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maxwelldeux wrote: September 4th, 2022, 5:53 am
Ebbywebby wrote: September 4th, 2022, 1:19 am But I could get an IMDb Crime Platinum if I just sat through "The Diamond Arm," and I sampled it once via Amazon Prime and it was unbearable. Nooooo.
I just watched it last month - very much not my thing, but there was a "religious experience" scene in the middle that was hilarious enough to be worth the time commitment for me.
I don't think it's that bad if you're preparing for a farce / screwball comedy. I didn't have that much experience about Soviet screwball, so it was educational for me, too.
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Ebbywebby wrote: September 4th, 2022, 1:19 am I've accumulated only eight Platinums in all my years on ICM, but I've calculated that I could get TWENTY more Platinums if I saw just 62 specific films.
And now it's 21 Platinums if I see 62 more films.
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Mr Brooks finished off the New Cult Canon list, #92 for me. Lot of really good stuff at the end of this list, although still tons that were terrible...
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Finished the Cannes list, apart from Triangle of Sadness (excited to see this in theater next month!). #93. Last movie, the very boring Padre Padrone.

This list is kinda special, as I watched the last 30ish films with my partner. We started dating about 6 months ago, and have been slowly working through the remaining films together. Finished last night. We'll be working on my remaining Venice films next.
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Cheers for that non-ICM achievement then, too :thumbsup:
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Has anyone run a script on iCM recently to get updated numbers on how many people have Plat on each list? I'm curious what lists have the most Plats that I don't have Plat on. I know 100 Noirs has gotta be #1, as it has 130+ folks at Plat... but I should have it Plat myself this week.
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Fun fact: You wouldn't even make the Top 1300 for the 50 Cartoons list if you have checked less than all 50 of them.
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Torgo wrote: September 10th, 2022, 4:42 pm Fun fact: You wouldn't even make the Top 1300 for the 50 Cartoons list if you have checked less than all 50 of them.
That doesn't help with the other 217 lists.

And the even more fun fact around that is that the least checked cartoon on that list has 1809 checks. Meaning a full 74.8% of people who have seen that cartoon have seen all 50 cartoons on that list. Not as impressive, but 6.4% of users who have at least 1 check on that list have seen all films on that list.
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Tasselfoot wrote: September 10th, 2022, 4:32 pm Has anyone run a script on iCM recently to get updated numbers on how many people have Plat on each list? I'm curious what lists have the most Plats that I don't have Plat on. I know 100 Noirs has gotta be #1, as it has 130+ folks at Plat... but I should have it Plat myself this week.
That was me who did it in the past, and I have not done it any time recently (it was a manual process, not a script). I mean, there were only 190 official lists last time I did it, to give you an idea of how long it's been.
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maxwelldeux wrote: September 10th, 2022, 6:02 pm
Tasselfoot wrote: September 10th, 2022, 4:32 pm Has anyone run a script on iCM recently to get updated numbers on how many people have Plat on each list? I'm curious what lists have the most Plats that I don't have Plat on. I know 100 Noirs has gotta be #1, as it has 130+ folks at Plat... but I should have it Plat myself this week.
That was me who did it in the past, and I have not done it any time recently (it was a manual process, not a script). I mean, there were only 190 official lists last time I did it, to give you an idea of how long it's been.
Ugh, doing it manually sounds terrible. There's enough smart programmers in here... someone should be able to write a script to do it in 10% of the time it takes you to do it manually. But in case you wanted to do it again... I wouldn't mind.
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Tasselfoot wrote: September 10th, 2022, 6:27 pm
maxwelldeux wrote: September 10th, 2022, 6:02 pm
Tasselfoot wrote: September 10th, 2022, 4:32 pm Has anyone run a script on iCM recently to get updated numbers on how many people have Plat on each list? I'm curious what lists have the most Plats that I don't have Plat on. I know 100 Noirs has gotta be #1, as it has 130+ folks at Plat... but I should have it Plat myself this week.
That was me who did it in the past, and I have not done it any time recently (it was a manual process, not a script). I mean, there were only 190 official lists last time I did it, to give you an idea of how long it's been.
Ugh, doing it manually sounds terrible. There's enough smart programmers in here... someone should be able to write a script to do it in 10% of the time it takes you to do it manually. But in case you wanted to do it again... I wouldn't mind.
I've been watching the Alabama/Texas football game so I gave it a shot. There were a number of lists where there were no platinums so I put the number of people who were in 1st place in parentheses.

Here are all of the lists where you don't have platinum or are in 1st place.
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TSPDT's 100 Essential Noir Films 134
Quentin Tarantino's Coolest Movies of All Time 37
Emma Beare's 501 Must-See Movies 34
Academy Award - Best Cinematography 33
IMDb's 1910s Top 50 33
TSPDT's 1,000 Greatest Films 30
The Spaghetti Western Database's Essential Top 50 Films 27
BFI's 100 Westerns 24
Grindhouse Cinema Database's Top Grindhouse Classics 20
IMDb's 2020s Top 50 20
The Time's 100 Best French Films 19
BFI's 100 European Horror Films 17
Sharon A. Russell’s Guide to African Cinema 14
Cesar Award - Best French Film 13
Jennifer Eiss's 500 Essential Cult Movies 13
Slate's The Black Film Canon 12
Time Out's The 100 Best French Films 12
Harvard's Suggested Film Viewing: Narrative Films 11
Total Film's 50 Amazing Films You've Probably Never Seen 11
BFI Flare's The Best LGBTQ+ Films of All Time 10
Marshall Julius's Action!: The Action Movie A-Z 10
Paste's The 100 Best Anime Movies of All Time 10
The Criterion Collection's Eclipse Series 10
BFI's 100 American Independent Films 9
TSZDT's The 1,000 Greatest Horror Films 9
Venice Film Festival - Golden Lion 9
Akira Kurosawa's A Dream Is a Genius 8
badmovies.org's Best B-Movies 8
FESPACO Film Festival - Etalon de Yennenga 8
366 Weird Movies 7
Dutch Film Festival's Dutch Film Top 50 7
Goya Award - Best Spanish Film 7
Russian Guild of Film Critic's Best Russian Films 7
The Guardian's 1000 Films to See Before You Die 7
TSPDT's 1,000 Noir Films 7
Box Office Mojo's All Time Adjusted Box Office 6
FilmTV's The Best Italian Films 6
Galloway's Samurai Film Handbook & Companion 6
Outlook India's Best Bollywood Films 6
Scott Hocking’s 100 Greatest Films of Australian Cinema 6
Francois Truffaut's The Films in My Life 5
Wei Jun Zi's 100 Classic Martial Arts Films 5
Abraccine's The 100 Best Brazilian Films 4
Caiman's Top Spanish Films 4
cine.gr's The Best of Greek Cinema 4
IMDb's Mini-Series Top 50 4
Kinemathekverbund's The 100 Most Important German Films 4
Amanda Award - Best Norwegian Film 3
Empire Russia’s 100 Best Russian Films: Reader’s Choice 3
Harvard's Suggested Film Viewing: Non-Fiction Films 3
KOFA's 100 Korean Films 3
Korean Screen’s 100 Greatest Korean Films 3
LoveHKFilm.com’s The Best Hong Kong Films Ever 3
Magyar Muveszeti Akademia's 53 Hungarian Films 3
Muzeum Kinematografii w Lodzi's Best Polish Films 3
Sight & Sound's The Greatest Documentaries of All Time 3
Sight & Sound's The Greatest Films of All Time 3
The Criterion Collection 3
Academy Award - Best International Feature Film Nominees 2
Ariel Award - Best Mexican Film 2
BFI's 100 Film Musicals 2
BFI's 100 Road Movies 2
Bodil Award - Best Danish Film 2
Cinema Tropical's Best Latin American Films 2000-2009 2
Gouden Kalf Award - Best Dutch Film 2
Guldbagge Award - Best Swedish Film 2
Halliwell's Top 1000: The Ultimate Movie Countdown 2
ICM Forum's 500<400 2
Nickel Odeon's Best Spanish Films 2
The New York Time's Book of Movies 2
TIFF’s Top Canadian Films 2
Asociatiei Criticilor de Film's Best Romainian Films 1
Berlin International Film Festival - Golden Bear 1
David di Donatello - Best Italian Film 1
David Thomson's Have You Seen? 1
Film Magazine’s Best Iranian Films 1
Golden Horse's 100 Greatest Chinese-Language Films 1
Golden Lotus Award - Best Indian Feature Film 1
iCheckMovies's Most Favorited 1
Jonathan Rosenbaum's Essential Cinema 1
Kinema Junpo's Top 200 Japanese Films 1
Sector Cine’s Best Mexican Films of All Time 1
TSPDT's Brief Encounters 1
Cannes Film Festival - Grand Prix 0 (10)
Sundance Film Festival - Grand Jury Prize 0 (9)
Eureka!'s The Masters of Cinema Series 0 ( 5)
Academy Award - Best Documentary 0 (4)
Hurriyet's The 100 Best Movies of Turkish Cinema 0 (3)
Academy Award - Best Picture Nominees 0 (2)
BFI's 360 Classic Feature Films Project 0 (2)
Golden Foundation of Czech and Slovak Cinema 0 (2)
Mark Cousin's The Story of Film: An Odyssey 0 (2)
Polski Instytut Sztuki Filmowej's 100 Years of Polish Films 0 (2)
Silent Era's The Top 300 Silent Era Films 0 (2)
Amos Vogel's Film as a Subversive Art 0 (1)
Anthology Film Archives's Essential Cinema 0 (1)
Belgian Film Award - Best Film 0 (1)
Box Office Mojo's All Time Worldwide Box Office 0 (1)
Cahiers du Cinema's Annual Top 10 Lists 0 (1)
Cien anos sin soledad: Greatest Latin American Films 0 (1)
CineChile's 50 Best Chilean Movies of All Time 0 (1)
Cinema Tropical's Best Latin American Films 2010-2019 0 (1)
Cóndor de Plata Award - Best Argentinian Film 0 (1)
DIFF's The 100 Greatest Arab Films 0 (1)
Doubling the Canon 0 (1)
FLM's Best Swedish Films of All Time 0 (1)
Geoff King's Film Comedy 0 (1)
HKFA's The Best 100 Chinese Motion Pictures 0 (1)
Kinema Junpo Award - Best Japanese Film's 0 (1)
Library of Congress's National Film Registry 0 (1)
Locarno Film Festival - Golden Leopard 0 (1)
Lola Award - Best German Film 0 (1)
Maariv's Best Israeli Films of All Time 0 (1)
National Film Archive of India's 125 Great Indian Films 0 (1)
Paul Rotha's Silent but Not Forgotten 0 (1)
Pinoy Rebyu’s 100 Greatest Pinoy Films of All Time 0 (1)
Publico’s Top Portuguese Films to Show in School 0 (1)
Roy Menarini's Il Grande Cinema Italiano 0 (1)
Sight & Sound's 75 Hidden Gems 0 (1)
Time Out's 1000 Films to Change Your Life 0 (1)
Tom Vick's Asian Cinema: A Field Guide 0 (1)
TSPDT's 1,000 Greatest Films: 1001-2000 0 (1)
TSPDT's 21st Century's Most Acclaimed Films 0 (1)
TSPDT's Ain't Nobody's Blues but My Own 0 (1)
UNESCO's Memory of the World 0 (1)
Yle New's Best Finnish Films 0 (1)
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gunnar wrote: September 10th, 2022, 7:16 pm
Tasselfoot wrote: September 10th, 2022, 6:27 pm
maxwelldeux wrote: September 10th, 2022, 6:02 pm
That was me who did it in the past, and I have not done it any time recently (it was a manual process, not a script). I mean, there were only 190 official lists last time I did it, to give you an idea of how long it's been.
Ugh, doing it manually sounds terrible. There's enough smart programmers in here... someone should be able to write a script to do it in 10% of the time it takes you to do it manually. But in case you wanted to do it again... I wouldn't mind.
I've been watching the Alabama/Texas football game so I gave it a shot. There were a number of lists where there were no platinums so I put the number of people who were in 1st place in parentheses.

Here are all of the lists where you don't have platinum or are in 1st place.
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TSPDT's 100 Essential Noir Films 134
Quentin Tarantino's Coolest Movies of All Time 37
Emma Beare's 501 Must-See Movies 34
Academy Award - Best Cinematography 33
IMDb's 1910s Top 50 33
TSPDT's 1,000 Greatest Films 30
The Spaghetti Western Database's Essential Top 50 Films 27
BFI's 100 Westerns 24
Grindhouse Cinema Database's Top Grindhouse Classics 20
IMDb's 2020s Top 50 20
The Time's 100 Best French Films 19
BFI's 100 European Horror Films 17
Sharon A. Russell’s Guide to African Cinema 14
Cesar Award - Best French Film 13
Jennifer Eiss's 500 Essential Cult Movies 13
Slate's The Black Film Canon 12
Time Out's The 100 Best French Films 12
Harvard's Suggested Film Viewing: Narrative Films 11
Total Film's 50 Amazing Films You've Probably Never Seen 11
BFI Flare's The Best LGBTQ+ Films of All Time 10
Marshall Julius's Action!: The Action Movie A-Z 10
Paste's The 100 Best Anime Movies of All Time 10
The Criterion Collection's Eclipse Series 10
BFI's 100 American Independent Films 9
TSZDT's The 1,000 Greatest Horror Films 9
Venice Film Festival - Golden Lion 9
Akira Kurosawa's A Dream Is a Genius 8
badmovies.org's Best B-Movies 8
FESPACO Film Festival - Etalon de Yennenga 8
366 Weird Movies 7
Dutch Film Festival's Dutch Film Top 50 7
Goya Award - Best Spanish Film 7
Russian Guild of Film Critic's Best Russian Films 7
The Guardian's 1000 Films to See Before You Die 7
TSPDT's 1,000 Noir Films 7
Box Office Mojo's All Time Adjusted Box Office 6
FilmTV's The Best Italian Films 6
Galloway's Samurai Film Handbook & Companion 6
Outlook India's Best Bollywood Films 6
Scott Hocking’s 100 Greatest Films of Australian Cinema 6
Francois Truffaut's The Films in My Life 5
Wei Jun Zi's 100 Classic Martial Arts Films 5
Abraccine's The 100 Best Brazilian Films 4
Caiman's Top Spanish Films 4
cine.gr's The Best of Greek Cinema 4
IMDb's Mini-Series Top 50 4
Kinemathekverbund's The 100 Most Important German Films 4
Amanda Award - Best Norwegian Film 3
Empire Russia’s 100 Best Russian Films: Reader’s Choice 3
Harvard's Suggested Film Viewing: Non-Fiction Films 3
KOFA's 100 Korean Films 3
Korean Screen’s 100 Greatest Korean Films 3
LoveHKFilm.com’s The Best Hong Kong Films Ever 3
Magyar Muveszeti Akademia's 53 Hungarian Films 3
Muzeum Kinematografii w Lodzi's Best Polish Films 3
Sight & Sound's The Greatest Documentaries of All Time 3
Sight & Sound's The Greatest Films of All Time 3
The Criterion Collection 3
Academy Award - Best International Feature Film Nominees 2
Ariel Award - Best Mexican Film 2
BFI's 100 Film Musicals 2
BFI's 100 Road Movies 2
Bodil Award - Best Danish Film 2
Cinema Tropical's Best Latin American Films 2000-2009 2
Gouden Kalf Award - Best Dutch Film 2
Guldbagge Award - Best Swedish Film 2
Halliwell's Top 1000: The Ultimate Movie Countdown 2
ICM Forum's 500<400 2
Nickel Odeon's Best Spanish Films 2
The New York Time's Book of Movies 2
TIFF’s Top Canadian Films 2
Asociatiei Criticilor de Film's Best Romainian Films 1
Berlin International Film Festival - Golden Bear 1
David di Donatello - Best Italian Film 1
David Thomson's Have You Seen? 1
Film Magazine’s Best Iranian Films 1
Golden Horse's 100 Greatest Chinese-Language Films 1
Golden Lotus Award - Best Indian Feature Film 1
iCheckMovies's Most Favorited 1
Jonathan Rosenbaum's Essential Cinema 1
Kinema Junpo's Top 200 Japanese Films 1
Sector Cine’s Best Mexican Films of All Time 1
TSPDT's Brief Encounters 1
Cannes Film Festival - Grand Prix 0 (10)
Sundance Film Festival - Grand Jury Prize 0 (9)
Eureka!'s The Masters of Cinema Series 0 ( 5)
Academy Award - Best Documentary 0 (4)
Hurriyet's The 100 Best Movies of Turkish Cinema 0 (3)
Academy Award - Best Picture Nominees 0 (2)
BFI's 360 Classic Feature Films Project 0 (2)
Golden Foundation of Czech and Slovak Cinema 0 (2)
Mark Cousin's The Story of Film: An Odyssey 0 (2)
Polski Instytut Sztuki Filmowej's 100 Years of Polish Films 0 (2)
Silent Era's The Top 300 Silent Era Films 0 (2)
Amos Vogel's Film as a Subversive Art 0 (1)
Anthology Film Archives's Essential Cinema 0 (1)
Belgian Film Award - Best Film 0 (1)
Box Office Mojo's All Time Worldwide Box Office 0 (1)
Cahiers du Cinema's Annual Top 10 Lists 0 (1)
Cien anos sin soledad: Greatest Latin American Films 0 (1)
CineChile's 50 Best Chilean Movies of All Time 0 (1)
Cinema Tropical's Best Latin American Films 2010-2019 0 (1)
Cóndor de Plata Award - Best Argentinian Film 0 (1)
DIFF's The 100 Greatest Arab Films 0 (1)
Doubling the Canon 0 (1)
FLM's Best Swedish Films of All Time 0 (1)
Geoff King's Film Comedy 0 (1)
HKFA's The Best 100 Chinese Motion Pictures 0 (1)
Kinema Junpo Award - Best Japanese Film's 0 (1)
Library of Congress's National Film Registry 0 (1)
Locarno Film Festival - Golden Leopard 0 (1)
Lola Award - Best German Film 0 (1)
Maariv's Best Israeli Films of All Time 0 (1)
National Film Archive of India's 125 Great Indian Films 0 (1)
Paul Rotha's Silent but Not Forgotten 0 (1)
Pinoy Rebyu’s 100 Greatest Pinoy Films of All Time 0 (1)
Publico’s Top Portuguese Films to Show in School 0 (1)
Roy Menarini's Il Grande Cinema Italiano 0 (1)
Sight & Sound's 75 Hidden Gems 0 (1)
Time Out's 1000 Films to Change Your Life 0 (1)
Tom Vick's Asian Cinema: A Field Guide 0 (1)
TSPDT's 1,000 Greatest Films: 1001-2000 0 (1)
TSPDT's 21st Century's Most Acclaimed Films 0 (1)
TSPDT's Ain't Nobody's Blues but My Own 0 (1)
UNESCO's Memory of the World 0 (1)
Yle New's Best Finnish Films 0 (1)
Holy balls, that's amazing. Thank you very much!
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TSPDT's 100 Essential Noir Films 134
-- Working on this list right now; should be done in a few days, tops

Quentin Tarantino's Coolest Movies of All Time 37
-- This has been on my shortlist of next lists to do (might finish in 2022?)

Emma Beare's 501 Must-See Movies 34
-- This has been on my shortlist of next lists to do (might finish in 2022?)

Academy Award - Best Cinematography 33
-- This has been on my shortlist of next lists to do, but not quite as interested in the remaining films (early 2023?)

IMDb's 1910s Top 50 33
-- No interest in this list at all; not a big fan of silent era, and even less so for early silent era

TSPDT's 1,000 Greatest Films 30
-- Waiting for S&S 2022, since I know that'll have a big impact on TSPDT. Very high on my list to work on once the 2023 version is released
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#94 - 100 Essential Noirs. Finished up with Desperate.

So glad to be done with these. After the top few Noirs, every single one is the same identical nonsense. So sick of Noirs... their chauvinism, promotion of the police, and walking ads for cigarettes. The last 50 I watched all bleed together.
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Tasselfoot wrote: September 12th, 2022, 8:18 pm #94 - 100 Essential Noirs. Finished up with Desperate.

So glad to be done with these. After the top few Noirs, every single one is the same identical nonsense. So sick of Noirs... their chauvinism, promotion of the police, and walking ads for cigarettes. The last 50 I watched all bleed together.
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The insanity of having top 50, top 100 and top 1000 noir lists.

I'm three away from a Bronze on the top 100 list. I'd enjoy checking out "Panic in the Streets" and am half-interested in "Niagara" and "Body and Soul," so I could reach Bronze if I endure the latter two. Beyond those three films, the remainder is pretty much a void.
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The TRUE complete nonsense is having the TSP Top 100 again included in the Top 1000, in exactly the same order, one by one.
It's unheard of on the whole site, even the IMDb Top 250 are scattered in totally different style among the according decade and genre lists.
Imagine the IMDb Top 1000 becoming official one day and beginning with the spots 1-250, again, to match the list title better .. :folded:

/triggered
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Different strokes and all - the TSP noir list is unquestionably my favorite official list - at least, my favorite to work on (though I haven't been doing that). I doubt it has the highest percentage of favorites, but it probably has among the lowest percentage of dislikes for me, and even a mediocre noir is still almost always fun (but no, not better than any Godard, Walter). That said I agree that doubling the top 100 is stupid and that ought to be reconsidered at some point. As to whether we should have a list so large of noir.. :shrug: I mean, of course I'm happy with it but I like big lists of genres; I've made my peace with the horror list now. I just wish we had better and bigger lists of other genres to go alongside them - specifically action, musicals, and westerns; and I'm sure others would like to see something else. But meh, I can find those films without official lists anyway. The official check game gets old when you really delve into an area and see that there's a lot more out there than what some people decided made for a good intro, or even a good large-sized list.
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43rd platinum - IMDb's 1910's Top 50 - Hearts of the World (1918) - 6/10

For some reason, I don't think that I'll be getting platinums on the Paul Rotha or Silent Era lists, but at least I rank in about the top 300 on each list and will probably move up a bit before this month's Silent Era challenge ends.
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Torgo wrote: September 12th, 2022, 10:56 pm The TRUE complete nonsense is having the TSP Top 100 again included in the Top 1000, in exactly the same order, one by one.
It's unheard of on the whole site, even the IMDb Top 250 are scattered in totally different style among the according decade and genre lists.
Imagine the IMDb Top 1000 becoming official one day and beginning with the spots 1-250, again, to match the list title better .. :folded:

/triggered
I agree. I kind of have the same feeling about the Academy Award nominees list including the winners, too.
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The Florida Project got me Platinum on the Reddit Top 250. Liked it a bit better than Tangerine, but still not too impressed with Baker's films.
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Due to an update of the IMDb Thriller list, I got a Platinum without seeing anything new. Platinum #9 for me. I'll probably lose it again.
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#95 - Emma Beare's 501 Must-See Movies... Vidor's War and Peace.

Almost entirely war and western movies as my final 20-25 films of this list. A bit of a challenge getting through them all, as not my favorite genres. But some good stuff in there still like The Ballad of Cable Hogue, Twelve O'Clock High, and Mister Roberts.

Think Tarantino will be next... do we know an aprox release date of the S&S 2022 poll results?
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Ebbywebby wrote: September 22nd, 2022, 8:07 pm Due to an update of the IMDb Thriller list, I got a Platinum without seeing anything new. Platinum #9 for me. I'll probably lose it again.
And...I iost it again. And I doubt I'll ever see "Logan," so that's life.
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44th platinum - IMDb's Romance Top 50 - Dil Chahta Hai (2001) - 8/10
45th platinum - IMDb's Music Top 50 - The Blue Angel (1930) - 7/10
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