlu » November 29th, 2019, 7:34 pm

Rey 8
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Post by xianjiro » November 30th, 2019, 11:20 pm

I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians - 6
A Gentle Creature - 8
Rey - 6
Winter Brothers - 8

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Post by Straka » December 1st, 2019, 2:45 pm

Rey - 7/10

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Post by outdoorcats » December 2nd, 2019, 10:19 pm

Rey - 7.5
Winter Brothers - 8.8

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Post by outdoorcats » December 4th, 2019, 11:20 pm

beavis/Ivan/Gloede, can we call Barbarians the winner?

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Post by maxwelldeux » December 5th, 2019, 12:04 am

outdoorcats wrote:
December 4th, 2019, 11:20 pm
beavis/Ivan/Gloede, can we call Barbarians the winner?
The data gives a slight edge to Winter Brothers, though Barbarians is right behind, so hearing from beavis/Ivan/Gloede would be good.

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Post by xianjiro » December 5th, 2019, 2:36 am

I think someone forgot me since, well, I'm everywhere in the festival - so it's easy. Or maybe it was intentional since I clearly downvoted Barbarians. I personally think Winter Brothers the better film in the category. A Gentle Creature would be my #2 and Barbarians #3.

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Post by outdoorcats » December 5th, 2019, 4:29 am

Sorry, I'm well past my bedtime and I'm trying to cram this between overdue work. (I also haven't seen Barbarians) With your votes included it looks more like A Gentle Creature is the consensus pick overall?

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Post by xianjiro » December 5th, 2019, 9:44 am

outdoorcats wrote:
December 5th, 2019, 4:29 am
Sorry, I'm well past my bedtime and I'm trying to cram this between overdue work. (I also haven't seen Barbarians) With your votes included it looks more like A Gentle Creature is the consensus pick overall?
I would certainly support A Gentle Creature, but I'm certainly not willing to throw a tantrum to get my way on this one if there is more support from others for Barbarians. ;)

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Post by Ivan0716 » December 5th, 2019, 1:28 pm

outdoorcats wrote:
December 5th, 2019, 4:29 am
Sorry, I'm well past my bedtime and I'm trying to cram this between overdue work. (I also haven't seen Barbarians) With your votes included it looks more like A Gentle Creature is the consensus pick overall?
Barbarians: 1233
Winter Bros: 1233
A Gentle Creature: 1244
Rey: 1244

Funny how we all had a different #1 and #2. I'm happy with Barbarians as the winner.

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Post by beavis » December 5th, 2019, 2:33 pm

they are all véry close for me. my favorite section of the entire festival too

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Post by St. Gloede » December 5th, 2019, 8:19 pm

Barbarians is the only major standout for me, but all are great, if it is between Creature and Brothers I go with the latter.

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Post by outdoorcats » December 6th, 2019, 2:42 am

So going by the 3-2-1 pts system Barbarians and Winter Brothers are tied. Can we call both winners, like when Taste of Cherry and The Eel shared the Golden Palm?

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Post by xianjiro » December 6th, 2019, 2:57 am

works for me

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Post by St. Gloede » December 6th, 2019, 8:14 pm

For me as well.

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