Welcome to the ICM Forum.

If you notice any issues please post in the Q&A thread. If the main forum isn't loading correctly, try clearing browser cache. There appears to be an issue with board emails, this should only impact registration or account recovery. If you encounter this issue, contact PeacefulAnarchy This might take a couple of days to fix.
Podcast: Talking Images (Episode 41 released November 15th: The ICMForum Film Festival: Main Slate & Highlights)
iCinema Magazine: WE ARE LIVE! (We just need more content)
ICMForum Film Festival: Mon Nov 15 - Dec 13
Polls: 1946 (Results), USA (Nov 28th), Sport (Nov 30th), Directors (Jan 3rd)
Challenges: Noir, War, Argentina/Brazil/Py/Uy
Managers Cup: QF Schedule, QFA: sacmersault vs filmbantha (Dec 12th)
About: Welcome All New Members, Terms of Use, Q&A

the 2009 project

Post Reply
User avatar
matthewscott8
Donator
Posts: 2471
Joined: May 13th, 2015, 6:00 am
Contact:

#321

Post by matthewscott8 »

Just compiled a list of films I reviewed on this thread for insertion into the original post, and it turns out I reviewed 83 so far, didn't think it was that many!
User avatar
Onderhond
Posts: 7891
Joined: December 23rd, 2012, 7:00 am
Contact:

#322

Post by Onderhond »

matthewscott8 wrote: November 15th, 2021, 10:43 am With the fantasy bits I admired the animation work, I just felt that the time the movie starts to major on those parts coincides with the start of my concerns about its politics, and the plot starts to get a bit ridiculous in terms of coincidences
Ridiculous plots are definitely an anime staple, so that's something that doesn't bother me as much. As for the politics, I should really watch the film again. I'm a bit surprised though as Hosoda is usually considered very mellow and not very political either.

Oh, and if you like the Japanese rural drama angle, a film like A Gentle Breeze in the Village comes well recommended (not 2009 though!)
User avatar
matthewscott8
Donator
Posts: 2471
Joined: May 13th, 2015, 6:00 am
Contact:

#323

Post by matthewscott8 »

Onderhond wrote: November 15th, 2021, 11:06 am
matthewscott8 wrote: November 15th, 2021, 10:43 am With the fantasy bits I admired the animation work, I just felt that the time the movie starts to major on those parts coincides with the start of my concerns about its politics, and the plot starts to get a bit ridiculous in terms of coincidences
Ridiculous plots are definitely an anime staple, so that's something that doesn't bother me as much. As for the politics, I should really watch the film again. I'm a bit surprised though as Hosoda is usually considered very mellow and not very political either.

Oh, and if you like the Japanese rural drama angle, a film like A Gentle Breeze in the Village comes well recommended (not 2009 though!)
There's a very thoughtful article about Hosoda's worldview on Cafe Marat, https://cafemarat.com/mamoru-hosoda-the ... -miyazaki/, written in 2015 so obviously missing references to newer movies. In it the author definitely picks up on Hosoda's conservatism
Hosoda's works obviously longs for the old Japan, and not only in a folklorical way: they also miss its values. So far, this conservatism is so deeply impregnated by melancholy that makes it politically unactive.
I just felt you can't have a song fondly remembering Zeroes and anti-American sentiments in a movie and not call it political. The idea that you have families of strong "breeding", who behind the scenes make everything tick, is also deeply worrying, although couched in saccharine sentiments about "granny". The author compares Hosoda to Miyazaki and finds Hosoda much more conservative. He raises the question of how does this fit with an energetic style, which is interesting.
User avatar
Onderhond
Posts: 7891
Joined: December 23rd, 2012, 7:00 am
Contact:

#324

Post by Onderhond »

Myeah, not sure if I agree with that reading (especially not Western readings of Asian material), but again, I should really rewatch his films for more concrete arguments.

One thing though: it's a bit strange to consider TGWLTT a core Hosoda project when it's really just a pretty straight-forward adaptation.
User avatar
matthewscott8
Donator
Posts: 2471
Joined: May 13th, 2015, 6:00 am
Contact:

#325

Post by matthewscott8 »

Image

The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus (2009 - Terry Gilliam)

A curious movie, it felt a lot like someone dusted off an escapist yarn of the 30s or 40s from the unused script pile. Doctor Parnassus is some sort of Lazarus type figure who has the ability to turn peoples' imaginations and internal struggles with good and evil into a real environment to put them in. The cast, particularly Plummer as Parnassus, don't seem to have the acting chops for the job, and the computer generated imagery generally feels tawdry. I found myself hankering for matte work. Implausibility, incoherence, and an unfamiliarity with the modern world seemed to abound. The manichaean predicaments seem out of step with a modern audience with no belief in absolutes or the supernatural. Even for myself, an old-fashioned absolutist, I did raise an eyebrow or two.

There was one random almost throwaway line in the script that caught my attention: "Aren't you running the risk to entrench the *need* for charity by increasingly institutionalizing it?", but though provocative it was also quite glib, you can't get a new malaria vaccine by relying on spontaneous kindness of strangers, you got to get together as an organized group.

I felt it could be better experienced as some sort of autobiographical cri de coeur, Gilliam as an old dreamweaver who finds himself broken, out of step, irrelevant and alone in the 21st century.
User avatar
matthewscott8
Donator
Posts: 2471
Joined: May 13th, 2015, 6:00 am
Contact:

#326

Post by matthewscott8 »

Image

L'affaire Farewell / Farewell (2009 - Christian Carion)

One of three notable films called Farewell from 2009, one of two about the spy codenamed Farewell, a key KGB officer who sits at the nexus of all incoming scientific intelligence. Farewell decides, for fairly obscure reasons, to compromise the entire Soviet covert intelligence network. Emir Kusturica acts well here, and maybe should have had a more notable acting career. The film is not particularly dramatic, nor visually appealing, the script has a bright spot where it produces an analogy to a piece of French poetry about wolves, but is quite bare. The main problem is that it's based on a true story, and sometimes the truth has its banalities.
User avatar
matthewscott8
Donator
Posts: 2471
Joined: May 13th, 2015, 6:00 am
Contact:

#327

Post by matthewscott8 »

Image

Whatever Works (2009 - Woody Allen)

I feel a bit like sticking my fingers down my throat. Luck is important in life (no shit), and grab whatever love you can (duh), the big messages of this film, which it makes in an unbearable and saccharine way. A very obviously English actor is given the character name Randy, a move as tone deaf as his performance and the lines he's given to read. I felt a curl of anger at the "there's someone for everyone" type of bullshit wishful thinking that characterises the movie. Even its forays into despair are juvenile and complacent.

I guess it's time for another long hiatus for "romantic comedy" and me.

Anyways, that watch means I've now watched all of the top 50 from the recent ICM poll viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5659
User avatar
matthewscott8
Donator
Posts: 2471
Joined: May 13th, 2015, 6:00 am
Contact:

#328

Post by matthewscott8 »

Image

Полторы комнаты, или Сентиментальное путешествие на родину / Poltory komnaty ili Sentimentalnoe puteshestvie na Rodinu / Room and a Half (2009 - Andrey Khrzhanovskiy)

So good I watched it twice in a row. Khrzhanovskiy's film biography of Joesph Brodsky is a privilege to watch, sentimental, intimate and full of wonderful surprises. Mostly live action but with some gorgeous animation climbing into bed from time to time.

Brodsky grows up and is nourished by St Petersburg but he is persecuted by Soviet anti-semitism and an official distrust of his love of western art. He is subject to internal exile, and then forced migration. The film focuses mostly on his family relations, the only child of two loving co-conspiratorial parents, and the roots of his artistic inspiration. Khrzhanovskiy must be his perfect fit as a biographer. If you wonder where you've heard Khrzhanovskiy's name before he was director of the famous short The Glass Harmonica, many years before Room and a Half.

It's a dense and rich movie, I had to do a fair bit of googling for context about Brodsky's work and various obscure (to Westerners) Russian references.
User avatar
Torgo
Posts: 4484
Joined: June 30th, 2011, 6:00 am
Location: Germany
Contact:

#329

Post by Torgo »

Soo .. are your Top 4 films of the year 2009, which you've seen more than 240 films from, all animated? :o
Cool!
User avatar
matthewscott8
Donator
Posts: 2471
Joined: May 13th, 2015, 6:00 am
Contact:

#330

Post by matthewscott8 »

Torgo wrote: November 25th, 2021, 12:42 am Soo .. are your Top 4 films of the year 2009, which you've seen more than 240 films from, all animated? :o
Cool!
Haha, you noticed I did a little rejig, it hadn't entered my mind that they were all animated until you mentioned it. So, yes! With the caveat that Room and a Half is only partially animated, however the animated sequences are very strong.
Post Reply