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Western Challenge May 2014

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Post by Kasparius » April 30th, 2014, 2:28 pm

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Goal:
Watch as many Westerns as possible.

Rules:
- A feature film (Anything over 40 minutes) counts as one entry.
- A total of 60 minutes of short films count as one entry.
- For Mini-Series or tv shows (40 minute episodes or longer) each episode counts as an entry.
- For Mini-Series or tv shows with shorter episodes (25 minutes or so), the 60 minutes rule applies.
- Rewatches are welcome

Challenges runs from May 1st - May 31st

Participants

Kasparius 46
Sortil9io 41
Burneyfan 39
ArtYanthar 37
Kowry 24
Tomelce 21
SkilledLunatic 19
HVM 17
VincentPrice 13
Cinephage 12
Jvv 12
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Cippenham 10
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Dolwphin 3
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Jgwr 1
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Lists:

How The West Was Shot: The Evolution of the Western Genre

Official ICM Lists:

100 Essential Westerns
Top Westerns IMDB
Top 50 Spaghetti Westerns
501 Movies You Must See: Western Sublist

Directors Lists:
Martin Scorsese's Western Picks
Tavernier's Overlooked or Underrated Westerns
Tarantino's Top 20 Spaghetti Westerns
Alex Cox's Top 10 Westerns
Alex Cox's Top 20 Spaghetti Westerns

100 Western Lists
100 Westerns (BFI Screen Guide)
WWA's 100 Westerns
Les 100 chefs-d'oeuvre du Western
100 Essential Westerns
Wild West's 100 Greatest Westerns
The 100 Greatest Western Movies by American Cowboy Magazine
Cowboys & Indians' 100 Best Westerns
100 Greatest Westerns by DigitalDreamDoor.Com
Squidoo's Top 100 Best Western Movies
Cinemaroll's 100 Movies All Western Fans Should See
Movie-Film-Review's The Top 100 Western Movies

Other Lists:
French Critics Select the Best Westerns
Le Western by Patrick Brion
Jonathan Rosenbaum's A Dozen Eccentric Westerns
Andrew Collins' Top 10 Westerns
Kim Newman's top 10 Greatest + 10 Overlooked Westerns
Rough Guide to Westerns
Stagecoach to Tombstone - Guide to Great Westerns and Important Ones
Tom Betts' Top 10 Westerns
Paul Duncan's Top 10 Westerns
AFI Nominations for the 10 Best Westerns
Top 50 Westerns from Time Out London
Cinemacom's 50 Fabulous Westerns
Cinemacom's 80 More Super Westerns
Cinemacom's 47 More Worthy Westerns
AMC Movie Database's Greatest Westerns
IGN's top 25 Westerns of All Time
Top 10 Western starring Randolph Scott
Dark Side of the West: 17 Truly Grim Western by the A.V. Club
Images - 30 Great Westerns
Criterion Forum Lists Project - Westerns
ICM's Most Favorite Westerns

Awards:
Westerns Nominated for An Academy Award
Western Heritage Awards (Films)
Western Heritage Awards (Television)

Personal Lists:

500 Top Western Movies by Jimbo slice
Great Western Movies - A List by Kasparius
For A Few Westerns More (Runner-ups) Kasparius
The Best American Westerns by MrActionAdventure
The Best American B Westerns by MrActionAdventure
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Post by Pretentious Hipster » April 30th, 2014, 2:33 pm

Focusing on the German challenge but I'm definitely in. I have quite a few planned already (no time to list them now cause I got work) but I will say what I wanna do this week: Rewatch Johnny Guitar! Maybe rewatch Rio Bravo as well?
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Post by Kasparius » April 30th, 2014, 2:37 pm

Anything less than an 8 for both of those will land you a ban :cowboy:

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Post by Kowry » April 30th, 2014, 2:47 pm

I haven't really been in a mood for films, maybe watching some Westerns (including revisiting those I've liked) could be a cure. I did watch a bunch some weeks ago and enjoyed that, and I remember really enjoying the last Western challenge I participated a couple of years ago. Especially want to watch some spaghetti Westerns, have seen only 8/50 from the ICM list.

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Post by Kasparius » April 30th, 2014, 2:58 pm

Kowry on Apr 30 2014, 08:47:10 AM wrote:I haven't really been in a mood for films, maybe watching some Westerns (including revisiting those I've liked) could be a cure. I did watch a bunch some weeks ago and enjoyed that, and I remember really enjoying the last Western challenge I participated a couple of years ago. Especially want to watch some spaghetti Westerns, have seen only 8/50 from the ICM list.
You got some good Spaghettis ahead, I don't have much hope for the remaining 12 I got, besides mild entertainment.

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Post by te18 » April 30th, 2014, 2:59 pm

Definitely in. Will try for at least 50.

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Post by Kasparius » April 30th, 2014, 3:00 pm

tomelce on Apr 30 2014, 08:59:02 AM wrote:Definitely in. Will try for at least 50.
I hope I can get to 50, been really busy lately.

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Post by Kowry » April 30th, 2014, 3:13 pm

Kasparius on Apr 30 2014, 08:58:58 AM wrote:
Kowry on Apr 30 2014, 08:47:10 AM wrote:I haven't really been in a mood for films, maybe watching some Westerns (including revisiting those I've liked) could be a cure. I did watch a bunch some weeks ago and enjoyed that, and I remember really enjoying the last Western challenge I participated a couple of years ago. Especially want to watch some spaghetti Westerns, have seen only 8/50 from the ICM list.
You got some good Spaghettis ahead, I don't have much hope for the remaining 12 I got, besides mild entertainment.
What would you recommend? I noticed all of the films I've seen are directed either by Leone or Corbucci. I've been meaning to check out some of Fulci's Westerns. A Bullet for the General, Keoma and Day of Anger are also on my watchlist.

Here's what I've seen

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Post by 3eyes » April 30th, 2014, 3:15 pm

I'm in, modestly. Will prolly focus mainly on spaghetti Westerns.
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Post by Kasparius » April 30th, 2014, 3:16 pm

Kowry on Apr 30 2014, 09:13:08 AM wrote:
Kasparius on Apr 30 2014, 08:58:58 AM wrote:
Kowry on Apr 30 2014, 08:47:10 AM wrote:I haven't really been in a mood for films, maybe watching some Westerns (including revisiting those I've liked) could be a cure. I did watch a bunch some weeks ago and enjoyed that, and I remember really enjoying the last Western challenge I participated a couple of years ago. Especially want to watch some spaghetti Westerns, have seen only 8/50 from the ICM list.
You got some good Spaghettis ahead, I don't have much hope for the remaining 12 I got, besides mild entertainment.
What would you recommend? I noticed all of the films I've seen are directed either by Leone or Corbucci. I've been meaning to check out some of Fulci's Westerns. A Bullet for the General, Keoma and Day of Anger are also on my watchlist.

Here's what I've seen
All three of those are pretty awesome, although I know a few people who find Keoma crappy. It has camp value, but I really like it.

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Post by Kasparius » April 30th, 2014, 3:19 pm

I forgot how to look at someone's version of a list, Kowry, but if you provide me a link, I'll tell you my faves.

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Post by Kowry » April 30th, 2014, 3:25 pm

Kasparius on Apr 30 2014, 09:16:10 AM wrote:
Kowry on Apr 30 2014, 09:13:08 AM wrote:
Kasparius on Apr 30 2014, 08:58:58 AM wrote:You got some good Spaghettis ahead, I don't have much hope for the remaining 12 I got, besides mild entertainment.
What would you recommend? I noticed all of the films I've seen are directed either by Leone or Corbucci. I've been meaning to check out some of Fulci's Westerns. A Bullet for the General, Keoma and Day of Anger are also on my watchlist.

Here's what I've seen
All three of those are pretty awesome, although I know a few people who find Keoma crappy. It has camp value, but I really like it.
Well, having listened to the Keoma soundtrack, I can believe that some might find it bit off-putting (though I really liked what I heard myself).

Anyway, as you're the official Western connoisseur here, you've probably read about the subject. Would you have some book to recommend about the subject, think reading about the subject alongside could enhance the challenge experience.

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Post by Kowry » April 30th, 2014, 3:27 pm

Kasparius on Apr 30 2014, 09:19:29 AM wrote:I forgot how to look at someone's version of a list, Kowry, but if you provide me a link, I'll tell you my faves.
You have to put '?user=username' at the end of the url, I actually linked straight to my version of the list in the earlier post but here it is again: http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/spagh ... user=kowry

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Post by VincentPrice » April 30th, 2014, 3:28 pm

In, of course.

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Post by Cippenham » April 30th, 2014, 3:30 pm

I will try to watch a few, mainly recorded from TCM
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Post by Kasparius » April 30th, 2014, 3:34 pm

Kowry on Apr 30 2014, 09:27:02 AM wrote:
Kasparius on Apr 30 2014, 09:19:29 AM wrote:I forgot how to look at someone's version of a list, Kowry, but if you provide me a link, I'll tell you my faves.
You have to put '?user=username' at the end of the url, I actually linked straight to my version of the list in the earlier post but here it is again: http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/spagh ... user=kowry
:facepalm: Sorry, I missed that

Anyway the Sergio Solima trilogy is a must, The Big Gundown; Run, Man, Run & Faccia a Faccia.

Death Rides a Horse is a really good one, Bullet for the General is great, Day of Anger & The Return of Ringo. Grand Duel is also worth a watch.

Some people swear by Django Kill, but I think it's a mess. Also I would only watch Duck, You Sucker if you are a Leone completist, it's a big let down.

Fulci's 4 of the Apocalypse isn't bad, but he's definitely not at home with westerns.

The only book I read was in French, and it was really good, but no translation. Apparently Alex Cox' book on spaghetti westerns is really good.

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Post by Kowry » April 30th, 2014, 3:53 pm

Kasparius on Apr 30 2014, 09:34:32 AM wrote:
Kowry on Apr 30 2014, 09:27:02 AM wrote:
Kasparius on Apr 30 2014, 09:19:29 AM wrote:I forgot how to look at someone's version of a list, Kowry, but if you provide me a link, I'll tell you my faves.
You have to put '?user=username' at the end of the url, I actually linked straight to my version of the list in the earlier post but here it is again: http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/spagh ... user=kowry
:facepalm: Sorry, I missed that

Anyway the Sergio Solima trilogy is a must, The Big Gundown; Run, Man, Run & Faccia a Faccia.

Death Rides a Horse is a really good one, Bullet for the General is great, Day of Anger & The Return of Ringo. Grand Duel is also worth a watch.

Some people swear by Django Kill, but I think it's a mess. Also I would only watch Duck, You Sucker if you are a Leone completist, it's a big let down.

Fulci's 4 of the Apocalypse isn't bad, but he's definitely not at home with westerns.

The only book I read was in French, and it was really good, but no translation. Apparently Alex Cox' book on spaghetti westerns is really good.
Cool, I'll take a look at those.

Cox's book (10,000 Ways to Die) seems to be available for free download on his site, which is is also cool.

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Post by jgwr » April 30th, 2014, 5:25 pm

Since rewatches are allowed, I'm in.

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Post by SkilledLunatic » April 30th, 2014, 5:37 pm

I'm in. Does Glauber Rocha films count as westerns though?

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Post by jvv » April 30th, 2014, 6:22 pm

I'll probably join you when I've finished watching Smallville.

I still need a bunch of westerns for the film genre challenge. Any recommendations for the following western subgenres?

Westerns
Biographies
Cattle Drive
Cavalry
Epic Westerns
Euro-Westerns
Frontier
Gunfighters
Hybrid Westerns (with horror, noir, road movie, martial arts, etc.)
Indian War or Indian Westerns
Issue Western
Modern Western
Musical Western
Outlaws
Road-Trail Journeys
Shoot-outs
Space Westerns
'Spaghetti' Westerns
Spoof Westerns
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Post by Knaldskalle » April 30th, 2014, 7:05 pm

Why not. Will only be a small number, though. I have a couple of spaghetti westerns in my queue that I can bump up.
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Post by Kasparius » April 30th, 2014, 7:07 pm

SkilledLunatic on Apr 30 2014, 11:37:52 AM wrote:I'm in. Does Glauber Rocha films count as westerns though?
Not all of them no, Black God and Antonio Das Mortes only.

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Post by HVM » April 30th, 2014, 7:17 pm

In.
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Post by Kasparius » April 30th, 2014, 7:34 pm

jvv on Apr 30 2014, 12:22:11 PM wrote:I'll probably join you when I've finished watching Smallville.

I still need a bunch of westerns for the film genre challenge. Any recommendations for the following western subgenres?

Westerns
Biographies
Cattle Drive
Cavalry
Epic Westerns
Euro-Westerns
Frontier
Gunfighters
Hybrid Westerns (with horror, noir, road movie, martial arts, etc.)
Indian War or Indian Westerns
Issue Western
Modern Western
Musical Western
Outlaws
Road-Trail Journeys
Shoot-outs
Space Westerns
'Spaghetti' Westerns
Spoof Westerns
Westerns
Biographies (Fairly easy, a shit ton of westerns are based on real people (My Darling Clementine, The Left Handed Gun). but if you want an actual biopic, that's trickier, as they mostly suck (Wyatt Earp)

Cattle Drive (Red River, Cattle Empire, Cowboy)
Cavalry (She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, A Distant Trumpet, Sergent Rutledge, The Horse Soldiers)
Epic Westerns (The Covered Wagon, The Big Trail, The Big Country, How the West Was Won)
Euro-Westerns (Any good Spaghetti (top of the official lists is ripe with good picks) (If Italian is out, then Une corde, un colte, Shalako, or the Winnetou german series)
Frontier (If this is about the taming of the west, then (The Covered Wagon, The Big Trail, Westward the Women, The Iron Horse)
Gunfighters (The Gunfighter, El Dorado)
Hybrid Westerns (with horror, noir, road movie, martial arts, etc.)
(Noir: Bad Day at Black Rock,Winchester 73,Day of the Outlaw, The Gunfighter, Blood on the Moon, Johnny Guitar)
(Scifi: Valley of Gwangi, Westworld)
Indian War or Indian Westerns (Little Big Man, Broken Arrow, Devil's Doorway, Apache Drums, Ulzana's Raid)
Issue Western (The Ox-Bow Incident, Little Big Man, Dances with Wolves, Broken Arrow, Devil's Doorway)
Modern Western (The Lusty Men, The Misfits, No Country for Old Men, Electric Horseman)
Musical Western (Oklahoma, Annie Get Your Gun, Paint Your Wagon, Calamity Jane)
Outlaws (Day of the Outlaw, Assassination of Jessie James, The Left Handed Gun, The Wild Bunch,
Road-Trail Journeys (The Big Trail, Wagon Master, Bend of the River)
Shoot-outs (My Darling Clementine, The Wild Bunch,
Space Westerns (Outland)
'Spaghetti' Westerns (Same as Euro Western)
Spoof Westerns (Blazing Saddles, Cat Ballou, Destry Rides Again, My Name Is Nobody, Trinity)

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Post by jvv » April 30th, 2014, 8:01 pm

Thanks. Plenty to choose from. :D

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Post by mjf314 » April 30th, 2014, 8:40 pm

I'm in. I'll aim for 5. I'll try to watch the most acclaimed stuff that I haven't already seen like Red River, Johnny Guitar, McCabe & Mrs. Miller, and a few others.
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Post by sortile9io » April 30th, 2014, 10:51 pm

These two have broken links. Not a good way to promote your own work, Kas. ;)

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Post by burneyfan » May 1st, 2014, 12:16 am

I am innnnnnnnnnnnn. Got my first two from Netflix this afternoon, and got a few others ready to roll. :guns:

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Post by Pretentious Hipster » May 1st, 2014, 3:27 am

Since it's not May yet.

0. Canyon Passage (1946) - 8/10

Jacques Tourner being as awesome as usual. This helps with my planning too because I realized that there's another sub genre of westerns that I wanna see, western noirs.
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Post by burneyfan » May 1st, 2014, 3:44 am

ArthurYanthar on Apr 30 2014, 09:27:29 PM wrote:This helps with my planning too because I realized that there's another sub genre of westerns that I wanna see, western noirs.
Blood on the Moon awaits you! :)

This may help, too: http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/weste ... kasparius/

(And Canyon Passage is really great.)
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Post by Pretentious Hipster » May 1st, 2014, 4:04 am

Yea I had that list in mind. This is also what I had planned:

Johnny Guitar, Destry Rides Again, High Plains Drifter (rewatch or own on DVD)
Tall in the Saddle, Station West, maybe Raw Edge and Der Kaiser von Kalifornien
All on 500<400 and TSPDT
More Tourner
Explore Allan Dwan's, Richard Bartlett's, and maybe William S. Hart's films
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Post by burneyfan » May 1st, 2014, 4:08 am

ArthurYanthar on Apr 30 2014, 10:04:09 PM wrote:Yea I had that list in mind. This is also what I had planned:

Johnny Guitar, Destry Rides Again, High Plains Drifter (rewatch or own on DVD)
Tall in the Saddle, Station West, maybe Raw Edge and Der Kaiser von Kalifornien
All on 500<400 and TSPDT
More Tourner
Explore Allan Dwan's, Richard Bartlett's, and maybe William S. Hart's films
Ohhhh, you have happy times ahead of you, my friend. I'm just grabbing stuff at random, some off lists, some not. I'm waiting for midnight so I can watch a cheesetastic western that's almost definitely horrendous -- I've had it sitting around for months. I like to kick some challenges off with bad/silly films, because then it only gets better! ;)

("Getting better" shouldn't be hard in this challenge; I have a few genuine goodies ahead, I expect.)

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Post by Dolwphin » May 1st, 2014, 4:11 am

I have The Ox-Bow Incident & I Shot Jesse James on DVD so should watch them. I'm planning on some Tourneur, Walsh, Ford, Mann, Daves as well.
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Post by funkybusiness » May 1st, 2014, 4:11 am

ArthurYanthar on Apr 30 2014, 10:04:09 PM wrote:All on [...] TSPDT
Are there really only 28 westerns on TSPDT? I've only 8 to go, then.

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Post by Pretentious Hipster » May 1st, 2014, 4:15 am

And I forgot, any experimental westerns if anymore exist. I really hope there's more than just Quick Billy. Oh and silents as well.
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Post by Dolwphin » May 1st, 2014, 4:15 am

Rocha? Acid westerns?
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Post by SkilledLunatic » May 1st, 2014, 4:21 am

Kasparius on Apr 30 2014, 01:07:06 PM wrote:
SkilledLunatic on Apr 30 2014, 11:37:52 AM wrote:I'm in. Does Glauber Rocha films count as westerns though?
Not all of them no, Black God and Antonio Das Mortes only.
Yep, those were the ones I was thinking, thanks.

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Post by VincentPrice » May 1st, 2014, 4:22 am

Dolwphin on Apr 30 2014, 10:11:26 PM wrote:I have The Ox-Bow Incident & I Shot Jesse James on DVD so should watch them. I'm planning on some Tourneur, Walsh, Ford, Mann, Daves as well.
The Ox-Bow Incident is absolutely fantastic, I Shot Jesse James is one of the very few Sam Fuller movies I didn't care much for the first time I saw it but I'm gonna give it another go this month,.

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Post by 3eyes » May 1st, 2014, 5:01 am

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Post by Kasparius » May 1st, 2014, 5:16 am

sortile9io on Apr 30 2014, 04:51:57 PM wrote:
These two have broken links. Not a good way to promote your own work, Kas. ;)
Fixed, thanks for the pick up.

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