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xianjiro wrote: November 30th, 2022, 8:32 am
mightysparks wrote: November 30th, 2022, 6:43 am
xianjiro wrote: November 30th, 2022, 6:38 am [/spoiler]

Whoa! Mighty thanks! I went through three pages of results on iCM -- I'm guessing most of these haven't been added.
Ye when I make lists for TSZDT I usually just put the URLs straight into a txt file instead of making it on iCM or IMDb but maybe I should start making them somewhere so it's easier to check them out.
Well, putting all lists on iCM would be a bit of a pain though maybe you have a shortcut (or just the data) that makes it easier for you because of TSZDT. It's certainly not an expectation -- I'd volunteer to help, but I also thought about having all these lists on my added by you pages and that didn't thrill me since we can't group things there.

A compendium of Christmas Horror lists as a single list? If there is a way to help, let me know, okay?
If it was free to make endless lists I'd make another account and put a bunch on there. Chris had a lot on his old IMDb account but it got deleted. I could do a TSZDT: Christmas horror list just using the lists I posted above but it probably wouldn't be as complete as Dulce's list.

Here is the above list: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tszd ... htysparks/

I think it would be better if films were tagged as 'Christmas' rather than just using these lists but IMDb keywords are dodgy.
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mightysparks wrote: November 30th, 2022, 8:40 am
xianjiro wrote: November 30th, 2022, 8:32 am
mightysparks wrote: November 30th, 2022, 6:43 am

Ye when I make lists for TSZDT I usually just put the URLs straight into a txt file instead of making it on iCM or IMDb but maybe I should start making them somewhere so it's easier to check them out.
Well, putting all lists on iCM would be a bit of a pain though maybe you have a shortcut (or just the data) that makes it easier for you because of TSZDT. It's certainly not an expectation -- I'd volunteer to help, but I also thought about having all these lists on my added by you pages and that didn't thrill me since we can't group things there.

A compendium of Christmas Horror lists as a single list? If there is a way to help, let me know, okay?
If it was free to make endless lists I'd make another account and put a bunch on there. Chris had a lot on his old IMDb account but it got deleted. I could do a TSZDT: Christmas horror list just using the lists I posted above but it probably wouldn't be as complete as Dulce's list.

Here is the above list: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tszd ... htysparks/

I think it would be better if films were tagged as 'Christmas' rather than just using these lists but IMDb keywords are dodgy.
Yeah, I was thinking of creating another account as a work-around, but wasn't sure that was the best idea. You know the free accounts were changed a while back. "Create an unlimited number of movie lists (with up to 5000 movies)". So if that helps ...

And thanks for the list linked above. I really appreciate it. :cheers:
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I didn’t know that.. if I can ever be bothered I’ll start adding them.. at least the best ones.
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mightysparks wrote: November 30th, 2022, 2:04 am
xianjiro wrote: November 29th, 2022, 8:03 pm This is the one season where horror really fits my general mood and outlook, so I've especially been hunting for Christmas Horror (Hanukkah horror, Diwali horror, it's all acceptable).

Anyone know of any other lists or movies that isn't on her list?
Paste's Jim Vorel's 15 of the Best Christmas Horror Movies (2019)
2022 update: Paste's 25 of the Best Christmas Horror Movies
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Sorry mighty, here's some more Collider's 12 Best Mexican Horror Movies
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The 12 Best German Horror Movies Ranked

Anything to put Der Fan on the big list :shifty:
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dirty_score wrote: January 16th, 2023, 10:24 am The 12 Best German Horror Movies Ranked

Anything to put Der Fan on the big list :shifty:
I was rather surprised to see Romero on top of the list :huh: , so here's the correct link .. ;)
https://www.slashfilm.com/1168132/the-b ... es-ranked/
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Torgo wrote: January 16th, 2023, 7:39 pm
dirty_score wrote: January 16th, 2023, 10:24 am The 12 Best German Horror Movies Ranked

Anything to put Der Fan on the big list :shifty:
I was rather surprised to see Romero on top of the list :huh: , so here's the correct link .. ;)
https://www.slashfilm.com/1168132/the-b ... es-ranked/
I didn't even noticed I messed up. Thanks! :thumbsup:
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Still slowly working my way through the lists. I'm about 2/3 done (~1000 to go). It's exhausting but I'm keen to do an update this year and see how the new weighting system works out. I found a few duplicate lists which are now gone and a lot of lists had updates. I've added the last few lists mentioned in here and some others and added to the OP.
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mightysparks wrote: February 16th, 2023, 9:29 am Still slowly working my way through the lists. I'm about 2/3 done (~1000 to go). It's exhausting but I'm keen to do an update this year and see how the new weighting system works out. I found a few duplicate lists which are now gone and a lot of lists had updates. I've added the last few lists mentioned in here and some others and added to the OP.
Awesome! I'm really looking forward to it!
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mightysparks wrote: February 16th, 2023, 9:29 am Still slowly working my way through the lists. I'm about 2/3 done (~1000 to go).
:worship:
Big excitement!
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mightysparks wrote: February 16th, 2023, 9:29 am Still slowly working my way through the lists. I'm about 2/3 done (~1000 to go). It's exhausting but I'm keen to do an update this year and see how the new weighting system works out.
Thanks for all your work. I've done a few lists.
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The Pioneer Woman's Erin Cavoto & Nora Knoepflmacher's 40 Best Scary Halloween Movies That Will Give You Nightmares All October (2021) (unranked)
https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/news-en ... en-movies/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls562291588/

The Playlist's Matthew Monagle's The 15 Best Horror Films Of 2021 (2021) (ranked)
https://theplaylist.net/the-15-best-hor ... -20211213/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls562241748/

The Scariest Things: Our 500 Favorite Horror Films of All Time (2022) (ranked) <- One month after releasing their top 100, they extended it to 500
https://scariesthings.com/2022/11/20/th ... 2-edition/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls562247758/

The Wrap's Sharon Knolle's 12 Essential Queer Horror Movies (2022) (unranked)
https://www.thewrap.com/best-queer-horror-movies/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls562297248/

Today's Sarah Lemire's 68 of the scariest horror movies of all time (2022) (unranked) <- This list was updated from 55 to 68 films
https://www.today.com/popculture/movies ... -rcna33254
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls562226032/

Town & Country's Annie Goldsmith's and Swarna Gowtham's 40 All-Time Best Horror Movies (2022) (unranked) <- This list was updated from 20 to 40 films
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisu ... -all-time/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls562223434/

Variety's William Earl's Best Horror Movies of 2021 (2021) (unranked)
https://variety.com/lists/best-horror-movies-2021/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls562290344/

We Got This Covered's Debopriyaa Dutta's Best Body Horror Movies of all time (2022) (unranked)
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/bes ... -all-time/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls562223329/

We Got This Covered's Jamie Dunkin's The 5 best Australian horror films (2022) (unranked)
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/the ... ror-films/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls562223600/

We Got This Covered's Matt Goddard's The best horror movies of 2021 (2021) (unranked)
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/the ... s-of-2021/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls562223656/

World of Reel's Jordan Ruimy's The 10 Best Horror Movies of All-Time (2021) (unranked)
https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/the-10 ... f-all-time
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls562223612/
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Esquire's Gabrielle Bruney and Emma Carey's 15 Best Scary Christmas Movies (2020) (unranked)
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/m ... or-movies/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls564398864/

ScreenRant's Vanessa Elle's 10 Horror Movies From The '90s That Can Still Scare Us (2020) (unranked)
https://screenrant.com/horror-movies-ni ... -candyman/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls564380047/
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mightysparks wrote: February 16th, 2023, 9:29 am Still slowly working my way through the lists. I'm about 2/3 done (~1000 to go). It's exhausting but I'm keen to do an update this year and see how the new weighting system works out. I found a few duplicate lists which are now gone and a lot of lists had updates. I've added the last few lists mentioned in here and some others and added to the OP.
:thumbsup: looking forward to the update...curious whether it will help or hinder my efforts to (finally) complete the list!
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peeptoad wrote: February 23rd, 2023, 1:12 pm
mightysparks wrote: February 16th, 2023, 9:29 am Still slowly working my way through the lists. I'm about 2/3 done (~1000 to go). It's exhausting but I'm keen to do an update this year and see how the new weighting system works out. I found a few duplicate lists which are now gone and a lot of lists had updates. I've added the last few lists mentioned in here and some others and added to the OP.
:thumbsup: looking forward to the update...curious whether it will help or hinder my efforts to (finally) complete the list!
Hard to know how it’s gonna look until I actually re-weight the files and run the program but I’m hoping for a bit of a shake-up in the bottom half. Probably won’t be massive but I guess we’ll see.

I have about 600 lists to finish checking now :circle:
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mightysparks wrote: February 23rd, 2023, 1:50 pm Hard to know how it’s gonna look until I actually re-weight the files and run the program but I’m hoping for a bit of a shake-up in the bottom half. Probably won’t be massive but I guess we’ll see.
If some of the (seemingly) endless ANOES and F13 sequels get dropped then my efforts will be less (probably both literally and psychologically!) ... I won't hold my breath. Any change will be good change.
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peeptoad wrote: February 23rd, 2023, 2:43 pm
mightysparks wrote: February 23rd, 2023, 1:50 pm Hard to know how it’s gonna look until I actually re-weight the files and run the program but I’m hoping for a bit of a shake-up in the bottom half. Probably won’t be massive but I guess we’ll see.
If some of the (seemingly) endless ANOES and F13 sequels get dropped then my efforts will be less (probably both literally and psychologically!) ... I won't hold my breath. Any change will be good change.
All of the ANOES films are masterpieces though :whistling:
F13 not so much
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I've finished going through all the lists woohoo! Boring part over. I found a way to bulk rename all files which means instead of taking me possibly weeks it will take a couple of minutes. Next up will be testing the new system and tweaking the weightings until I find a nice balance.
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As a project, I took a close look at the current list and my own Top 1000 and was surprised to find only about 75% of your Top 300 is even in my 1000. You would expect difficulty filling a list of 1000 titles from any genre, so that much variance surprises me. One obvious difference is my own list is ongoing, which is just another reason to anticipate your update. Your most recent entry is from 2019 and I have 46 films from this decade. Then there are the titles I find extremely overrated, such as...
Friday the 13th (1980)
Phantasm (1979)
High Tension (2003)
The Howling (1981)
Cemetery Man (1994)
The Old Dark House (1932)
The Unknown (1927)
White Zombie (1932)
Cannibal Holocaust (1980)
Session 9 (2001)

I can easily defend that there are 1000 (and more) better Horror movie than the above titles, though I see how some of these are considered culturally important to the genre. My biggest titles not included in TSZDT...
The Ninth Configuration (1980)
Arsenic and Old Lace (1943)
Perfume: The Story of a Murderer (2006)
De vierde man (1983)
The Beguiled (1971)

Their exclusion is mostly because they fall into a gray area of being not 100% Horror, but the main list has many similar examples like M and Manhunter.
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1SO wrote: March 12th, 2023, 7:30 pm Friday the 13th (1980)
Phantasm (1979)
High Tension (2003)
The Howling (1981)
(...)
Cannibal Holocaust (1980)
Session 9 (2001)
Holy hell, you wouldn't include F13 in a Horror Top 300(!)? Bold move, and I'm not a fan. The relevance can't be stressed enough.
I agree with the inclusion of all of the above in the upper half of the canon.
I disagree with the inclusion of basically all of your counter-examples, simply because they're deeep in the gray area.

In the end, it's not mighty's personal favlist (who knows how many she dislikes from the highest ranks), and if a gigantic neuronal network hivemind of horror librarians from the internet "decide" that High Tension is a cool (or at least important, cited-enough) horror movie and The Beguiled doesn't come to their minds often enough - then so be it.
Twisting with the formula enough to make one movie appear or another disappear will have disastrous consequences in every direction, anyways :sweat:
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btw, I personally believe we live in great times for the horror genre - which might sound paradoxical as tropes are rehashed and done again and again, but who cares? Not me! And I also believe that TSZDT is overstuffed with archaic museum horror from the 1930s & 1940s, or at least they're too high ranked. Making post-1980 titles overtake a few of them and having 2020s enter will be pretty satisfying for me .. and sad for others. :P
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I see 1960 as the Big Bang for Horror movies. Only 170 of my titles come from before then, which shows how little value I place in watching a film for cultural significance.

Friday the 13th rode in on the backs of artistic achievements and showed how much money there was to be made from great marketing with little talent or effort.

I don't see one list as being better than the other, but the two lists work well in harmony, with my personal 1000 showing how many more great titles can be taken in with a broader definition of the Genre. We broaden out each in our own way. For example, we both have The Nightmare Before Christmas and Coraline, which takes Horror elements to make family entertainment, but I also have Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit and not Hocus Pocus.
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I could easily replace half the list with better films but eh I'm not the one deciding lol. It's frustrating when I see crap in there when there are a lot of great films floating around in the 1000-1200 area that just don't appear on enough good source lists/all time lists but I could probably justify at least 90% of the list's inclusions based on their popularity/importance/whatever.

In other news the other day I finished fixing and tidying up the current lists--I discovered a few lists had duplicate films, usually accidentally putting Dawn of the Dead and Night of the Living dead in there twice instead of their respective remakes. Also deleted maybe 20 duplicate lists while going through everything. I've been experimenting with different weightings and values in the scoring file but haven't settled on anything yet. Currently it looks like there will be about 150 new films but I'm not sure peeptoad will be that happy about the films not leaving the list :turned:

Also made all the best of 2021 and 2022 lists and made a list of 2020s films ranked purely on number of votes: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tszd ... htysparks/
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It will be interesting to see how the updated list shakes out and where it will put me in the rankings. At the moment, I am 104 films away from the Top 500. The next highest number is the Cahier's Annual Top 10 list where I am 18 away from the Top 500, but will reach that by the end of the month thanks to the Sight and Sound Challenge. I suspect that the update will put me further back in the standings, but we'll see.
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This should finish off the lists currently in the OP:

Remaining lists from the OP:

Let's Eat Cake's Kate Santos' The 25 Best Horror Movies Of All Time, No Questions Asked (2023) (unranked)
https://www.letseatcake.com/best-horror ... -all-time/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls569529012/

Movieweb's Alex Arabian's 13 Scariest and Most Important Horror Movies of All Time (2022) (ranked)
https://movieweb.com/scariest-important-horror-movies/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls569529043/

Pinkvilla's Sejal Jakhwal's 12 best horror movies of all time (2022) (unranked)
https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment ... es-1061461
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls569529504/

Shudder's The 101 Scariest Horror Movie Moments of All Time (2022) (ranked)
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/shud ... sreynolds/

Siachen Studios' Shraddha Sisodiya's 20 Best Horror Movies That Will Give You Goosebumps (2021) (unranked. seems like it's ranked but they just sorted the films according to IMDb rating)
https://siachenstudios.com/list/best-ho ... -all-time/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls569549909/

Slant Magazine's The 20 Best Zombie Movies of All Time (2022) (ranked)
https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/the- ... -all-time/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls569549962/

Stanley Wiater's Disturbo 13 - The Most Disturbing Horror Films Ever Made (1992) (the original essay isn't available, but several sources reprint these rankings, and one source I found online says it is unranked)
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls000982737/

Taste of Cinema's Guillermo de Querol's The 20 Best Horror Movies of All Time (2022) (ranked)
https://www.tasteofcinema.com/2022/the- ... -all-time/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls569549983/

The Bingeful's Adenaya Damilola's 13 Best Teenage Horror Movies (2022) (unranked)
https://thebingeful.com/best-teenage-horror-movies/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls569549854/

WhatCulture's Paul Steventon's 15 Greatest Horror Movie Comedies (2022) (unranked - it's in chronological order)
https://whatculture.com/film/15-greates ... e-comedies
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls569549819/

Lists not on the OP:

Dread Central's Ygraine Hackett-Cantabrana's The 15 Best Irish Horror Movies to Watch This March (2023) (unranked)
https://www.dreadcentral.com/editorials ... his-march/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls569549826/
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mightysparks wrote: April 18th, 2014, 11:20 am To see which lists I've used, see this link.
btw you might want to delete the only user comment on that page :|
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Torgo wrote: March 19th, 2023, 12:29 am
mightysparks wrote: April 18th, 2014, 11:20 am To see which lists I've used, see this link.
btw you might want to delete the only user comment on that page :|
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I haven’t logged into the site in ages so I’ll have to do some comment moderation :( usually the spam filter does a good job.
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Wow I think it got hacked or something because this was added to the intro 'so get your TV and a 55 inch tv stand with mount so you can be prepared to watch them comfortably' with a link to some spam :/ ugh. I need to change hosts at some point too because I can't update the php version and the site is also really slow.

Edit: Contacted support and got the PHP updated and fixed up some issues. Seems good now :)
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mightysparks wrote: March 19th, 2023, 2:41 am Edit: Contacted support and got the PHP updated and fixed up some issues. Seems good now :)
I can't seem to check out the source lists in the Source tab. I tried refreshing the page but it does nothing for me.

Anyways, a final push for the asian region:

The China Project's 10 best Chinese-language horror movies of the 21st century
The Smart Local's 24 Best Korean Horror Movies Even The Faint-Hearted Can’t Resist Watching
Timeout Bangkok 18 scariest Thai horror movies you need to watch
Otaku Kart's 50 Best South Korean Horror Movies Of All Time
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dirty_score wrote: March 19th, 2023, 11:23 am
mightysparks wrote: March 19th, 2023, 2:41 am Edit: Contacted support and got the PHP updated and fixed up some issues. Seems good now :)
I can't seem to check out the source lists in the Source tab. I tried refreshing the page but it does nothing for me.

Anyways, a final push for the asian region:

The China Project's 10 best Chinese-language horror movies of the 21st century
The Smart Local's 24 Best Korean Horror Movies Even The Faint-Hearted Can’t Resist Watching
Timeout Bangkok 18 scariest Thai horror movies you need to watch
Otaku Kart's 50 Best South Korean Horror Movies Of All Time
It loads fine for me :shrug:

And thanks for the lists :cheers:
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I tried loading the sources page on my phone and it won’t load :/ it works fine on pc. I’m already in bed but I’ll have a look at it tomorrow.
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mightysparks wrote: March 12th, 2023, 10:25 pm Currently it looks like there will be about 150 new films but I'm not sure peeptoad will be that happy about the films not leaving the list :turned:
:P yeah, all those franchise sequels and their intensive, cultural significance... :pinch: I suppose I'll suffer through them eventually.

The 2020s film list looks great though; hopefully lots of those are included in the update as I have only seen a measly 38/294 so far. :thumbsup:
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