Official lists updates

[WalterNeff]

At least the Pre-Code list will be static once it's adopted.

[beavis]

International Jury. Awards
/ Golden Bear
On the Adamant (Sur l'Adamant). Nicolas Philibert
/ Silver Bear Grand Jury Prize
Afire (Roter Himmel). Christian Petzold.
/ Silver Bear Jury Prize
Bad Living (Mal Viver). Joᾶo Canijo
/ Silver Bear. Best Director
Philippe Garrel — The Plough (Le Grand Chariot)
/ Silver Bear. Best Leading Performance
Sofía Ortero — 2,000 Species of Bees (20.000 especies de abejas). Estibaliz Urresola Solaguren
/ Silver Bear. Best Supporting Performance
Thea Ehre — Till the End of the Night" (Bis ans Ende der Nacht). Christoph Hochhäusler.
/ Silver Bear. Best Screenplay
Angela Schanelec. Music
/ Silver Bear. Outstanding Artistic Contribution
Hélène Louvart — Disco Boy. Giacomo Abbruzzese
/ Special Mention

—
Encounters. Awards
/ Encounters. Best Film
Here. Bas Devos
/ Encounters. Best Director
Tatiana Huezo — The Echo (El Eco)
/ Encounters. Special Jury Award
Orlando, My Political Biography. Paul B. Preciado
Samsara>. Lois Patiño
—
/ Berlinale Documentary Award
The Echo (El eco). Tatiana Huezo
/ Special Mention
Orlando, My Political Biography (Orlando, ma biographie politique). Paul B. Preciado
—
/ Panorama Audience Award
Sira. Apolline Traoré
/ Panorama Audience Award – Documentary
Kokomo City. D. Smith
/ GWFF Best First Feature Award
The Klezmer Project (Adentro mío estoy bailando). Leandro Koch and Paloma Schachmann
/ Special Mention
The Bride. Myriam U. Birar
—
/ FIPRESCI. Awards
The Survival of Kindness. Rolf de Heer — Competition
Here. Bas Devos — Encounters
The Quiet Migration. Malene Choi Jensen — Panorama
Between Revolutions. Vlad Petri — Forum

[DulceDoes]

Slate's The Black Film Canon has been updated and expanded to 75. https://slate.com/culture/2023/02/best- ... aming.html

[dirty_score]

Slate's The Black Film Canon has been updated and expanded to 75. https://slate.com/culture/2023/02/best- ... aming.html

nice update but still no Menace II Society

[beasterne]

Exciting! A solid list just got better.

[Fergenaprido]

Slate's The Black Film Canon has been updated and expanded to 75. https://slate.com/culture/2023/02/best- ... aming.html

Updated, thanks.

25 new films:
2 Eleven P.M. 1928, in 0 top lists
5 Symbiopsychotaxiplasm: Take One 1968
16 Cane River 1982, in 0 top lists
21 Looking for Langston 1989
23 Chameleon Street 1989
33 Alma's Rainbow 1994, in 0 top lists
57 I Am Not Your Negro 2016
58 Moonlight 2016
59 Get Out 2017
60 Girls Trip 2017, in 0 top lists
61 Black Panther 2018
62 Hale County This Morning, This Evening 2018
63 Sorry to Bother You 2018
64 Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse 2018
65 Atlantique 2019 — a.k.a. Atlantics
66 Homecoming: A Film by Beyoncé 2019, in 0 top lists
67 The Forty-Year-Old Version 2020, in 0 top lists
68 Small Axe: Lovers Rock 2020
69 Time 2020
70 Summer of Soul (...Or, When the Revolution... 2021
71 Zola 2020, in 0 top lists
72 Nope 2022
73 Nanny 2022
74 Saint Omer 2022, in 0 top lists
75 The Woman King 2022, in 0 top lists

9 newly official lists. I've seen almost half of the post-2015 films and one of the older ones, but it's the three newly official older films that interest me most (Eleven P.M., Cane River, Alma's Rainbow), and fortunately for me their all on Kanopy. The article lists all the participants at the bottom, and includes streaming options for each film.

I still think more African films could/should be included, but I'm glad they've updated it and it won't be a static list. Perhaps by the end of the decade it will be a Top 100.

[kongs_speech]

Slate's The Black Film Canon has been updated and expanded to 75. https://slate.com/culture/2023/02/best- ... aming.html

Updated, thanks.

25 new films:
2 Eleven P.M. 1928, in 0 top lists
5 Symbiopsychotaxiplasm: Take One 1968
16 Cane River 1982, in 0 top lists
21 Looking for Langston 1989
23 Chameleon Street 1989
33 Alma's Rainbow 1994, in 0 top lists
57 I Am Not Your Negro 2016
58 Moonlight 2016
59 Get Out 2017
60 Girls Trip 2017, in 0 top lists
61 Black Panther 2018
62 Hale County This Morning, This Evening 2018
63 Sorry to Bother You 2018
64 Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse 2018
65 Atlantique 2019 — a.k.a. Atlantics
66 Homecoming: A Film by Beyoncé 2019, in 0 top lists
67 The Forty-Year-Old Version 2020, in 0 top lists
68 Small Axe: Lovers Rock 2020
69 Time 2020
70 Summer of Soul (...Or, When the Revolution... 2021
71 Zola 2020, in 0 top lists
72 Nope 2022
73 Nanny 2022
74 Saint Omer 2022, in 0 top lists
75 The Woman King 2022, in 0 top lists

9 newly official lists. I've seen almost half of the post-2015 films and one of the older ones, but it's the three newly official older films that interest me most (Eleven P.M., Cane River, Alma's Rainbow), and fortunately for me their all on Kanopy. The article lists all the participants at the bottom, and includes streaming options for each film.

I still think more African films could/should be included, but I'm glad they've updated it and it won't be a static list. Perhaps by the end of the decade it will be a Top 100.

16/25 on the new adds and I'm about to (by coincidence) watch Atlantics. Probably never watching Girls Trip or the Beyonce thing.

[Torgo]

Oh wow, that Black Canon update came unexpected!
Should help me immensely with staying in the <500 with so much post-2015 films. They added about everything that was acclaimed enough, eh?
Finally, my Woman King watch pays off ..

[WalterNeff]

Slate's The Black Film Canon has been updated and expanded to 75. https://slate.com/culture/2023/02/best- ... aming.html

nice update but still no Menace II Society

That's on the 101 Gangsters list

[Torgo]

Slate's The Black Film Canon has been updated and expanded to 75. https://slate.com/culture/2023/02/best- ... aming.html

nice update but still no Menace II Society

That's on the 101 Gangsters list

I'm afraid that's not going to solve it not being on the Black Film Canon list

[xianjiro]

Slate's The Black Film Canon has been updated and expanded to 75. https://slate.com/culture/2023/02/best- ... aming.html

nice update but still no Menace II Society

That's on the 101 Gangsters list

Shouldn't that be the 101 Gangstas list?

And oh god, I'm trying to watch Out of Time ... it started out with very noirish sounding music, but ... it's pretty much the usual, run of the mill guy gets stuck holding the empty bag caper. However, I will say it's probably one of the best 1000 American made noirish pictures with four POC leads made during the last half century.

While that might alone be a reason for inclusion on a noir list, there are actual noirs made by and with POC that aren't on the list. I'm losing respect for the noir list each minute I continue to watch this film.

[Knaldskalle]

I think they emphasize on the noir lists that they're not supposed to be the best noirs, just the most noirs.

[WalterNeff]

I think they emphasize on the noir lists that they're not supposed to be the best noirs, just the most noirs.

The worst noir is better than the best Godard ^TM

[blocho]

I think they emphasize on the noir lists that they're not supposed to be the best noirs, just the most noirs.

The worst noir is better than the best Godard ^TM

You've written this so many times, but what's your position on Godard's noirs? What about a movie like Alphaville, for example?

[WalterNeff]

I think they emphasize on the noir lists that they're not supposed to be the best noirs, just the most noirs.

The worst noir is better than the best Godard ^TM

You've written this so many times, but what's your position on Godard's noirs? What about a movie like Alphaville, for example?

I can't answer that for fear of opening a tear in the time-space continuum.

[Apu]

https://theyshootpictures.com/noir1000updates.htm

[WalterNeff]

https://theyshootpictures.com/noir1000updates.htm

Ooof tough update. Three unseen, one of which is unavailable.

[joachimt]

updated

[gunnar]

https://theyshootpictures.com/noir1000updates.htm

Ooof tough update. Three unseen, one of which is unavailable.

They all seem available to me. Which one are you having trouble finding?

[Lakigigar]

Oh wow, that Black Canon update came unexpected!
Should help me immensely with staying in the <500 with so much post-2015 films. They added about everything that was acclaimed enough, eh?
Finally, my Woman King watch pays off ..

That's a good update, doubled my watched films too although the four are all well known but it's nice to see films like Nope, Zola all being there. I think it potentially could become one of my best lists, in particular given it's already an above average film and because i've already been planning to watch more films from the one added in this update.

[WalterNeff]

https://theyshootpictures.com/noir1000updates.htm

Ooof tough update. Three unseen, one of which is unavailable.

They all seem available to me. Which one are you having trouble finding?

Finally found Sono otoko, kyôbô ni tsuki on freevee, so I'm good to go, thanks.

[dirty_score]

The Spaghetti Western Database's Essential Top 50 Films was updated in January

[joachimt]

The Spaghetti Western Database's Essential Top 50 Films was updated in January

On it.
Funny they call it a top 20, but list a top 50 on the source page.
https://www.spaghetti-western.net/index ... p_20_Films

[joachimt]

updated

[joachimt]

Wait, it seems the source page hasn't been updated yet, although he links to it on that topic. I can start over again. Tomorrow.....

[kongs_speech]

What are the changes?

[Fergenaprido]

Wait, it seems the source page hasn't been updated yet, although he links to it on that topic. I can start over again. Tomorrow.....

The updated list in the forum post dirty linked to.

What are the changes?

No film fell out of the Top 50, and a few films shuffled around. Only notable rises are El Puro and Forgotten Pistolero both moving up 4 spots.
https://forum.spaghetti-western.net/t/v ... 0/190/3178

[Lakigigar]

That Phase IV joke is even better when you' ve seen both movies. You're right though, phase 4 has been dissapointment after dissapointment, just the other day somebody told me Shang Chi was the best and I was like , oh yeah I saw that but can't remember anything about it. Same for Eternals, is there still a celestial being crawling out of the ocean? All these realms, universes, multiverses, realities and timelines... I just can't keep up anymore. Meh.

I've stopped too, i mean i don't watch enough film or as much as some of you guys do. Wasting my time watching 20 Superhero films every year... no, thanks.

[Torgo]

That Phase IV joke is even better when you' ve seen both movies. You're right though, phase 4 has been dissapointment after dissapointment, just the other day somebody told me Shang Chi was the best and I was like , oh yeah I saw that but can't remember anything about it. Same for Eternals, is there still a celestial being crawling out of the ocean? All these realms, universes, multiverses, realities and timelines... I just can't keep up anymore. Meh.

I've stopped too, i mean i don't watch enough film or as much as some of you guys do. Wasting my time watching 20 Superhero films every year... no, thanks.

Hey I don't watch as many films as those guys either and I still watch 20 superhero movies every year!
(And am getting more sick of them with each new craptastic sequel every month)

[Lakigigar]

That Phase IV joke is even better when you' ve seen both movies. You're right though, phase 4 has been dissapointment after dissapointment, just the other day somebody told me Shang Chi was the best and I was like , oh yeah I saw that but can't remember anything about it. Same for Eternals, is there still a celestial being crawling out of the ocean? All these realms, universes, multiverses, realities and timelines... I just can't keep up anymore. Meh.

I've stopped too, i mean i don't watch enough film or as much as some of you guys do. Wasting my time watching 20 Superhero films every year... no, thanks.

Hey I don't watch as many films as those guys either and I still watch 20 superhero movies every year!
(And am getting more sick of them with each new craptastic sequel every month)

Yeah i'm pretty sure i watch less than most guys here, though i'm at 69 so far for this year (tho one third is shorts), which is already more than 2019 and 2020 and getting closer to 2022 too (already).

[xianjiro]

https://theyshootpictures.com/noir1000updates.htm

Ooof tough update. Three unseen, one of which is unavailable.

holy shit! the world must be comin to its feckin end -- a Mexican noir FINALLY makes the friggin list

[Torgo]

Oh wow, that Black Canon update came unexpected!
Should help me immensely with staying in the <500 with so much post-2015 films. They added about everything that was acclaimed enough, eh?
Finally, my Woman King watch pays off ..

Finally, the list rankings got updated.
I went from #463 with 17/50 checks to .. #461, now with 25/75 checks.
So much for "helping me immensely"

[gunnar]

Finally, the list rankings got updated.
I went from #463 with 17/50 checks to .. #461, now with 25/75 checks.
So much for "helping me immensely"

I went from 19/50 #354 to 29/75 #305 so it worked out okay for me, though I'm now a bit farther away from getting bronze on the list (9 films as opposed to 6)

[Tasselfoot]

50/50 to 62/75... rank 1 to rank 17.

[Lakigigar]

4/50 to 8/75, +2048 in ranks to 4946. I'll work a bit later on this and watch Nope, Zola, Sorry To Bother You & Do The Right Thing which is probably going to be the second half of the month.

[erde]

All S&S-ballots have been finally published!

https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/ ... all-voters

[joachimt]

Wait, it seems the source page hasn't been updated yet, although he links to it on that topic. I can start over again. Tomorrow.....

The updated list in the forum post dirty linked to.

What are the changes?

No film fell out of the Top 50, and a few films shuffled around. Only notable rises are El Puro and Forgotten Pistolero both moving up 4 spots.
https://forum.spaghetti-western.net/t/v ... 0/190/3178

Oh right, I had the right list after all. Because of the lack of significant changes I thought I had the old list with some minor tweaks or something.

[Tasselfoot]

All S&S-ballots have been finally published!

https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/ ... all-voters

hurray! should we crowdsource this to get all the films into a google doc? or will someone, somewhere write a script to do it for us?

[erde]

How was this done the last time? I suppose BFI won't hand it to us as a spreadsheet if we ask nicely?

[Fergenaprido]

How was this done the last time? I suppose BFI won't hand it to us as a spreadsheet if we ask nicely?

PA did it manually last time, and said a few months ago he would do it again once the ballots were released if he had the time.

If he doesn't, I'll do it myself, and we should ideally have the results compiled and double-checked before the end of the month.