A question I have: when making a group ranked list, could some of the groups consist of one sigle film?
Example:
Group 1: #1
Group 2: #2
Group 3: #3
Group 4: #4-10
Why not... But your example is not the best : 1 2 3 movies will get the same point as the ranked 3 + group behind.
Out Java tools can't handle group ranking yet... So it's manual computing... The more complicated it gets... The more possibility of error rising.
FYI, I just manually removed all of the 400+ check films that I still had on my list. Might still add a title or two if I watch anything worthy before the deadline.
I’m to remember every man I've seen fall into a plate of spaghetti???
Tim2460 wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2022, 6:05 am
Why not... But your example is not the best : 1 2 3 movies will get the same point as the ranked 3 + group behind.
Out Java tools can't handle group ranking yet... So it's manual computing... The more complicated it gets... The more possibility of error rising.
I don't think I understand it, sorry. Wouldn't it be like:
#1 - 100 pts
#2 - 99 pts
#3 - 98 pts
#4 - 94 pts
...
#10 - 94 pts
?
In any case, I wouldn't want to make it troublesome for you if it's a lot of extra work, so I might just make a group-ranked list with less groups or a partially ranked one
Tim2460 wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2022, 6:05 am
Why not... But your example is not the best : 1 2 3 movies will get the same point as the ranked 3 + group behind.
Out Java tools can't handle group ranking yet... So it's manual computing... The more complicated it gets... The more possibility of error rising.
I don't think I understand it, sorry. Wouldn't it be like:
#1 - 100 pts
#2 - 99 pts
#3 - 98 pts
#4 - 94 pts
...
#10 - 94 pts
?
In any case, I wouldn't want to make it troublesome for you if it's a lot of extra work, so I might just make a group-ranked list with less groups or a partially ranked one
Yes you can do that, Tim's point is that a group of 1 is not a group, so computationally it makes no difference and writing it that way just risks confusion.
If you want
1
2
3
4-10
Then just say Top3 ranked and 4-10 grouped.
Tim2460 wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2022, 6:05 am
Why not... But your example is not the best : 1 2 3 movies will get the same point as the ranked 3 + group behind.
Out Java tools can't handle group ranking yet... So it's manual computing... The more complicated it gets... The more possibility of error rising.
I don't think I understand it, sorry. Wouldn't it be like:
#1 - 100 pts
#2 - 99 pts
#3 - 98 pts
#4 - 94 pts
...
#10 - 94 pts
?
In any case, I wouldn't want to make it troublesome for you if it's a lot of extra work, so I might just make a group-ranked list with less groups or a partially ranked one
Yes you can do that, Tim's point is that a group of 1 is not a group, so computationally it makes no difference and writing it that way just risks confusion.
If you want
1
2
3
4-10
Then just say Top3 ranked and 4-10 grouped.
Tim2460 wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2022, 6:05 am
Why not... But your example is not the best : 1 2 3 movies will get the same point as the ranked 3 + group behind.
Out Java tools can't handle group ranking yet... So it's manual computing... The more complicated it gets... The more possibility of error rising.
I don't think I understand it, sorry. Wouldn't it be like:
#1 - 100 pts
#2 - 99 pts
#3 - 98 pts
#4 - 94 pts
...
#10 - 94 pts
?
In any case, I wouldn't want to make it troublesome for you if it's a lot of extra work, so I might just make a group-ranked list with less groups or a partially ranked one
Yes you can do that, Tim's point is that a group of 1 is not a group, so computationally it makes no difference and writing it that way just risks confusion.
If you want
1
2
3
4-10
Then just say Top3 ranked and 4-10 grouped.
arrgh, I started editing the last one and when I tried to delete the ones that no longer qualified it deleted the whole list. I may or may not manage a new edition. Stay tuned. (I don't suppose the last one I posted is still accessible here?)
3eyes wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 4:53 pm
arrgh, I started editing the last one and when I tried to delete the ones that no longer qualified it deleted the whole list. I may or may not manage a new edition. Stay tuned. (I don't suppose the last one I posted is still accessible here?)
Your IMDb list from 2019 still seems to be available: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls063864488/. You could edit that one or import it to ICM and then edit it if that would help.
Btw is a ruling needed on Fanny and Alexander? I generated my list simply by sieving my favourites list mechanically (with a few manual adjustments near the end of the list, as can happen when you note the exclusions of a fairly arbitrary cutoff line), and now note that I have the TV / long version of F&A at #2. It seems to fit within the rules, but I wondered how many other people have taken this route, as presumably it's very well regarded, but not already in the 500 < 400.
Just pick another title, there are enough to choose from. You yourself should be ashamed the most to give your precious #2 spot to a film more renowned than the rest of the list combined.
I mean we all know it's only eligible because of some clunky IMDb process, every Fanny edition will have been watched by 1000+ people.
Torgo wrote: ↑September 25th, 2022, 5:21 pm
Just pick another title, there are enough to choose from. You yourself should be ashamed the most to give your precious #2 spot to a film more renowned than the rest of the list combined.
I mean we all know it's only eligible because of some clunky IMDb process, every Fanny edition will have been watched by 1000+ people.
Yeah, weird ratings/numbers caused by films being listed twice really shouldn't be a reason to vote for something so famous. Also there's the fact that IMDb is so completely arbitrary when it comes to counting mini-series/film version of those mini-series separately - or not. And then icm follow up this erratic behavior of course.
It was the truth, vivid and monstrous, that all the while he had waited the wait was itself his portion..
Torgo wrote: ↑September 25th, 2022, 5:21 pm
Just pick another title, there are enough to choose from. You yourself should be ashamed the most to give your precious #2 spot to a film more renowned than the rest of the list combined.
I mean we all know it's only eligible because of some clunky IMDb process, every Fanny edition will have been watched by 1000+ people.
Yeah, weird ratings/numbers caused by films being listed twice really shouldn't be a reason to vote for something so famous. Also there's the fact that IMDb is so completely arbitrary when it comes to counting mini-series/film version of those mini-series separately - or not. And then icm follow up this erratic behavior of course.
This one doesn't feel so arbitrary, as it has an entire two hours more footage. Also I am not super convinced that people have in fact seen it in this long form. In other ICM polls it has been given a separate entry I believe.
Oh I'm fully convinced. The new entry even had less than 20 checks in 2018. You wouldn't have believed that either, right?
It just emerged way past ICM's prime. You can assume it would have gained (more than) a mere 100 checks more in the 8 years since the site's birth, had it been featured correctly on the Criterion list from the beginning.
gunnar wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2022, 5:40 amGroup Ranked
Group 1 #1-2
Group 2 #3-20
Group 3 #21-39
Group 4 #40-75
Group 5 #76-109
Group 6 #110-321
Group 7 #322-364