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WFC2: Random Roulette (aka zzzorf's Facebook Movie Challenge)

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WFC2: Random Roulette (aka zzzorf's Facebook Movie Challenge)

#1

Post by zzzorf » July 1st, 2019, 9:51 am

Over the last year and a bit I have been holding a challenge here on Facebook in a group (known as Wayne's Flickchart Challenge or WFC for short) where the other members (majority made up of people I had met through the Flickchart Facebook Group) recommend me movies to watch that I haven't seen in a tournament style setting. I did this to help broaden my cinematic horizons as I am still a relatively new Cinephile and I have watched some great movies during that time, some I may not have watched without the prompting. The challenge is in its home stretch with less than 10 movies left for me to watch which should be done in the next few weeks. Due to this I have opened up the 2nd incarnation of my challenge WFC 2: Random Roulette and will see the participants recommend me movies given by prompts they will receive by a random method.

Also during that year I have become involved here at these forums and have watched movies I never thought about watching before and enjoyed a lot of them. The movies that you all offer are a unique perspective and that is why I am offering those of you here to join my challenge and help me continue to explore the areas of cinema I have never seen. You don't have to watch anything yourself, just recommend me stuff when it is time and I will watch it.

The rules are pinned as an announcement when you get there and you can feel free to snap up your first movie if you want. Just know that since this challenge isn't officially started yet and your movie gets watched for another reason such as in the final rounds of my original challenge you will have to pick again.

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Post by zzzorf » July 3rd, 2019, 3:39 am

I've had 2 takers from these forums so far join anyone else feel like getting involved and recommending me some movies to watch?

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Post by zzzorf » July 14th, 2019, 1:33 am

My challenge has begun and I am now starting to watch the original movies given to me. There is still room for anyone here to join if they wish. I would love to have some of the more obscure movies you guys and girls here can give

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Post by maxwelldeux » July 14th, 2019, 1:52 am

I mean, biggest road block for me is not having Facebook...

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Post by zzzorf » July 14th, 2019, 1:56 am

Easy fixed. The first round is the seeding round. You just need to choose a movie from my unwatched DVD list here to enter. https://letterboxd.com/zzzorf/list/dvd- ... pick-list/

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Post by zzzorf » July 14th, 2019, 1:57 am

Here is a copy of the original rules post.

FLICKCHART DETAILS
USERNAME: zzzorf
Top 250 movies: http://www.flickchart.com/Charts.aspx?u ... erpage=250
SCORING
All scoring for this group will be done by the final % that the movie lands on my Flickchart when first added to it. While not an exact science it is one as Flickchart users we all agree is as close as we can get. Scores will reset at the beginning of each new round.
SEEDING ROUND
I have a dvd collection of over 1400 DVD's yet have only seen about half of them. For the initial round to gain entry into the challenge all the participant needs to do is choose a movie from the Letterboxd list I have prepared of those movies I have never seen that I own. The movie selection will be a first in/first served basis and I will endeavour to delete selected movies off the list as they occur to save confusion. Depending on numbers there may be a small amount of participants eliminated at the end of this round of those with the lowest score but don't despair, there is a way to regain entry back in the later rounds.
DVD LIST: https://letterboxd.com/zzzorf/list/dvd- ... pick-list/
MAIN ROUNDS
I have 250 prompts ranging from Genres, Decades, Styles, Keywords etc that have randomly been signed a number between 1 and 250. Going in the order of reverse finish (lowest score first) from the previous round each participant will choose a number and they will be given their prompt. They are then to give me a movie based on that prompt or choose to pass at a penalty of 10% off their score and rechoose a new number. Later users also have the added advantage of instead of choosing a number they may choose a prompt that was previously passed that is still unused. As long as I have 5 movies to watch the next participant can wait to see how the previous movies go before choosing their number but as soon as it goes below 5 they must choose. PLEASE NOTE: I may not watch these in order, that is why I am having 5 chosen at a time but I will get to everything.
ELIMINATIONS
Each round a predetermined amount of people will be eliminated from the challenge. This number will be decided upon when a complete picture of how many participants enter. The amount of rounds will be decided at the same time. (Has since been set to 4 a round)
RE-ENTRY
If at the end of any given round their is still a passed prompt that has not been claimed an eliminated competitor can claim that prompt and re-enter the challenge. This will cause the elimination number for that round to be increased by one. This will be a first in/first served basis. Once you have been eliminated twice from the challenge you are exempt from this loophole.
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Post by maxwelldeux » July 14th, 2019, 2:14 am

zzzorf wrote:
July 14th, 2019, 1:56 am
Easy fixed. The first round is the seeding round. You just need to choose a movie from my unwatched DVD list here to enter. https://letterboxd.com/zzzorf/list/dvd- ... pick-list/
All right. My pick:

Wall Street (1987)

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Post by zzzorf » July 15th, 2019, 10:29 pm

To keep Maxwelldeux in the loop of what's going 9n in the Facebook group since he can't join and for anyone else who is interested I will post each movie as I watch it here as posted in the group. Also anyone else who wishes to join you still have time if you want to recommend me some great movies. I won't close entrants until the completion of the seeding round.

Movie: Conan the Barbarian (1982)
Recommender: Dan Kocher
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: I love a good Schwarzenegger action flick and this is one I haven't seen yet so it was a good choice from Dan in that respect. Maybe because this was sword not gunplay is why it didn't sit with me as good as I would have hoped. I mean I've got nothing against sword play, Highlander is in my top 30 afterall, but when I think of big action Arnie I think of big guns.
It didn't help the fact that this movie seemed to move a little slowly, feeling every part of its two-hour runtime. I enjoyed the story and all that but I think the direction would have been better if a more experienced director had taken the roll.
I will say though that the movie at least got me interested enough to watch the sequel which at the moment seems to be a bit more up my alley than the original.

Rating: 5/10
Flickchart Entry: < Unfriended (2014)
< Carry On Cabby (1963)
> Mystery in the Bermuda Triangle (1979)
> The Devil's Playground (1976)
< Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Rodrick Rules (2011)
> Cat's Eye (1985)
> The People Under the Stairs (1991)
> Go (1999)
> The Pact (2012)
< Das Boot (1981)
> The Book of Eli (2010)
3007/3840
Score: 22%
Round Ranking: 1/1

Recommendation Ranking:136/164
Director Ranking: John Milius - No rank, first movie rated

Flickchart Stats
Director: John Milius - 1/1
Actors: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 20/21
Max von Sydow - 11/12
Sandahl Bergman - 2/2
Cassandra Gaviola - 1/1
Gerry Lopez: 1/1
Genres: Action - 649/806
Adventure - 571/725
Based-on-20th-Century-Literature - 228/289
Fantasy Adventure - 183/225
Fantasy - 461/561
Sword-and-Sorcery - 25/34
Franchises: N/A
Year: 1982 - 23/31

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Post by zzzorf » July 18th, 2019, 11:55 am

Movie: Balls Out: The Gary Houseman Story (2009)
Recommender: Bailey Little
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: Of course my son would pick a movie like this. Granted I don't know he really realised what it would be other than it was a funny sports movie but it just seems like something I would have enjoyed at his age. The movie had it's funny moments but it also had a lot of moments that just failed miserably.
Upon checking out the Director I realised that he was the same one that had done Dude, Where's My Car?, therefore having done a similar type of comedy with Seann William Scott before. While this movie tried to emulate that previous movie it did fail quite a bit and it didn't help Scott wasn't at his best, with isn't that great in the first place anyway.
I will say though that I laughed enough throughout that the movie wasn't a complete bust and might be something I would chuck on again if I ever found myself really bored.
Rating: 5/10

Flickchart entry: < The Social Network
< Three Faces of Foley (2002)
> Mystery in the Bermuda Triangle (1979)
< The Devil's Playground (1976)
> Changeling (2008)
> Crazy Eights (2006)
> The Hills Have Eyes 2 (2007)
> Miller's Crossing (1990)
> Men in Black III (2012)
< Ultimate Avengers (2006)
3130/3848
Score: 19%
Round Ranking: 2/2

Recommendation Ranking: 144/167
Director Ranking: Danny Leiner - No rank, first movie rated

Flickchart Stats
Director: Danny Leiner - 1/2
Actors: Meredith Eaton - 1/1
Seann William Scott - 7/8
Randy Quaid - 7/7
Leonor Varela - 2/3
Brando Eaton - 1/1
Genres: Comedy - 780/911
Gross-Out Comedy - 34/38
Slapstick - 77/92
Sports Comedy - 44/47
Franchises: N/A
Year: 2009 - 133/154

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Post by zzzorf » July 21st, 2019, 11:56 am

Movie: LOL (2012)
Recommender: Abigail Little
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: Whose bright idea was it to let my kids in on this challenge? My 10 year old had to choose a Miley Cyrus led teen movie didn't she. I mean I have some great stuff laying around but she had to choose something she watches with her older sister and really didn't look very appealing to me.
It's a pity I'm a sucker for Coming of Age movies, especially female-led ones.
Yeah this move isn't very original and is pretty run of the mill but there isn't much wrong with that is there. The movie wasn't anything earth shattering like others will be in this challenge but it is an easy way to kill time, especially with my daughters.
I do need to see the original French version by the same Director as I think, like everyone else, I am going to like it even more.

Rating: 6/10
Flickchart entry: < Unfriended (2014)
> The Two-Wheeled Time Machine (1997)
> Them! (1954)
> RoboCop (2014)
> Children of the Corn II: The Final Sacrifice (1992)
< Transformers: Age of Extinction (2014)
< The Marine 4: Moving Target (2015)
> LEGO Scooby-Doo! Blowout Beach Bash (2017)
> Tad, the Lost Explorer (2012)
< The Final Destination (2009)
< Conan the Destroyer (1984)
< Universal Soldier: Regeneration (2009)
2027/3855
Score: 47%
Round Ranking: 1/3

Recommendation Ranking: 99/168
Director Ranking: Lisa Azuelos - No rank, first movie rated

Flickchart Stats
Director:
Lisa Azuelos - 1/1
Actors: Miley Cyrus - 3/3
Ashley Greene - 2/4
Douglas Booth - 3/4
Demi Moore - 3/7
Adam G. Sevani - 1/2
Genres: Comedy - 492/912
Coming-of-Age - 94/153
Romance - 200/358
Romantic Comedy - 60/103
Teen Movie - 102/157
Franchises: Lionsgate Entertainment - 92/180
Year: 2012 - 80/141

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Post by zzzorf » July 21st, 2019, 1:20 pm

Movie: Laura (1944)
Recommender: Stephen Roney
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: It is pretty well known that Film Noir doesn't really work for me, yeah there are some I like but there are many of the greats just don't sit well for me. A lot of this may be because I have only started to watch these movies in the last 3 years and the whole concept is new to me. Laura is one of those movies that I have been eager to see but haven't got around to because of that genre tag.
This movie was more what I picture Film Noir to be in my head than the majority of others I have seen. My basic understanding (which I do know is wrong) is a detective solving a murder, exactly what I got here.
I loved the twists and turns I got and I wish that over time I can get to see more movies in this vein.

Rating: 8/10
Flickchart entry: > Unfriended (2014)
> An Evening with the Dixie Chicks (2002)
> Jigsaw (2017)
< Phar Lap (1984)
> The Blind Side (2009)
< Mermaid (2007)
< Felicity (1979)
> The Hunger Games: Catching Fire (2013)
> Bait (2012)
< Beowulf (1999)
> The Expendables 2 (2012)
337/3856
Score: 91%
Round Ranking: 1/4

Recommendation Ranking: 14/169
Director Ranking: Otto Preminger - No rank, first movie rated

Flickchart Stats
Director:
Otto Preminger - 1/1
Actors: Gene Tierney - 1/3
Dana Andrews - 2/4
Clifton Webb - 1/2
Vincent Price - 1/9
Judith Anderson - 1/3
Genres: Crime - 31/349
Crime Thriller - 22/188
Detective Film - 4/42
Femme Fatale - 2/17
Film Noir - 2/20
Mystery - 23/243
Psychological Thriller - 17/183
Romance - 41/359
Romantic Mystery - 3/14
Thriller - 73/828
Franchises: Academy Award Nominated - 43/338
National Film Registry - 29/181
They Shoot Pictures, Don't They? - 35/300
1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die - 48/358
Roger Ebert's Great Movies - 17/145
1,000 Noir Films: They Shot Dark Pictures, Didn't They? - 3/55
Year: 1944 - 3/6

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Post by lynchs » July 21st, 2019, 1:21 pm

zzzorf, Wayne Little? That's you?

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Post by zzzorf » July 21st, 2019, 8:57 pm

lynchs wrote:
July 21st, 2019, 1:21 pm
zzzorf, Wayne Little? That's you?
Yep this is me. And you are?

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Post by lynchs » July 22nd, 2019, 3:56 pm

zzzorf wrote:
July 21st, 2019, 8:57 pm
lynchs wrote:
July 21st, 2019, 1:21 pm
zzzorf, Wayne Little? That's you?
Yep this is me. And you are?
not Michelle :turned:

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Post by zzzorf » July 22nd, 2019, 9:10 pm

lynchs wrote:
July 22nd, 2019, 3:56 pm
zzzorf wrote:
July 21st, 2019, 8:57 pm
lynchs wrote:
July 21st, 2019, 1:21 pm
zzzorf, Wayne Little? That's you?
Yep this is me. And you are?
not Michelle :turned:
So exactly who I thought you were. All good, you get to be a voyeur two-fold.

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Post by lynchs » July 23rd, 2019, 2:26 pm

zzzorf wrote:
July 22nd, 2019, 9:10 pm
lynchs wrote:
July 22nd, 2019, 3:56 pm
zzzorf wrote:
July 21st, 2019, 8:57 pm


Yep this is me. And you are?
not Michelle :turned:
So exactly who I thought you were. All good, you get to be a voyeur two-fold.
:lol: :thumbsup:

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Post by zzzorf » July 27th, 2019, 5:05 am

Movie: Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1986)
Recommender: Mara Little
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: Peer pressure meant that the next movie I had to watch in this challenge had to be the last of my children to enter a film. Of course my 7 year old daughter was going to find the first animated film she could on the list for us to watch. This led us to an Australian animated version of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde from 1986.
Now while I am familiar of the story I can't remember actually seeing a movie dedicated specifically to it before so I can't really say how this compared to anything else but from what I know it seemed pretty common.
Being a horror story this did have some scary themes for kids and it didn't shy to far away from it as you would expect say a Disney/Dreamwork production would.
In the end though I was glad when the short runtime was over and I had ticked off another thing on my dad card with some of my kids.

Rating: 4/10
Flickchart entry: < Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1986)
< Carry On Cabby (1963)
< A Wrinkle in Time (2018)
> Sometimes They Come Back (1991)
> The Railway Man (2013)
> 3 A.M. (2001)
< Black Orpheus (1959)
> Alone for Christmas (2013)
< Inside (2013)
< O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
< Sleeping Beauty (1987)
< Number Seventeen (1932)
3425/3861
Score: 11%
Round Ranking: 5/5

Recommendation Ranking: 156/170
Director Ranking: Geoff Collins - No rank, first movie rated

Flickchart Stats
Director:
Geoff Collins - 1/1
Actors: Max Meldrum - 1/1
David Nettheim - 1/1
John Ewart - 2/2
Genres: Animation - 414/452
Based-on-19th-Century-Literature - 75/77
Horror: 605/695
Sci-Fi: 94/111
Science Fiction: 498/550
Franchises: N/A
Year: 1986 - 39/44

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Post by zzzorf » July 27th, 2019, 7:05 am

Movie: Finding Neverland (2004)
Recommender: Bethany Megill
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: I have owned this movie for years and have meant to watch it many times over that time, just never got round to it till now. First things first, it is so easy to forget that Johnny Depp can act, he plays the same over the top character all the time that performances like this are so few and far between.
The movie seemed to intertwine what I do believe to be the fantasy world that a writer lives in mixed with the real world. The imagination needed to think things up and make them seem real. Definitely a highlight of the film along with the acting.
Overall though I was always left wanting more and a lot seemed to be left out of the story. Still I'm glad I finally got to watch this movie.

Rating: 6/10
Flickchart entry: > Schindler's List (1993)
< The Black Balloon (2008)
< Son of a Gun (2014)
> The Wall (2017)
< Before I Go to Sleep (2014)
< Category 7: The End of the World (2005)
< Shrek the Third (2007)
< Spice World (1997)
> Air Bud: Golden Receiver (1998)
1682/3862
Score: 56%
Round Ranking: 2/6

Recommendation Ranking: 75/171
Director Ranking: Marc Forster - No rank, first movie rated

Flickchart Stats
Director:
Marc Forster - 2/3
Actors: Julie Christie - 2/4
Radha Mitchell - 3/8
Dustin Hoffman - 6/15
Kate Winslet - 7/12
Johnny Depp - 5/25
Genres: Based-on-a-True-Story - 79/175
Based-on-Theatre - 24/51
Biopic - 52/113
Drama - 472/1080
Period Film - 146/378
Franchises: Academy Award Nominated - 166/359
Lionsgate Entertainment - 78/181
Miramax Films - 22/61
Year: 2004 - 44/103

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Post by zzzorf » July 27th, 2019, 11:35 am

Movie: Mystic River (2003)
Recommender: Patrick Gray
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: Well this was a well made piece of film. The acting was superb and you were engrossed in the world the movie created.
I had this mistaken for another movie so I actually had no idea for what I was in for going into this one. I had the basic idea, guys were friends as kids, something happened, they grew up and something happens again bringing them back together, you get the drill. But I mixed the circumstances up with another movie though I figured it out pretty early and sat back to enjoy the movie unfolding before me.
I do say though that the mystery did lose a little near the end as it finally become obvious, then again the movie wasn't going for a shock ending so it is forgiven.

Rating: 8/10
Flickchart entry: > Schindler's List (1993)
> The Black Balloon (2008)
< King of the Coral Sea (1954)
< Circle (2015)
> Thomas & Friends: Blue Mountain Mystery (2012)
< Good Morning, Vietnam (1987)
> Wicked Little Things (2006)
> Hook (1991)
> Herbie: Fully Loaded (2005)
> Resident Evil: Afterlife (2010)
> The Kid (1921)
787/3862
Score: 80%
Round Ranking: 2/7

Recommendation Ranking: 35/172
Director Ranking: Clint Eastwood - Moved from 437 to 332

Flickchart Stats
Director: Clint Eastwood - 2/10
Actors: Sean Penn - 2/8
Kevin Bacon - 6/10
Tim Robbins - 3/4
Laura Linney - 7/10
Tom Guiry - 1/2
Genres: Based-on-21st-Century-Literature - 21/77
Drama - 246/1081
Mystery - 54/244
Police Detective Film - 6/42
Psychological Thriller - 43/184
Thriller - 179/831
Urban Drama - 10/45
Franchises: Academy Award Nominated - 85/360
Village Roadshow Pictures - 13/62
Year: 2004 - 19/113

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Post by zzzorf » July 27th, 2019, 2:13 pm

Movie: The Ox-Bow Incident (1942)
Recommender: Travis Easton
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: For someone known to not have a good history with Westerns I seem to have been given quite a few in this original round of this challenge (I do know exactly who to blame for giving me that many Western DVD's that you could choose them in the first place) so I thought I would get the first one out of the way.
I doubt I will find one better throughout this challenge.
The beauty about this movie was it was just so simple. The Western setting was just that, it was a setting. You could have moved the whole movie to a completely different setting and the movie would have been the same. A great look at the "Mob Rules" effect.

Rating: 9/10
Flickchart entry: > Oldboy (2003)
> Patient Zero (2018)
> King of the Coral Sea (1954)
< The Lost World (1925)
> Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954)
> Mermaid (2007)
< Looking for Alibrandi (2000)
< Interstellar (2014)
303/3863
Score: 92%
Round Ranking: 1/8

Recommendation Ranking: 14/173
Director Ranking: William A. Wellman - No rank, first movie rated

Flickchart Stats
Director:
William A. Wellman - 1/1
Actors: Henry Fonda - 1/7
Dana Andrews - 2/5
Mary Beth Hughes - 1/1
Anthony Quinn - 1/5
William Eythe - 1/1
Genres: Message Movie - 7/26
Western - 7/74
Franchises: Academy Award Nominated - 39/361
National Film Registry - 26/182
Kino International - 5/34
1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die - 44/359
Year: 1943 - 1/6

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Post by zzzorf » July 28th, 2019, 12:39 pm

Movie: Shoot 'Em Up (2007)
Recommender: Jandy Hardesty
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: Well this was a fun ride. I was told to take this in the vein of the over the top near-parody that it is but I don't think I needed the heads up, it was pretty obvious from the beginning what this movie was going for and I enjoyed every minute of it.
Over the top was an understatement, this movie was out there and you couldn't help but shake your head and laugh at some of the goings on. Why me and my wife were even having a little game to point out when the baby turned into a doll (I really had to laugh in the one scene when it was an actual doll because of this)

Rating: 8/10
Flickchart entry: > Antichrist (2009)
> Inside Out (2015)
< The Mummy (1999)
< The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
> Bridge to Terabithia (2007)
> A Haunted House (2013)
> The Invasion (2007)
< Jurassic World (2015)
< Rabbit-Proof Fence (2002)
> The Jazz Singer (1927)
< Summertime (2015)
< Your Name (2016)
752/3867
Score: 81%
Round Ranking: 3/10

Recommendation Ranking: 38/177
Director Ranking: Michael Davis - No rank, first movie rated

Flickchart Stats
Director:
Michael Davis - 1/1
Actors: Clive Owen - 1/5
Paul Giamatti - 4/11
Stephen McHattie - 1/5
Greg Bryk - 1/1
Monica Bellucci - 1/4
Genres: Action - 182/815
Action Thriller - 81/347
Thriller - 173/832
Franchises: New Line Cinema - 27/97
Year: 2007 - 18/126

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Post by zzzorf » July 31st, 2019, 1:06 pm

Movie: A Fistful of Dollars (1964)
Recommender: Rob Tabor
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: It was a gutsy move giving me A Fistful of Dollars considering its loose sequel The Good, The Bad and The Ugly did so bad for me. In fact Spaghetti Westerns in general seem to not be my thing (granted I have only seen 3 before this one). They seem to be everything I hate about westerns all wrapped up in one package.
As to the movie itself, well it didn't take long for me to work out the movies resemblance to Yojimbo, a movie I had only watched in the last few months for my first personal challenge. I think pre-knowing the story helped me along here as I was able to switch out at times but follow along with the story reasonably well.
While definitely better than The Good, the Bad and the Ugly it still has a long way to go to win me over with this genre.

Rating: 4/10
Flickchart entry: < Oldboy (2003)
> Man on the Moon (1999)
< 36 Fillette (1988)
> The Usual Suspects (1995)
< Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Dog Days (2012)
< The Secret Garden (1993)
< WALL·E (2008)
< A Perfect Murder (1998)
< The Search for Santa Paws (2010)
> The Jazz Singer (1927)
< Summertime (2015)
< Your Name (2016)
2664/3873
Score: 31%
Round Ranking: 8/11

Recommendation Ranking: 127/178
Director Ranking: Sergio Leone - Moved from 525 to 511

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Director:
Sergio Leone - 1/3
Actors: Clint Eastwood - 3/7
Marianne Koch - 1/1
Wolfgang Lukschy - 1/1
Gian Maria Volontè - 1/1
Mario Brega - 1/1
Genres: Action - 589/819
Foreign Language Film - 194/296
Outlaw - 10/14
Spaghetti Western - 2/4
Western - 52/75
Franchises: Quentin Tarantino's Cinematic Influences - 27/38
United Artists - 45/78
Year: 1964 - 4/11

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Post by zzzorf » August 3rd, 2019, 7:44 am

Movie: Tropic Thunder (2008)
Recommender: Ben Lott
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: This has always been a movie I actively avoided watching, it always seemed the wrong type of ridiculous for me, an issue with just about any Ben Stiller movie. Granted though when I do eventually get around to watching them I do find myself enjoying it a little bit more than I expected but I still fail to fall in love with them. The same happened here.
I loved that opening action scene, but I have to ask how could they do that one long shot with all those angles when the cameras (those taping the fake movie not the real one) can never be seen?
I did find myself laughing at times but there was a lot that just didn't that funny which was the point of the movie I guess. So yeah I liked it better than I thought but not as much as most others.
Oh and I had no idea Tom Cruise was in this to the end credits, how stupid am I?

Rating: 5/10
Flickchart entry: < Oldboy (2003)
> Man on the Moon (1999)
< Dredd (2012)
> A Fistful of Dollars (1964)
< Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Dog Days (2012)
> The Secret Garden (1993)
< Sara Dane (1982)
> A Little Princess (1995)
> Desperado (1995)
< Halloween: Resurrection (2002)
> The Phantom (1996)
> Warrior (2011)
2578/3874
Score: 33%
Round Ranking: 6/12

Recommendation Ranking: 125/179
Director Ranking: Ben Stiller - No rank, first movie rated

Flickchart Stats
Director:
Ben Stiller - 1/2
Actors: Ben Stiller - 8/11
Robert Downey Jr. - 12/15
Jack Black - 11/16
Tom Cruise - 19/24
Matthew McConaughey - 11/14
Genres: Action Comedy - 83/119
Action - 569/820
Adventure Comedy - 119/186
Adventure - 479/731
Comedy - 640/914
Jungle Film - 27/38
Media Satire - 10/14
Satire - 51/84
Showbiz Comedy - 16/21
War Adventure - 11/23
War - 43/87
Franchises: DreamWorks SKG - 42/61
Year: 2008 - 63/102

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Post by zzzorf » August 3rd, 2019, 1:03 pm

Movie: Funny Girl (1968)
Recommender: Elisabeth Miller
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: A few weeks ago I had never seen a Barbara Streisand film and now thanks to these personal challenges I have seen two of her biggest. While I didn't enjoy this one as much as I did What's Up, Doc? I can now safely say I get what all the fuss is about Miss Streisand, she truly is a talent.
I didn't realise this was a true story going into it but found out as I did some research as the movie progressed. I can't say I'm familiar with the real Fanny Price but that has never hurt me enjoying a true story and it didn't here.
I think in the end my main trouble with the movie was the musical aspect. I'm very hit and miss with musicals, a lot of the time if I am really into the story than the singing doesn't faze me whereas this time I wasn't as truly invested in the story so I didn't enjoy the singing as much, probably didn't help that there wasn't too much variety in the singers as Streisand had all the songs with Sherif only doing one number.

Rating: 6/10
Flickchart entry: > Oldboy (2003)
< Coco (2017)
< Surf's Up 2: WaveMania (2017)
< The Eye (2008)
> Dr. Dolittle 2 (2001)
(after multiple attempts this is the furthest I can get)
1818/3878
Score: 53%
Round Ranking: 7/13

Recommendation Ranking:
84/180
Director Ranking: William Wyler - Moved from 31 to 32

Flickchart Stats
Director:
William Wyler - 3/4
Actors: Barbra Streisand - 2/2
Omar Sharif - 1/2
Kay Medford - 1/1
Anne Francis - 2/2
Walter Pidgeon - 2/3
Genres: Based-on-a-True-Story - 85/177
Based-on-Theatre - 27/52
Biopic - 56/115
Comedy - 440/916
Musical Comedy - 29/48
Musical - 84/189
Franchises: Academy Award Nominated - 186/393
Year: 1968 - 9/16

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Post by zzzorf » August 4th, 2019, 1:56 pm

Movie: Pygmalion (1938)
Recommender: Hannah Keefer
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: I'm sorry but no matter how hard I tried I just struggled to find anything I liked about this movie. The speech patterns were so off putting, I know that was the purpose of the movie, that the patterns of all the characters were unique but there has to be a limit on how they are done and this seemed to cross it.
As to the characters themselves I really found it hard to find any redeemable qualities about them, especially the professor, which took me further out of the movie.
I had high hopes for this one, I have watched and enjoyed so many more recent "make an outsider into a lady" story, but alas this got nowhere near any of them for me.

Rating: 3/10
Flickchart entry: < Zookeeper (2011)
< The Omega Man (1971)
< Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey (1991)
< Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007)
> You Were Never Really Here (2017)
< Pink Flamingos (1972)
> Santa Claus Conquers the Martians (1964)
> Red Christmas (2016)
> The Cowra Breakout (1984)
> Immortals (2011)
3704/3882
Score: 5%
Round Ranking: 14/14

Recommendation Ranking: 176/183
Director Ranking: Anthony Asquith - No rank, first movie rated
Leslie Howard - No rank, first movie rated

Flickchart Stats
Director:
Anthony Asquith, Leslie Howard - 1/1
Actors: Leslie Howard - 2/2
Wendy Hiller - 2/2
Wilfrid Lawson - 1/1
Marie Lohr - 1/1
Scott Sunderland - 1/1
Genres: Based-on-Theatre - 52/53
Comedy of Manners - 31/32
Comedy - 898/918
Period Film - 357/381
Romance - 347/362
Romantic Comedy - 100/105
Satire - 78/85
Franchises: Academy Award Nominated - 363/394
The Criterion Collection - 109/132
Year: 1938 - 4/4

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Post by zzzorf » August 5th, 2019, 1:41 pm

Movie: Support Your Local Sheriff! (1969)
Recommender: Chad Hoolihan
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: I haven't seen many Western Comedies but the ones I do remember seeing (Blazing Saddles, City Slickers 1 & 2, Back to the Future 3 and A Million Ways to Die in the West) I enjoyed, this movie was no different. While the jokes weren't as full-on as the other movies mentioned they were still great in their own right. I especially loved the idea of the jailhouse without bars and the red paint.
It's just a pity that I don't have time right now to watch the sequel which I also have on DVD but I will try to rectify that soon.

Rating: 7/10
Flickchart entry: > Antichrist (2009)
> Inside Out (2015)
< King of the Coral Sea (1954)
< The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
< The Band Concert (1935)
> The Bourne Identity (2002)
< Sherlock: A Study in Pink (2010)
< Mighty Joe Young (1998)
> Beauty and the Beast (1946)
< Secret of the Wings (2012)
> Opal Dream (2006)
< Paranormal Activity (2007)
901/3883
Score: 77%
Round Ranking: 6/15

Recommendation Ranking: 47/184
Director Ranking: Burt Kennedy - No rank, first movie rated

Flickchart Stats
Director:
Burt Kennedy - 1/1
Actors: James Garner - 2/3
Joan Hackett - 1/1
Walter Brennan - 1/3
Harry Morgan - 1/1
Jack Elam - 1/2
Genres: Comedy Western - 3/13
Comedy - 201/919
Parody/Spoof - 28/92
Western - 13/76
Franchises: Kino International - 8/35
United Artists - 20/79
Year: 1969 - 3/11

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Post by zzzorf » August 7th, 2019, 1:51 pm

Movie: John Carter (2012)
Recommender: Michael Reap
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: I have tried to watch this movie once before but the conditions weren't optimal (stuff like noise and distractions) so i barely made it anywhere into this film on that attempt. Also the fact that I heard it was a bit of a bomb (don't remember where that nonsense came from) meant that I wasn't looking forward to a 2nd attempt.
This time conditions were a bit more optimal. There was no noise interfering and distractions were a minimum, therefore I was able to sit back and ultimately enjoy the movie.
I can remember my dad having the John Carter books in his collection but I never got around to reading them like I wanted to, something I know regret doing. This was an imaginative story that would have been great to read in its literary form first. If I ever get back into reading again I definitely will need to keep this series in mind.

Rating: 7/10
Flickchart entry: > Zookeeper (2011)
< Inside Out (2015)
< Battle Royale (2000)
> Lost Paradise (2012)
< The Hitman's Bodyguard (2017)
> Guys and Dolls (1955)
> Safe House (2012)
< Piranha (1978)
< 12 Years a Slave (2013)
> Anaconda (1997)
> The Gambler (1980)
> The Family Man (2000)
1601/3885
Score: 59%
Round Ranking: 7/16

Recommendation Ranking: 79/185
Director Ranking: Andrew Stanton - Moved from 61 to 39

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Director:
Andrew Stanton - 2/3
Actors: Taylor Kitsch - 1/3
Lynn Collins - 2/2
Willem Dafoe - 7/20
Dominic West - 4/7
Mark Strong - 5/13
Genres: Action - 371/825
Adventure - 303/735
Based-on-20th-Century-Literature - 141/293
Sci-Fi Action - 156/292
Science Fiction - 258/555
Franchises: Walt Disney Pictures - 96/211
Year: 2012 - 65/142

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Post by zzzorf » August 11th, 2019, 12:48 pm

Movie: Road to Perdition (2002)
Recommender: Nathan Treadway
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: After 2 days of watching Superhero movies (majorly DC), because that was what my wife was in the mood for, I was ready for something different so I used the loophole that this was based on a DC Comic (well technically a Graphic Novel but you get the drift) to get it in the DVD player and it was easily the best choice I made all weekend.
It was a ballsy move on my part, 1. we had been enjoying those Superhero movies and of course this was nothing like them and 2. Gangster movies are another genre I struggle with.
I needn't have worried as this was fair from your typical gangster film and was more just a revenge story with feeling set in the time of the gangsters. Add to that you had Tom Hanks acting like only he can and a greatly shot movie and you had a winner in my books.

Rating: 8/10
Flickchart entry: > Antichrist (2009)
> Inside Out (2015)
< The Mummy (1999)
< The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
> Beasts of No Nation (2015)
> A Haunted House (2013)
> The Simpsons Movie (2007)
< Jurassic World (2015)
> Joy Ride (2001)
751/3892
Score: 81%
Round Ranking: 3/17

Recommendation Ranking: 39/186
Director Ranking: Sam Mendes - Entered at 277

Flickchart Stats
Director:
Sam Mendes - 1/2
Actors: Tom Hanks - 5/25
Paul Newman - 3/9
Jude Law - 1/14
Stanley Tucci - 6/13
Tyler Hoechlin - 1/2
Genres: Based-on-Comics - 46/206
Crime Drama - 18/119
Crime - 67/355
Drama - 229/1086
Gangster Film - 2/23
Hitman / Assassin Film - 3/36
Period Film - 58/382
Franchises: DC Comics - 9/62
Academy Award Nominated - 85/396
DreamWorks SKG - 9/62
Year: 2002 - 24/101

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Post by zzzorf » August 11th, 2019, 3:04 pm

Movie: Wall Street (1987)
Recommender: Maxwelldeux
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: I'd be lying if I said I could understand much of what really went on in this movie as my understanding of the stock market is very minimal and I have no idea what the hell they really do on Wall Street.
But that is the beauty of this film, you don't really need to know much about the stock market to enjoy it. What I just watched was a movie directed by one of the best containing some of the best actors of the time. That pretty much sums up the movie. I didn't need to know what they were talking about because I just knew what they were doing was either right or wrong and I could just enjoy the story unfolding in front of me without having to think to hard about it. What more could I ask?

Rating: 7/10
Flickchart entry: > Zookeeper (2011)
< Tomb Raider (2018)
> Battle Royale (2000)
> Thomas & Friends: King of the Railway (2013)
> Revolting Rhymes Part One (2016)
> There's Something About Mary (1998)
> Shrek in the Swamp Karaoke Dance Party (2001)
> Gone (2012)
< Madame DuBarry (1919)
> Venom (2018)
> Lassie Come Home (1943)
982/3894
Score: 75%
Round Ranking: 8/18

Recommendation Ranking: 54/187
Director Ranking: Oliver Stone - Moved from 509 to 442

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Director:
Oliver Stone - 1/3
Actors: Michael Douglas - 3/10
Charlie Sheen - 1/7
Daryl Hannah - 3/9
James Karen - 1/3
Martin Sheen - 4/7
Genres: Drama - 298/1087
Urban Drama - 12/46
Franchises: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die - 98/360
Year: 1987 - 17/43

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Post by maxwelldeux » August 11th, 2019, 6:53 pm

Yay! Glad you enjoyed it - it's a cultural milestone, and one that a lot of other media references.

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Post by zzzorf » August 15th, 2019, 2:30 pm

Movie: Tombstone (1993)
Recommender: Ben Shoemaker
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: Just how many Wyatt Earp movies are there? Of course he was a famous face of the real life Western Era so there are a lot and I have real trouble keeping straight which ones I've seen. I was always unsure if I had seen this one but I think I was getting it mixed up with Wyatt Earp (1994) so I'm glad I never ranked it by mistake.
The movie didn't start out very well for me. A western needs to grab me pretty quick or my interest is gone. the 1st act left me not looking forward to the rest of the movie and quite likely a low ranking. I soldiered on though and I'm glad I did because the movie did pick up. I won't say I was completely won over but I did find myself enjoying it a touch. I think in the long run it is the story that I'm not that interested in and no matter how many different adaptions I've seen I doubt it will change much.

Rating:5/10
Flickchart entry: < Zookeeper (2011)
> The Green Hornet (2006)
> How to Train Your Dragon (2010)
< Walk the Line (2005)
< Khumba (2013)
< Snow Dogs (2002)
< Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! (1965)
> Charming (2018)
< Theodore Rex (1995)
< Midnight Run (1988)
> Clair Obscur (2016)
< The Detective (1968)
2417/3896
Score: 38%
Round Ranking: 13/19

Recommendation Ranking: 127/188
Director Ranking: George P. Cosmatos - Entered at 370

Flickchart Stats
Director:
George P. Cosmatos - 2/2
Actors: Kurt Russell - 11/16
Val Kilmer - 9/12
Sam Elliott - 3/5
Powers Boothe - 2/2
Michael Biehn - 5/5
Genres: Revisionist Western - 10/24
Western - 46/77
Franchises: N/A
Year: 1993 - 42/63

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Post by zzzorf » August 16th, 2019, 8:11 am

UPDATE

So after watching Tombstone I have reached the half point of the seeding round movies (unless we get more participants joining between now and the end of the round as I will not stop taking new participants until the end of the round).

So after 19 movies Travis and Stephen have the poll position while Hannah and Mara hold the bottom two spots. With us having 38 competitors at the moment this would mean that Hannah and my daughter would be the two unlucky ones not to get a starting spot in the challenge proper.

With eliminations in the main rounds set at 4 we are set to have 9 rounds meaning I will watch at least 180 movies (forgetting those I watched in the seeding round). If I get two more competitors it will then become 10 rounds and at least 220 movies. Considering my first challenge only had me watch 124 movies total this is a big jump in movies and possibly making it a 2 year challenge. While I am up for the challenge I am willing to shorten it for everyone elses benefit and raising the round eliminations to 5. Under the current participation level that would mean 7 rounds and 140 movies and if I can get to 40 than another round and 40 extra movies would be added. Would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this.

I would tell you all to start thinking ahead to what movies you will recommend me in the next round but since you won't know which random prompt you will receive it is a bit awkward. I am so looking forward to this fulling kicking into gear after the end of these seeding movies are done.

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Post by zzzorf » August 16th, 2019, 8:15 am

iCMforum users: I'm not sure if anyone other than Maxwell is following along with the proceedings in this thread. If anyone is than thankyou and don't be afraid to throw some thoughts to what I have been reviewing back at me. Also if you think you can do better at recommending movies to me to watch than the current participants I would love to have you join in.

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Post by maxwelldeux » August 16th, 2019, 8:25 am

It's a little hard not being on FB to see everything, but I'm enjoying following this thread. Kinda excited to see where the next round goes, now that I have a better idea of how the event will progress.

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Post by zzzorf » August 16th, 2019, 8:47 am

maxwelldeux wrote:
August 16th, 2019, 8:25 am
It's a little hard not being on FB to see everything, but I'm enjoying following this thread. Kinda excited to see where the next round goes, now that I have a better idea of how the event will progress.
Not much is happening over there, just the odd comment here and there other than the person who recommended each movie. that's why I did the extra post above to just the users here to try to get some discussion brewing on here so it's not just me posting results the whole way through.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » August 16th, 2019, 9:48 am

Well, I'd comment on the FB page, you've just done a pretty good job at either watching ones I've not seen, or ones I don't really care enough about to comment. ;) It's not like I'm not following along. (I am, and I do read your reviews..)

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Post by zzzorf » August 16th, 2019, 12:17 pm

Nathan Treadway wrote:
August 16th, 2019, 9:48 am
Well, I'd comment on the FB page, you've just done a pretty good job at either watching ones I've not seen, or ones I don't really care enough about to comment. ;) It's not like I'm not following along. (I am, and I do read your reviews..)
Well it's not exactly my fault I'm watching those, it was what I was told to watch by others after all.

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Post by zzzorf » August 18th, 2019, 12:04 pm

Movie: Fear (1996)
Recommender: Greg Dorr
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: I often forget Reese Witherspoon started off as a cute teen actress with all she has accomplished in her adult life, I don't however remember Mark Wahlberg being so young (outside his Marky Mark run that is). Seeing these two as the leads, even so early in their careers, had me really looking forward to this when I put the DVD in. While the acting wasn't as good as it would become in the later years as to be expected they did not disappoint me.
As to the story it was one that was used a lot in the 90's (and I even have another still yet to watch in this challenge) that didn't harm it to much. Yes it wasn't as good as some of the others but it still held its ground and did what it set out to do.
In the end this was a good watch that saw two of todays big stars in their early days.

Rating: 7/10
Flickchart entry: > Little Miss Sunshine (2006)
< Ladybug Ladybug (1963)
< Cujo (1983)
< Fast and Furious (2009)
< The Haunting of Hill House (2018)
> The Help (2011)
< Return to Neverland (2002)
> Friday the 13th Part III (1982)
> Minions (2015)
> The Hole (2001)
> Space Buddies (2009)
1862/3903
Score: 52%
Round Ranking: 12/20

Recommendation Ranking: 91/190
Director Ranking: James Foley - Moved from 144 to 103

Flickchart Stats
Director:
James Foley - 4/4
Actors: Mark Wahlberg - 11/21
Reese Witherspoon - 7/14
William Peterson - 1/1
Amy Brenneman - 3/4
Alyssa Milano - 2/3
Genres: Home Invasion Film - 12/21
Psychological Thriller - 102/185
Teen Movie - 86/160
Thriller - 414/836
Franchises: N/A
Year: 1998 - 30/66

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Post by zzzorf » August 19th, 2019, 11:59 am

Movie: Open Range (2003)
Recommender: Jeff McCullough
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: One of my major problems with most westerns is that they are just too over the top with the whole rootin tootin cowboy gimmick that the whole product fails for me. That is why when I get a movie like this where everyone just seems like a normal person that I am able to enjoy what i before me.
The story was set up nicely giving us a reason why the later gunplay was to go down. Yeah the end fight was a slight let down but that was just a minor issue as I had enjoyed the ride to get there.
There were other issues such as the romance angle which seemed like an afterthought but in the end it was a pretty good go at the genre.

Rating: 7/10
Flickchart entry: < Little Miss Sunshine (2006)
> The Green Hornet (2006)
> Killer Elite (2011)
< Walk the Line (2005)
> Bootmen (2000)
> Scarecrow Gone Wild (2004)
> Open Water 2: Adrift (2006)
> The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 1 (2011)
> Felix Turns the Tide (1922)
> Anacondas: The Hunt for the Blood Orchid (2004)
> Air Bud: World Pup (2000)
2198/3905
Score: 44%
Round Ranking: 14/21

Recommendation Ranking: 126/191
Director Ranking: Kevin Costner - No rank, first movie rated

Flickchart Stats
Director:
Kevin Costner - 2/2
Actors: Robert Duvall - 7/14
Kevin Costner - 6/10
Annette Bening - 2/3
Michael Gambon - 4/5
Michael Jeter - 2/4
Genres: Romance - 222/363
Traditional Western - 8/9
Western - 44/79
Franchises: Touchstone Pictures - 49/67
Year: 2003 - 56/115

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Post by zzzorf » August 20th, 2019, 9:54 am

Movie: Fury (2014)
Recommender: Luke Winston
Round: Seeding
Prompt: DVD Collection

Review: Just like the Westerns I have watched for this challenge War movies are just as problemed for me, if not even more problematic (IMDb has it ranked as my worst genre for a reason). While I can enjoy War movies they normally are movies where the war is just the setting for a regular story. I always find that the ones that are solely based around war, I mean right in the thick of things, are always a very hard watch for me and very rarely do I find much to enjoy in them.
Fury is definitely based right in the thick of things, what else can I say?

Rating: 4/10
Flickchart entry: < Zookeeper (2011)
< The Green Hornet (2006)
< A Wrinkle in Time (2018)
< Sometimes They Come Back (1991)
> Program (2003)
> The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)
< Justice League: The New Frontier (2008)
< Cannibal Holocaust (1980)
< Wild Strawberries (1957)
> Blade Runner 2049 (2017)
> Melancholia (2011)
3686/3907
Score: 6%
Round Ranking: 21/22

Recommendation Ranking: 183/192
Director Ranking: David Ayer - Moved from 445 to 444

Flickchart Stats
Director:
David Ayer - 3/4
Actors: Brad Pitt - 16/20
Shia LaBeouf - 10/10
Logan Lerman - 7/7
Michael Peña - 5/6
Jon Bernthal - 5/5
Genres: Action - 796/836
Combat Films - 15/17
Drama - 999/1092
Period Film - 350/383
War - 74/88
War Drama - 51/59
Franchises: N/A
Year: 2014 - 144/147

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