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Nordic-Benelux challenge

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Post by 3eyes » August 1st, 2016, 6:09 pm

Nordic / Benelux Challenge
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Goal: Watch as many movies from the Nordic countries as well as Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg.
Eligible countriesShow
Belgium
Denmark
Faroe Islands
Finland
Greenland
Iceland
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Norway
Sweden
Åland Islands
Note: includes Greenland


Rules:
- A feature film (Anything over 40 minutes) counts as one entry.
- A total of 60 minutes of short films count as one entry.
- For Mini-Series or tv shows (40 minute episodes or longer) each episode counts as an entry.
- For Mini-Series or tv shows with shorter episodes (25 minutes or so), the 60 minutes rule applies.
- Rewatches are welcome.


this is copied from July 2014 challenge. Please notify me of additional lists.
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Multiple-country lists:
UNESCO's Memory of the World: National Cinematic Heritage (official) - Denmark (189-203), Finland (244-258), Norway (511-525), Sweden (686-700)
CFB country polls - Denmark (chapter 6), Sweden (7), Norway (8), Netherlands (23), Belgium (24)
Historical Dictionary of Scandinavian Cinema
Nordic Movies on Official ICM lists
Kenji's A Scrumptious Scandinavian Smörgåsbord (personal list)
8 paduchi's How Scandinavian of Me: Maidanezi Mai Suedezi (personal list)

Belgium:
Belgian submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film
Democratic iCM users top 50 of Belgian Films
Kenji's Belgium (personal list)

Denmark:
Dansk Spillefilm Top 100
Danish submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film

Faroe Islands:
Kolar's Faroe Islands (personal list)

Finland:
Yle News' Best Finnish Films of All Time (official)
Helsingin Sanomat's 100 Greatest Finnish Films

Sakari Toiviainen's 100 Finnish Films

Iceland:
Icelandic Movies
Kolar's Iceland: Land of Fire and Ice (personal list)

Netherlands:
Dutch Film Festival Top 50 (2008) (official)
Dutch Film Festival Top 50 (1999)
Dutch submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film
Frank W's Essential Dutch Cinema (personal list)

Norway:
Rushprint's The best Norwegian films of all time
Natt & Dag's Greatest Norwegian Films of All Time
100 Norwegian Films You Must See
Norwegian films in official lists
Lars Ole Kristiansen's The Best of New Norwegian Cinema (personal list)

Sweden:
FLM's Best Swedish Films of All Time (official)
Nöjesguiden's Top 25 Swedish Films

Swedish submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film
Moira Sullivan's ....And Now a Word about Swedish Cinema (personal list)
Kolar's Swedish Cinema: The Silent Era (personal list)


Award listsShow
Belgium: Belgian Film Awards (official)
Denmark: Bodil Award Winners For Best Danish Film (official)
Finland: Jussi Awards
Iceland: Edda Award Best Film (Biomynd arsins)
Netherlands: Nederlands Film Festival - Gouden Kalf (official)
Norway: Amanda Award - Best Film (official)
Sweden: Guldbagge Award (official)
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » August 1st, 2016, 6:15 pm

I'm in got some bronzes to get.

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Post by albajos » August 1st, 2016, 6:26 pm

I think there have been additions in the UNESCO list? Norway is 511-525 now for example

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Post by cinephage » August 1st, 2016, 6:42 pm

I will modestly participate.

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Post by ChrisReynolds » August 1st, 2016, 6:55 pm

I will participate. My goals are:

Get ranked on Amanda Awards
Get ranked on DIFF's The 100 Greatest Arab Films (two are Nordic co-productions)
Watch all remaining Nordic films on TSZDT

That covers 9 films (counting the second season of Riget as 4 films).

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Post by Knaldskalle » August 1st, 2016, 8:00 pm

Why not. I found a handful of old Danish movies on Youtube the other day.
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Post by albajos » August 1st, 2016, 8:16 pm

1. Arven (Anja Breien, 1979) Norway, In Competition at Cannes, no official toplists

There are 59 Norwegian movies in Toplists, but there are only 3 I haven't seen, and one of them that can't be seen outside of film cllubs. So I'm only sure that I will see Fritt Vilt, Fritt Vilt II and Louder Than Bombs (nominated for best film - Amanda, I've seen the two others) this challlenge.

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Post by 3eyes » August 1st, 2016, 9:02 pm

Knaldskalle on Aug 1 2016, 02:00:16 PM wrote:Why not. I found a handful of old Danish movies on Youtube the other day.
Have you seen Skyggen af Emma? It's on youtube.
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Post by 3eyes » August 2nd, 2016, 3:01 am

1. Præsidenten /The president (Den 1919)
The "president" is the presiding (chief) judge in a smallish town.
The sins of the fathers get visited upon the children (and especially their women) unto the third generation; redemption involves going against prevailing social norms. Dreyer's debut.
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Post by allisoncm » August 2nd, 2016, 5:55 am

I will watch some.

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Post by Knaldskalle » August 2nd, 2016, 6:29 am

3eyes on Aug 1 2016, 03:02:32 PM wrote:
Knaldskalle on Aug 1 2016, 02:00:16 PM wrote:Why not. I found a handful of old Danish movies on Youtube the other day.
Have you seen Skyggen af Emma? It's on youtube.
I have it on a hard drive somewhere, but I haven't gotten around to seeing it yet.
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Post by Perception de Ambiguity » August 2nd, 2016, 8:33 am

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Post by albajos » August 2nd, 2016, 9:34 am

2. Detektiv Downs (Bård Breien, 2013) Norway
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Post by allisoncm » August 2nd, 2016, 3:25 pm

It seems the official Swedish and Finnish links that changed (probably because they have become official since the last challenge).

FLM/Swedish: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/flms ... +all+time/
Finnish: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/yle+ ... +all+time/
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Post by 3eyes » August 2nd, 2016, 5:38 pm

Thanks, Allison.
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Post by allisoncm » August 2nd, 2016, 8:20 pm

1. För att inte tala om alla dessa kvinnor/All These Women - 4/10 Ingmar Bergman was a great genius when it came to drama. When it came to comedy… ??????
2. Kvinnodröm/Dreams - Cahiers du Cinema list - another Ingmar Bergman - lots of jewels in this movie, was kind of irrelevant, but still okay.

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Post by 3eyes » August 3rd, 2016, 2:46 am

2. Nummisuutarit /The Village Shoemakers (Fin 1923)
A comedy which I did get into as it went along. (I was glad I can sort of read Swedish, as the English subs are a bit strange and don't always fit in the frame.)
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Post by albajos » August 3rd, 2016, 7:24 am

3. Kill Buljo: The Movie (Tommy Wirkola, 2007) - Norway. The Director of Død snø and Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters trying to spoof Kill Bil
4. Louder Than Bombs (Joachim Trier, 2015) - Norway, 33% chance that it will win Amanda later this month
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alphabetical:
01. Arven (1979)
02. Detektiv Downs (2013)
03. Kill Buljo: The Movie (2007)
04. Louder Than Bombs (2015)

year of release:
01. Arven (1979)
03. Kill Buljo: The Movie (2007)
02. Detektiv Downs (2013)
04. Louder Than Bombs (2015)

the votes:
5/10: Arven (1979)
4/10: Detektiv Downs (2013)
2/10: Kill Buljo: The Movie (2007)

average vote: 3,66 (11/3)
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Post by 3eyes » August 4th, 2016, 3:41 am

3. Vi är bäst! (Swe 13)
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Post by albajos » August 4th, 2016, 7:25 am

5. Äppelkriget (Tage Danielsson, 1971) - Sweden, Guldbagge Award, FLM's Best Swedish Films of All Time, (The Hasse & Tage-films)
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alphabetical:
05. Äppelkriget (1971)
01. Arven (1979)
02. Detektiv Downs (2013)
03. Kill Buljo: The Movie (2007)
04. Louder Than Bombs (2015)

year of release:
05. Äppelkriget (1971)
01. Arven (1979)
03. Kill Buljo: The Movie (2007)
02. Detektiv Downs (2013)
04. Louder Than Bombs (2015)

the votes:
7/10: Louder Than Bombs (2015)
5/10: Arven (1979)
4/10: Detektiv Downs (2013)
2/10: Kill Buljo: The Movie (2007)

average vote: 4,5 (18/4)
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Post by Perception de Ambiguity » August 4th, 2016, 1:28 pm

3eyes on Aug 1 2016, 12:09:07 PM wrote:- Rewatches are welcome (But only once)
In other words only one rewatch is allowed?
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Post by 3eyes » August 4th, 2016, 2:11 pm

Arrgh, I copied that from the rules 2 years ago. I assume it means that you can't watch (count) the same movie twice for this challenge, whether you've seen it before or not. That should go without saying, shouldn't it? I'll fix it.
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Post by Perception de Ambiguity » August 4th, 2016, 3:18 pm

3eyes on Aug 4 2016, 08:11:05 AM wrote:Arrgh, I copied that from the rules 2 years ago. I assume it means that you can't watch (count) the same movie twice for this challenge, whether you've seen it before or not. That should go without saying, shouldn't it? I'll fix it.
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Post by albajos » August 4th, 2016, 3:31 pm

Oh noes! You say I can't see The Seventh Seal 100 times in a row?

(well, I still can, but not for the challenge :)

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Post by 3eyes » August 4th, 2016, 5:11 pm

albajos on Aug 4 2016, 09:31:42 AM wrote:Oh noes! You say I can't see The Seventh Seal 100 times in a row?

(well, I still can, but not for the challenge :)
But it only counts once for the challenge. (I'd put an emo in there but us aspies don't read facial expressions very well.)
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Post by 3eyes » August 5th, 2016, 3:00 am

4. Hode over vannet (Norway 1993)
Frenetic black comedy - it brought to mind The Ladykillers (UK version).

5. Thomas Graals Besta film (Swe 1917)
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1. Præsidenten /The president (Den 1919)
2. Nummisuutarit /The Village Shoemakers (Fin 1923)
3. Vi är bäst! (Swe 2013)
4. Hode over vannet (Norway 1993)
5. Thomas Graals Besta film (Swe 1917)
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Post by Knaldskalle » August 5th, 2016, 6:53 am

1. Det sande ansigt (Ipsen & Lauritzen, 1951). Holy jalapeño! An existentialist noir. A little bit clunky in the middle (dialog is a bit hokey at times), but the beginning and end are outstanding! Found it on Youtube, but there are no subs. It's not on any of the private trackers I know of, but there is supposedly a DVD of it somewhere (but without subs or captions, according to the info I have). A damn shame, this is really good. I am perhaps biased, but I'm surprised at how much I liked this (especially given my low opinion of Danish movies from the 1960s to early 1990s). Odd, this was 720p on Youtube. I guess someone ripped the DFI online film service?
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Post by allisoncm » August 5th, 2016, 8:16 am

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1. För att inte tala om alla dessa kvinnor/All These Women - 4/10 Ingmar Bergman was a great genius when it came to drama. When it came to comedy… ??????
2. Kvinnodröm/Dreams - Cahiers du Cinema list - another Ingmar Bergman - lots of jewels in this movie, was kind of irrelevant, but still okay.
3. Speedy Gonzales - noin 7 veljeksen poika (Finland) Cheap looking western. It's okay, but doesn't really stand out.
4. Neitoperho (Finnish) This one doesn't really rise above. It may be watchable, but not sure why it would be considered one of Finland's best films.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » August 5th, 2016, 9:33 am

1. Les géants (2011) 3/10
Don't like the kids, don't like the setting, and the narrative doesn't go anywhere interesting or realistic. After about half the movie I had a whole slew of things I wanted to complain about it, by the end I just want to forget about it.

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Post by Perception de Ambiguity » August 6th, 2016, 5:25 pm

1. Sweden - Jungfrukällan / The Virgin Spring (Ingmar Bergman, written by Ulla Isaksson, 1960) (rewatch) 3+/10 (from 4)

2. Sweden - De två saliga / The Blessed Ones (Ingmar Bergman, written by Ulla Isaksson, 1986) 6+/10

3. Sweden - Smultronstället / Wild Strawberries (Ingmar Bergman, written by Ingmar Bergman, 1957) (rewatch) 7-/10 (from 6)

4. Sweden - Trollflöjten / Die Zauberflöte (Ingmar Bergman, written by WAM and others, 1975) 5/10

5. Sweden - Fängelse / Prison / The Devil's Wanton (Ingmar Bergman, written by Ingmar Bergman, 1949) 7/10
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » August 6th, 2016, 7:25 pm

2. Pauline & Paulette (2001) 6/10
Cute old person dramedy, but the characters aren't all that interesting and their development is very sporadic.

3. Cloaca (2003) 7/10
An interesting and occasionally amusing dialogue heavy stage adaptation. The characters aren't really sympathetic to me, which undermines some of what its trying to do, but its still compelling enough to watch.

4. Toto le héros (1991) 9/10
Wonderful tale of youth and old age that uses eccentric plot devices to keep things light and amusing while it delves into the sorrow and isolation of the main character. Much like Mr. Nobody it's something that is heavily stylized and emotional and either clicks or it doesn't, thankfully it does for me.
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1. Les géants (2011) 3/10
2. Pauline & Paulette (2001) 6/10
3. Cloaca (2003) 7/10
4. Toto le héros (1991) 9/10
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Post by albajos » August 7th, 2016, 3:56 pm

6. Felix (Rasmus Breistein, 1921) - Norway
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alphabetical:
05. Äppelkriget (1971)
01. Arven (1979)
02. Detektiv Downs (2013)
06. Felix (1921)
03. Kill Buljo: The Movie (2007)
04. Louder Than Bombs (2015)

year of release:
06. Felix (1921)
05. Äppelkriget (1971)
01. Arven (1979)
03. Kill Buljo: The Movie (2007)
02. Detektiv Downs (2013)
04. Louder Than Bombs (2015)

the votes:
7/10: Louder Than Bombs (2015)
6/10: Äppelkriget (1971)
5/10: Arven (1979)
4/10: Detektiv Downs (2013)
3/10: Felix (1921)
2/10: Kill Buljo: The Movie (2007)

average vote: 4,5 (27/6)
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Post by 3eyes » August 8th, 2016, 2:46 am

6. Tusen ganger god natt / 1,000 times good night (Nor 13)
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1. Præsidenten /The president (Den 1919, Dreyer)
2. Nummisuutarit /The Village Shoemakers (Fin 1923)
3. Vi är bäst! (Swe 2013)
4. Hode over vannet (Norway 1993)
5. Thomas Graals Besta film (Swe 1917, Stiller)
6. Tusen ganger god natt / 1,000 times good night (Nor 13)
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Post by 3eyes » August 8th, 2016, 3:30 am

6. Tusen ganger god natt / 1,000 times good night (Nor 13)
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1. Præsidenten /The president (Den 1919, Dreyer)
2. Nummisuutarit /The Village Shoemakers (Fin 1923)
3. Vi är bäst! (Swe 2013)
4. Hode over vannet (Norway 1993)
5. Thomas Graals Besta film (Swe 1917, Stiller)
6. Tusen ganger god natt / 1,000 times good night (Nor 13)
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Post by Knaldskalle » August 8th, 2016, 6:07 am

2. Adam og Eva (Balling, 1953).Eh. Comedy about a French (erotic?) book that causes embarrassing moments for its possessor and of course the book is passed from person to person so we can get some vignettes. This may have been a little edgy in 1953, but is utterly harmless today. We do get to see some good actors and the directing is not bad (Balling would later become legendary in Denmark for his 13 "Olsen Gang" movies).
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » August 8th, 2016, 7:33 am

5. Antonia (1995) 5/10
Lots of comments on ICM about how this is awful/great because of the strident feminism, but I don't really get either side of it. Yeah the film has a feminist perspective, and a few scenes are over the top, but it's not like it ever develops into any actual commentary on the subject. Mostly it's used to try to provide an absurdist bent to the narrative, but I don't think it's very successful in that. So a lot of what seem like they should be amusing asides are dreary scenes that slog the film down. The other main problem is it's a wide scope film playing out a number of "important" scenes in Antonia's life, but they rarely further Antonia's characterization so by the end it all feels like a really shallow film trying to have depth. There are scenes and moments I found enjoyable or thoughtful, but there's a lot of other stuff to slog through to get to them.

6. Ober (2006) 8/10
I've enjoyed all the van Warmerdam films I've seen, but they always leave me a little distanced. This is the closest to hitting the sweet spot, and I think it's because of the meta aspects. It has the usual absurdist humour of his films, but the wrinkle adds a layer of meaning besides "modern life sucks."

7. Kleine Teun (1998) 8/10
No meta stuff here, but still a fun slice of unreality from van Warmerdam. Great performances from a small cast. I think that's part of the appeal to me, it doesn't feel stagey, but it's a dialogue heavy low key film with a lot of back and forth.

8. Harry og kammertjeneren (1961) 7/10
It's a cute film that feels very much like something that would have come out of Hollywood in the 40s. A simple premise with a twist, used for laughs but also to give the characters a bit of growth and a slight bit of social commentary.

9. Steve + Sky (2004) 7/10
Very stylish, and it really builds up the two leads well, but it's missing something for me.
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1. Les géants (2011) 3/10
2. Pauline & Paulette (2001) 6/10
3. Cloaca (2003) 7/10
4. Toto le héros (1991) 9/10
5. Antonia (1995) 5/10
6. Ober (2006) 8/10
7. Kleine Teun (1998) 8/10
8. Harry og kammertjeneren (1961) 7/10
9. Steve + Sky (2004) 7/10

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Post by albajos » August 8th, 2016, 11:41 am

7. Släpp fångarne loss, det är vår! (Tage Danielsson, 1975) - Sweden, Guldbagge Award
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alphabetical:
05. Äppelkriget (1971)
01. Arven (1979)
02. Detektiv Downs (2013)
06. Felix (1921)
03. Kill Buljo: The Movie (2007)
04. Louder Than Bombs (2015)
07. Släpp fångarne loss, det är vår! (1975)

year of release:
06. Felix (1921)
05. Äppelkriget (1971)
07. Släpp fångarne loss, det är vår! (1975)
01. Arven (1979)
03. Kill Buljo: The Movie (2007)
02. Detektiv Downs (2013)
04. Louder Than Bombs (2015)

the votes:
7/10: Louder Than Bombs (2015)
6/10: Äppelkriget (1971)
5/10: Arven (1979)
4/10: Detektiv Downs (2013)
3/10: Felix (1921)
2/10: Kill Buljo: The Movie (2007)

average vote: 4,5 (27/6)
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Post by 3eyes » August 9th, 2016, 3:55 am

7. Hross i oss / Of horses and men (Iceland 13)
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1. Præsidenten /The president (Den 1919, Dreyer)
2. Nummisuutarit /The Village Shoemakers (Fin 1923)
3. Vi är bäst! (Swe 2013)
4. Hode over vannet (Norway 1993)
5. Thomas Graals Besta film (Swe 1917, Stiller)
6. Tusen ganger god natt / 1,000 times good night (Nor 13)
7. Hross i oss / Of horses and men (Iceland 13)
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Post by Knaldskalle » August 9th, 2016, 6:17 am

3. Ingen tid til kærtegn/Be Dear to Me (Hovmand, 1957). A story that's been done both before and since, this has a certain charm because of the sincerity of the 8 year old girl playing the lead role. After a strong first hour it loses some steam during the last third, but the ending is pretty good.
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1. Det sande ansigt (Ipsen & Lauritzen, 1951)
2. Adam og Eva (Balling, 1953)
3. Ingen tid til kærtegn/Be Dear to Me (Hovmand, 1957)
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Post by tommy_leazaq » August 9th, 2016, 6:35 am

1. Oslo, 31 August - I expected much more as this was praised so much around these parts. Still good character study but not great. 7/10

2. Songs from the Second Floor - I didn't hear any songs from the second floor. 7/10

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