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iCM Forum World Cup - Season 5 - Round 1 schedule

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Welcome to the schedule of iCM Forum World Cup - Season 5 - Round 1.
If you don't know what this is, you can find everything about the World Cup here.

Rules in the group phase:
- You must watch all 5 films of a match before you vote.
- To vote, rank the 5 films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)
- The top 2 of each group will proceed to the next round.
The winners of the match will be decided using these rules:
  • Ranked by highest average ranking (= lowest number).
  • In case of a tie between two movies, head-to-head determines the winner (how many people thought A>B and how many thought B>A).
  • In case there's still a tie after the previous rule or there is a tie between three or four movies, most #1-votes determines the winner.
  • Still a tie? Fewest #5-votes determines the winner.
  • Still a tie? The match will have a 3 day extension (except when the tie is only between #3, #4 or #5).
  • Same rules apply to determine second place, of course.
- Don't vote in this thread. Each match will have its own thread according to the schedule.

ICM-list of all movies in this World Cup

Group A: 2022-12-18 till 2023-1-15
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
USACluny Brown1946Riteshlinklink
RomaniaBacalaureatGraduation2016shugslinklink
South KoreaNageuneneun kileseodo swiji anhneundaThe Man with Three Coffins1987whizwillylinklink
ArmeniaAlaverdiI'm Going to Change My Name2012clemmetareylinklink
Hong KongThe White Girl2017Onderhondlinklink
Group B: 2023-1-8 till 2023-2-5
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
JapanSakura no mori no mankai no shitaUnder the Blossoming Cherry Trees1975filmbanthalinklink
AzerbaijanBir Janub ShaharindaIn a Southern Town1969RogerTheMovieManiac88linklink
SwitzerlandGrauzoneZones1979beavislinklink
CyprusO teleftaios gyrismosThe Last Homecoming2008Mario Gaborovićlinklink
NetherlandsDorp aan de rivierVillage by the River1958pitchorneirdalinklink
Group C: 2023-1-29 till 2023-2-26
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
GermanyFlucht nach BerlinEscape to Berlin196172aicmlinklink
Dominican Republic339 Amin Abel Hasbun. Memoria de un crimen.339 Amín Abel Hasbun - Memory of a Crime2014zzzorflinklink
MoldovaCe lume minunataWhat a Wonderful World2014sollinklink
SingaporeIlo Ilo2013hurluberlulinklink
EgyptEl haramThe Sin1965Fergenapridolinklink
Group D: 2023-2-19 till 2023-3-19
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
ItalyIl cavaliere misteriosoThe Mysterious Rider1948Angel Glezlinklink
SwedenElvira Madigan1967pitchorneirdalinklink
SerbiaPre istineBefore the Truth1968St. Gloedelinklink
CanadaLes ordresOrderers1974Fergenapridolinklink
EcuadorRatas, ratones, rateros1999sacmersaultlinklink
Group E: 2023-3-12 till 2023-4-9
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
FranceLa traqueThe Track1975filmbanthalinklink
DenmarkDronningenQueen of Hearts2019toromashlinklink
TunisiaVHS - Kahloucha2006zzzorflinklink
HungaryTízezer napTen Thousand Days1967St. Gloedelinklink
ArgentinaRosaura a las 101958zhangalanlinklink
Group F: 2023-4-2 till 2023-4-30
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
RussiaZacharovannaya DesnaEnchanted Desna1964joachimtlinklink
IcelandBerdreymiBeautiful Beings202272aicmlinklink
BrazilAquarius2016hurluberlulinklink
TaiwanXiao shi da kanHoney PuPu2011Onderhondlinklink
MexicoMuseo2018sacmersaultlinklink
Group G: 2023-4-23 till 2023-5-21
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
SpainBienvenido Mister MarshallWelcome Mr. Marshall1953joachimtlinklink
IndiaSubarnarekhaThe Golden Thread1965tommy_leazaqlinklink
LithuaniaEkskursanteThe Excursionist2013jvvlinklink
ChinaFu rong zhenHibiscus Town1987klaus78linklink
PortugalMariphasa2017beavislinklink
Group H: 2023-5-14 till 2023-6-11
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
PolandMatka Joanna od aniolówMother Joan of the Angels1961shugslinklink
IranMogholhaThe Mongols1973klaus78linklink
AustraliaTurnaround1983RogerTheMovieManiac88linklink
South AfricaAnimals Are Beautiful People1974Mario Gaborovićlinklink
IrelandThe Field1990sollinklink
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Wow, only seen 6/38 (8/40 actually but I obviously checked my two picks), should be interesting but I expected a bit less homework for this 1st round
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Let me know if any of the links is wrong or if I missed an English title.
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Bir Janub Shaharinda is translated as In a Southern Town.
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I have seen 13/40 already.
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Mario Gaborović wrote: December 1st, 2022, 9:29 pm Bir Janub Shaharinda is translated as In a Southern Town.
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I've only seen 3 of these films excluding my own two picks, very excited to start delving into everyone's choices. There's some that have been on my radar for a while but a lot that I have never heard of - this looks promising.
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19/40 for me
and a few movies high on my watch lists picked, so this looks like a very nice line up on first glance!
some titles I know nothing about yet too, so that's fun!
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2/40 :sweat: I'll try to catch up!
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On guard, scoundrels!

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Seen 2 other than mine so hopefully I can get through the other 36 with no problem.

On a side note the English name for 339 Amin Abel Hasbun. Memoria de un crimen. (At least according to Kanopy) is 339 Amín Abel Hasbun - Memory of a Crime
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Seen 17/40, many exciting films to catch up with.
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I've seen 15/40 but not even one from the least obscure group, A. :cheers:

Some records were tied or broken; Icelandic film is by far the most recent one (from this year, 4 years newer than Dogman who held the record), while the Dominican film tied the 1-check record with Albanian movie from previous seasons (apparently only their managers have seen them before it started).
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Seen 10/40 including one dislike. Some really good choices for most countries though (films I would have chosen if I was managing them too).
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12/40. Let’s go! 🥳
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Starting at 6/40, including my two picks, with another 15 I already had watchlisted. This will give me the kick in the pants to watch some of the ones I've been putting off for ages. :thumbsup:
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16/40, and they're all really good. :cheers: I look forward to seeing more!
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joachimt wrote: December 1st, 2022, 9:22 pm
Group B: 2023-1-8 till 2023-2-5
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
JapanSakura no mori no mankai no shitaUnder the Blossoming Cherry Trees1975filmbanthalinklink
AzerbaijanBir Janub ShaharindaIn a Southern Town1969RogerTheMovieManiac88linklink
SwitzerlandGrauzoneZones1979beavislinklink
CyprusO teleftaios gyrismosThe Last Homecoming2008Mario Gaborovićlinklink
NetherlandsDorp aan de rivierVillage by the River1958pitchorneirdalinklink
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Starting at 6/40.
This'll be my first World Cup. Jazzed!
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Round 1 to take half a year??? Some wartime pace.
Not even a total blackout and romantic life will make me fail to catch up with these movies.
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Personally I'm glad with the low pace. I constantly have to make choices which movies to watch on MUBI and TUBI before they disappear from the service. Squeezing in other movies rarely fits.
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Haven't logged in for a while, looks like I'm at right time to come back lol
A bit slow pace compare with previous seasons, but great for me :banana: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Just contacted DimitrisPsachos to help me with translation of my Cyprus' entry (some lower lines are missing)... He refused but apologized, and said he had some arguments with other icm members... I didn't know about that, I guess that's the reason he left this place.

I wonder what was the issue, and who was involved. :(
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Don't try to have a conversation about that. It's no use.
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Mario Gaborović wrote: December 29th, 2022, 10:22 am Just contacted DimitrisPsachos to help me with translation of my Cyprus' entry (some lower lines are missing)... He refused but apologized, and said he had some arguments with other icm members... I didn't know about that, I guess that's the reason he left this place.

I wonder what was the issue, and who was involved. :(
For reference: He didn't leave, he was banned. He consistently broke rule 1 (along with other rules), received verbal and official warnings, and after it was clear he did not take heed was informed he would be placed on temporary bans if he continued, which he did. The temporary bans had no effect and he made it clear in PMs he would continue to break rule 1 and did so because he did not respect the rules.

Very frustrating case as he is clearly knowledgeable about cinema and I would have loved to have him post here. He is permanently banned, but if he ever changes his mind on the rules and would like to moderate how he speaks to others we could always reconsider. We hate banning people, and it is only done when it is clear there is no other option.
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St. Gloede wrote: December 29th, 2022, 10:52 am
Mario Gaborović wrote: December 29th, 2022, 10:22 am Just contacted DimitrisPsachos to help me with translation of my Cyprus' entry (some lower lines are missing)... He refused but apologized, and said he had some arguments with other icm members... I didn't know about that, I guess that's the reason he left this place.

I wonder what was the issue, and who was involved. :(
For reference: He didn't leave, he was banned. He consistently broke rule 1 (along with other rules), received verbal and official warnings, and after it was clear he did not take heed was informed he would be placed on temporary bans if he continued, which he did. The temporary bans had no effect and he made it clear in PMs he would continue to break rule 1 and did so because he did not respect the rules.

Very frustrating case as he is clearly knowledgeable about cinema and I would have loved to have him post here. He is permanently banned, but if he ever changes his mind on the rules and would like to moderate how he speaks to others we could always reconsider. We hate banning people, and it is only done when it is clear there is no other option.
Yes I noticed with many people that they see easing back or calming the situation as weakness, unfortunately. Even in everyday life, if you don't live in a big place like myself we often meet same people here and there, so why crossing the street or staring down if you're likely to spend all your life within same community? Clear the issues with everybody and say hello at least.
But I could see the problem with rule 2 for example; once I was hanging out Saturday night I told some people that "----------" and some simp called me an "arrogant jerk" in a threating tone. :lol: No doubt I would be penalized in virtual world (here, that is) as well. :lol:
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Mario Gaborović wrote: December 29th, 2022, 11:38 am
St. Gloede wrote: December 29th, 2022, 10:52 am
Mario Gaborović wrote: December 29th, 2022, 10:22 am Just contacted DimitrisPsachos to help me with translation of my Cyprus' entry (some lower lines are missing)... He refused but apologized, and said he had some arguments with other icm members... I didn't know about that, I guess that's the reason he left this place.

I wonder what was the issue, and who was involved. :(
For reference: He didn't leave, he was banned. He consistently broke rule 1 (along with other rules), received verbal and official warnings, and after it was clear he did not take heed was informed he would be placed on temporary bans if he continued, which he did. The temporary bans had no effect and he made it clear in PMs he would continue to break rule 1 and did so because he did not respect the rules.

Very frustrating case as he is clearly knowledgeable about cinema and I would have loved to have him post here. He is permanently banned, but if he ever changes his mind on the rules and would like to moderate how he speaks to others we could always reconsider. We hate banning people, and it is only done when it is clear there is no other option.
Yes I noticed with many people that they see easing back or calming the situation as weakness, unfortunately. Even in everyday life, if you don't live in a big place like myself we often meet same people here and there, so why crossing the street or staring down if you're likely to spend all your life within same community? Clear the issues with everybody and say hello at least.
But I could see the problem with rule 2 for example; once I was hanging out Saturday night I told some people that "---------" and some simp called me an "arrogant jerk" in a threating tone. :lol: No doubt I would be penalized in virtual world (here, that is) as well. :lol:
Not to derail the topic at hand, but regarding the rules and moderation practices:

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1. No personal abuse or attacks should be directed at another user. Arguments can get heated, but never personal.
It is not even calming the situation that's the issue, heated debate is perfectly acceptable, and even aggressive/angry discussions are tolerated. What is not tolerated is personal abuse. I.e. keep the conversation about the topic and stay off the person. Name-calling, direct personal insults, etc. is just not welcome, productive or healthy for discourse.

Re: Rule 1 and Dimitris - We kept trying to explain to him that there are so many ways to put down arguments and even be rude/aggressive if he really wanted to without breaking the rules, but he sadly had a specific wish to insult people's person.

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This rule is essential to ensure that everyone feels welcomed and are not harrassed/attacked just because of who they happened to be born as/who they are. This is a film forum so there is no need whatsoever to generalise or deride people by their gender, race, etc. If a user is racist, sexist, transphobic, etc. or have views that could be interpreted as such under the rules all they need to do is park that at the door and take it somewhere else (the same goes for all the rules).

I took the liberty of moderating out what you quoted above (for the reference of this conversation it was fairly mild, but generalising people by X gender and making an absolutist statement about something X gender does) as yes, if reported that could indeed have been seen as a violation of Rule 2. We rarely get reports of Rule 2 violations, and I can't actually remember a remotely recent report connected to sexism off-hand (someone else might have handled it if there was) so language/views of this kind don't seem to be used much/if at all here.

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Mario Gaborović wrote: December 29th, 2022, 10:22 am Just contacted DimitrisPsachos to help me with translation of my Cyprus' entry (some lower lines are missing)... He refused but apologized, and said he had some arguments with other icm members... I didn't know about that, I guess that's the reason he left this place.
Maybe try reaching out to kingink instead? I know he's done translations in the past, but I don't know how to get ahold of him. Last check on icm was 8 months ago and he hasn't been on the forum in over a year, but he's regularly rating films on imdb (2 just today) so he's at least active somewhere.
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Fergenaprido wrote: December 30th, 2022, 1:40 am
Mario Gaborović wrote: December 29th, 2022, 10:22 am Just contacted DimitrisPsachos to help me with translation of my Cyprus' entry (some lower lines are missing)... He refused but apologized, and said he had some arguments with other icm members... I didn't know about that, I guess that's the reason he left this place.
Maybe try reaching out to kingink instead? I know he's done translations in the past, but I don't know how to get ahold of him. Last check on icm was 8 months ago and he hasn't been on the forum in over a year, but he's regularly rating films on imdb (2 just today) so he's at least active somewhere.
He's already seen the film (unlike Dimitris), so he'd have to step out of his daily activities just to please me. I hate when I have to beg for someting, so I'll just let the subs as they are.

I managed to find the translation of the main theme song, which is damn beautiful
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starting my watchlists for 2023 and the world cup now... heads up for the next round: is Bir Cänub Shähärindä (1969) really only available on YouTube????

When I stream that, I risk Youtube forcing commercials ad random et nauseam or the stream reducing in quality because of weak wifi... so I would really appreciate it if somebody is able to get this here, or somewhere, in a more stable form!!! please
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beavis wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 10:26 am starting my watchlists for 2023 and the world cup now... heads up for the next round: is Bir Cänub Shähärindä (1969) really only available on YouTube????

When I stream that, I risk Youtube forcing commercials ad random et nauseam or the stream reducing in quality because of weak wifi... so I would really appreciate it if somebody is able to get this here, or somewhere, in a more stable form!!! please
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beavis wrote: January 2nd, 2023, 10:26 am starting my watchlists for 2023 and the world cup now... heads up for the next round: is Bir Cänub Shähärindä (1969) really only available on YouTube????

When I stream that, I risk Youtube forcing commercials ad random et nauseam or the stream reducing in quality because of weak wifi... so I would really appreciate it if somebody is able to get this here, or somewhere, in a more stable form!!! please
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Should not match 1B have been opened today?

PS : waw beat me to it by less than a minute
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pitchorneirda wrote: January 8th, 2023, 8:09 pm Should not match 1B have been opened today?

PS : waw beat me to it by less than a minute
Don't worry about me missing a starting date or deadline. My phone is automatically going to remind me of every date for round 1. I just wasn't home yet earlier today. Weekend away with with and kids and just got back.
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Berdreymi are now available online with retail subs. :party:
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