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New Years Eve Tradition: Personal Top 100 Greatest Films of All Time

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New Years Eve Tradition: Personal Top 100 Greatest Films of All Time

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There was this tradition on my native (RIP) film-board. It was quite rewarding for me, both in helping to explore the depths of cinema and discovering new favorites. The premise is that you contribute a list consisting of 100 entries that you consider to be the greatest of all time. You must have seen the films before the year 2021. These are personal lists, but that did not stop endless discussion about the possibility of objectivity some years. :lol: The stated purpose was to see how your taste evolves over the years. This is not a poll.

Happy New Year! :party: :cheers:

My 2020 List.

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1. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (Murnau, 1927)
2. La chute de la maison Usher (Epstein, 1928)
3. La passion de Jeanne d'Arc (Dreyer, 1928)
4. Chelovek s kino-apparatom (Vertov, 1929)

5. Zemlya (Dovzhenko, 1930)
6. Limite (Peixoto, 1931)
7. L' Atalante (Vigo, 1934)
8. La grande illusion (Renoir, 1937)

9. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
10. Boerensymfonie (Delattre & Storck, 1944)
11. Unter den Brücken (Käutner, 1946)
12. Letter From an Unknown Woman (Ophüls, 1948)
13. Banshun + Bakushû + Tōkyō monogatari (Ozu, 1949-53)

14. Rashōmon (Kurosawa, 1950)
15. Journal d'un curé de campagne (Bresson, 1951)
16. Le salaire de la peur (Clouzot, 1953)
17. Ugetsu monogatari (Mizoguchi, 1953)
18. Sanshō Dayū (Mizoguchi, 1954)
19. Shichinin no samurai (Kurosawa, 1954)
20. All That Heaven Allows (Sirk, 1955)
21. Nogiku no gotoki kimi nariki (Kinoshita, 1955)
22. Pather Panchali + Aparajito + Apur Sansar (Ray, 1955-59)
23. Soshun (Ozu, 1956)
24. Un condamné à mort s'est échappé ou Le vent souffle où il veut (Bresson, 1956)
25. Letyat zhuravli (Kalatozov, 1957)
26. Anticipation of the Night (Brakhage, 1958)
27. Ballada o soldate (Chukhray, 1959)
28. Hiroshima mon amour (Resnais, 1959)
29. Ningen no Jōken (Kobayashi, 1959-61)

30. Hadaka no shima (Shindo, 1960)
31. L' année dernière à Marienbad (Resnais, 1961)
32. Die Parallelstraße (Khittl, 1962)
33. Lawrence of Arabia (Lean, 1962)
34. Dog Star Man (Brakhage, 1964)
35. Soy Cuba (Kalatozov, 1964)
36. Suna no Onna (Teshigahara, 1964)
37. Rapture (Guillermin, 1965)
38. The Flicker (Conrad, 1965)
39. Tini zabutykh predkiv (Parajanov, 1965)
40. Andrei Rublyov (Tarkovsky, 1966)
41. Au hasard Balthazar (Bresson, 1966)
42. Kočár do Vídně (Kachyňa, 1966)
43. Persona (Bergman, 1966)
44. Sedmikrásky (Chytilová, 1966)
45. Tobenai chinmoku (Kuroki, 1966)
46. Play Time (Tati, 1967)
47. Wavelength (Snow, 1967)
48. Week End (Godard, 1967)
49. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)
50. Faces (Cassavetes, 1968)
51. Le révélateur (Garrel, 1968)
52. Erosu purasu Gyakusatsu + Rengoku eroica + Kaigenrei (Yoshida, 1969-73)
53. Sayat Nova (Parajanov, 1969)
54. Walden (Mekas, 1969)

55. Ice (Kramer, 1970)
56. Mujō (Jissoji, 1970)
57. The Hart of London (Chambers, 1970)
58. Zorns Lemma (Frampton, 1970)
59. La région centrale (Snow, 1971)
60. Quatre nuits d'un rêveur(Bresson, 1971)
61. Shura (Matsumoto, 1971)
62. Utvandrarna + Nybyggarna (Troell, 1971-72)
63. Den-en ni shisu (Terayama, 1974)
64. Je, tu, il, elle (Akerman, 1974)
65. Un homme qui dort (Queysanne, 1974)
66. India Song (Duras, 1975)
67. Jeanne Dielman, 23, Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (Akerman, 1975)
68. Welfare (Wiseman, 1975)
69. Zerkalo (Tarkovsky, 1975)
70. Ziemia obiecana (Wajda, 1975)
71. Lost, Lost, Lost (Mekas, 1976)
72. Eraserhead (Lynch, 1977)
73. Le diable probablement (Bresson, 1977)
74. News From Home (Akerman, 1977)
75. Stalker (Tarkovsky, 1979)

76. Doro no Kawa (Oguri, 1981)
77. Koyaanisqatsi (Reggio, 1982)
78. Dans la ville blanche (Tanner, 1983)
79. Prénom Carmen (Godard, 1983)
80. Sans soleil (Marker, 1983)
81. Klassenverhältnisse (Straub & Huillet, 1984)
82. Shoah (Lanzmann, 1985)
83. 1000nen kizami no hidokei: Magino mura monogatari (Ogawa, 1987)
84. Khane-ye doust kodjast? + Zendegi va digar hich + Zire darakhatan zeyton (Kiarostami, 1987-94)
85. Nostos: Il ritorno (Piavoli, 1989)

86. I Hired a Contract Killer (Kaurismäki, 1990)
87. Nema-ye Nazdik (Kiarostami, 1990)
88. D'est (Akerman, 1993)
89. Sátántangó (Tarr, 1994)
90. Dong (Tsai, 1998)

91. As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty (Mekas, 2000)
92. Fa yeung nin wa (Wong, 2000)
93. No Quarto da Vanda (Costa, 2000)
94. Sånger från andra våningen (Andersson, 2000)
95. 13 Lakes + Ten Skies (Benning, 2004)
96. Casting a Glance (Benning, 2007)
97. Double Tide (Lockhart, 2009)
98. Trees of Syntax, Leaves of Axis (Saïto, 2009)

99. Leviathan (Paravel & Castaing-Taylor, 2012)
100. Homo Sapiens (Geyrhalter, 2016)
TBT: My 2010 List

Spoiler
1. Körkarlen (Sjöström, 1921)
2. Our Hospitality (Keaton, 1923)
3. Sherlock Jr. (Keaton, 1924)
4. Metropolis (Lang, 1927)
5. Sunrise (Murnau, 1927)

6. Le sang d'un poète (Cocteau, 1930)
7. M (Fritz Lang, 1931)
8. Boudu sauvé des eaux (Renoir, 1932)
9. A Night at the Opera (Wood, 1935)
10. Modern Times (Charles Chaplin, 1936)
11. La grande illusion ( Renoir, 1937)
12. Le Jour se lève (Carné, 1939)
13. La Règle du jeu (Renoir, 1939)
14. Zangiku monogatari (Mizoguchi, 1939)

15. The Great Dictator (Chaplin, 1940)
16. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
17. Ossessione (Visconti, 1943)
18. Vredens dag (Dreyer, 1943)
19. Les Enfants du paradis (Carné, 1945)
20. Black Narcissus (Powell & Pressburger, 1947)
21. Ladri di biciclette (De Sica, 1948)
22. Rope (Hitchcock, 1948)
23. Begone Dull Care (McLaren, 1949)

24. Flicka och hyacinter (Ekman, 1950)
25. Rashōmon (Kurosawa, 1950)
26. Hakuchi (Kurosawa, 1951)
27. Repast (Naruse, 1951)
28. Ikiru (Akira Kurosawa, 1952)
29. Umberto D. (De Sica, 1952)
30. Le salaire de la peur (Clouzot, 1953)
31. Patty (Preminger, 1953)
32. Sommaren med Monika (Bergman, 1953)
33. Tōkyō monogatari (Ozu, 1953)
34. Ugetsu monogatari (Mizoguchi, 1953)
35. Chikamatsu Monogatari (Mizoguchi, 1954)
36. Dial M for Murder (Hitchcock, 1954)
37. Rear Window (Hitchcock, 1954)
38. Sanshō Dayū (Mizoguchi, 1954)
39. Shichinin no samurai (Kurosawa, 1954)
40. All That Heaven Allows (Sirk, 1955)
41. Ordet (Dreyer, 1955)
42. Pather Panchali (Ray, 1955)
43. Rebel Without a Cause (Nicholas Ray, 1955)
44. The Man with the Golden Arm (Preminger, 1955)
45. The Night of the Hunter (Laughton, 1955)
46. Aparajito (Ray, 1956)
47. Un condamné à mort s'est échappé ou Le vent souffle où il veut (Bresson, 1956)
48. Smultronstället (Bergman, 1957)
49. The Bridge on the River Kwai (Lean, 1957)
50. Rear Window (Hitchcock, 1958)
51. Les Quatre Cents Coups (Truffaut, 1959)
52. Pickpocket (Bresson, 1959)
53. Some Like It Hot (Wilder, 1959)

54. Rocco e i suoi fratelli (Visconti, 1960)
55. Peeping Tom (Powell, 1960)
56. L' année dernière à Marienbad (Resnais, 1961)
57. Le Procés (Welles, 1962)
58. Otoshiana (Teshigahara, 1962)
59. Nattvardsgästerna (Bergman, 1963)
60. Vidas Secas (Santos, 1963)
61. Dr. Strangelove (Kubrick, 1964)
62. Gertrud (Dreyer, 1964)
63. Suna no Onna (Teshigahara, 1964)
64. Akahige (Kurosawa, 1965)
65. Lásky jedné plavovlásky (Forman, 1965)
66. Blow-Up (Antonioni, 1966)
67. La muerte de un burócrata (Alea, 1966)
68. Nattlek (Zetterling, 1966)
69. Persona (Bergman, 1966)
70. Tanin no kao (Teshigahara, 1966)
71. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (Leone, 1966)
72. Playtime (Tati, 1967)
73. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)

74. Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes (Herzog, 1972)
75. Barry Lyndon (Kubrick, 1975)
76. Zerkalo (Tarkovsky, 1975)
77. Stalker (Tarkovsky, 1979)

78. Fanny och Alexander (Bergman, 1982)
79. Nostalghia (Tarkovsky, 1983)
80. Offret (Tarkovsky, 1986)
81. Varjoja paratiisissa (Kaurismäki, 1986)
82. Cobra Verde (Herzog, 1987)
83. Khane-ye doust kodjast? (Kiarostami, 1987)
84. Chocolat (Denis, 1988)
85. Dekalog (Kieslowski, 1988-89)
86. Do the Right Thing (Lee, 1989)

87. Tulitikkutehtaan tyttö (Kaurismäki, 1990)
88. Riget (Trier, 1994-97)
89. Kauas pilvet karkaavat (Kaurismäki, 1996)
90. Festen (Vinterberg, 1998)
91. Pi (Aronofsky, 1998)
92. Beau travail (Denis, 1999)

93. Requiem for a Dream (Aronofsky, 2000)
94. Le fils (Dardenne, 2002)
95. Mies vailla menneisyyttä (Kaurismäki, 2002)
96. L'Intrus (Denis, 2004)
97. Sud pralad (Weerasethakul, 2004)
98. Sang sattawat (Weerasethakul, 2006)
99. Du levande (Andersson, 2007)
100. 35 Rhums (Denis, 2008)
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Do you need advice for the 2010s or are you telling us this is the worst decade of films in history ? :P

You are cheating with these trilogies but here is a serious question: are Rengoku eroica and Kaigenrei really as good as Erosu purasu gyakusatsu, which is in my own top ?
My own (90) top with chronogical sorting
1927 La glace à trois faces ( Jean Epstein )
1927 Metropolis ( Fritz Lang )

1930 All Quiet on the Western Front ( Lewis Milestone )
1934 Les misérables ( Raymond Bernard )
1936 Modern Times ( Charles Chaplin )

1942 Casablanca ( Michael Curtiz )
1943 The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp ( Michael Powell, Emeric Pressburger )
1947 Black Narcissus ( Michael Powell, Emeric Pressburger )

1951 A Streetcar Named Desire ( Elia Kazan )
1954 Rear Window ( Alfred Hitchcock )
1955 Du rififi chez les hommes ( Jules Dassin )
1956 Le ballon rouge ( Albert Lamorisse )
1957 Kumonosu-jô ( Akira Kurosawa )
1957 Det sjunde inseglet ( Ingmar Bergman )
1959 North by Northwest ( Alfred Hitchcock )

1960 Plein soleil ( René Clément )
1960 La vérité ( Henri-Georges Clouzot )
1962 Cape Fear ( J. Lee Thompson )
1962 Seppuku ( Masaki Kobayashi )
1962 Ivanovo detstvo ( Eduard Abalov, Andrei Tarkovsky )
1962 Lawrence of Arabia ( David Lean )
1962 El ángel exterminador ( Luis Buñuel )
1962 Le procès ( Orson Welles )
1963 Le feu follet ( Louis Malle )
1964 Kaidan ( Masaki Kobayashi )
1964 Suna no onna ( Hiroshi Teshigahara )
1965 Rapture ( John Guillermin )
1967 Week End ( Jean-Luc Godard )
1969 Sayat Nova ( Sergei Parajanov )
1969 Al-ard ( Youssef Chahine )
1969 L'armée des ombres ( Jean-Pierre Melville )
1969 Erosu purasu gyakusatsu ( Yoshishige Yoshida )
1969 Ma nuit chez Maud ( Éric Rohmer )
1969 Fellini - Satyricon ( Federico Fellini )

1970 El Topo ( Alejandro Jodorowsky )
1972 Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes ( Werner Herzog )
1972 The Godfather ( Francis Ford Coppola )
1972 Jeremiah Johnson ( Sydney Pollack )
1973 El espíritu de la colmena ( Víctor Erice )
1973 La planète sauvage ( René Laloux )
1974 Un homme qui dort ( Bernard Queysanne )
1979 Alien ( Ridley Scott )
1979 Apocalypse Now ( Francis Ford Coppola )
1979 Manhattan ( Woody Allen )

1980 The Elephant Man ( David Lynch )
1982 Pink Floyd: The Wall ( Alan Parker )
1983 Scarface ( Brian De Palma )
1985 After Hours ( Martin Scorsese )
1985 Ran ( Akira Kurosawa )
1985 Idi i smotri ( Elem Klimov )
1986 À l'ombre de la canaille bleue ( Pierre Clémenti )
1986 Dao ma zei ( Zhuangzhuang Tian, Peicheng Pan )
1986 Kong bu fen zi ( Edward Yang )
1987 Przypadek ( Krzysztof Kieslowski )
1987 Full Metal Jacket ( Stanley Kubrick )
1987 Is-slottet ( Per Blom )

1990 Goodfellas ( Martin Scorsese )
1991 La Belle Noiseuse ( Jacques Rivette )
1991 Bian zou bian chang ( Kaige Chen )
1993 The Age of Innocence ( Martin Scorsese )
1993 The Piano ( Jane Campion )
1993 Trois couleurs: Bleu ( Krzysztof Kieslowski )
1996 Comment je me suis disputé... (ma vie sexuelle) ( Arnaud Desplechin )
1996 Sling Blade ( Billy Bob Thornton )
1997 Lost Highway ( David Lynch )
1997 Hana-bi ( Takeshi Kitano )
1997 Mononoke-hime ( Hayao Miyazaki )
1998 Central do Brasil ( Walter Salles )
1999 Titus ( Julie Taymor )

2000 Trolösa ( Liv Ullmann )
2001 Nirgendwo in Afrika ( Caroline Link )
2001 Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi ( Hayao Miyazaki )
2001 Donnie Darko ( Richard Kelly )
2002 Lilja 4-ever ( Lukas Moodysson )
2003 La meglio gioventù ( Marco Tullio Giordana )
2003 Los Angeles Plays Itself ( Thom Andersen )
2004 Sud pralad ( Apichatpong Weerasethakul )
2004 Million Dollar Baby ( Clint Eastwood )
2005 Va, vis et deviens ( Radu Mihaileanu )
2007 The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford ( Andrew Dominik )
2008 Synecdoche, New York ( Charlie Kaufman )
2008 The Dark Knight ( Christopher Nolan )
2009 Un prophète ( Jacques Audiard )

2010 Jûsan-nin no shikaku ( Takashi Miike )
2011 Faust ( Aleksandr Sokurov )
2011 The Tree of Life ( Terrence Malick )
2014 Picasso, l'inventaire d'une vie ( Hugues Nancy )
2014 Interstellar ( Christopher Nolan )
2015 Trois souvenirs de ma jeunesse ( Arnaud Desplechin )
2018 Diqiu zuihou de yewan ( Bi Gan )
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I just made a top 100 the other day. I don't feel like typing it all out, so here's the Letterboxd list. Note that I did not see Once Upon a Time in the West until after compiling the list, or it might rank as high as #9 or 10.
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My Top 100:
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x [-D1] Avalon (2001)
x [-D1] Enter the Void (2009)
x [-D1] Honey PuPu [Xiao Shi Da Kan] (2011)
x [-B2] Dolls (2002)
x [-D1] Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence [Kôkaku Kidôtai 2: Inosensu] (2004)
x [-D1] Tokyo.Sora (2002)
x [-D1] Dead Leaves (2004)
x [-D1] Umfeld (2007)
x [-D1] Tetsuo: The Iron Man (1989)
x [-D1] Reconstruction (2003)
x [-B4] Helter Skelter [Herutâ Sukerutâ] (2012)
x [-D1] Genius Party Beyond (2008)
x [-D1] Symbol [Shinboru] (2009)
x [-D1] Angel's Egg [Tenshi no Tamago] (1985)
x [ ] Mirrored Mind [Kyoshin] (2005)
x [-D1] Patlabor 2 [Kidô Keisatsu Patorebâ: The Movie 2] (1993)
x [-B5] Promare (2019)
x [-D1] Ritual [Shiki-Jitsu] (2000)
x [-D1] Survive Style 5+ (2004)
x [-B5] The Limit of Sleeping Beauty [Rimitto Obu Suripingu Byuti] (2017)
x [-D1] Eden Log (2007)
x [-D1] Jin Roh: The Wolf Brigade [Jin-Rô] (1999)
x [-D1] Irréversible (2002)
x [ ] Blessing Bell [Kôfuku no Kane] (2002)
x [-D1] Tekkonkinkreet [Tekkon Kinkurîto] (2006)
x [-D1] Grave of the Fireflies [Hotaru no Haka] (1988)
x [-D1] The Red Spectacles [Jigoku no Banken: Akai Megane] (1987)
x [-D1] My Neighbors the Yamadas [Hôhokekyo Tonari no Yamada-kun] (1999)
x [-B2] Redline (2009)
x [-D1] Su-ki-da (2005)
x [-D1] Vital (2004)
x [-D1] Big Bang Love, Juvenile A [46-Okunen no Koi] (2006)
x [---] Mary and Max (2009)
x [-D1] Tsuburo no Gara (2004)
x [-D1] Vinyan (2008)
x [-D1] Talking Head (1992)
x [-D1] Rampo Noir [Rampo Jigoku] (2005)
x [-D1] Pop Skull (2007)
x [-D1] Pi (1998)
x [-D1] Visitor Q [Bijitâ Q] (2001)
x [-D1] Allegro (2005)
x [ ] Rabbits (2002)
x [-D1] Petal Dance [Petaru Dansu] (2013)
x [-D5] Skins [Pieles] (2017)
x [-D1] Ghost in the Shell [Kôkaku Kidôtai] (1995)
x [-B1] Antiporno [Anchiporuno] (2016)
x [-B2] Short Peace [Shoto Pisu] (2013)
x [-B4] Yakuza Apocalypse [Gokudou Daisensou] (2015)
x [-B2] Colonel Panics (2016)
x [ ] Children of the Sea [Kaijû no Kodomo] (2019)
x [-B1] Kizumonogatari I: Tekketsu-hen (2016)
x [-B1] Tag [Riaru Onigokko] (2015)
x [-D1] Godkiller (2010)
x [-D1] Blowfish [Hetun] (2011)
x [-D2] Electric Dragon 80000V (2001)
x [ ] Monday (2000)
x [-B4] The Grandmaster [Yi Dai Zong Shi] (2013)
x [-M3] That's It [Soredake] (2015)
x [-B4] Hells [Heruzu Enjueruzu] (2008)
x [ ] High & Low: The Movie 2 - End of Sky (2017)
x [ ] Hot Gimmick: Girl Meets Boy [Hotto Gimikku: Garu Mitsu Boi] (2019)
x [-D5] Beautiful Crazy [Luan Qing Chun] (2008)
x [-D2] The Fourth Portrait [Di Si Zhang Hua] (2010)
x [-B1] The Whispering Star [Hiso Hiso Boshi] (2015)
x [-D1] Lee's Adventure [Li Xian Ji Li Xian Ji] (2011)
x [-B2] Tokyo Tribe (2014)
x [-M3] Hardcore Henry (2015)
x [-B4] Beyond the Black Rainbow (2010)
x [-D7] The Land of Cards [Tasher Desh] (2012)
x [-D6] Miss Zombie (2013)
x [-D1] Calvaire (2004)
x [ ] Chiwawa [Chiwawa-san] (2019)
x [ ] Diner [Dainâ] (2019)
x [-D1] My Neighbor Totoro [Tonari no Totoro] (1988)
x [-B1] Ruined Heart [Pusong Wazak!] (2014)
x [ ] Paris Is Us [Paris Est à Nous) (2019)
x [-D6] The World of Kanako [Kawaki] (2014)
x [-D2] The Taste of Tea [Cha no Aji] (2004)
x [-B4] Gravity (2013)
x [-B2] Blame! (2017)
x [-D1] Martyrs (2008)
x [-D1] Ex Drummer (2007)
x [---] 5 Centimeters per Second [Byôsoku 5 Senchimêtoru] (2007)
x [-D1] 2046 (2004)
x [-B4] Starry Starry Night [Xing Kong] (2011)
x [---] Inside [À l'Intérieur] (2007)
x [-D1] Any Way the Wind Blows (2003)
x [-B1] Big Fish and Begonia [Dayu Haitang] (2016)
x [-D2] Gozu [Gokudô Kyôfu Dai-gekijô: Gozu] (2003)
x [-D1] Sparrow [Man Jeuk] (2008)
x [-B4] The Tenants Downstairs [Lou Xia De Fang Ke] (2016)
x [-B1] Soul [Shi Hun] (2013)
x [-D1] The Clone Returns Home [Kurôn wa Kokyô wo Mezasu] (2008)
x [-D4] Lost River (2014)
x [-B2] Kikujiro [Kikujirô no Natsu] (1999)
x [-B4] Moebius [Moi-bi-woo-seu] (2013)
x [ ] The Day of Destruction [Hakai no Hi] (2020)
x [-B5] Swiss Army Man (2016)
x [-B2] Fireworks [Hana-Bi] (1997)
x [-D2] Gamer (2009)
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Onder you are missing so much by not considering older films. But many people won’t watch old films and that is a pity.
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Cippenham wrote: December 31st, 2020, 11:53 pm But many people won’t watch old films and that is a pity.
He does.
Are you sure you want to hear his opinion on them? :D
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hurluberlu wrote: December 31st, 2020, 7:06 pm Do you need advice for the 2010s or are you telling us this is the worst decade of films in history ? :P

You are cheating with these trilogies but here is a serious question: are Rengoku eroica and Kaigenrei really as good as Erosu purasu gyakusatsu, which is in my own top ?
My own (90) top with chronogical sorting
1927 La glace à trois faces ( Jean Epstein )
1927 Metropolis ( Fritz Lang )

1930 All Quiet on the Western Front ( Lewis Milestone )
1934 Les misérables ( Raymond Bernard )
1936 Modern Times ( Charles Chaplin )

1942 Casablanca ( Michael Curtiz )
1943 The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp ( Michael Powell, Emeric Pressburger )
1947 Black Narcissus ( Michael Powell, Emeric Pressburger )

1951 A Streetcar Named Desire ( Elia Kazan )
1954 Rear Window ( Alfred Hitchcock )
1955 Du rififi chez les hommes ( Jules Dassin )
1956 Le ballon rouge ( Albert Lamorisse )
1957 Kumonosu-jô ( Akira Kurosawa )
1957 Det sjunde inseglet ( Ingmar Bergman )
1959 North by Northwest ( Alfred Hitchcock )

1960 Plein soleil ( René Clément )
1960 La vérité ( Henri-Georges Clouzot )
1962 Cape Fear ( J. Lee Thompson )
1962 Seppuku ( Masaki Kobayashi )
1962 Ivanovo detstvo ( Eduard Abalov, Andrei Tarkovsky )
1962 Lawrence of Arabia ( David Lean )
1962 El ángel exterminador ( Luis Buñuel )
1962 Le procès ( Orson Welles )
1963 Le feu follet ( Louis Malle )
1964 Kaidan ( Masaki Kobayashi )
1964 Suna no onna ( Hiroshi Teshigahara )
1965 Rapture ( John Guillermin )
1967 Week End ( Jean-Luc Godard )
1969 Sayat Nova ( Sergei Parajanov )
1969 Al-ard ( Youssef Chahine )
1969 L'armée des ombres ( Jean-Pierre Melville )
1969 Erosu purasu gyakusatsu ( Yoshishige Yoshida )
1969 Ma nuit chez Maud ( Éric Rohmer )
1969 Fellini - Satyricon ( Federico Fellini )

1970 El Topo ( Alejandro Jodorowsky )
1972 Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes ( Werner Herzog )
1972 The Godfather ( Francis Ford Coppola )
1972 Jeremiah Johnson ( Sydney Pollack )
1973 El espíritu de la colmena ( Víctor Erice )
1973 La planète sauvage ( René Laloux )
1974 Un homme qui dort ( Bernard Queysanne )
1979 Alien ( Ridley Scott )
1979 Apocalypse Now ( Francis Ford Coppola )
1979 Manhattan ( Woody Allen )

1980 The Elephant Man ( David Lynch )
1982 Pink Floyd: The Wall ( Alan Parker )
1983 Scarface ( Brian De Palma )
1985 After Hours ( Martin Scorsese )
1985 Ran ( Akira Kurosawa )
1985 Idi i smotri ( Elem Klimov )
1986 À l'ombre de la canaille bleue ( Pierre Clémenti )
1986 Dao ma zei ( Zhuangzhuang Tian, Peicheng Pan )
1986 Kong bu fen zi ( Edward Yang )
1987 Przypadek ( Krzysztof Kieslowski )
1987 Full Metal Jacket ( Stanley Kubrick )
1987 Is-slottet ( Per Blom )

1990 Goodfellas ( Martin Scorsese )
1991 La Belle Noiseuse ( Jacques Rivette )
1991 Bian zou bian chang ( Kaige Chen )
1993 The Age of Innocence ( Martin Scorsese )
1993 The Piano ( Jane Campion )
1993 Trois couleurs: Bleu ( Krzysztof Kieslowski )
1996 Comment je me suis disputé... (ma vie sexuelle) ( Arnaud Desplechin )
1996 Sling Blade ( Billy Bob Thornton )
1997 Lost Highway ( David Lynch )
1997 Hana-bi ( Takeshi Kitano )
1997 Mononoke-hime ( Hayao Miyazaki )
1998 Central do Brasil ( Walter Salles )
1999 Titus ( Julie Taymor )

2000 Trolösa ( Liv Ullmann )
2001 Nirgendwo in Afrika ( Caroline Link )
2001 Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi ( Hayao Miyazaki )
2001 Donnie Darko ( Richard Kelly )
2002 Lilja 4-ever ( Lukas Moodysson )
2003 La meglio gioventù ( Marco Tullio Giordana )
2003 Los Angeles Plays Itself ( Thom Andersen )
2004 Sud pralad ( Apichatpong Weerasethakul )
2004 Million Dollar Baby ( Clint Eastwood )
2005 Va, vis et deviens ( Radu Mihaileanu )
2007 The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford ( Andrew Dominik )
2008 Synecdoche, New York ( Charlie Kaufman )
2008 The Dark Knight ( Christopher Nolan )
2009 Un prophète ( Jacques Audiard )

2010 Jûsan-nin no shikaku ( Takashi Miike )
2011 Faust ( Aleksandr Sokurov )
2011 The Tree of Life ( Terrence Malick )
2014 Picasso, l'inventaire d'une vie ( Hugues Nancy )
2014 Interstellar ( Christopher Nolan )
2015 Trois souvenirs de ma jeunesse ( Arnaud Desplechin )
2018 Diqiu zuihou de yewan ( Bi Gan )
Heading for some champagne and foie gras, happy new year !
I could maybe have included Small Roads, but that's about it. I focus more on classics I suppose.

I'd say that Heroic Purgatory is on the same level (almost) as Eros Plus Massacre. The last film in the trilogy is admittedly weaker.
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kongs_speech wrote: December 31st, 2020, 9:39 pm I just made a top 100 the other day. I don't feel like typing it all out, so here's the Letterboxd list. Note that I did not see Once Upon a Time in the West until after compiling the list, or it might rank as high as #9 or 10.
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I remember enjoying watching Con Air on VHS-tape. Those were the days. :guns: Fun to see the underrated Gold Diggers of 1933 feature prominently on a list. B)
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Onderhond wrote: December 31st, 2020, 11:10 pm My Top 100:
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x [-D1] Avalon (2001)
x [-D1] Enter the Void (2009)
x [-D1] Honey PuPu [Xiao Shi Da Kan] (2011)
x [-B2] Dolls (2002)
x [-D1] Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence [Kôkaku Kidôtai 2: Inosensu] (2004)
x [-D1] Tokyo.Sora (2002)
x [-D1] Dead Leaves (2004)
x [-D1] Umfeld (2007)
x [-D1] Tetsuo: The Iron Man (1989)
x [-D1] Reconstruction (2003)
x [-B4] Helter Skelter [Herutâ Sukerutâ] (2012)
x [-D1] Genius Party Beyond (2008)
x [-D1] Symbol [Shinboru] (2009)
x [-D1] Angel's Egg [Tenshi no Tamago] (1985)
x [ ] Mirrored Mind [Kyoshin] (2005)
x [-D1] Patlabor 2 [Kidô Keisatsu Patorebâ: The Movie 2] (1993)
x [-B5] Promare (2019)
x [-D1] Ritual [Shiki-Jitsu] (2000)
x [-D1] Survive Style 5+ (2004)
x [-B5] The Limit of Sleeping Beauty [Rimitto Obu Suripingu Byuti] (2017)
x [-D1] Eden Log (2007)
x [-D1] Jin Roh: The Wolf Brigade [Jin-Rô] (1999)
x [-D1] Irréversible (2002)
x [ ] Blessing Bell [Kôfuku no Kane] (2002)
x [-D1] Tekkonkinkreet [Tekkon Kinkurîto] (2006)
x [-D1] Grave of the Fireflies [Hotaru no Haka] (1988)
x [-D1] The Red Spectacles [Jigoku no Banken: Akai Megane] (1987)
x [-D1] My Neighbors the Yamadas [Hôhokekyo Tonari no Yamada-kun] (1999)
x [-B2] Redline (2009)
x [-D1] Su-ki-da (2005)
x [-D1] Vital (2004)
x [-D1] Big Bang Love, Juvenile A [46-Okunen no Koi] (2006)
x [---] Mary and Max (2009)
x [-D1] Tsuburo no Gara (2004)
x [-D1] Vinyan (2008)
x [-D1] Talking Head (1992)
x [-D1] Rampo Noir [Rampo Jigoku] (2005)
x [-D1] Pop Skull (2007)
x [-D1] Pi (1998)
x [-D1] Visitor Q [Bijitâ Q] (2001)
x [-D1] Allegro (2005)
x [ ] Rabbits (2002)
x [-D1] Petal Dance [Petaru Dansu] (2013)
x [-D5] Skins [Pieles] (2017)
x [-D1] Ghost in the Shell [Kôkaku Kidôtai] (1995)
x [-B1] Antiporno [Anchiporuno] (2016)
x [-B2] Short Peace [Shoto Pisu] (2013)
x [-B4] Yakuza Apocalypse [Gokudou Daisensou] (2015)
x [-B2] Colonel Panics (2016)
x [ ] Children of the Sea [Kaijû no Kodomo] (2019)
x [-B1] Kizumonogatari I: Tekketsu-hen (2016)
x [-B1] Tag [Riaru Onigokko] (2015)
x [-D1] Godkiller (2010)
x [-D1] Blowfish [Hetun] (2011)
x [-D2] Electric Dragon 80000V (2001)
x [ ] Monday (2000)
x [-B4] The Grandmaster [Yi Dai Zong Shi] (2013)
x [-M3] That's It [Soredake] (2015)
x [-B4] Hells [Heruzu Enjueruzu] (2008)
x [ ] High & Low: The Movie 2 - End of Sky (2017)
x [ ] Hot Gimmick: Girl Meets Boy [Hotto Gimikku: Garu Mitsu Boi] (2019)
x [-D5] Beautiful Crazy [Luan Qing Chun] (2008)
x [-D2] The Fourth Portrait [Di Si Zhang Hua] (2010)
x [-B1] The Whispering Star [Hiso Hiso Boshi] (2015)
x [-D1] Lee's Adventure [Li Xian Ji Li Xian Ji] (2011)
x [-B2] Tokyo Tribe (2014)
x [-M3] Hardcore Henry (2015)
x [-B4] Beyond the Black Rainbow (2010)
x [-D7] The Land of Cards [Tasher Desh] (2012)
x [-D6] Miss Zombie (2013)
x [-D1] Calvaire (2004)
x [ ] Chiwawa [Chiwawa-san] (2019)
x [ ] Diner [Dainâ] (2019)
x [-D1] My Neighbor Totoro [Tonari no Totoro] (1988)
x [-B1] Ruined Heart [Pusong Wazak!] (2014)
x [ ] Paris Is Us [Paris Est à Nous) (2019)
x [-D6] The World of Kanako [Kawaki] (2014)
x [-D2] The Taste of Tea [Cha no Aji] (2004)
x [-B4] Gravity (2013)
x [-B2] Blame! (2017)
x [-D1] Martyrs (2008)
x [-D1] Ex Drummer (2007)
x [---] 5 Centimeters per Second [Byôsoku 5 Senchimêtoru] (2007)
x [-D1] 2046 (2004)
x [-B4] Starry Starry Night [Xing Kong] (2011)
x [---] Inside [À l'Intérieur] (2007)
x [-D1] Any Way the Wind Blows (2003)
x [-B1] Big Fish and Begonia [Dayu Haitang] (2016)
x [-D2] Gozu [Gokudô Kyôfu Dai-gekijô: Gozu] (2003)
x [-D1] Sparrow [Man Jeuk] (2008)
x [-B4] The Tenants Downstairs [Lou Xia De Fang Ke] (2016)
x [-B1] Soul [Shi Hun] (2013)
x [-D1] The Clone Returns Home [Kurôn wa Kokyô wo Mezasu] (2008)
x [-D4] Lost River (2014)
x [-B2] Kikujiro [Kikujirô no Natsu] (1999)
x [-B4] Moebius [Moi-bi-woo-seu] (2013)
x [ ] The Day of Destruction [Hakai no Hi] (2020)
x [-B5] Swiss Army Man (2016)
x [-B2] Fireworks [Hana-Bi] (1997)
x [-D2] Gamer (2009)
This is the most intensely specific list ever created! Always fun with idiosyncratic lists! We have 0 % affinity between our lists. :o
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Cippenham wrote: December 31st, 2020, 11:53 pm Onder you are missing so much by not considering older films. But many people won’t watch old films and that is a pity.
Not sure where this is coming from. I've watched 600 pre-1970 films now. It's not that I'm not watching them, it's that I'm not liking them.
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Dolwphin wrote: January 1st, 2021, 1:40 am This is the most intensely specific list ever created! Always fun with idiosyncratic lists! We have 0 % affinity between our lists. :o
Well, I have In The Mood For Love on 262.

The Hole and Songs from the Second Floor are yet unlisted (so 650+) and I also have Stalker on 8/10, though I don't think that rating will hold up on revision.
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Fair enough Onder. 😀
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Onderhond wrote: January 1st, 2021, 9:10 am
Dolwphin wrote: January 1st, 2021, 1:40 am This is the most intensely specific list ever created! Always fun with idiosyncratic lists! We have 0 % affinity between our lists. :o
Well, I have In The Mood For Love on 262.

The Hole and Songs from the Second Floor are yet unlisted (so 650+) and I also have Stalker on 8/10, though I don't think that rating will hold up on revision.
In The Mood for Love. (l)

I don't know what "old" films you could possible include that is compatible with your current list of favorites. There was this extreme (not compared to you) user on my native board with an Asian-centric list which started in 1958. Maybe one of those:

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Enjo // Ichikawa, 1958
Narayama Bushiko // Kinoshita, 1958

Hadaka no Shima // Shindo, 1960
Hakujitsumu // Takechi, 1964
Kawaita hana // Shinoda, 1964
Les Parapluies de Cherbourg // Demy, 1964
Onibaba // Shindo, 1964
Soy Cuba // Kalatozishvili, 1964
Suna no Onna // Teshigahara, 1964
Yunbogi no nikki // Oshima, 1965
Da zui xia // Hu, 1966
Repulsion // Polanski, 1966
Tanin no kao // Teshigahara, 1966
Tobenai chinmoku // Kuroki, 1966
Jag är nyfiken - gul // Sjöman, 1967
Koroshi no rakuin // Suzuki, 1967
Hatsukoi Jigokuhen // Hani, 1968
Kamigami no fukaki yokubô // Imamura, 1968
Kemeko's Love // Kuri, 1968
Shinjuku dorobô nikki // Oshima, 1968
Tsuburekakatta migime no tame ni // Matsumoto, 1968
Bara no sôretsu // Matsumoto, 1969
Mujin rettô // Kanai, 1969
Kyôsô jôshi-kô // Wakamatsu, 1969
Ryakushō: renzoku shasatsuma // Adachi, 1969
Yuke Yuke Nidome no Shojo // Wakamatsu, 1969
Xia nü // Hu, 1969

Mujō // Jissoji, 1970
Rengoku eroica // Yoshida, 1970
Tôkyô sensô sengo hiwa // Oshima, 1970
Valerie a týden divů // Jires, 1970
Mandara // Jissoji, 1971
Sho o suteyo machi e deyô // Terayama, 1971
Chungyo // Kim KY, 1972
Gozenchû no jikanwari // Hani, 1972
Joshû sasori: Dai-41 zakkyo-bô // Ito, 1972
Tenshi no kôkotsu // Wakamatsu, 1972
Kanashimi no Belladonna // E Yamamoto, 1973
La planète sauvage // Laloux, 1973
Chôfuku-ki // Terayama, 1974
Den-en ni shisu // Terayama, 1974
Zerkalo // Tarkovski, 1975
India Song // Duras, 1975
Hausu // Obayashi, 1977
Iodo // Kim KY, 1977
What does e.g. [D1] or [B2] mean on your list by the way?
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Dolwphin wrote: January 1st, 2021, 6:00 pm I don't know what "old" films you could possible include that is compatible with your current list of favorites. There was this extreme (not compared to you) user on my native board with an Asian-centric list which started in 1958. Maybe one of those:
Yuke Yuke Nidome no Shojo // Wakamatsu, 1969 -> I have this at 4* too, but not listed (so 650+).
These are my pre-1970 3.5* and higher. Not a long list, not sure there's much consistency there, but I like films that have somehow remained fresh after all these years. And with a strong focus on style, narrative doesn't interest me as much.
Dolwphin wrote: January 1st, 2021, 6:00 pm What does e.g. [D1] or [B2] mean on your list by the way?
Haha, oops. Copied my toplist right out of my master file it seems. The first 'x' means I reviewed the film ('-' means I haven't yet, but since it's a top 100 there's none of those). [ ] means I don't own the film, [---] means it's in my girlfriend's collection and [-DX], [-BX] and [-MX] refers to my own catalogue system (D = DVD shelves, B = BluRay shelves, M = mixed shelves).
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Onderhond wrote: January 1st, 2021, 11:02 pm
Dolwphin wrote: January 1st, 2021, 6:00 pm I don't know what "old" films you could possible include that is compatible with your current list of favorites. There was this extreme (not compared to you) user on my native board with an Asian-centric list which started in 1958. Maybe one of those:
Yuke Yuke Nidome no Shojo // Wakamatsu, 1969 -> I have this at 4* too, but not listed (so 650+).
These are my pre-1970 3.5* and higher. Not a long list, not sure there's much consistency there, but I like films that have somehow remained fresh after all these years. And with a strong focus on style, narrative doesn't interest me as much.
I also prefer style over narrative. My chronological bias seems to be 1950s, 1960s & 1970s.

Good to see that two favorites --- Daisies & Cranes Are Flying -- is not completely rejected.

Book-marked some of your favorites that looked interesting to me: Enter the Void, Irréversible, Dolls, Kikujiro. Hana-bi, 2046, Antiporno, Tokyo.Sora. Most of your favorites seems to be animation and blockbusters (e.g. Gravity) which is not really my cup of tea.
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Given the purported objective of the thread, I am curious about whether there has been any self-analysis of how one's taste has changed over time, and what the reasons may be?
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cinewest wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 6:45 am Given the purported objective of the thread, I am curious about whether there has been any self-analysis of how one's taste has changed over time, and what the reasons may be?
I don't think so. It was more about posting cool lists for the fun of it. :P

Two biggest factors in forming my taste was probably Film Studies and frequenting different film-boards. The first provided the tools of understanding, thus expanding what you could truly appreciate and be entertained by, and the second highlighted specific films one probably would not have seen otherwise. I remember Trees of Syntax, Leaves of Axis being one such "Mafia" entry on my native board. I remember certain directors, e.g. Bresson, became quite prominent on that board. That's why I even decided to see A Man Escaped, despite 3rd insisting that it was required to have studied cinema critically for 6 years before doing so, and it was certainly an unforgettable experience. Your taste obviously become a product of your environment.
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Dolwphin wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 6:32 am Good to see that two favorites --- Daisies & Cranes Are Flying -- is not completely rejected.
I just watched Daises one or two weeks ago. There was a lot of joy in that film, something I don't often see in films with high official check counts on ICM. It's been quite a while since I've watched The Cranes are Flying, I mostly remember liking the first part of it more than the second part. Some stunning cinematography in that one, which reminds me that I still need to see I Am Cuba.
Dolwphin wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 6:32 amMost of your favorites seems to be animation
Undoubtedly. It tends to give a directors full visual freedom, which is something I love. I understand it's not for everyone though.
Dolwphin wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 6:32 amand blockbusters (e.g. Gravity).
Ehhh. One swallow does not a summer make. I have a couple of them in my list of favorites, but they're rather the exception than the rule. Gravity stood out because it's probably the closest to the overview effect I'll ever come. Not sure if still effective seeing it at home without 3D goggles.

I'd say my sweet spot is where genre and auteur meet, with a tendency to prefer new over old. That hasn't really changed throughout the years to be honest, my changes in taste have been more about what I like in the fringes.
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Onderhond wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 8:52 am
Dolwphin wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 6:32 am Good to see that two favorites --- Daisies & Cranes Are Flying -- is not completely rejected.
I just watched Daises one or two weeks ago. There was a lot of joy in that film, something I don't often see in films with high official check counts on ICM. It's been quite a while since I've watched The Cranes are Flying, I mostly remember liking the first part of it more than the second part. Some stunning cinematography in that one, which reminds me that I still need to see I Am Cuba.
Dolwphin wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 6:32 amMost of your favorites seems to be animation
Undoubtedly. It tends to give a directors full visual freedom, which is something I love. I understand it's not for everyone though.
Dolwphin wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 6:32 amand blockbusters (e.g. Gravity).
Ehhh. One swallow does not a summer make. I have a couple of them in my list of favorites, but they're rather the exception than the rule. Gravity stood out because it's probably the closest to the overview effect I'll ever come. Not sure if still effective seeing it at home without 3D goggles.

I'd say my sweet spot is where genre and auteur meet, with a tendency to prefer new over old. That hasn't really changed throughout the years to be honest, my changes in taste have been more about what I like in the fringes.
2001 on 70mm was perhaps my greatest cinematic experience ever. In comparison Gravity, even in 3D, seems very meh and uninspiring.

Yes I did see a few auteur genre filmmakers in your list. I could probably enjoy some of those as well.
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cinewest wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 6:45 am Given the purported objective of the thread, I am curious about whether there has been any self-analysis of how one's taste has changed over time, and what the reasons may be?
For me, it's easy: I'm less easily impressed by auteur, arthouse and non-popular cinema than I was in my beginning days of love for film. That looks to be quite the opposite for most so-called cineasts. After having seen enough of typical festival films (Cannes, Venice for example) you just see as many similarities as with "mainstream films", clichés of their own. Now I'm happiest with things that keep an somehow entertaining, not too pretentious formula, but still achieve something individual, unique or poignant, with some simpler and some more daring works in between. Maybe it will bounce back again, who knows.
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Torgo wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 6:16 pm
cinewest wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 6:45 am Given the purported objective of the thread, I am curious about whether there has been any self-analysis of how one's taste has changed over time, and what the reasons may be?
For me, it's easy: I'm less easily impressed by auteur, arthouse and non-popular cinema than I was in my beginning days of love for film. That looks to be quite the opposite for most so-called cineasts. After having seen enough of typical festival films (Cannes, Venice for example) you just see as many similarities as with "mainstream films", clichés of their own. Now I'm happiest with things that keep an somehow entertaining, not too pretentious formula, but still achieve something individual, unique or poignant, with some simpler and some more daring works in between. Maybe it will bounce back again, who knows.
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Dolwphin wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 2:58 pm 2001 on 70mm was perhaps my greatest cinematic experience ever. In comparison Gravity, even in 3D, seems very meh and uninspiring.
I've seen 2001 twice now. Don't think I'll appreciate it more on a big screen and with that score blearing out of some decent speakers. I fear for the worst :D
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2001 in IMAX blew my fucking mind.
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Dolwphin wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 7:56 am
cinewest wrote: January 2nd, 2021, 6:45 am Given the purported objective of the thread, I am curious about whether there has been any self-analysis of how one's taste has changed over time, and what the reasons may be?
I don't think so. It was more about posting cool lists for the fun of it. :P

Two biggest factors in forming my taste was probably Film Studies and frequenting different film-boards. The first provided the tools of understanding, thus expanding what you could truly appreciate and be entertained by, and the second highlighted specific films one probably would not have seen otherwise. I remember Trees of Syntax, Leaves of Axis being one such "Mafia" entry on my native board. I remember certain directors, e.g. Bresson, became quite prominent on that board. That's why I even decided to see A Man Escaped, despite 3rd insisting that it was required to have studied cinema critically for 6 years before doing so, and it was certainly an unforgettable experience. Your taste obviously become a product of your environment.
Yes, my own film taste has changed pretty much according to the way I have over the years, largely due to my own experiences, awakenings, explorations, and development (knowledge incorporated), etc. I wouldn't say that it is necessary to study cinema "critically" in order to appreciate it, but I would say that one's taste probably reflects the nature of one's interest in the medium.

I often compare my taste in film to my taste in food, which has also changed over the years, and while I still eat some of the same kinds of things I did 30 years ago, I tend to be a lot more discriminating about the ingredients and how they have been prepared.
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The Birth of a Nation (1915, D.W. Griffith)

La passion de Jeanne d'Arc (1928, Carl Theodor Dreyer)

Limite (1931, Mario Peixoto)
Le sang d'un poète (1932, Jean Cocteau)

Ivan Groznyy (1944, Sergei M. Eisenstein)
Partie de campagne (1946, Jean Renoir)
Unter den Brücken (1946, Helmut Käutner)
Une si jolie petite plage (1949, Yves Allégret)
Le sorcier du ciel (1949, Marcel Blistène)

Rashômon (1950, Akira Kurosawa)
Tôkyô monogatari (1953, Yasujiro Ozu)
Suzaki Paradaisu: Akashingô (1956, Yuzo Kawashima)
Ila Ayn (1957, Georges Nasser)

Devi (1960, Satyajit Ray)
Banditi a Orgosolo (1961, Vittorio de Seta)
Le procès (1962, Orson Welles)
Seppuku (1962, Masaki Kobayashi)
Le feu follet (1963, Louis Malle)
Le Mépris (1963, Jean-Luc Godard)
Suna no onna (1964, Hiroshi Teshigahara)
Soy Cuba (1964, Mikhail Kalatozov)
Obchod na korze (1965, Elmar Klos & Jan Kadar)
Andrey Rublyov (1966, Andrei Tarkovsky)
Blow-Up (1966, Michelangelo Antonioni)
Mademoiselle (1966, Tony Richardson)
Un uomo a metà (1966, Vittorio de Seta)
Elvira Madigan (1967, Bo Widerberg)
Marketa Lazarova (1967, Frantisek Vlacil)
Midaregumo (1967, Mikio Naruse)
Oi voskoi (1967, Nikos Papatakis)
Teorema (1968, Pier Paolo Pasolini)
Ma nuit chez Maud (1969, Eric Rohmer)
Sayat nova (1969, Sergei Parajanov)
Struktura krysztalu (1969, Krzysztof Zanussi)

...ere erera baleibu izik subua aruaren... (1970, José Antonio Sistiaga)
A Clockwork Orange (1971, Stanley Kubrick)
Punishment Park (1971, Peter Watkins)
Le cousin Jules (1972, Dominique Benicheti)
Ankur (1974, Shyam Benegal)
A Woman Under the Influence (1974, John Cassavetes)
Un homme qui dort (1974, Bernard Queysanne)
Dersu Uzala (1975, Akira Kurosawa)
Maynila sa mga kuko ng liwanag (1975, Lino Brocka)
Chinesisches Roulette (1976, Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
L'hypothèse du tableau volé (1978, Raoul Ruiz)

Aus dem Leben der Marionetten (1980, Ingmar Bergman)
El nido (1980, Jaime de Armiñan)
Féherlofia (1981, Marcell Jankovics)
L'ange (1982, Patrick Bokanowski)
Nostalghia (1983, Andrei Tarkovsky)
Une femme en Afrique (1985, Raymond Depardon)
Sans toit ni loi (1985, Agnès Varda)
I Love Dollars (1986, Johan van der Keuken)
Mauvais sang (1986, Leos Carax)
Khane-ye doust kodjast? (1987, Abbas Kiarostami)
Karhozat (1988, Béla Tarr)
Stan posiadania (1989, Krzysztof Zanussi)

La belle noiseuse (1991, Jacques Rivette)
La double vie de Véronique (1991, Krzysztof Kieslowski)
Europa (1991, Lars von Trier)
Il ladro di bambini (1992, Gianni Amelio)
Qiu Ju da guan si (1992, Yimou Zhang)
Naked (1993, Mike Leigh)
Samt el qusur (1994, Moufida Tlatli)
Satantango (1994, Béla Tarr)
Mondo (1995, Tony Gatlif)
Nun va Goldoon (1996, Mohsen Makhmalbaf)
Conte d'été (1996, Eric Rohmer)
Secret défense (1998, Jacques Rivette)
Bakha satang (1999, Chang-dong Lee)
Like a Dream that Vanishes (1999, Barbara Sternberg)
Rosetta (1999, Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne)

Les glaneurs et la glaneuse (2000, Agnès Varda)
Werckmeister harmoniak (2000, Béla Tarr & Agnès Hranitzky)
Respiro (2002, Emanuele Crialese)
Uzak (2002, Nuri Bilge Ceylan)
Dogville (2003, Lars von Trier)
Histoire de Marie et Julien (2003, Jacques Rivette)
Vozvrashchenie (2003, Andrey Zvyagintsev)
Yella (2007, Christian Petzold)
Delta (2008, Kornel Mundruczo)
Alle anderen (2009, Maren Ade)
Keshtzar haye sepid (2009, Mohammad Rasoulof)

Another Year (2010, Mike Leigh)
Les films rêvés (2010, Eric Pauwels)
Jodaeiye Nader az Simin (2010, Asghar Farhadi)
Shi (2010, Chang-dong Lee)
We Need to Talk About Kevin (2011, Lynne Ramsay)
Cesare deve morire (2012, Paolo & Vittorio Taviani)
Holy Motors (2012, Leos Carax)
V tumane (2012, Sergei Loznitsa)
Hypnosis Display (2014, Paul Clipson)
Kis Uykusu (2014, Nuri Bilge Ceylan)
Mula sa kung ano ang noon (2014, Lav Diaz)
Un rêve solaire (2016, Patrick Bokanowski)
Beoning (2018, Chang-dong Lee)
Lazzaro felice (2018, Alice Rohrwacher)
Gisaengching (2019, Joon-ho Bong)
Longa noite (2019, Eloy Enciso)

Beginning (2020, Dea Kulumbegashvili)
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I have a top 100 from 2015 on my IMDb profile so I thought I'd offer the two with 2015 as a comparison to now, with a commentary. Dol, I notice that you have no British films at all in that top list, that's quite an achievement, personally I regard UK as the third place in top production nations, after US and France. That is unless we count 2001 ASO, which has the UK as a major claim to be the most contributing nation (personally I consider such films to be in a "Transatlantic" category). I would expect that sort of behaviour from a French person, though I see Pitch has managed to squeeze a Mike Leigh film in :lol: Why have I noticed this? I've been busy for a while constructing a canon of British movies, and have really upped my efforts in the last couple of weeks.

Major changes in mine are,

(1) removing movies where animals were harmed, this has taken Heaven's Gate from top 20 material to not in my top 1000, due to it unfortunately being a poster child for actual animal violence, literally comes up in articles on the subject of "animals WERE harmed", ditto Andrei Rublev, a film where Tarkovsky felt he had the right to deliberately murder a horse, and trumped up the pathetic excuse that he had taken the horse from the slaughterhouse so the horse would have died anyway. Newsflash, you don't get to dispose of someone's life just because you saved it. P'tit Quinquin is gone, well I think I just ran out of patience with Dumont, plus his cow corpse motif is just really weird, I can't find any documentation of exactly what was done to animals here, but there's a random callousness to it that I overlooked at the time, but can't any more. Touki Bouki, another film with many marvels but just has a very gratuitous slaughterhouse scene.

(2) removal of sugar rush decisions. I watched Guerra's Embrace of the Serpent in 2015 at the Leeds Film Festival, and published this list shortly after. I think it's a pretty minor film, but the last shot of the movie was very impressive on the big screen. The Moon in The Gutter, sure a second tier Cinema du Look, but not top 100 material. Specter of the Rose, hehe needs a rewatch but feels very precipitous of me to have entered that in my top 100, it's definitely an unfiltered movie from the id with absurdly florid dialogue, it's actually on Amazon Prime now so I might give it a watch in higher def and write a review, definitely need to figure out how this ended up in my top 100. Maybe anti-grav levels of suspension of disbelief will kick in. Santiago's Invasion? Very sprawling incoherent work, with some mood for sure, I should have re-watched on MUBI in 2021. The Face of an Angel, good though not top 100 material, will we ever really understand what happened in that apartment in Perugia, Guede maintains his innocence having served the sentence out, and working in a criminology library is consistent with innocence; it is all very strange, and deffo was some Karen behaviour from Knox at minimum

(3) new watches, 49 of the movies in the 2023 list were watched since 2015. This is not exactly surprising to me as my top list is not one of those lists that appears to be a subset of the S&S polls or TSPDT top 1000, there will be continued discoveries for me from outside of the canon.
2015
Les Maîtres du temps (1982 - René Laloux)
Le soulier de satin / The Satin Slipper (1985 - Manoel de Oliveira)
America, America (1963 - Elia Kazan)
Faraon / Pharaoh (1966 - Jerzy Kawalerowicz)
L'Éden et Après / Eden and After (1970 - Alain Robbe-Grillet)
Cesarée (1978 - Marguerite Duras)
Gymnopedies (1965 - Larry Jordan)
Les enfants du paradis / Children of Paradise (1945 - Marcel Carné)
P'tit Quinquin (2014 - Bruno Dumont)
Vertigo (1958 - Alfred Hitchcock)
Madame Bovary (1991 - Claude Chabrol)
The Spiral Staircase (1945 - Robert Siodmak)
Amer (2009 - Hélène Cattet & Bruno Forzani)
Obitateli / Inhabitants (1970 - Artavazd Peleshian)
Meshes of the Afternoon (1943 - Maya Deren & Alexander Hammid)
The Pumpkin Eater (1964 - Jack Clayton)
Heaven's Gate (1980 - Michael Cimino)
Obsluhoval jsem anglického krále / I Served the King of England (2006 - Jirí Menzel)
The Bat Whispers (1930 - Roland West)
La nuit fantastique / The Fantastic Night (1942 - Marcel L'Herbier)
Shutter Island (2010 - Martin Scorsese)
Fünf Patronenhülsen / Five Cartridges (1960 - Frank Beyer)
Deadfall (1968 - Bryan Forbes)
Au coeur de la vie / In the Midst of Life (1963 - Robert Enrico)
Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975 - Peter Weir)
Trois couleurs: Bleu / Three Colours Blue (1993 - Krzysztov Kieslowski)
El abrazo de la serpiente / Embrace of the Serpent (2015 - Ciro Guerra)
Under The Skin (2013 - Jonathan Glazer)
Club de femmes (1936 - Jacques Deval)
Les grandes manoeuvres (1955 - René Clair)
Accattone (1961 - Pier Paolo Pasolini)
Eyes Wide Shut (1999 - Stanley Kubrick)
Parsifal (1982 - Hans-Jürgen Syberberg)
Brutal Ardour (1978 - Manuel Huerga)
A Farewell to Arms (1932 - Frank Borzage)
Dai-bosatsu tôge / Sword of Doom (1966 - Kihachi Okamoto)
9 dney odnogo goda / Nine Days of One Year (1962 - Mikhail Romm)
Konets vechnosti / The End of Eternity (1987 - Andrei Yermash)
Byzantium (2012 - Neil Jordan)
The Sand Pebbles (1966 - Robert Wise)
Tenshi no tamago / Angel's Egg (1985 - Mamoru Oshii)
Medea (1988 - Lars von Trier)
Army of Darkness (1992 - Sam Raimi)
Possible Worlds (2000 - Robert Lepage)
Andrei Rublev (1966 - Andrei Tarkovsky)
Ferdinand the Bull (1938 - Dick Rickard)
Altair (1995 - Lewis Klahr)
Die Parallelstrasse / The Parallel Street (1962 - Ferdinand Khittl)
Hadewijch (2009 - Bruno Dumont)
The Pharaoh's Belt (1993 - Lewis Klahr)
Les mains négatives (1978 - Marguerite Duras)
Moderato cantabile (1960 - Peter Brook)
Winter (2008 - Nathaniel Dorsky)
For a Few Dollars More (1965 - Sergio Leone)
The Good the Bad and the Ugly (1966 - Sergio Leone)
Le grand jeu / The great game (1934 - Jacques Feyder)
A Canterbury Tale (1944 - Michael Powell)
Natural Born Killers (1994 - Oliver Stone)
Krysar / The Pied Piper of Hamelin (1986 - Jirí Barta)
La lune dans le caniveau / The Moon in the Gutter (1983 - Jean-Jacques Beineix)
Entezar / Waiting (1974 - Amir Naderi)
The Big Parade (1925 - King Vidor & George W. Hill) with the score by Carl Davis
Lucifer Rising (1972 - Kenneth Anger)
Camille (1936 - George Cukor)
Another Sky (1954 - Gavin Lambert)
A Day in the Death of Joe Egg (1972 - Peter Medak)
Liquid Sky (1982 - Slava Tsukerman)
Hours for Jerome (1982 - Nathaniel Dorsky)
Kachagebi, tavi VII / Brigands, chapter VII (1996 - Otar Iosseliani)
Homo Faber (1991 - Volker Schlöndorff)
The History of Mr. Polly (1949 - Anthony Pelissier)
Il mistero di Oberwald / The Mystery of Oberwald (1980 - Michaelangelo Antonioni)
Abbott and Costello Meet the Killer, Boris Karloff (1949 - Charles Barton)
The Belly of an Architect (1987 - Peter Greenaway)
L'Uccello dalle piume di cristallo / The Bird With Crystal Plumage (1970 - Dario Argento)
O Pintor e a Cidade / The Artist and the City (1956 - Manoel de Oliveira)
Kaos (1984 - Paolo & Vittorio Taviani)
The Scalphunters (1968 - Sydney Pollack)
The Keep (1983 - Michael Mann)
Skorbnoye beschuvstviye / Anaesthesia Psychica Dolorosa / Heartbreak House (1987 - Aleksandr Sokurov)
Cube (1997 - Vincenzo Natali)
Touki Bouki (1973 - Djibril Diop Mambéty)
Jûjiro / Shadows of the Yoshiwara (1928 - Teinosuke Kinugasa) accompanied by Matthew Bourne and the Birdman of Alkijazz
Tess (1979 - Roman Polanski)
Staré povesti ceské / Old Czech Legends (1953 - Jirí Trnka)
Mauvais sang / The Night is Young (1986 - Leos Carax)
Gandahar (1988 - René Laloux)
Duelle (une quarantaine) (1976 - Jacques Rivette)
Specter of the Rose (1946 - Ben Hecht)
Kárhozat / Damnation (1988 - Béla Tarr)
Csillagosok, katonák / The Red and the White (1967 - Miklós Jancsó)
Seconds (1966 - John Frankenheimer)
Orlando (1992 - Sally Potter)
Inside Llewyn Davis (2013 - Joel and Ethan Coen)
Sílení / Lunacy (2005 - Jan Svankmajer)
Cremaster 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 (1996, 1999, 2002, 1995 & 1997 - Matthew Barney)
Maska (2010 - Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay)
The Face of an Angel (2014 - Michael Winterbottom)
Invásion (1969 - Hugo Santiago)
Una lucertola con la pelle di donna / Lizard in a woman's skin (1971 - Lucio Fulci)
2023
Le soulier de satin / The Satin Slipper (1985 - Manoel de Oliveira)
Limite (1931 - Mario Peixoto)
Les enfants du paradis / Children of Paradise (1945 - Marcel Carné)
Les Maîtres du temps / Time Masters (1982 - René Laloux)
Fanny och Alexander / Fanny and Alexander (1983 - Ingmar Bergman) TV Version
The Tree of Life (2011 - Terrence Malick)
Panique au village / A Town Called Panic (2009 - Stéphane Aubier & Vincent Patar)
The Last Picture Show (1971 - Peter Bogdanovich)
Il deserto dei tartari / The Desert of the Tartars (1976 - Valerio Zurlini)
Odd Man Out (1947 - Carol Reed)
The Spiral Staircase (1946 - Robert Siodmak)
Êxtase / Ecstasy (2020 - Moara Passoni)
Viskningar och rop / Cries and Whispers (1972 - Ingmar Bergman)
The Saga of Anatahan (1953 - Josef von Sternberg)
America, America (1963 - Elia Kazan)
Club de femmes (1936 - Jacques Deval)
大菩薩峠 / Dai-bosatsu tôge / Sword of Doom (1966 - Kihachi Okamoto)
Хрусталёв, машину! / Khrustalyov, mashinu! / Khrustalyov, My Car! (1998 - Aleksey German)
Nostos: Il ritorno / Nostos: The Return (1989 - Franco Piavoli)
Gymnopedies (1965 - Larry Jordan)
Cesarée (1978 - Marguerite Duras)
დასაწყისი / Dasatskisi / Beginning (2020 - Dea Kulumbegashvili)
Per qualche dollaro in più / For a Few Dollars More (1965 - Sergio Leone)
Footsteps in the Fog (1955 - Arthur Lubin)
Alaya (1987 - Nathaniel Dorsky)
Meshes of the Afternoon (1943 - Maya Deren & Alexander Hammid)
Deadfall (1968 - Bryan Forbes)
The Pumpkin Eater (1964 - Jack Clayton)
Ferdinand the Bull (1938 - Dick Rickard)
天使のたまご / Tenshi no tamago / Angel's Egg (1985 - Mamoru Oshii)
Noroît (1976 - Jacques Rivette)
Quelque part quelqu'un / Somewhere, Someone (1972 - Yannick Bellon)
Peau d'âne / Once Upon a Time (1970 - Jacques Demy)
Na srebrnym globie / On the Silver Globe (1988 - Andrzej Zulawski)
La nuit fantastique / The Fantastic Night (1942 - Marcel L'Herbier)
Malmkrog / Manor House (2020 - Cristi Puiu)
Vertigo (1958 - Alfred Hitchcock)
The Fanny Trilogy - Marius, Fanny, César (1931, 1932 & 1936 - Alexander Korda, Marc Allégret & Marcel Pagnol)
Gone with the Wind (1939 - Victor Fleming, George Cukor & Sam Wood)
Csillagosok, katonák / The Red and the White (1967 - Miklós Jancsó)
Trois couleurs: Bleu / Three Colours Blue (1993 - Krzysztov Kieslowski)
Jauja (2014 - Lisandro Alonso)
Shutter Island (2010 - Martin Scorsese)
La double vie de Véronique / The Double Life of Véronique (1991 - Krzysztov Kieslowski)
Krysar / The Pied Piper of Hamelin (1986 - Jirí Barta)
Fünf Patronenhülsen / Five Cartridges (1960 - Frank Beyer)
The Immortal Story (1968 - Orson Welles)
L'armée des ombres / Army of Shadows (1969 - Jean-Pierre Melville)
Eyes Wide Shut (1999 - Stanley Kubrick)
Au coeur de la vie / In the Midst of Life (1963 - Robert Enrico)
Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975 - Peter Weir)
The Secret of Kells (2009 - Tomm Moore & Nora Twomey)
A Pál utcai fiúk / The Boys of Paul Street (1968 - Zoltán Fábri)
Trys Dienos / Three Days (1991 - Sharunas Bartas)
Liquid Sky (1982 - Slava Tsukerman)
Patterns (1956 - Fielder Cook)
King of New York (1990 - Abel Ferrara)
L'année dernière à Marienbad / Last year at Marienbad (1961 - Alain Resnais)
À l'ombre de la canaille bleue / In the Shadow of the Blue Rascal (1986 - Pierre Clémenti)
Gwen, le livre de sable / Gwen, the Book of Sand (1985 - Jean-François Laguionie)
Monsieur Verdoux (1947 - Charles Chaplin)
Bizalom / Confidence (1980 - István Szabó)
Нежность / Nezhnost / Tenderness (1967 - Elyor Ishmukhamedov)
Le Mepris / Contempt (1963 - Jean-Luc Godard)
Accattone (1961 - Pier Paolo Pasolini)
Smultronstället / Wild Strawberries (1957 - Ingmar Bergman)
Winter (2008 - Nathaniel Dorsky)
Una giornata particolare / A Special Day (1977 - Ettore Scola)
Meandre (1966 - Mircea Saucan)
Camille (1936 - George Cukor)
Dodsworth (1936 - William Wyler)
Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo / The Good the Bad and the Ugly (1966 - Sergio Leone)
A Canterbury Tale (1944 - Michael Powell)
At Sea (2007 - Peter Hutton)
Altair (1995 - Lewis Klahr)
Red Riding (2009 - Julian Jarrold, James Marsh & Anand Tucker)
L'Uccello dalle piume di cristallo / The Bird With Crystal Plumage (1970 - Dario Argento)
Uncut Gems (2019 - Benny Safdie & Josh Safdie)
De helaasheid der dingen / The Misfortunates / The Shittiness of Things (2009 - Felix van Groeningen)
Семнадцать мгновений весны / Semnadtsat mgnoveniy vesny / Seventeen Moments of Spring (1973 - Tatyana Lioznova)
Frost (1997 - Fred Kelemen)
ヱヴァンゲリヲン新劇場版: 破 / Evangerion shin gekijôban: Ha / Evangelion: 2.0 You Can (Not) Advance (2009 - Masayuki, Kazuya Tsurumaki, Hideaki Anno)
Francisca (1981 - Manoel de Oliveira)
On Approval (1944 - Clive Brook)
Vox Lux (2018 - Brady Corbet)
うる星やつら2 ビューティフル・ドリーマー / Urusei Yatsura 2 Byūtifuru Dorīmā / Urusei Yatsura 2: Beautiful Dreamer (1984 - Mamoru Oshii)
Amer (2009 - Hélène Cattet & Bruno Forzani)
Beyond the Black Rainbow (2010 - Panos Cosmatos)
The Liberation of the Mannique Mechanique (1967 - Steven Arnold)
El mar la mar (2017 - Joshua Bonnetta & J.P. Sniadecki)
A Shot in the Dark (1964 - Blake Edwards)
Upstream Color (2013 - Shane Carruth)
Into The Unknown (2009 - Deimantas Narkevičius)
Maska (2010 - Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay)
Les destinées sentimentales / Sentimental Destinies (2000 - Olivier Assayas)
Die Parallelstraße / The Parallel Street (1962 - Ferdinand Khittl)
Marie Antoinette (2006 - Sofia Coppola)
Конец Вечности / Konets vechnosti / The End of Eternity (1987 - Andrei Yermash)
Demonlover (2002 - Olivier Assayas)
The Keep (1983 - Michael Mann)
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Wow, I didn't remember you being such a fan of Chabrol's Bovary Matt. It's on Mubi right now, I watched his other film on their with the Baudelairesque title and enjoyed it but fell asleep before the end. I might check that out, I was very impressed by the book.

Glad La nuit fantastique has kept a high position, that's such a quintessential matthewscott film.

Interesting choice of Evangelion flick, definitely my favorite of the rebuild.

What happened to Labyrinth of Dreams, wasn't that in your top ten not long ago? Or was that a sugar rush?
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matthewscott8 wrote: January 20th, 2023, 9:04 am I would expect that sort of behaviour from a French person, though I see Pitch has managed to squeeze a Mike Leigh film in :lol:
Hey, I have several British movies! (2 Leigh, Ramsay, Richardson, maybe A Clockwork Orange?)

But it's true that I have more films directed by women than American films though. Quite unique.
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pitchorneirda wrote: January 21st, 2023, 12:13 am
matthewscott8 wrote: January 20th, 2023, 9:04 am I would expect that sort of behaviour from a French person, though I see Pitch has managed to squeeze a Mike Leigh film in :lol:
Hey, I have several British movies! (2 Leigh, Ramsay, Richardson, maybe A Clockwork Orange?)

But it's true that I have more films directed by women than American films though. Quite unique.
Blow Up?

Especially odd that one of the exceptions is Birth of a Nation, you don't see that on too many lists these days.

Cool to see Mauvais sang on both your guys' lists, I liked it fine but its real fans seem to really adore it.
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pitchorneirda wrote: January 21st, 2023, 12:13 am
matthewscott8 wrote: January 20th, 2023, 9:04 am I would expect that sort of behaviour from a French person, though I see Pitch has managed to squeeze a Mike Leigh film in :lol:
Hey, I have several British movies! (2 Leigh, Ramsay, Richardson, maybe A Clockwork Orange?)

But it's true that I have more films directed by women than American films though. Quite unique.
I missed the second Leigh (Another Day), which is a fine film for sure. I did find Leigh annoying in the Q&A afterwards though, he muttered that we were a "strange audience" as he stalked out of the cinema afterwards, not loudly, just happened that he was right next to me. I thought that the question that precipitated that comment was perfectly reasonable personally (mists of time have erased the question from my head). That was a helluva day in the cinema, I saw Dolan's Les Amours Imaginaires straight after, which won my heart, the first Dolan film I saw and I'm still waiting for him to surpass it.

The others you mention are international co-productions by my current methodology, ditto Blow-Up which prod mentioned. I have become influenced by Ferg I think, I used to go with director as you are doing. My top 100 British movies list has no co-productions.

I do like your list a lot, and particularly feel warm inside anytime anyone brings up Patrick Bokanowski's L'ange.

It is funny how few American films you have got, I had not noticed. This is very un-French, I thought you guys were meant to be keepers of the sacred flame for US cinema, redeeming cult movies like Johnny Guitar and film noirs. Anyway, I am just being silly.

Also it is frankly very amusing that one of the only 2 American films that I can see, is Punishment Park, which is hypercritical of the country.
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prodigalgodson wrote: January 20th, 2023, 3:10 pm Wow, I didn't remember you being such a fan of Chabrol's Bovary Matt. It's on Mubi right now, I watched his other film on their with the Baudelairesque title and enjoyed it but fell asleep before the end. I might check that out, I was very impressed by the book.

Glad La nuit fantastique has kept a high position, that's such a quintessential matthewscott film.

Interesting choice of Evangelion flick, definitely my favorite of the rebuild.

What happened to Labyrinth of Dreams, wasn't that in your top ten not long ago? Or was that a sugar rush?
Yes you are right, La nuit fantastique, is kind of a signature entry for me, Club de femmes (1936 - Jacques Deval) as well. If the love between me and France were two way I might have gone and lived there, hélas! I have known more than one type of unrequited love dans ma vie! 18 films in total from France in my top list. Les Maîtres du temps / Time Masters (1982 - René Laloux) lit up my childhood, without me even knowing it was a French film, I saw a dub on TV and spent years trying to find out what the film was.

The French still definitely have me on their hook, I saw Celine and Julie go Boating for the first time this weekend, on 35 mil (l)

Labyrinth of Dreams is currently at 150, I think it's mostly just been pushed out by entries inserting above it. Certainly a wondrous film that I'll revisit.

Chabrol's film was my first experience with Bovary. I just think it fit Huppert well as a role, I think it was an exciting casting choice. It sometimes feels to me like Huppert is autistic, no-one else seems to have come to this view (I googled it), but it feels right to me. But an autistic Bovary does seem to be an interesting and fruitful envisioning on the story. Seems to have not sat well with many audiences.
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prodigalgodson wrote: January 21st, 2023, 3:52 am
pitchorneirda wrote: January 21st, 2023, 12:13 am
matthewscott8 wrote: January 20th, 2023, 9:04 am I would expect that sort of behaviour from a French person, though I see Pitch has managed to squeeze a Mike Leigh film in :lol:
Hey, I have several British movies! (2 Leigh, Ramsay, Richardson, maybe A Clockwork Orange?)

But it's true that I have more films directed by women than American films though. Quite unique.
Blow Up?

Especially odd that one of the exceptions is Birth of a Nation, you don't see that on too many lists these days.

Cool to see Mauvais sang on both your guys' lists, I liked it fine but its real fans seem to really adore it.
Blow up I never really counted as British tbh, my definitions are fairly strict, love Antonioni.

Re Mauvais Sang I think there are movies that people that aren't even into cinema respond to, they go crazy for, like Avatar, many of Wong's films, Akira, The Godfather, Evangelion, films that are maximal even world building and correspond to a certain vision of how someone wished their live would have been. People are passionate and want to live passionate lives, but socialization happens, I guess because the world would burst at the seams if everyone lived like that. I think Mauvais Sang is one of those, I'd love to see it on a big screen some time.
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pitchorneirda wrote: January 19th, 2023, 12:56 am The Birth of a Nation (1915, D.W. Griffith)

La passion de Jeanne d'Arc (1928, Carl Theodor Dreyer)

Limite (1931, Mario Peixoto)
Le sang d'un poète (1932, Jean Cocteau)

Ivan Groznyy (1944, Sergei M. Eisenstein)
Partie de campagne (1946, Jean Renoir)
Unter den Brücken (1946, Helmut Käutner)
Une si jolie petite plage (1949, Yves Allégret)
Le sorcier du ciel (1949, Marcel Blistène)

Rashômon (1950, Akira Kurosawa)
Tôkyô monogatari (1953, Yasujiro Ozu)
Suzaki Paradaisu: Akashingô (1956, Yuzo Kawashima)
Ila Ayn (1957, Georges Nasser)

Devi (1960, Satyajit Ray)
Banditi a Orgosolo (1961, Vittorio de Seta)
Le procès (1962, Orson Welles)
Seppuku (1962, Masaki Kobayashi)
Le feu follet (1963, Louis Malle)
Le Mépris (1963, Jean-Luc Godard)
Suna no onna (1964, Hiroshi Teshigahara)
Soy Cuba (1964, Mikhail Kalatozov)
Obchod na korze (1965, Elmar Klos & Jan Kadar)
Andrey Rublyov (1966, Andrei Tarkovsky)
Blow-Up (1966, Michelangelo Antonioni)
Mademoiselle (1966, Tony Richardson)
Un uomo a metà (1966, Vittorio de Seta)
Elvira Madigan (1967, Bo Widerberg)
Marketa Lazarova (1967, Frantisek Vlacil)
Midaregumo (1967, Mikio Naruse)
Oi voskoi (1967, Nikos Papatakis)
Teorema (1968, Pier Paolo Pasolini)
Ma nuit chez Maud (1969, Eric Rohmer)
Sayat nova (1969, Sergei Parajanov)
Struktura krysztalu (1969, Krzysztof Zanussi)

...ere erera baleibu izik subua aruaren... (1970, José Antonio Sistiaga)
A Clockwork Orange (1971, Stanley Kubrick)
Punishment Park (1971, Peter Watkins)
Le cousin Jules (1972, Dominique Benicheti)
Ankur (1974, Shyam Benegal)
A Woman Under the Influence (1974, John Cassavetes)
Un homme qui dort (1974, Bernard Queysanne)
Dersu Uzala (1975, Akira Kurosawa)
Maynila sa mga kuko ng liwanag (1975, Lino Brocka)
Chinesisches Roulette (1976, Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
L'hypothèse du tableau volé (1978, Raoul Ruiz)

Aus dem Leben der Marionetten (1980, Ingmar Bergman)
El nido (1980, Jaime de Armiñan)
Féherlofia (1981, Marcell Jankovics)
L'ange (1982, Patrick Bokanowski)
Nostalghia (1983, Andrei Tarkovsky)
Une femme en Afrique (1985, Raymond Depardon)
Sans toit ni loi (1985, Agnès Varda)
I Love Dollars (1986, Johan van der Keuken)
Mauvais sang (1986, Leos Carax)
Khane-ye doust kodjast? (1987, Abbas Kiarostami)
Karhozat (1988, Béla Tarr)
Stan posiadania (1989, Krzysztof Zanussi)

La belle noiseuse (1991, Jacques Rivette)
La double vie de Véronique (1991, Krzysztof Kieslowski)
Europa (1991, Lars von Trier)
Il ladro di bambini (1992, Gianni Amelio)
Qiu Ju da guan si (1992, Yimou Zhang)
Naked (1993, Mike Leigh)
Samt el qusur (1994, Moufida Tlatli)
Satantango (1994, Béla Tarr)
Mondo (1995, Tony Gatlif)
Nun va Goldoon (1996, Mohsen Makhmalbaf)
Conte d'été (1996, Eric Rohmer)
Secret défense (1998, Jacques Rivette)
Bakha satang (1999, Chang-dong Lee)
Like a Dream that Vanishes (1999, Barbara Sternberg)
Rosetta (1999, Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne)

Les glaneurs et la glaneuse (2000, Agnès Varda)
Werckmeister harmoniak (2000, Béla Tarr & Agnès Hranitzky)
Respiro (2002, Emanuele Crialese)
Uzak (2002, Nuri Bilge Ceylan)
Dogville (2003, Lars von Trier)
Histoire de Marie et Julien (2003, Jacques Rivette)
Vozvrashchenie (2003, Andrey Zvyagintsev)
Yella (2007, Christian Petzold)
Delta (2008, Kornel Mundruczo)
Alle anderen (2009, Maren Ade)
Keshtzar haye sepid (2009, Mohammad Rasoulof)

Another Year (2010, Mike Leigh)
Les films rêvés (2010, Eric Pauwels)
Jodaeiye Nader az Simin (2010, Asghar Farhadi)
Shi (2010, Chang-dong Lee)
We Need to Talk About Kevin (2011, Lynne Ramsay)
Cesare deve morire (2012, Paolo & Vittorio Taviani)
Holy Motors (2012, Leos Carax)
V tumane (2012, Sergei Loznitsa)
Hypnosis Display (2014, Paul Clipson)
Kis Uykusu (2014, Nuri Bilge Ceylan)
Mula sa kung ano ang noon (2014, Lav Diaz)
Un rêve solaire (2016, Patrick Bokanowski)
Beoning (2018, Chang-dong Lee)
Lazzaro felice (2018, Alice Rohrwacher)
Gisaengching (2019, Joon-ho Bong)
Longa noite (2019, Eloy Enciso)

Beginning (2020, Dea Kulumbegashvili)
We have a lot of favorites in common, especially among more recent decades. Went searching for a bunch 0f yours I am not familiar with, but none are readily available. Too bad. Most look very interesting....
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I haven't done a top 100 in a number of years, this list-making is hard work!

Die Nibelungen (Fritz Lang, 1924)
The Last Command (Josef von Sternberg, 1928)
Arsenal (Aleksandr Dovzhenko, 1929)
Enthusiasm (Dziga Vertov, 1931)
Limite (Mario Peixoto, 1931)
Boudu Saved from Drowning (Jean Renoir, 1932)
The King Steps Out (Josef von Sternberg, 1936)
Bringing Up Baby (Howard Hawks, 1938)
The Rules of the Game (Jean Renoir, 1939)
47 Ronin (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1941)
The Third Man (Carol Reed, 1949)
Late Spring (Yasujiro Ozu, 1949)
Diary of a Country Priest (Robert Bresson, 1951)
Johnny Guitar (Nicholas Ray, 1954)
Floating Clouds (Mikio Naruse, 1955)
Kiss Me Deadly (Robert Aldrich, 1955)
Mr. Arkadin (Orson Welles, 1955)
Vertigo (Alfred Hitchcock, 1958)
Imitation of Life (Douglas Sirk, 1959)
L'avventura (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1960)
Accattone (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1961)
The Human Condition (Masaki Kobayashi, 1961)
Last Year at Marienbad (Alain Resnais, 1961)
A Wanderer's Notebook (Mikio Naruse, 1962)
Contempt (Jean-Luc Godard, 1963)
The Leopard (Luchino Visconti, 1963)
Méditerranée (Jean-Daniel Pollet, 1963)
Winter Light (Ingmar Bergman, 1963)
Dog Star Man (Stan Brakhage, 1964)
Dr. Strangelove (Stanley Kubrick, 1964)
Chimes at Midnight (Orson Welles, 1965)
Fists in the Pocket (Marco Bellochio, 1965)
Not Reconciled (Daniele Huillet & Jean-Marie Straub, 1965)
Andrei Rublev (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1966)
Gammelion (Gregory J Markopolous, 1967)
Week End (Jean-Luc Godard, 1967)
Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach (Daniele Huillet & Jean-Marie Straub, 1968)
Death by Hanging (Oshima Nagisa, 1968)
The Hour of the Furnaces (Octavio Getino & Fernando Solanas, 1968)
Antonio das Mortes (Glauber Rocha, 1969)
Eika Katappa (Werner Schroeter, 1969)
Othon (Daniele Huillet & Jean-Marie Straub, 1970)
Four Nights of a Dreamer (Robert Bresson, 1971)
McCabe and Mrs. Miller (Robert Altman, 1971)
One Day Before the Rainy Season (Mani Kaul, 1971)
Inca Light (Robert E Fulton, 1972)
Lucifer Rising (Kenneth Anger, 1972)
The Long Goodbye (Robert Altman, 1973)
The Mother and the Whore (Jean Eustache, 1973)
Chinatown (Roman Polanski, 1974)
Lancelot du Lac (Robert Bresson, 1974)
The Text of Light (Stan Brakhage, 1974)
Zardoz (John Boorman, 1974)
Barry Lyndon (Stanley Kubrick, 1975)
India Song (Margeurite Duras, !975)
Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1975)
Harvest: 3000 Years (Haile Gerima, 1976)
Le fond de l'air est rouge (Chris Marker, 1977)
Perfumed Nightmare (Kidlat Tahimik, 1977)
The Suspended Vocation (Raúl Ruiz, 1978)
Gloria! (Hollis Frampton, 1979)
Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1979)
Balamos (Stavros Tornes, 1982)
Nomad (Patrick Tam, 1982)
À nos amours (Maurice Pialat, 1983)
L'ange (Patrick Bokanowski, 1983)
My Brother's Wedding (Charles Burnett, 1983)
Shoah (Claude Lanzmann, 1985)
Yellow Earth (Chen Kaige, 1985)
A Better Tomorrow (John Woo, 1986)
Landscape Suicide (James Benning, 1987)
The Antiquities of Rome (Jean-Claude Rousseau, 1989)
A City of Sadness (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1989)
O Sangue (Pedro Costa, 1989)
Passion (Jürgen Reble, 1990)
A Brighter Summer Day (Edward Yang, 1991)
Life and Nothing More (Abbas Kiarostami, 1992)
Rock Hudson's Home Movies (Mark Rappaport, 1992)
Picture of Light (Peter Mettler, 1994)
The Big Lebowski (Ethan & Joel Coen, 1998)
Flowers of Shanghai (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1998)
Eureka (Shinji Aoyama, 2000)
Gambling, Gods, and LSD (Peter Mettler, 2002)
West of the Tracks (Wang Bing, 2002)
Memories of Murder (Bong Joon-ho, 2003)
Twentynine Palms (Bruno Dumont, 2003)
Tropical Malady (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2004)
The New World (Terrence Malick, 2005)
Last Days in a Lonely Place (Phil Solomon, 2007)
The Man from London (Bela Tarr, 2007)
Night and Day (Hong Sangsoo, 2008)
Like You Know It All (Hong Sangsoo, 2009)
Drifter (Timoleon Wilkins, 2010)
Mysteries of Lisbon (Raúl Ruiz, 2010)
Almayer's Folly (Chantal Akerman, 2011)
Horse Money (Pedro Costa, 2014)
Silence (Martin Scorsese, 2016)
On the Beach at Night Alone (Hong Sangsoo, 2017)
An Elephant Sitting Still (Hu Bo, 2018)
Long Day's Journey Into Night (Bi Gan, 2018)
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prodigalgodson wrote: January 25th, 2023, 12:16 am I haven't done a top 100 in a number of years, this list-making is hard work!
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The Asian impact on your selection cannot be understated, I think it reaches 50% by 1998-today, and I'm known to like that.
Would have expected just a couple more silent films in your Top 100 - but then, it's already hard enough to fit everything in, right.

What were your latest additions? Of the last year, the Covid times, your current life period - what you wish.
What had to leave, no matter how much you tried to keep it? Or weren't you even sad about some removals?
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prodigalgodson wrote: January 25th, 2023, 12:16 am Limite (1931)
It's amusing to me that the only two instances where chronologically presented lists haven't annoyed me are both in this thread.

Also, the only good thing Marty Scorsese has done in film is to rescue Limite. I said what I said. It's good that three of us on the thread have recognized the film.
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prodigalgodson wrote: January 25th, 2023, 12:16 am Johnny Guitar (1954)
It's funny what time does, I get tears in my eyes when I watch this now. Also I love watching it in The Image Book. Godard's reprinting of it is gorgy. Lots of other shared faves and also things like L'Ange, which I think would be in any film fan's top 100, if only they were to watch it. It's hot take Tuesday, well it is in Hawaii anyway.

Btw where is the older list as this thread is meant to be about comparison. If memory serves your list hasn't changed much over the last few years.
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Torgo wrote: January 25th, 2023, 1:51 am
prodigalgodson wrote: January 25th, 2023, 12:16 am I haven't done a top 100 in a number of years, this list-making is hard work!
:ICM:
The Asian impact on your selection cannot be understated, I think it reaches 50% by 1998-today, and I'm known to like that.
Would have expected just a couple more silent films in your Top 100 - but then, it's already hard enough to fit everything in, right.

What were your latest additions? Of the last year, the Covid times, your current life period - what you wish.
What had to leave, no matter how much you tried to keep it? Or weren't you even sad about some removals?
I hadn't noticed the Asian presence, interesting! Thinking about it, yeah that tracks lol.

Re: silent films, haha well I do have Brakhage, Markopolous, Solomon, and Timoleon Wilkins. I think Sherlock Jr., Sunrise, The Wedding March, and 36 Commissars (and with the broader definition, Images of Asian Music) are the only other ones that might've made top 100 at some point. I like Metropolis, Napoleon, Man with a Movie Camera and the other classics, but they're not quite on the level of personal favorites. There's still a lot I'd like to see, Feuillade, Borzage, La Roue, etc. I feel like we moved on from the silent form just as it was starting to meet its potential. It takes an almost supernatural alignment of vision and craft to create a masterpiece no matter whose shoulders one stands on; making one while still scraping around in the dark laying a medium's foundations is an unlikely achievement.

I can easily answer the question about recent additions, since I watched very little during the last year or two, a lot during lockdown before that, and very little for a number of years before that. Lockdown additions include Limite, Méditerranée, The Hour of the Furnaces, One Day Before the Rainy Season, Inca Light, Landscape Suicide, The Antiquities of Rome, Passion, Rock Hudson's Home Movies, Picture of Light, Gambling Gods and LSD, West of the Tracks, Drifter, Almayer's Folly, Horse Money, On the Beach at Night Alone (? borderline), and An Elephant Sitting Still; and O Sangue I saw at a screening a few months ago. Everything else is from the before times.

Oh yeah, it was tough to part with a lot of titles. Rio Bravo, Shiiku, The Last Movie, Two-Lane Blacktop, The Shining, Khrustalyov, My Car!, Sicilia!, Yi yi, Inland Empire, The Woman on the Beach, Sad Vacation.... Feels weird having no Herzog, Fassbinder, or Lynch.
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matthewscott8 wrote: January 25th, 2023, 7:17 am
prodigalgodson wrote: January 25th, 2023, 12:16 am Limite (1931)
It's amusing to me that the only two instances where chronologically presented lists haven't annoyed me are both in this thread.

Also, the only good thing Marty Scorsese has done in film is to rescue Limite. I said what I said. It's good that three of us on the thread have recognized the film.

It's funny what time does, I get tears in my eyes when I watch this now. Also I love watching it in The Image Book. Godard's reprinting of it is gorgy. Lots of other shared faves and also things like L'Ange, which I think would be in any film fan's to 100, if only they were to watch it. It's hot take Tuesday, well it is in Hawaii anyway.

Btw where is the older list as this thread is meant to be about comparison. If memory serves your list hasn't changed much over the last few years.
Aww haha good, I almost made a preemptive apology.

Yes, Limite is one-of-a-kind pure cinema. Re: Scorsese, see also Sambizanga, Manila in the Claws of Light, Rhythm Thief....

Ahh Johnny Guitar, aside from Vertigo maybe the greatest film Hollywood will ever create. A poster of it I found in Madrid is probably my most prized possession. I'm looking forward to an upcoming screening of The Image Book. You put me onto L'ange years ago, mind-blowing stuff, I think it was my all-time favorite film for a few days after.

I don't know where I have my most recent top 100 at, I guess I'll have to use this as a jump-off point. You're right, it hasn't changed much; those early impressions are deep. And I was watching movies a lot more then too.
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prodigalgodson wrote: January 25th, 2023, 8:46 am
Torgo wrote: January 25th, 2023, 1:51 am
prodigalgodson wrote: January 25th, 2023, 12:16 am I haven't done a top 100 in a number of years, this list-making is hard work!
:ICM:
The Asian impact on your selection cannot be understated, I think it reaches 50% by 1998-today, and I'm known to like that.
Would have expected just a couple more silent films in your Top 100 - but then, it's already hard enough to fit everything in, right.

What were your latest additions? Of the last year, the Covid times, your current life period - what you wish.
What had to leave, no matter how much you tried to keep it? Or weren't you even sad about some removals?
I hadn't noticed the Asian presence, interesting! Thinking about it, yeah that tracks lol.

Re: silent films, haha well I do have Brakhage, Markopolous, Solomon, and Timoleon Wilkins. I think Sherlock Jr., Sunrise, The Wedding March, and 36 Commissars (and with the broader definition, Images of Asian Music) are the only other ones that might've made top 100 at some point. I like Metropolis, Napoleon, Man with a Movie Camera and the other classics, but they're not quite on the level of personal favorites. There's still a lot I'd like to see, Feuillade, Borzage, La Roue, etc. I feel like we moved on from the silent form just as it was starting to meet its potential. It takes an almost supernatural alignment of vision and craft to create a masterpiece no matter whose shoulders one stands on; making one while still scraping around in the dark laying a medium's foundations is an unlikely achievement.

I can easily answer the question about recent additions, since I watched very little during the last year or two, a lot during lockdown before that, and very little for a number of years before that. Lockdown additions include Limite, Méditerranée, The Hour of the Furnaces, One Day Before the Rainy Season, Inca Light, Landscape Suicide, The Antiquities of Rome, Passion, Rock Hudson's Home Movies, Picture of Light, Gambling Gods and LSD, West of the Tracks, Drifter, Almayer's Folly, Horse Money, On the Beach at Night Alone (? borderline), and An Elephant Sitting Still; and O Sangue I saw at a screening a few months ago. Everything else is from the before times.

Oh yeah, it was tough to part with a lot of titles. Rio Bravo, Shiiku, The Last Movie, Two-Lane Blacktop, The Shining, Khrustalyov, My Car!, Sicilia!, Yi yi, Inland Empire, The Woman on the Beach, Sad Vacation.... Feels weird having no Herzog, Fassbinder, or Lynch.
Hehe I held my tongue on the more modern no dialogue stuff :lol: For the earlier times would you consder... Zvenigora (Dovzhenko) or...Six et demi onze (Epstein)?
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