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Critics Challenge (November 2017)

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Post by tourdesb » October 28th, 2017, 10:20 am

Critics Challenge
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Goal:
Watch as many movies as you can that are considered great by our good friends the Critics. If you are in doubt whether a movie counts or not, just ask.

Rules:
- A feature film (Anything over 40 minutes) counts as one entry.
- A total of 60 minutes of short films count as one entry.
- For Mini-Series/TV series (40 minute episodes or longer) each episode counts as an entry.
- Otherwise, the usual 40/60 rule applies
- Rewatches allowed.

Challenge runs from 1 November 2017 to 30 November 2017.

Official lists:
100 Must-See Films Of The 20th Century
1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die
101 War Movies You Must See Before You Die
Action! The Action Movie A-Z
Amos Vogel's Film as a Subversive Art
BBC's 100 greatest films of the 21st Century
BFI Flare's Best LGBT Films of All Time
Film Comedy
François Truffaut's The Films of My Life
Halliwell's Top 1000: The Ultimate Movie Countdown
Have You Seen? A Personal Introduction to 1,000 Films
Jonathan Rosenbaum's Essential Films
Roger Ebert: the great movies
Silent but not Forgotten: The best silent films
The Best 1,000 Movies Ever Made
The Guardian's 1000 Films to See Before You Die
The Story of Film: An Odyssey
TimeOut's 1000 Films to Change Your Life

Unofficial lists:
Given the amount of movies on official lists, let's just focus on the 18 official lists

Participants:
jeroeno - 140
maxwelldeux - 96
albajos - 77
72allincallme - 69
weirdboy - 47
sol - 43
Simba63 - 42
hurluberlu - 41
nimimerkillinen - 29
tourdesb - 29
45MinuteZoom - 28
sebby - 24
Gorro - 23
Mate_cosido - 23
tommy_leazaq - 17
vortexsurfer - 17
cinephage - 12
tarr - 12
mathiasa - 11
VincentPrice - 9
jdidaco - 6
connordenney - 3
wowwee123 - 3
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#2

Post by albajos » October 28th, 2017, 11:17 am

So since it came up. Only single critics, or do lists from FIPRESCI (International Federation of Film Critics) count?

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Post by sortile9io » October 28th, 2017, 11:22 am

What about other unofficial lists by critics not included in the OP? For example: Dizionario dei capolavori del cinema.
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Post by jeroeno » October 28th, 2017, 11:52 am

Oh yeah I'm in.

My goals:
1. Complete 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die (3 movies)
2. Complete BBC's 100 greatest films of the 21st Century (3 movies)
3. Get rid of my backlog on all the lists on the critics tab (48 movies in total)
4. Have a lot of fun watching movies


Edit: Also Leonard Maltin's Classic Movie Guide features a lot of Noirs, just saying :lol:
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Post by tourdesb » October 28th, 2017, 12:49 pm

albajos on Oct 28 2017, 05:17:16 AM wrote:So since it came up. Only single critics, or do lists from FIPRESCI (International Federation of Film Critics) count?
Lists from FIPRESCI obviously count (I've already put one on the OP)
sortile9io on Oct 28 2017, 05:22:54 AM wrote:What about other unofficial lists by critics not included in the OP? For example: Dizionario dei capolavori del cinema.
The more the merrier. I've just selected a few, but other lists are welcome.
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Post by weirdboy » October 28th, 2017, 1:49 pm

How about meta-lists like TSPDT and the like?

I will undoubtedly be watching movies that fit this category, so I suppose I'm in, but I'm also a bit confused by the requirements, since I'd think just about any official check has appeared on a critic's list at some point.
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Post by weirdboy » October 28th, 2017, 3:05 pm

albajos on Oct 28 2017, 08:36:39 AM wrote:https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/fran ... f+my+life/ - not a critic
He was a well known critic before becoming a director. He wrote for Cahiers du Cinema among other publications.

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Post by 72allinncallme » October 28th, 2017, 3:20 pm

The most open challenge. Every movie counts :circle:

Critics are not a protected title.

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Post by albajos » October 28th, 2017, 3:22 pm

Professional critics

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Post by maxwelldeux » October 28th, 2017, 5:42 pm

By my count, there have been three official Critics challenges:

- Rosenbaum Challenge (October 2015)
- Critics List Challenge (December 2014)
- Critics List Challenge (April 2012)

So here is the leaderboard (details here) for those challenges. Our fearless host tops the list!
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RankParticipantTotal Score# Challenges Competed InTotal Number of Films Watched for Official ChallengesAverage Rank in ChallengesNumber of Challenge Wins
1 tourdesb 27 2 108 2.50 0
2 Cippenham 22 3 29 9.00 0
3 cinephage 19.5 2 24 7.00 0
4 klaus78 17 1 48 1.00 1
5 flavo5000 16 1 45 2.00 0
6 Wise Jake 15 1 37 3.00 0
6 mondovertigo 15 1 55 1.00 1
6 jeroeno 15 1 96 1.00 1
9 ormazd 14 1 78 2.00 0
9 Lonewolf2003 14 1 27 4.00 0
11 Apu 13 1 20 3.00 0
11 allisoncm 13 3 24 12.33 0
11 LarsC 13 1 26 5.00 0
14 perceval 12 1 14 4.00 0
14 sushantv10 12 1 55 4.00 0
14 drbop 12 1 19 6.00 0
17 WalterNeff 11 1 43 5.00 0
18 metaller 10.5 1 15 7.00 0
18 frbrown 10.5 1 11 5.00 0
18 Gershwin 10.5 1 15 7.00 0
21 jgwr 10 1 27 6.00 0
22 3eyes 9.5 2 7 11.00 0
23 wuzzawuzz 9 1 26 7.00 0
24 45MinuteZoom 8 1 6 8.00 0
25 connordenney 7 1 4 9.00 0
25 rohit 7 1 15 9.00 0
25 Mochard 7 1 10 11.00 0
28 Gregmnewman 6 1 14 10.00 0
29 darkflame 5 1 4 12.00 0
30 jonas2k 4.5 1 13 11.00 0
30 Buksemannen 4.5 1 3 10.00 0
30 redcard29 4.5 1 13 11.00 0
30 lampadatriste 4.5 1 3 10.00 0
30 ororama 4.5 1 3 10.00 0
35 watchayakan 2.5 1 2 15.00 0
35 ryebass 2.5 1 2 15.00 0
37 VincentPrice 2 1 8 14.00 0
38 George Bailey 1 1 4 15.00 0
38 te18 1 1 1 15.00 0
38 Daviddoes 1 1 1 17.00 0

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Post by VincentPrice » October 28th, 2017, 9:15 pm

In but probably won't see a whole lot.

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Post by albajos » November 1st, 2017, 12:02 pm

The Golden Globes are arranged and voted on by Hollywood Foreign Press Association, so does that award count?

Also, Rottentomatoes should count as the top list is based on professional reviews only
And the Sight & Sound lists. All based on film journalists.
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Post by sol » November 1st, 2017, 12:15 pm

It starts!

1. The Detective (1968) Pauline Kael #589

The jazzy music score is a nice moody touch and certain aspects are highly memorable (a cop bragging about using German concentration camp techniques on a suspect) but overall, the imbalance of talk talk talk versus action is hard to ignore. Still, this is of interest due to the prominence of homosexuality in the plot and some of the plot turns towards the end are pretty sad in terms of how hard it was to be out of the closet way back then.
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Post by albajos » November 1st, 2017, 1:07 pm

01. El secreto de sus ojos (2009)
Roger Ebert Top 10 of the Year 2010 #7
KNF Film of the Year 2010 #9 (The Kring van Nederlandse Filmjournalisten)
FIPRESCI Grand Prix 2010 #10
BBC's 100 greatest films of the 21st Century #91

02. White Heat (1949)
Ed Gonzalez Top 10 of the Year 1949 #3
Mike D'Angelo's highest rated movies #67
Halliwell #588
The Best 1,000 Movies Ever Made - unranked
Have You Seen? - unranked
Kenneth Turan's favorites - unranked
1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die - unranked
The Guardian's 1000 Films to See Before You Die - unranked

03. I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang (1932)
Ed Gonzalez Top 10 of the Year 1932 #10
Halliwell #593
Have You Seen? - unranked
Kenneth Turan's favorites - unranked
Leonard Maltin's 4 Star Movies - unranked
1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die - unranked
TimeOut's 1000 Films - unranked

04. Gun Crazy (1950)
Mike D'Angelo's highest rated movies #144
Have You Seen? - unranked
Jonathan Rosenbaum's Essential Films - unranked
100 Must-See Films Of The 20th Century - unranked
1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die - unranked
The Story of Film: An Odyssey - unranked
The Guardian's 1000 Films to See Before You Die - unranked
TimeOut's 1000 Films - unranked

!seen 4

New awards this month:
Gold (1/27): 2000s
Silver (1/51): Romance
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Post by sol » November 1st, 2017, 3:14 pm

Critic Movies Already Critiqued by SolShow
1. The Detective (1968) Pauline Kael #589
2. Father of the Bride (1950) Rosenbaum #303

While the nightmare sequence in the second half of the film was my favourite part of the movie, I massively preferred the first half of this comedy. Tracy's dry wit narration and talking to the camera stuff is great. Really liked his scruples over his daughter's beau; thing became a lot less interesting for me in the second half though as it all became about the money, money, money with Tracy morphing into Scrooge McDuck, complete with some cringe-worthy predictable gags (ripping the suit that he barely fits into and therefore having to spend $$$ on a new one). Anyway, I liked this overall, but as usual, not actually one of the five Best Pictures of the year.
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Post by nimimerkillinen » November 1st, 2017, 3:38 pm

1. Coal Miner's Daughter (Leonard Maltin's Must-See Movies 2011 - 365 reviews and recommendations) - liked it

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Post by VincentPrice » November 1st, 2017, 8:30 pm

1. The Last Gangster-1937: 7/10 (Leonard Maltin's Classic Movie Guide)
2. The Murder Man-1935: 8/10 (Leonard Maltin's Classic Movie Guide)
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Post by jeroeno » November 1st, 2017, 10:07 pm

01. Three Days of the Condor (1975) ****
02. Le Journal d'une Femme de Chambre (1964) ***1/2
03. The Big Sky (1962) ***
04. Alice's Restuarant (1969) ***
05. Anastasia (1956) ***1/2
06. Claudine (1974) ***1/2
07. Charley Varrick (1973) ****

All seven are from The Best 1,000 Movies Ever Made list. All in all a pretty decent start to the challenge with some memorable flicks. :thumbsup:

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Post by 72allinncallme » November 1st, 2017, 11:08 pm

1. Night and the City (1950) -Dictionary of Films from Jacques Lourcelles

2. Brute Force (19487) -5001 Nights at the Movies. Pauline Kael

3. The Naked City (1948) -New York Movies: The 100 Best Films Set in New York

4. Thieves’ Highway (1949) -Jonathan Rosenbaum's Essential Films

5. Killer’s Kiss (1955) -Guide for the Film Fanatic

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Post by sebby » November 1st, 2017, 11:13 pm

[font=courier]01. The Big Combo (1955) - 6.5/10
Critics List: Guardian

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Post by vortexsurfer » November 2nd, 2017, 5:33 am

I'm in. Went through a few of these lists and I've got a ton of unwatched stuff on them.

1. The Wizard of Oz (Victor Fleming, 1939) - 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die
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Post by mathiasa » November 2nd, 2017, 11:10 am

1 - Van Gogh (Pialat) - Very good 7.1/10 ( Andrew Sarris' Annual Top Ten Lists )
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Post by mathiasa » November 2nd, 2017, 11:15 am

2 - shockproof (Leonard Maltin's Classic Movie Guide)

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Post by mathiasa » November 2nd, 2017, 11:25 am

Does Nightmare on Elm Street 3 count? It‘s on 2 Tim Dirk lists.
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Post by tourdesb » November 2nd, 2017, 11:50 am

1. Kôshikei (1968, Nagisa Ôshima) - Jonathan Rosenbaum's Essential Films
2. Becket (1964, Peter Glenville) - The Guardian's 1000 Films to See Before You Die
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Post by sol » November 2nd, 2017, 1:42 pm

Critic Movies Already Critiqued by SolShow
1. The Detective (1968) Pauline Kael #589
2. Father of the Bride (1950) Rosenbaum #303
3. Last Action Hero (1993) Marshall Julius #234

Lots of fun. You haven't seen Shakespeare's Hamlet until you've seen it performed by Schwarzenegger in action star mode! I also loved all the parodying of all the OTT action movies out there with Schwarzenegger clearly having a ball sending himself up.
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Post by jdidaco » November 2nd, 2017, 3:33 pm

In. Thanks for hosting, tourdesb.

(This group (and what a group it was!) was selected from Jacques Lourcelles/MacMahonists & Mexican critics)

Two Pre-Code treats,

1. Quick Millions (Rowland Brown, 1931) 8.5/10
2. Topaze (Harry d’Abbadie d’Arrast, 1933) 8.5/10

Mexico’s Golden Age,

3. En la palma de tu mano (In the Palm of Your Hand, Roberto Gavaldón, 1951) 9/10
4. La red (Rossana, Emilio Fernández, 1953) 10/10

Riccardo Freda double-bill,

5. Beatrice Cenci (Castle of the Banned Lovers, Riccardo Freda, 1956) 10/10
6. Le sette spade del vendicatore (The Seventh Sword, Riccardo Freda, 1962) Nothing less than, 10/10

Riccardo Freda’s exquisite sense of movement, composition, color - a marriage behind bars, from 'Le sette spade del vendicatore' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH2CsDdG_K4 (l)
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Post by 45MinuteZoom » November 2nd, 2017, 4:07 pm

1. The Seventh Seal (Det sjunde inseglet, Ingmar Bergman, 1957) - Roger Ebert Great Movies

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Post by cinephage » November 2nd, 2017, 6:18 pm

Many crossovers with the noirvember challenge, but what can I say ? Critics love noir, and I agree with them...
But I will also try to watch non-noir films recommended by Jonathan Rosenbaum, Amos Vogel, Kim Newman, Halliwell, François Truffaut, Pauline Kael, and a few others... This is a good opportunity to watch some of the films I've been postponing for some time, which are on many official lists.

01. The Accused, by William Dieterle (1949) 7/10

-> #13 on Leonard Maltin's Classic Movie Guide

02. House of Games, by David Mamet (1987) 7,5/10

-> #88 on Roger Ebert: the great movies (Official List)

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Post by mathiasa » November 2nd, 2017, 6:30 pm

4 - Blindy Alley
#1 "Death on the Cheap - The Lost B Movies of Film Noir" by Arthur Lyons

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Post by maxwelldeux » November 2nd, 2017, 6:58 pm

Since this is a nice open challenge, I'll be able to make progress on a lot of my other ICM goals. But to start off...

1. The Big Sleep (1946)
2. The Fearless Vampire Killers (1967)
3. All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)

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Post by hurluberlu » November 2nd, 2017, 7:13 pm

1. Arabian Nights: Volume 2 - The Desolate One / As Mil e Uma Noites: Volume 2, O Desolado (Miguel Gomes, 2015) [Cahiers du cinéma - Yearly top 10s] 7+/10

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Post by albajos » November 2nd, 2017, 7:56 pm

05. The Hot Spot (1990)
Andrew Sarris Top 10 of the Year 1990 #7

To find the more obscure top 10s some of them are here: http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~ejohnson/critics/ (old html site)
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Roger Ebert Top 10 of the YearShow
2010: #7 El secreto de sus ojos
Ed Gonzalez Top 10 of the YearShow
1932: #10 I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang
1949: #3 White Heat
Andrew Sarris Top 10 of the YearShow
1990: #7 The Hot Spot
Mike D'Angelo's highest rated moviesShow
#67 White Heat
#144 Gun Crazy
Leonard Maltin's 4 Star MoviesShow
I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang
Jonathan RosenbaumShow
Gun Crazy
Kenneth Turan's favoritesShow
I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang, White Heat
The Best 1,000 Movies Ever MadeShow
White Heat
HalliwellShow
#588: White Heat
#593 I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang
Have You Seen?Show
Gun Crazy, I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang, White Heat
1001Show
Gun Crazy, I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang, White Heat
The GuardianShow
Gun Crazy, White Heat
TimeOutShow
Gun Crazy, I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang
FIPRESCI Grand PrixShow
2010: #10 El secreto de sus ojos
KNF Film of the YearShow
2010: #9 El secreto de sus ojos
BBC's 100 greatest films of the 21st CenturyShow
#91 El secreto de sus ojos
100 Must-See Films Of The 20th CenturyShow
Gun Crazy
!seen 5

New awards this month:
Gold (1/27): 2000s
Silver (1/51): Romance

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Post by mathiasa » November 2nd, 2017, 8:34 pm

5 - Bodyguard (1948)

"Death on the Cheap - The Lost B Movies of Film Noir" by Arthur Lyons
Ranking #105

1000 Noir Films
Ranking #398

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Post by jeroeno » November 2nd, 2017, 8:51 pm

All from The Best 1,000 Movies Ever Made:

08. Operation Crossbow (1965) ***1/2
09. Heartland (1979) ***1/2
10. The Personal History, Adventures, Experience, & Observation of David Copperfield the Younger (1935) **1/2
11. Oci ciornie (Dark Eyes) (1987) ***
12. Much Ado About Nothing (1993) ***1/2
13. Le beau mariage (A Good Marriage) (1982) ****
14. High Hopes (1988) ****

Another decent day, definitely ending on a positive note thanks to Eric Rohmer and Mike Leigh. I was also surprised by how much I liked Branagh's Much Ado About Nothing, no thanks to Keanu Reeves though. Man he sucks in that movie.

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Post by 72allinncallme » November 2nd, 2017, 10:21 pm

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1. Night and the City (1950) -Dictionary of Films from Jacques Lourcelles

2. Brute Force (19487) -5001 Nights at the Movies. Pauline Kael

3. The Naked City (1948) -New York Movies: The 100 Best Films Set in New York

4. Thieves’ Highway (1949) -Jonathan Rosenbaum's Essential Films

5. Killer’s Kiss (1955) -Guide for the Film Fanatic

6. Murder by Contract (1958) -Jonathan Rosenbaum's Essential Films

7. Ministry of Fear (1944) -Have You Seen? A Personal Introduction to 1,000 Film

8. The Sound of Fury (1950) -Jonathan Rosenbaum's Essential Films
6. Murder by Contract (1958) -Jonathan Rosenbaum's Essential Films

7. Ministry of Fear (1944) -Have You Seen? A Personal Introduction to 1,000 Film

8. The Sound of Fury (1950) -Jonathan Rosenbaum's Essential Films
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Post by sebby » November 2nd, 2017, 11:04 pm

[font=courier]02. The Hitch-Hiker (1953) - 7/10
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Post by mathiasa » November 2nd, 2017, 11:06 pm

6 - Lady in the Death House

"Death on the Cheap - The Lost B Movies of Film Noir" by Arthur Lyons
Ranking #16

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Post by vortexsurfer » November 3rd, 2017, 12:34 am

2. Zelig (Woody Allen, 1983) - Halliwell's Top 1000: The Ultimate Movie Countdown
3. The Wolf Man (George Waggner, 1941) - 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die
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1. The Wizard of Oz (Victor Fleming, 1939) - 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die
2. Zelig (Woody Allen, 1983) - Halliwell's Top 1000: The Ultimate Movie Countdown
3. The Wolf Man (George Waggner, 1941) - 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die

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