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Fergenaprido wrote: ↑March 15th, 2023, 9:02 am

xianjiro wrote: ↑March 15th, 2023, 8:44 am

Fergenaprido wrote: ↑March 15th, 2023, 6:46 am

Letterboxd's "Official" Yearly lists for 2021 and 2022 are probably your best bet, then. 2023 won't be up for another month or so, likely.

Cool. Thanks! Not being on their website, I didn't know they had yearlies. Don't see them on iCM (yet) though. And alas, I'm not able to scare them up using their search tool. Using Google, I came up with https://letterboxd.com/crew/list/2021-h ... ted-films/ . Is that what you were thinking of? And joy, I just figured out how to get text to display, so it would actually be usable though I'm thinking maybe a pain to update an iCM list.

Does anyone have any shortcuts for either downloading Letterboxd lists or converting their ID numbers to IMDb (without either having to access each movie's page or cutting and pasting titles to IMDb or iCM for searching)? Or are these 'year in review' lists locked in, never changing, retrospectives? Sorry, just trying to understand what I'm dealing with and I'm not eager to create another account to explore until I think it's worth the effort.

They're updated weekly for one year, then left as a snapshot of the ratings at that time. He usually stops a week or two after the Oscars, so the 2022 list will likely get a final update next Monday.

I don't think they're on icm, I follow them on LB so I get updates in my email every week.

https://letterboxd.com/jack/list/letter ... 0-of-2020/
https://letterboxd.com/jack/list/letter ... 0-of-2021/
https://letterboxd.com/jack/list/letter ... ed-weekly/

They're all done by the same guy, and he has them back until 2016.

Thanks! Now that I've got a better idea what's going on, I'll see what I can do. Maybe I can start adding the fixed lists this week or next.

Torgo wrote: ↑March 15th, 2023, 4:16 am

kongs_speech wrote: ↑March 15th, 2023, 3:13 am but I don't see why we have to shit on movies for being nice and wholesome.

Hey, I remember you and other folks taking an intense dump on CODA ..

I like my dose of nice every so often.

Well, to me, CODA was just sappy. There's a difference. Its attempts at comedy were strained too, whereas both of those animated flicks are genuinely funny.

Fergenaprido wrote: ↑March 9th, 2023, 8:37 pm

dirty_score wrote: ↑March 9th, 2023, 10:55 am The New Cult Canon: Mandy (2018)

Updated, thanks.

Knaldskalle wrote: ↑March 9th, 2023, 8:06 pm New "out of band" Criterion announcement:

Pasolini 101 box set (Spine #1182)

1. Accattone (1961)
2. Mamma Roma (1962)
3. Love Meetings (1964)
4. The Gospel According to Matthew (1964)
5. The Hawks and the Sparrows (1966)
6. Oedipus Rex (1967)
7. Teorema (1968)
8. Porcile (1969)
9. Medea (1969)
Plus a bunch of extra stuff and 2 short films.

Added them, thanks. Mamma Roma & Teorema were already in the list. Nothing newly official.

Sorry, but it looks like Criterion changed their minds and decided to not give the Pasolini set a spine number. They reassigned spine #1182 to The Servant. I don't know if you want to continue the policy of not including non-spine-numbered releases on the list (Bergman and Fellini sets for sure, maybe others).

Meh, I dislike this.
Also, I mean those are clearly no bonus documentaries, music videos, shorts or something .. again, meh.

Knaldskalle wrote: ↑March 15th, 2023, 5:26 pm

Fergenaprido wrote: ↑March 9th, 2023, 8:37 pm

dirty_score wrote: ↑March 9th, 2023, 10:55 am The New Cult Canon: Mandy (2018)

Updated, thanks.

Knaldskalle wrote: ↑March 9th, 2023, 8:06 pm New "out of band" Criterion announcement:

Pasolini 101 box set (Spine #1182)

1. Accattone (1961)
2. Mamma Roma (1962)
3. Love Meetings (1964)
4. The Gospel According to Matthew (1964)
5. The Hawks and the Sparrows (1966)
6. Oedipus Rex (1967)
7. Teorema (1968)
8. Porcile (1969)
9. Medea (1969)
Plus a bunch of extra stuff and 2 short films.

Added them, thanks. Mamma Roma & Teorema were already in the list. Nothing newly official.

Sorry, but it looks like Criterion changed their minds and decided to not give the Pasolini set a spine number. They reassigned spine #1182 to The Servant. I don't know if you want to continue the policy of not including non-spine-numbered releases on the list (Bergman and Fellini sets for sure, maybe others).

I didn't realize there were other sets on the list without a Spine number. Criterion is not my specialty. I'll check with the other mods. Thanks for the heads up!

Torgo wrote: ↑March 15th, 2023, 6:01 pm Meh, I dislike this.
Also, I mean those are clearly no bonus documentaries, music videos, shorts or something .. again, meh.

Except there are?

NINE-BLU-RAY SPECIAL EDITION COLLECTOR’S SET FEATURES
New 4K digital restorations of seven films and 2K digital restorations of Teorema and Medea, with uncompressed monaural soundtracks
Two shorts made by director Pier Paolo Pasolini for anthology films: La ricotta (1963) and The Sequence of the Paper Flower (1969)
Two documentaries made by Pasolini during his travels
New program on Pasolini’s visual style as told through his personal writing, narrated by actor Tilda Swinton and writer Rachel Kushner
Audio commentaries on Accattone and Teorema
Documentaries on Pasolini’s life and career featuring archival interviews with the director and his close collaborators
Episode from 1966 of the French television program Cinéastes de notre temps
Interviews with filmmakers and scholars
Trailers
New English subtitle translations
PLUS: Deluxe packaging, including a 100-page book featuring an essay and notes on the films by critic James Quandt, and writings and drawings by Pasolini

New cover by Eric Skillman

In the meantime, I've added the other two new June releases to the list: The Servant & Medicine for Melancholy. Time Bandits and Rules of the Game are already on the list.

Fergenaprido wrote: ↑March 15th, 2023, 9:09 pm Except there are?

Misunderstanding: I mean the 9 main features of the box set are "real films" which would warrant an inclusion, unlike dubious outlier cases we had before (e.g. adding all 18 Beastie Boys videos on this).

Thanks for taking care of the update.

Ah, gotcha.

Torgo wrote: ↑March 15th, 2023, 4:16 am

kongs_speech wrote: ↑March 15th, 2023, 3:13 am but I don't see why we have to shit on movies for being nice and wholesome.

Hey, I remember you and other folks taking an intense dump on CODA ..

Dumpity dump-dump-dump.

In regards to the Box Office Adjusted list, that has been broken on BOM's site for roughly a year now (maybe longer). Using the Wayback Machine, I can see that the Titanic 25th anniversary re-release sales aren't included, either, so it isn't just for new releases. Also, now going to page 2 throws an error (for me): https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/top ... offset=200

Is there any discussion, thoughts, or plans to update the source on this list to a different one on BOM, or from a different website? There is this one, although it only includes films released in 1977 or later: https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office- ... n-adjusted. Maybe we could take BOM's data that we have for pre-1977 films and then combine it with The Number's data for 1977 and later? The numbers on films aren't always the same between the two sites, either.

The current list has 118 films that are only official because of it.

edit:
some more data... there are 106 films from pre-1977 current on the BOM list.
there is also this page of data, if we wanted to re-config the list to be "top x films of each year" - https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/#tab=year
A few years ago, I made this list going back to 1975, but it could probably go back further: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/year ... asselfoot/

Nobody barely noticed the update since it was so uneventful, but this list should be updated: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/sigh ... +all+time/

Dolwphin wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 10:55 pm Nobody barely noticed the update since it was so uneventful, but this list should be updated: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/sigh ... +all+time/

There's been a lot of discussion in this thread about the Sight and Sound update and it is being worked on.

Dolwphin wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 10:55 pm Nobody barely noticed the update since it was so uneventful, but this list should be updated: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/sigh ... +all+time/

Maybe we could continue pretending it didn't ever happen for the next 10 years or so?

(I still absolutely hate the way we calculate the list. Critics poll and directors should be kept separate, the way god and nature intended.)

Oh, "hate" is such a strong word .. by the way, did we ever discuss the current S&S #1?

Torgo wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 11:44 pm Oh, "hate" is such a strong word .. by the way, did we ever discuss the current S&S #1?

It's still Citizen Kane, right?

gunnar wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 11:18 pm

Dolwphin wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 10:55 pm Nobody barely noticed the update since it was so uneventful, but this list should be updated: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/sigh ... +all+time/

There's been a lot of discussion in this thread about the Sight and Sound update and it is being worked on.

I hope it gets resolved this year.