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ICM Forum Top Ten Poll 2023 - Nominations

500<400, Favourite 1001 movies, Doubling the Canon, Film World Cup and many other votes
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#1 serial experiments lain (god(s)(?), 1998)
#2 Stoker (박찬욱/Park Chan Wook, 2013)
#3 INLAND EMPIRE (David Lynch, 2006)
#4 Trois Couleurs: Bleu (Krzysztof Kieślowski, 1993)
#5 The Big Lebowski (the Coen brothers, 1998)
#6 The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)
#7 Dogville (Lars von Trier, 2003)
#8 Au hasard Balthazar (Robert Bresson, 1966)
#9 Била једном једна земља / Bila jednom jedna zemlja / Once Upon a Time There Was a Country / Underground (5 Hour Cut) (Emir Kusturica, 1995)
#10 Hellzapoppin' (H.C. Potter, 1941)
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01 - Alien
02 - Sense and Sensibility
03 - L'armée des ombres
04 - North by Northwest
05 - Blade Runner
06 - L'année dernière à Marienbad
07 - Rear Window
08 - Nikita
09 - The Shining
10 - Persona
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I). ״הבורגנים״ (איתן צור, |[2000–2004]|2004/2003/2002/2001/2000);
II). “Dogville” (Lars von Trier, 2003)/Manderlay” (Lars von Trier, 2005);
III). “Nymphomaniac: Volume I” (Lars von Trier, 2013|[+2014]|)/“Nymphomaniac: Volume I – The Director’s Cut” (Lars von Trier, 2013|[+2014]|)/Nymphomaniac: Volume II” (Lars von Trier, 2013|[+2014]|)/“Nymphomaniac: Volume II – The Director’s Cut” (Lars von Trier, 2013|[+2014]|);
IV). “The House That Jack Built” (Lars von Trier, 2018|[+The Director’s Cut]|);
V). »Melancholie der Engel« (Marian Dora Botulino|[Art Doran|Uwe Jordan]|, 2009|[+The Director’s Cut]|);
VI). »Hitler, ein Film aus Deutschland« (Hans-Jürgen Syberberg, 1977|[+The English Dub]|);
VII). «Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma» (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1975|[+The Director’s Cut|+The English Dub]|);
VIII). «Vase de noces» (Thierry Zéno|[Jonard]|, 1974);
IX). «Singapore Sling: Ο Άνθρωπος που Αγάπησε ένα Πτώμα» (Νίκος Γεωργίου Νικολαΐδης, 1990);
X). “Savage Grace” (Tom Kalin, 2007).
The rest of my top twentyfive follows herein:
XI). “Shadows” (John|[Nicholas]|Cassavetes, 1958|[+1959]|);
XII). “Faces” (John|[Nicholas]|Cassavetes, 1968);
XIII). “A Woman Under the Influence” (John|[Nicholas]|Cassavetes, 1974);
XIV). “The Killing of a Chinese Bookie” (John|[Nicholas]|Cassavetes, 1976|[+1978]|)/“The Killing of a Chinese Bookie – The Director’s Cut” (John|[Nicholas]|Cassavetes, 1976|[+1978]|);
XV). “Opening Night” (John|[Nicholas]|Cassavetes, 1977);
XVI). »Vredens Dag« (Carl-Theodor Dreyer|[Nilsson]|, 1943|[+The English Dub]|);
XVII). »Ordet« (Carl-Theodor Dreyer|[Nilsson]|, 1955);
XVIII). »Gertrud« (Carl-Theodor Dreyer|[Nilsson]|, 1964);
XIX). “Abigail’s Party” (Mike Leigh, 1977);
XX). “Life Is Sweet” (Mike Leigh, 1990);
XXI). “Safe” (Todd Haynes, 1995);
XXII). »Sátántangó« (Tarr Béla, 1994);
XXIII). «No Quarto da Vanda» (Pedro Costa, 2000);
XXIV). «Juventude em Marcha» (Pedro Costa, 2006);
XXV). »Sensuela» (Teuvo Tulio|[Theodor Antonius Deroschinsky-Tugai|Teodors Turlajs]|, 1972|[+1973]|).
Runner-ups to round-up places XXVI–XXX: XXVI). «La Règle du jeu» (Jean Renoir, 1939); XXVII). “What Happened Was…” (Tom Noonan, 1994); XXVIII). “The Wife” (Tom Noonan, 1995); XXIX). ״להוציא את הכלב״ (ניר ברגמן, 2007); XXX). ״תעשה לי ילד״ (יובל שפרמן, 2008).
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This WORLD, then the FIREWORKS (Michael Oblowitz, 1997)
Happy End (1967, Oldrich Lipský)
Le clair de terre / Earth Light (1970, Guy Gilles)
The Scoundrel (Ben Hecht & Charles MacArthur (& Lee Garmes), 1935)
東京戦争戦後秘話 映画で遺書を残して死んだ男の物語 / A Secret Post-Tokyo War Story / The Battle of Tokyo / He Died After the War / The Man Who Put His Will on Film / Tôkyô sensô sengo hiwa - Eiga de isho wo nokoshite shinda otoko no monogatari (大島渚/Nagisa Ôshima, 1970)
Die Parallelstraße / The Parallel Street (Ferdinand Khittl, 1962)
iN †He MoUtH oF mAdNeSs (1994, the Carpenters)
Stoker (박찬욱/Park Chan Wook, 2013)
serial experiments: lain (god(s)(?), 1998)
Reality's Invisible (1971, Robert E. Fulton III.)
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No offence guys, but some of those lists.. :wacko:
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monclivie wrote: November 20th, 2023, 5:53 pm No offence guys, but some of those lists.. :wacko:
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Tim2460 wrote: November 16th, 2023, 9:36 pm 01 - Alien
02 - Sense and Sensibility
03 - L'armée des ombres
04 - North by Northwest
05 - Blade Runner
06 - L'année dernière à Marienbad
07 - Rear Window
08 - Nikita
09 - The Shining
10 - Persona
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10 films is really not much :folded:
I find lists like this one fascinating but also reassuring. You’re one of the most widely experienced cinephiles on the site, having seen thousands and thousands of films, and yet your top 10 is still very accessible films of which I’ve seen 9/10 (just missing Nikita). It’s nice to know that even for someone as well-versed in films as you are, the classics are the classics for a reason, and they remain a great place to start when deciding which films to watch next.
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beasterne wrote: November 20th, 2023, 9:34 pm
Tim2460 wrote: November 16th, 2023, 9:36 pm 01 - Alien
02 - Sense and Sensibility
03 - L'armée des ombres
04 - North by Northwest
05 - Blade Runner
06 - L'année dernière à Marienbad
07 - Rear Window
08 - Nikita
09 - The Shining
10 - Persona
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10 films is really not much :folded:
I find lists like this one fascinating but also reassuring. You’re one of the most widely experienced cinephiles on the site, having seen thousands and thousands of films, and yet your top 10 is still very accessible films of which I’ve seen 9/10 (just missing Nikita). It’s nice to know that even for someone as well-versed in films as you are, the classics are the classics for a reason, and they remain a great place to start when deciding which films to watch next.
But even Tim's list is a record of an evolving canon, The Army of Shadow was dumped on release and only discovered by American audiences in 2006.

Chris was looking for support for Med Hondo's 1979 film West Indies, which most of the world is only just starting to view now.

Quite apart from a LOT of overlooking of movies by critics and the vagaries of distribution, many of people will have very personal emotional, artistic and intellectual connections to their own canons. And that is good.
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Hi there, LeSchpountz!

I have never attempted a Top 10 before; for me such a focused personal selection must prioritise unforgettable favourites that have imprinted themselves indelibly upon one's heart.

01. Rok spokojnego słońca / A Year of the Quiet Sun (1984, Krzysztof Zanussi)
02. Heimkehr / Homecoming (1928, Joe May)
03. Mar adentro / The Sea Inside (2004, Alejandro Amenábar)
04. Hiroshima mon amour / Hiroshima, My Love (1959, Alain Resnais)
05. La Femme infidèle / The Unfaithful Wife (1969, Claude Chabrol)
06. Banshun / Late Spring (1949, Yasujirō Ozu)
07. Orphée / Orpheus (1950, Jean Cocteau)
08. Bridges-Go-Round (1958, Shirley Clarke)
09. The Prisoner of Zenda (1937, John Cromwell)
10. Biyaya ng Lupa / Blessings of the Land (1959, Manuel Silos)

I'll add the IMDb links soon.

:cheers:
That's all, folks!
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beasterne wrote: November 20th, 2023, 9:34 pm
Tim2460 wrote: November 16th, 2023, 9:36 pm 01 - Alien
02 - Sense and Sensibility
03 - L'armée des ombres
04 - North by Northwest
05 - Blade Runner
06 - L'année dernière à Marienbad
07 - Rear Window
08 - Nikita
09 - The Shining
10 - Persona
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10 films is really not much :folded:
I find lists like this one fascinating but also reassuring. You’re one of the most widely experienced cinephiles on the site, having seen thousands and thousands of films, and yet your top 10 is still very accessible films of which I’ve seen 9/10 (just missing Nikita). It’s nice to know that even for someone as well-versed in films as you are, the classics are the classics for a reason, and they remain a great place to start when deciding which films to watch next.
I'm not sure about Tim's thought process about the list, but when you only have 10 votes I think a lot of us (me included) "mainstreamed" our lists to have a more significant impact.
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RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 8:46 am Hi there, LeSchpountz!

I have never attempted a Top 10 before; for me such a focused personal selection must prioritise unforgettable favourites that have imprinted themselves indelibly upon one's heart.

01. Rok spokojnego słońca / A Year of the Quiet Sun (1984, Krzysztof Zanussi)
02. Heimkehr / Homecoming (1928, Joe May)
03. Mar adentro / The Sea Inside (2004, Alejandro Amenábar)
04. Hiroshima mon amour / Hiroshima, My Love (1959, Alain Resnais)
05. La Femme infidèle / The Unfaithful Wife (1969, Claude Chabrol)
06. Banshun / Late Spring (1949, Yasujirō Ozu)
07. Orphée / Orpheus (1950, Jean Cocteau)
08. Bridges-Go-Round (1958, Shirley Clarke)
09. The Prisoner of Zenda (1937, John Cromwell)
10. Biyaya ng Lupa / Blessings of the Land (1959, Manuel Silos)

I'll add the IMDb links soon.

:cheers:
Hello RogerTheMovieManiac, oh, it's very similar to me.
The decisive factor in the selection was the feel-good character and the fact that something deep in the heart is being able to watch these films over and over again.
Born in 1970! Unfortunately, I can't remember the first film I saw. The following three films that I saw when I was young left strong memories: Krakatit (1948, Vavra), Dance of the Vampires (1967, Polanski), Paper Moon (1973, Bogdanovich).
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Cinephile wrote: November 18th, 2023, 12:03 am I). ״הבורגנים״ (איתן צור, |[2000–2004]|2004/2003/2002/2001/2000);
II). “Dogville” (Lars von Trier, 2003)/Manderlay” (Lars von Trier, 2005);
III). “Nymphomaniac: Volume I” (Lars von Trier, 2013)/“Nymphomaniac: Volume I – The Director’s Cut” (Lars von Trier, 2013|[+2014]|)/Nymphomaniac: Volume II” (Lars von Trier, 2013)/“Nymphomaniac: Volume II – The Director’s Cut” (Lars von Trier, 2013|[+2014]|);
IV). “The House That Jack Built” (Lars von Trier, 2018|[+The Director’s Cut]|);
V). »Melancholie der Engel« (Marian Dora Botulino|[Art Doran|Uwe Jordan]|, 2009|[+The Director’s Cut]|);
VI). »Hitler, ein Film aus Deutschland« (Hans-Jürgen Syberberg, 1977|[+The English Dub]|);
VII). «Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma» (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1975|[+The Director’s Cut|+The English Dub]|);
VIII). «Vase de noces» (Thierry Zéno|[Jonard]|, 1974);
IX). «Singapore Sling: Ο Άνθρωπος που Αγάπησε ένα Πτώμα» (Νίκος Γεωργίου Νικολαΐδης, 1990);
X). “Savage Grace” (Tom Kalin, 2007).
The rest of my top twentyfive follows herein:
XI). “Shadows” (John|[Nicholas]|Cassavetes, 1958|[+1959]|);
XII). “Faces” (John|[Nicholas]|Cassavetes, 1968);
XIII). “A Woman Under the Influence” (John|[Nicholas]|Cassavetes, 1974);
XIV). “The Killing of a Chinese Bookie” (John|[Nicholas]|Cassavetes, 1976)/“The Killing of a Chinese Bookie – The Director’s Cut” (John|[Nicholas]|Cassavetes, 1976|[+1978]|);
XV). “Opening Night” (John|[Nicholas]|Cassavetes, 1977);
XVI). »Vredens Dag« (Carl-Theodor Dreyer|[Nilsson]|, 1943);
XVII). »Ordet« (Carl-Theodor Dreyer|[Nilsson]|, 1955);
XVIII). »Gertrud« (Carl-Theodor Dreyer|[Nilsson]|, 1964);
XIX). “Abigail’s Party” (Mike Leigh, 1977);
XX). “Life Is Sweet” (Mike Leigh, 1990);
XXI). “Safe” (Todd Haynes, 1995);
XXII). »Sátántangó« (Tarr Béla, 1994);
XXIII). «No Quarto da Vanda» (Pedro Costa, 2000);
XXIV). «Juventude em Marcha» (Pedro Costa, 2006);
XXV). »Sensuela» (Teuvo Tulio|[Theodor Antonius Deroschinsky-Tugai|Teodors Turlajs]|, 1972|[+1973]|).
Runner-ups to round-up places XXVI–XXX: XXVI). «La Règle du jeu» (Jean Renoir, 1939); XXVII). “What Happened Was…” (Tom Noonan, 1994); XXVIII). “The Wife” (Tom Noonan, 1995); XXIX). ״להוציא את הכלב״ (ניר ברגמן, 2007); XXX). ״תעשה לי ילד״ (יובל שפרמן, 2008).


Hello Cinephile
sorry, unfortunately, your number 1 is not eligible to participate.
I also can't accept two films in one position.

Your top ten currently looks like this to me:

01 Dogville
02 Manderlay
03 Nymphomaniac (Volume I & II)
04 The House That Jack Built
05 Melancholie der Engel
06 Hitler, ein Film aus Deutschland
07 Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma
08 Vase de noces
09 Singapore sling: O anthropos pou agapise ena ptoma
10 Savage Grace


Addendum: Good arguments ensure that I will see "Nymphomaniac" (which I haven't seen yet) as one film. Of course, in the hope that no other participant will only prioritize one part and find it inappropriate thats both parts will then be reflected in the final evaluation.
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monclivie wrote: November 20th, 2023, 5:53 pm No offence guys, but some of those lists.. :wacko:
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Your welcome, there is still time to find the ten films of your heart. :)
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LeSchpountz wrote: November 21st, 2023, 10:42 am
monclivie wrote: November 20th, 2023, 5:53 pm No offence guys, but some of those lists.. :wacko:
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Your welcome, there is still time to find the ten films of your heart. :)
I just see that you have already found the ten films. tehe
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LeSchpountz wrote: November 21st, 2023, 10:38 am Hello Cinephile
sorry, unfortunately, your number 1 is not eligible to participate.
I also can't accept two films in one position.

03 Nymphomaniac: Volume I
04 Nymphomaniac: Volume II
Note that I saw Nymphomaniac at a premiere showing, we were camera linked with select cinemas all around Europe for a special premiere screening. Nymphomaniac was screened together in its entirety on that night, not as two volumes. My belief is that it is one film, and indeed I keep it as one film on my own top list, though it didn't make my top 10 movies of all time.

I don't envy your job because it's not just this one that's tricky, you will have different listings for Fanny and Alexander, TV and theatrical cuts.
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Perception de Ambiguity wrote: November 18th, 2023, 2:27 am This WORLD, then the FIREWORKS (Michael Oblowitz, 1997)
Happy End (1967, Oldrich Lipský)
Le clair de terre / Earth Light (1970, Guy Gilles)
The Soundrel (Ben Hecht & Charles MacArthur (& Lee Garmes), 1935)
東京戦争戦後秘話 映画で遺書を残して死んだ男の物語 / A Secret Post-Tokyo War Story / The Battle of Tokyo / He Died After the War / The Man Who Put His Will on Film / Tôkyô sensô sengo hiwa - Eiga de isho wo nokoshite shinda otoko no monogatari (大島渚/Nagisa Ôshima, 1970)
Die Parallelstraße / The Parallel Street (Ferdinand Khittl, 1962)
iN tHe MoUtH oF mAdNeSs (1994, the Carpenters)
Stoker (박찬욱/Park Chan Wook, 2013)
serial experiments: lain (god(s)(?), 1998)
Reality's Invisible (1971, Robert E. Fulton III.)
I loved reading your list, even having seen it before a few times. Would you consider as per this below unusual variant of the poster using in your typography a cross for the t of "the" in iN tHe MoUtH oF mAdNeSs i.e. iN †He MoUtH oF mAdNeSs. Sutter Cane from this and Randall Flagg from The Stand loomed large over my teenage years and I'm urgently needing to catch up with them again.
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Thought they were so purty I had to share.

Also is The Soundrel the sequel to the Scoundrel :P I have tried to watch The Scoundrel before but only found it on an horrendous beat up copy so I wanted to do it better justice.
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matthewscott8 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 11:28 am
LeSchpountz wrote: November 21st, 2023, 10:38 am Hello Cinephile
sorry, unfortunately, your number 1 is not eligible to participate.
I also can't accept two films in one position.

03 Nymphomaniac: Volume I
04 Nymphomaniac: Volume II
Note that I saw Nymphomaniac at a premiere showing, we were camera linked with select cinemas all around Europe for a special premiere screening. Nymphomaniac was screened together in its entirety on that night, not as two volumes. My belief is that it is one film, and indeed I keep it as one film on my own top list, though it didn't make my top 10 movies of all time.

I don't envy your job because it's not just this one that's tricky, you will have different listings for Fanny and Alexander, TV and theatrical cuts.
Interesting point. I think sometimes IMDb can just be selective. For instance, another von Trier project was just randomly merged a few years ago: Riget and Riget 2. It used to be two mini-series, occasionally present on film lists as mini-series/serials often are, today they are considered a TV show

There are also reboots of shows that follow the same story, with the same name, etc, that is counted separately, like Fraiser (1993) and Fraiser (2023), Dr Who (1963) and Dr Who (2005), etc. And then we have serials and two-part films. Fantomas is somehow still counted as 5 individual (short) films, while Les Vampires does not even have the individual episodes listed and is just considered a long film.

War and Peace has to be the most bizarre listing, as the most common IMDb entry is a 6+ hour 4-part film, but each of the 4 parts it is made up of also have individual IMDb pages. Should Nymphomaniac get one?

Another obvious one is Grindhouse, where Death Proof and Planet Terror both have individual listings, as well as a joint listing.
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St. Gloede wrote: November 21st, 2023, 11:53 am
matthewscott8 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 11:28 am
LeSchpountz wrote: November 21st, 2023, 10:38 am Hello Cinephile
sorry, unfortunately, your number 1 is not eligible to participate.
I also can't accept two films in one position.

03 Nymphomaniac: Volume I
04 Nymphomaniac: Volume II
Note that I saw Nymphomaniac at a premiere showing, we were camera linked with select cinemas all around Europe for a special premiere screening. Nymphomaniac was screened together in its entirety on that night, not as two volumes. My belief is that it is one film, and indeed I keep it as one film on my own top list, though it didn't make my top 10 movies of all time.

I don't envy your job because it's not just this one that's tricky, you will have different listings for Fanny and Alexander, TV and theatrical cuts.
Interesting point. I think sometimes IMDb can just be selective. For instance, another von Trier project was just randomly merged a few years ago: Riget and Riget 2. It used to be two mini-series, occasionally present on film lists as mini-series/serials often are, today they are considered a TV show

There are also reboots of shows that follow the same story, with the same name, etc, that is counted separately, like Fraiser (1993) and Fraiser (2023), Dr Who (1963) and Dr Who (2005), etc. And then we have serials and two-part films. Fantomas is somehow still counted as 5 individual (short) films, while Les Vampires does not even have the individual episodes listed and is just considered a long film.

War and Peace has to be the most bizarre listing, as the most common IMDb entry is a 6+ hour 4-part film, but each of the 4 parts it is made up of also have individual IMDb pages. Should Nymphomaniac get one?

Another obvious one is Grindhouse, where Death Proof and Planet Terror both have individual listings, as well as a joint listing.
Red Riding is my own personal thorn in the side. It used to have a listing as a mini series and also as three individual films, exactly as intended by the producers (they wanted each of the films to stand alone but also be able to fit as a miniseries). It even won an award as a miniseries. Then one fine day the IMDb came along and deleted the miniseries page. Re my vagaries of distribution point, if people had ever seen it, it would be on many lists.
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LeSchpountz wrote: November 21st, 2023, 10:27 am
RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 8:46 am Hi there, LeSchpountz!

I have never attempted a Top 10 before; for me such a focused personal selection must prioritise unforgettable favourites that have imprinted themselves indelibly upon one's heart.

01. Rok spokojnego słońca / A Year of the Quiet Sun (1984, Krzysztof Zanussi)
02. Heimkehr / Homecoming (1928, Joe May)
03. Mar adentro / The Sea Inside (2004, Alejandro Amenábar)
04. Hiroshima mon amour / Hiroshima, My Love (1959, Alain Resnais)
05. La Femme infidèle / The Unfaithful Wife (1969, Claude Chabrol)
06. Banshun / Late Spring (1949, Yasujirō Ozu)
07. Orphée / Orpheus (1950, Jean Cocteau)
08. Bridges-Go-Round (1958, Shirley Clarke)
09. The Prisoner of Zenda (1937, John Cromwell)
10. Biyaya ng Lupa / Blessings of the Land (1959, Manuel Silos)

I'll add the IMDb links soon.

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Hello RogerTheMovieManiac, oh, it's very similar to me.
The decisive factor in the selection was the feel-good character and the fact that something deep in the heart is being able to watch these films over and over again.
Re-watchability was a relatively minor consideration for me. My Top 3 moved me so much that I don't know that I will ever watch them again. The Zanussi brought me to tears for several days afterwards! Sometimes one viewing is enough, for films that hit one on a profound level. I could certainly see myself watching again with eagerness most of the other films in my Top 10.
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RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 8:46 am Hi there, LeSchpountz!

I have never attempted a Top 10 before; for me such a focused personal selection must prioritise unforgettable favourites that have imprinted themselves indelibly upon one's heart.

01. Rok spokojnego słońca / A Year of the Quiet Sun (1984, Krzysztof Zanussi)
02. Heimkehr / Homecoming (1928, Joe May)
03. Mar adentro / The Sea Inside (2004, Alejandro Amenábar)
04. Hiroshima mon amour / Hiroshima, My Love (1959, Alain Resnais)
05. La Femme infidèle / The Unfaithful Wife (1969, Claude Chabrol)
06. Banshun / Late Spring (1949, Yasujirō Ozu)
07. Orphée / Orpheus (1950, Jean Cocteau)
08. Bridges-Go-Round (1958, Shirley Clarke)
09. The Prisoner of Zenda (1937, John Cromwell)
10. Biyaya ng Lupa / Blessings of the Land (1959, Manuel Silos)

I'll add the IMDb links soon.

:cheers:
Did you know there is a nicer quality version of Heimkehr on https://www.europeanfilmgateway.eu/deta ... 4c8f261b51 these days. No music or subs for the intertitles though. There has been some chat about it being put out on a bluray at some point.
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matthewscott8 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 12:12 pm
RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 8:46 am Hi there, LeSchpountz!

I have never attempted a Top 10 before; for me such a focused personal selection must prioritise unforgettable favourites that have imprinted themselves indelibly upon one's heart.

01. Rok spokojnego słońca / A Year of the Quiet Sun (1984, Krzysztof Zanussi)
02. Heimkehr / Homecoming (1928, Joe May)
03. Mar adentro / The Sea Inside (2004, Alejandro Amenábar)
04. Hiroshima mon amour / Hiroshima, My Love (1959, Alain Resnais)
05. La Femme infidèle / The Unfaithful Wife (1969, Claude Chabrol)
06. Banshun / Late Spring (1949, Yasujirō Ozu)
07. Orphée / Orpheus (1950, Jean Cocteau)
08. Bridges-Go-Round (1958, Shirley Clarke)
09. The Prisoner of Zenda (1937, John Cromwell)
10. Biyaya ng Lupa / Blessings of the Land (1959, Manuel Silos)

I'll add the IMDb links soon.

:cheers:
Did you know there is a nicer quality version of Heimkehr on https://www.europeanfilmgateway.eu/deta ... 4c8f261b51 these days. No music or subs for the intertitles though. There has been some chat about it being put out on a bluray at some point.
That looks like the version I watched on filmportal.de, Matt. I added some carefully selected Chopin and Poulenc when I watched it 6 or 7 years ago. Music tends to make silents so much more alive!

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St. Gloede wrote: November 21st, 2023, 9:34 am
beasterne wrote: November 20th, 2023, 9:34 pm
Tim2460 wrote: November 16th, 2023, 9:36 pm 01 - Alien
02 - Sense and Sensibility
03 - L'armée des ombres
04 - North by Northwest
05 - Blade Runner
06 - L'année dernière à Marienbad
07 - Rear Window
08 - Nikita
09 - The Shining
10 - Persona
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10 films is really not much :folded:
I find lists like this one fascinating but also reassuring. You’re one of the most widely experienced cinephiles on the site, having seen thousands and thousands of films, and yet your top 10 is still very accessible films of which I’ve seen 9/10 (just missing Nikita). It’s nice to know that even for someone as well-versed in films as you are, the classics are the classics for a reason, and they remain a great place to start when deciding which films to watch next.
I'm not sure about Tim's thought process about the list, but when you only have 10 votes I think a lot of us (me included) "mainstreamed" our lists to have a more significant impact.
Top 10 Film List is really hard to deliver :/

Most of my top 10 would have been the same 10 years ago.. Only Persona and Marienbad are "new" top 10 and were watched after i joined iCM working throught the 20+ Lists films ... Didn't miss much back in that time ... but never really appreciate Bergman before as a younger adult and missed Marienbad totaly.

L'armée des ombres is indeed an incredible film : I'm glad to find non-french people apreciate it.

To finish the alien Mafia having only 2 members (as Me & Peeptoad) i may have upped it a little in the chart... But that's the game ;)
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matthewscott8 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 11:28 am
LeSchpountz wrote: November 21st, 2023, 10:38 am Hello Cinephile
sorry, unfortunately, your number 1 is not eligible to participate.
I also can't accept two films in one position.

03 Nymphomaniac: Volume I
04 Nymphomaniac: Volume II
Note that I saw Nymphomaniac at a premiere showing, we were camera linked with select cinemas all around Europe for a special premiere screening. Nymphomaniac was screened together in its entirety on that night, not as two volumes. My belief is that it is one film, and indeed I keep it as one film on my own top list, though it didn't make my top 10 movies of all time.

I don't envy your job because it's not just this one that's tricky, you will have different listings for Fanny and Alexander, TV and theatrical cuts.
Thank you for the good note. I will consider "Nymphomaniac" (Vol. I & II) as one film. :thumbsup:
Born in 1970! Unfortunately, I can't remember the first film I saw. The following three films that I saw when I was young left strong memories: Krakatit (1948, Vavra), Dance of the Vampires (1967, Polanski), Paper Moon (1973, Bogdanovich).
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LeSchpountz wrote: November 21st, 2023, 2:43 pm
matthewscott8 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 11:28 am
LeSchpountz wrote: November 21st, 2023, 10:38 am Hello Cinephile
sorry, unfortunately, your number 1 is not eligible to participate.
I also can't accept two films in one position.

03 Nymphomaniac: Volume I
04 Nymphomaniac: Volume II
Note that I saw Nymphomaniac at a premiere showing, we were camera linked with select cinemas all around Europe for a special premiere screening. Nymphomaniac was screened together in its entirety on that night, not as two volumes. My belief is that it is one film, and indeed I keep it as one film on my own top list, though it didn't make my top 10 movies of all time.

I don't envy your job because it's not just this one that's tricky, you will have different listings for Fanny and Alexander, TV and theatrical cuts.
Thank you for the good note. I will consider "Nymphomaniac" (Vol. I & II) as one film. :thumbsup:
I just realized when looking into French films, that your username is a Pagnol film, I'm going to give it a go.
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matthewscott8 wrote: November 22nd, 2023, 10:58 am
LeSchpountz wrote: November 21st, 2023, 2:43 pm
matthewscott8 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 11:28 am Note that I saw Nymphomaniac at a premiere showing, we were camera linked with select cinemas all around Europe for a special premiere screening. Nymphomaniac was screened together in its entirety on that night, not as two volumes. My belief is that it is one film, and indeed I keep it as one film on my own top list, though it didn't make my top 10 movies of all time.

I don't envy your job because it's not just this one that's tricky, you will have different listings for Fanny and Alexander, TV and theatrical cuts.
Thank you for the good note. I will consider "Nymphomaniac" (Vol. I & II) as one film. :thumbsup:
I just realized when looking into French films, that your username is a Pagnol film, I'm going to give it a go.
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So I just started with the list of movies that absolutely needed to be in my top 10 and then I had to cut 43 movies just to get to this one.

01. Shichinin no Samurai (1954)
02. Tôkyô Monogatari (1953)
03. La Passion de Jeanne d'Arc (1928)
04. Stalker (1979)
05. Ladri di Biciclette (1948)
06. Sanshô Dayû (1954)
07. Pulp Fiction (1994)
08. El Ángel Exterminador (1962)
09. Heat (1995)
10. Ikiru (1952)
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I decided to just go with some all-time favorites. An objective 10 is pretty impossible. Honorable mention to In the Mouth of Madness, which might be in my top 10 but I just have to sit with it a little more since I've only seen it one time, and that was just last month.

1. Amadeus (1984)
2. Back to the Future (1985)
3. Fargo (1996)
4. Casablanca (1942)
5. Harakiri (1962)
6. The Wizard of Oz (1939)
7. Adaptation. (2002)
8. One Cut of the Dead (2017)
9. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
10. The Matrix (1999)
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matthewscott8 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 11:49 am
Perception de Ambiguity wrote: November 18th, 2023, 2:27 am This WORLD, then the FIREWORKS (Michael Oblowitz, 1997)
Happy End (1967, Oldrich Lipský)
Le clair de terre / Earth Light (1970, Guy Gilles)
The Soundrel (Ben Hecht & Charles MacArthur (& Lee Garmes), 1935)
東京戦争戦後秘話 映画で遺書を残して死んだ男の物語 / A Secret Post-Tokyo War Story / The Battle of Tokyo / He Died After the War / The Man Who Put His Will on Film / Tôkyô sensô sengo hiwa - Eiga de isho wo nokoshite shinda otoko no monogatari (大島渚/Nagisa Ôshima, 1970)
Die Parallelstraße / The Parallel Street (Ferdinand Khittl, 1962)
iN tHe MoUtH oF mAdNeSs (1994, the Carpenters)
Stoker (박찬욱/Park Chan Wook, 2013)
serial experiments: lain (god(s)(?), 1998)
Reality's Invisible (1971, Robert E. Fulton III.)
I loved reading your list, even having seen it before a few times. Would you consider as per this below unusual variant of the poster using in your typography a cross for the t of "the" in iN tHe MoUtH oF mAdNeSs i.e. iN †He MoUtH oF mAdNeSs. Sutter Cane from this and Randall Flagg from The Stand loomed large over my teenage years and I'm urgently needing to catch up with them again.

Thought they were so purty I had to share.

Also is The Soundrel the sequel to the Scoundrel :P I have tried to watch The Scoundrel before but only found it on an horrendous beat up copy so I wanted to do it better justice.
Done.

It's unfortunate that only a rip of a VHS copy of 'The Scoundrel' is readily available - and we might have already had this conversation at some point in the past - but the things that mattered in the film came through for me regardless of the suboptimal quality. The film lives on its screensplay more than anything. There's some fancier set design and lighting late in the film that would profit from a better copy, but by that point I'm already fully invested in it, so I didn't really miss it, I could tell what was going on, that was enough. I know and respect your philosophy to try to see films in good quality, though.
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beasterne wrote: November 22nd, 2023, 3:58 pmHonorable mention to In the Mouth of Madness, which might be in my top 10 but I just have to sit with it a little more since I've only seen it one time, and that was just last month.

Swag! I was very intrigued by iN †He MoUtH oF mAdNeSs since my first viewing, but it was a huge grower that became more relevant to my own existence with every viewing. It took many viewings and years before it became the certified classic that it is now in my mind. In a way it feels like it already was a big favorite early on, but it took me a long time before I could wrap my head around that idea. By this point I've engaged so much with the film that it would almost feel like lying to myself if I wouldn't consider it one of my absolute favorites.
Good to see a vote for 'The Matrix'.
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That's tuff.

1. Jaws
2. Rear Window
3. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
4. Goodfellas
5. Aguirre
6. 12 Angry Men
7. Psycho
8. Last Year at Marienbad
9. Moby Dick
10. Oslo, 31. August
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  1. Blue Velvet
  2. 2001: A Space Odyssey
  3. Pulp Fiction
  4. Céline et Julie vont en bateau: Phantom Ladies Over Paris
  5. Angst essen Seele auf
  6. Un condamné à mort s'est échappé ou Le vent souffle où il veut
  7. Blade Runner
  8. The Shining
  9. Ladri di biciclette
  10. M - Eine Stadt sucht einen Mörder
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Ranked:

1. Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
2. The Third Man (1949)
3. Children of Men (2006)
4. Colossus: The Forbin Project (1970)
5. The Great Escape (1963)
6. Alien (1979)
7. Rear Window (1954)
8. Pontypool (2008)
9. Blade Runner (1982)
10. Le salaire de la peur (1953)
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Hunziker wrote: November 29th, 2023, 12:14 pm Ranked:

1. Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
2. The Third Man (1949)
3. Children of Men (2006)
4. Colossus: The Forbin Project (1970)
5. The Great Escape (1963)
6. Alien (1979)
7. Rear Window (1954)
8. Pontypool (2008)
9. Blade Runner (1982)
10. Le salaire de la peur (1953)
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Some stats just for the hell of it:

By decade:
1940s 1
1950s 2
1960s 2
1970s 2
1980s 1
2000s 2


By genre:
Adventure 3
Biography 1
Drama 3
History 1
Horror 2
Film Noir 1
Mystery 2
Sci-fi 3
Thriller 6
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01 - Last Year at Marienbad

02 - A Story from Chikamatsu

03 - I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang

04 - As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief...

05 - The Music Room

06 - Hara-Kiri

07 - Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors

08 - Sans Soleil

09 - The Passion of Joan of Arc

10 - A Woman Under the Influence

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RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 12:08 pm
LeSchpountz wrote: November 21st, 2023, 10:27 am
RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 8:46 am Hi there, LeSchpountz!

I have never attempted a Top 10 before; for me such a focused personal selection must prioritise unforgettable favourites that have imprinted themselves indelibly upon one's heart.

01. Rok spokojnego słońca / A Year of the Quiet Sun (1984, Krzysztof Zanussi)
02. Heimkehr / Homecoming (1928, Joe May)
03. Mar adentro / The Sea Inside (2004, Alejandro Amenábar)
04. Hiroshima mon amour / Hiroshima, My Love (1959, Alain Resnais)
05. La Femme infidèle / The Unfaithful Wife (1969, Claude Chabrol)
06. Banshun / Late Spring (1949, Yasujirō Ozu)
07. Orphée / Orpheus (1950, Jean Cocteau)
08. Bridges-Go-Round (1958, Shirley Clarke)
09. The Prisoner of Zenda (1937, John Cromwell)
10. Biyaya ng Lupa / Blessings of the Land (1959, Manuel Silos)

I'll add the IMDb links soon.

:cheers:
Hello RogerTheMovieManiac, oh, it's very similar to me.
The decisive factor in the selection was the feel-good character and the fact that something deep in the heart is being able to watch these films over and over again.
Re-watchability was a relatively minor consideration for me. My Top 3 moved me so much that I don't know that I will ever watch them again. The Zanussi brought me to tears for several days afterwards! Sometimes one viewing is enough, for films that hit one on a profound level. I could certainly see myself watching again with eagerness most of the other films in my Top 10.
I watched A Year of the Quiet Sun tonight. A very fine film indeed and I had to fight back the tears a good few times. Much economy of communication, very gestural. A perfect ending scene. In this film Zanussi makes cinema seem easy, though of course it's not.
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matthewscott8 wrote: Yesterday, 12:30 am
RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 12:08 pm
LeSchpountz wrote: November 21st, 2023, 10:27 am

Hello RogerTheMovieManiac, oh, it's very similar to me.
The decisive factor in the selection was the feel-good character and the fact that something deep in the heart is being able to watch these films over and over again.
Re-watchability was a relatively minor consideration for me. My Top 3 moved me so much that I don't know that I will ever watch them again. The Zanussi brought me to tears for several days afterwards! Sometimes one viewing is enough, for films that hit one on a profound level. I could certainly see myself watching again with eagerness most of the other films in my Top 10.
I watched A Year of the Quiet Sun tonight. A very fine film indeed and I had to fight back the tears a good few times. Much economy of communication, very gestural. A perfect ending scene. In this film Zanussi makes cinema seem easy, though of course it's not.
It warms my heart immensely on this chilly night to hear that you watched this, Matt - and found it rewarding. I like what you say about ''economy of communication''. The barriers and hesitancy that love can override is I think the thing that carries the film across the limitations of halting interaction to something sublime and everlasting, shared in two hearts. I love the ending as well.
That's all, folks!
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RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote: Yesterday, 2:01 am
matthewscott8 wrote: Yesterday, 12:30 am
RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote: November 21st, 2023, 12:08 pm

Re-watchability was a relatively minor consideration for me. My Top 3 moved me so much that I don't know that I will ever watch them again. The Zanussi brought me to tears for several days afterwards! Sometimes one viewing is enough, for films that hit one on a profound level. I could certainly see myself watching again with eagerness most of the other films in my Top 10.
I watched A Year of the Quiet Sun tonight. A very fine film indeed and I had to fight back the tears a good few times. Much economy of communication, very gestural. A perfect ending scene. In this film Zanussi makes cinema seem easy, though of course it's not.
It warms my heart immensely on this chilly night to hear that you watched this, Matt - and found it rewarding. I like what you say about ''economy of communication''. The barriers and hesitancy that love can override is I think the thing that carries the film across the limitations of halting interaction to something sublime and everlasting, shared in two hearts. I love the ending as well.
I think it's economy of communication on more than one level, yes the way that Emilia and Norman talk to one another. Also the way for example that her mother shows how much she loves her daughter to the audience. Everything that the director needs to establish to the audience is established instantly. How quickly the neighbour's john slips into an abusive mindset when Norman is acting out his traumatic episode. The Stanford prison experiment in 10 seconds.

It's a very special film. Thanks for highlighting it here.
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