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Ballad Of A White Cow sounds really interesting, will be sure to add it high to my watchlist. Daughters is up there too, Onderhond.

Already seen Come True from last year and Help, both really intriguing films I felt struggled in their final act. I'll give Help a 2 as well, largely courtesy of the horror-inducing real-time (single take?) middle act (3rd out of 4 I'd say) which is just incredible.
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I've watched a lot of nominated films recently but haven't yet shared my thoughts so here's an update on my latest viewings:

Great Freedom - 1
This was a well acted and nicely shot prison drama though I found it a little dull and lifeless in parts. It captures the boredom of prison life well though I'm not sure that always makes for a riveting film.

Brother's Keeper - 1
This felt quite reminiscent of the work of Asghar Farhadi - though not quite in the same league - with its focus on a young boy at a boarding school whose voice is falling on deaf ears as he tries to get help for his ill friend. It felt a little repetitive and the cinematography left a lot to be desired, however, the solid performance from the young protagonist was enough to keep me curious as to how things would pan out.

The Spine of Night - 1
Although the animation style was a little rough around the edges I was instantly engaged with this striking fantasy, with a hope that it would tread similar ground to Heavy Metal. Some of the segments made me feel like I was watching an episode of cartoons I used to watch when I was younger, like Conan the barbarian or dungeons and dragons, which was fun for a while but The Spine of Night doesn't allow the viewer enough time to connect with the characters before we are whisked away to some other storyline. A fun yet disjointed ride.

Nitram - 2
The central performance from Caleb Landry Jones is impressive here, his brooding portrayal of a twisted individual makes for a riveting experience. I felt a little short changed by the ending, but Kurzel is clearly focused more on the build-up and that is not necessarily a bad thing.

Hotel Coppelia - 1
The first part of Hotel Coppelia offers an engaging insight into the lives of prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, before the film shifts focus to explore the political tensions of the era. It takes the audience on a real wild path through the nation's turmoils of the 1960s but as characters come and go it loses what made it feel special during the first hour or so.

Wildhood - 1
This was a raw and vibrant exploration of young love and youthful energy, not too dissimilar from the themes we see in Andrea Arnold's American Honey, with a strong focus on nature and the outdoors that makes for some arresting cinematography. The story was lacking though and the young leads felt a little stilted in parts. I can see why others took a shine to this but I struggled to connect with it on an emotional level.

Adan - 0
This was a crazy ride! The love scenes between the two leads felt so awkward and uncomfortable, and the camerawork left a lot to be desired. The ending is worth sticking around for but there wasn't much about Adan that worked for me sadly.

Poupelle - 1
Those responsible for the music choices in this film have a lot to answer for! It's a charming kid's fantasy film, with enough appeal for adults (I loved the references to video games that were cleverly incorporated into the animation), but the musical numbers throughout were incredibly grating. That halloween song at the start was nearly enough for me to turn off the film. Take away the songs and you would be left with a film that I would have enjoyed a hell of a lot more.

Tlamess - 2
This was an intriguing film, I had no idea that it would evolve into something altogether different part way through and was pleasantly surprised with the direction it went in. I found the initial storyline gripping and the elements of magic/fantasy in the second half complimented the grim realism of the first part quite nicely. I'm not sure I fully understood the director's intent/message but this would be a solid addition to the African slate and I imagine many forum members would appreciate what the film has to offer. I think that we should easily be able to put together another strong African slate, even if not everyone has been overly enamoured with Tlamess.
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zzzorf wrote: June 30th, 2022, 10:12 pm New Order - Quite enjoyed this one. Looking at the consensus for this movie it seems to be very divisive but not between us programmers, I just gave it it's 4th 3.
:banana: Great to see some more love for New Order, it's the second film to receive a 3 from at least 4 voters which seems to be pretty good going. I had hoped it would make it to the Latam slate but maybe it could even be a potential for the main slate if the jurors take a shine to it.
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filmbantha wrote: July 1st, 2022, 8:17 pm Tlamess - 2
This was an intriguing film, I had no idea that it would evolve into something altogether different part way through and was pleasantly surprised with the direction it went in. I found the initial storyline gripping and the elements of magic/fantasy in the second half complimented the grim realism of the first part quite nicely. I'm not sure I fully understood the director's intent/message but this would be a solid addition to the African slate and I imagine many forum members would appreciate what the film has to offer. I think that we should easily be able to put together another strong African slate, even if not everyone has been overly enamoured with Tlamess.
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filmbantha wrote: July 1st, 2022, 8:17 pm I've watched a lot of nominated films recently but haven't yet shared my thoughts so here's an update on my latest viewings:

Great Freedom - 1
This was a well acted and nicely shot prison drama though I found it a little dull and lifeless in parts. It captures the boredom of prison life well though I'm not sure that always makes for a riveting film.

Brother's Keeper - 1
This felt quite reminiscent of the work of Asghar Farhadi - though not quite in the same league - with its focus on a young boy at a boarding school whose voice is falling on deaf ears as he tries to get help for his ill friend. It felt a little repetitive and the cinematography left a lot to be desired, however, the solid performance from the young protagonist was enough to keep me curious as to how things would pan out.

The Spine of Night - 1
Although the animation style was a little rough around the edges I was instantly engaged with this striking fantasy, with a hope that it would tread similar ground to Heavy Metal. Some of the segments made me feel like I was watching an episode of cartoons I used to watch when I was younger, like Conan the barbarian or dungeons and dragons, which was fun for a while but The Spine of Night doesn't allow the viewer enough time to connect with the characters before we are whisked away to some other storyline. A fun yet disjointed ride.

Nitram - 2
The central performance from Caleb Landry Jones is impressive here, his brooding portrayal of a twisted individual makes for a riveting experience. I felt a little short changed by the ending, but Kurzel is clearly focused more on the build-up and that is not necessarily a bad thing.

Hotel Coppelia - 1
The first part of Hotel Coppelia offers an engaging insight into the lives of prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, before the film shifts focus to explore the political tensions of the era. It takes the audience on a real wild path through the nation's turmoils of the 1960s but as characters come and go it loses what made it feel special during the first hour or so.

Wildhood - 1
This was a raw and vibrant exploration of young love and youthful energy, not too dissimilar from the themes we see in Andrea Arnold's American Honey, with a strong focus on nature and the outdoors that makes for some arresting cinematography. The story was lacking though and the young leads felt a little stilted in parts. I can see why others took a shine to this but I struggled to connect with it on an emotional level.

Adan - 0
This was a crazy ride! The love scenes between the two leads felt so awkward and uncomfortable, and the camerawork left a lot to be desired. The ending is worth sticking around for but there wasn't much about Adan that worked for me sadly.

Poupelle - 1
Those responsible for the music choices in this film have a lot to answer for! It's a charming kid's fantasy film, with enough appeal for adults (I loved the references to video games that were cleverly incorporated into the animation), but the musical numbers throughout were incredibly grating. That halloween song at the start was nearly enough for me to turn off the film. Take away the songs and you would be left with a film that I would have enjoyed a hell of a lot more.

Tlamess - 2
This was an intriguing film, I had no idea that it would evolve into something altogether different part way through and was pleasantly surprised with the direction it went in. I found the initial storyline gripping and the elements of magic/fantasy in the second half complimented the grim realism of the first part quite nicely. I'm not sure I fully understood the director's intent/message but this would be a solid addition to the African slate and I imagine many forum members would appreciate what the film has to offer. I think that we should easily be able to put together another strong African slate, even if not everyone has been overly enamoured with Tlamess.

Thanks for taking a look at a few of my nominations even if none of this particular batch was a home run. Nitram is definitely the best of the batch here and you seemed to agree so that's something. Of all my nominations Adan is the one I have no faith in and was more put in just as a me thing to hopefully get someone to watch it which you did and gave about the response I expected.
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I just sourced the following 4 movies for FilmBantha if anyone else desires a copy forwarded to them:

Vai
The Obituary of Tunde Johnson
Adam
Our Lady of the Nile
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A quick glance at the spreadsheet meant I found another 2019 qualifier.


Potential Juror/Main Slate List:
1. Marygoround (Maryjki) [2020]
2. Bad Luck Banging or Loony Porn (Babardeala cu bucluc sau porno balamuc) [2021]
3. Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy (Gûzen to sôzô) [2021]
4. Summer of 85 (Été 85) [2020]
5. Mad God [2021]
6. It Must Be Heaven [2019]
7. Caught in the Net (V síti) [2020]
8. The Sadness (Ku Bei) [2021]
9. New Order (Nuevo Orden) [2020]
10. Adam [2019]
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Nomination #26

Benny Loves You (2019)

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Preferred Slate: JBD

Alternate Slate: Indie

Director: Karl Holt

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IMDb Plot Summary: Jack, a man desperate to improve his life throws away his beloved childhood plush, Benny. It's a move that has disastrous consequences when Benny springs to life with deadly intentions.

Wikipedia Information: Benny Loves You is a 2019 horror comedy film directed, written, and produced by Karl Holt.[1] It stars Claire Cartwright, George Collie, James Parsons, David Wayman, Lydia Hourihan and Holt himself. The film premiered at the Buenos Aires Rojo Sangre on November 21, 2019.

My Two Cents: Unless something great comes my way over the next month I am going to use my last few nominations to highlight some 2019 movies in their last year of eligibility. The first is a great little comedic horror about a killer stuffed toy. I didn't expect much from this going into it but it is quite humorous and a good addition to the JBD slate similar to last years Papa, sdokhni.


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Recent watches update:

possible noms:

414. Internet El Gran Movimiento (2021) 7.5
424. cinema Il buco (2021) 8.0
425. cinema Jaddeh Khaki (2021) 7.0
427. cinema We're All Going to the World's Fair (2021) 6.0
428. Internet Luxor (2020) 8.0
436. DVD Weitermachen Sanssouci (2019) 8.0
446. Internet Souad (2021) 6.5

noms:

420. Internet Notre-Dame du Nil (2019) 7.0
448. Internet Bor Mi Vanh Chark (2019) 7.5

My possible noms for LatAm (Gran Movimiento) and Af (Souad) have again not made enough impact with me, but Luxor is a possible option. I think the director is British, but she has roots in the middle east and both her films so far have adressed those in some way. The film takes place entirely in Egypt (though mostly English language) and has some financing from Egypt... if you guys think that would be enough to fit an African slate then I would certainly nominate it, but I feel it might not be enough in the spirit of such a slate... I'll keep looking for more

I saw Our lady of the Nile which was... ok, but I didn't like the direction of it much, so I only gave it a slight support sadly. This morning I started the day with The Long Walk which is very nice indeed. I usually hate movies where timelines get mixed up, but when combined with a ghost movie melancholia like it is done here it suddenly works for me... you could say that time loses its meaning after death anyway, and what remains is a kind of compassion, however misguided that can get in the end (because there are also some horrific concepts in here indeed!)... I couldn't give it a full 8, because it still is st#$d timetravel, but I do give fill support.
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A few recent viewings to attempt to find more LatAm and Asia noms, Balloon is a possible nomination:

Qi Qiu / Balloon (2019) 8
1956, Central Travancore (2019) 7
Clara Sola (2021) 7.5
A febre / The Fever (2019) 6
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Not seen Luxor.

British and French leads make it feel like a more European production/point of view, but I'm not entirely against it. Would prefer seeing more fully African films though.

Right now we have the following African nominations:

Adam (3x3, 1x2)
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This is My Desire 2x3 1x2
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Fried Barry 1x3 2x2 1x0
Tlamess 1x2 1x2 2x1
Stop Filming Us 1x3 1x2 (Arguably Dutch)
Night of the Kings 1x3 1x1
Tenere 1x3 1x1
Our Lady of the Nile 1x3 2x1 (Arguably French)

Only seen by the nominator:

Kapana
Zinder

I think it would be good if especially the less seen films got two more views, so we see which have the most potential. So far Adam is the only one in with last years system, but one less programmer of course.
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I'll aim to watch Kapana this month.

In terms of watching more African films not yet nominated I will try to seek out the following soon:

Memory Box (2021) - Lebanon
Barakat (2021) - South Africa
In Another Life (2019) - Burundi

I might also see:

Poppie Nongena (2019) - South Africa,
Nafi's Father (2019)- Senegal
A Son (2019) - Tunisia

But these are less certain.
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Tom has invited me to join this ICMFF as a programmer. I've skimmed through the thread, and let's see if I have this correct:

- I can recommend up to 30 (!) films
- I only need to have seen 8 films from other jurors (I have already met and exceeded this requirement)
- I have until the end of August to watch as many others as I want

The only downside seems to be that I can't be a juror as well as a programmer, but as juror you have to watch the entire main slate (which was one of the off-putting things for me last year) and as a programmer I don't have to if everybody else wants to include a five-hour film, so it's probably the better option. Plus I love putting recommendations forward. And as Tom stated, I watch a lot of new and obscure films.

Is it too late to join? Do you want another programmer at this late stage of planning?

Some other questions:

- Is Wayne's icm-list of nominated films up-to-date?
- Is that list available on Letterboxd? That would be the easiest way for me to checking films available on my streaming services.
- With the spreadsheet ratings, should a 3 be a film I loved or rather a film that I think deserves more exposure? With all apologies to Chris, I don't think Bad Luck Banging, for example, needs more exposure - it won at Berlin! - but I certainly think it is a great film.
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St. Gloede wrote: July 7th, 2022, 9:01 am Stones Have Laws (2019) - Suriname
Suriname is in South America ;)
sol wrote: July 7th, 2022, 4:24 pm Tom has invited me to join this ICMFF as a programmer. I've skimmed through the thread, and let's see if I have this correct:

- I can recommend up to 30 (!) films
- I only need to have seen 8 films from other jurors (I have already met and exceeded this requirement)
- I have until the end of August to watch as many others as I want

The only downside seems to be that I can't be a juror as well as a programmer, but as juror you have to watch the entire main slate (which was one of the off-putting things for me last year) and as a programmer I don't have to if everybody else wants to include a five-hour film, so it's probably the better option. Plus I love putting recommendations forward. And as Tom stated, I watch a lot of new and obscure films.

Is it too late to join? Do you want another programmer at this late stage of planning?

Some other questions:

- Is Wayne's icm-list of nominated films up-to-date?
- Is that list available on Letterboxd? That would be the easiest way for me to checking films available on my streaming services.
- With the spreadsheet ratings, should a 3 be a film I loved or rather a film that I think deserves more exposure? With all apologies to Chris, I don't think Bad Luck Banging, for example, needs more exposure - it won at Berlin! - but I certainly think it is a great film.
Yes, max 30 films.
End of August is the goal for new nominations, end of September is the real goal for watching, with that month usually focused on filling in the gaps.
Wayne's list is likely updated, and I think he's got it on LB as well.
3 = both, imho. To me, it's a film you think you should absolutely be in the festival, whether because you love it, you think others will love it, or because it deserves more exposure.
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Fergenaprido wrote: July 7th, 2022, 4:51 pm
St. Gloede wrote: July 7th, 2022, 9:01 am Stones Have Laws (2019) - Suriname
Suriname is in South America ;)
No idea how I messed that one up. Thanks. :facepalm: :lol:
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sol wrote: July 7th, 2022, 4:24 pm Is it too late to join? Do you want another programmer at this late stage of planning?
Not at all.
- Is Wayne's icm-list of nominated films up-to-date?
Yes, 114 films in the sheet and the list.
- Is that list available on Letterboxd? That would be the easiest way for me to checking films available on my streaming services.
Don't think so unfortunately, but we could probably fix that quickly.
- With the spreadsheet ratings, should a 3 be a film I loved or rather a film that I think deserves more exposure? With all apologies to Chris, I don't think Bad Luck Banging, for example, needs more exposure - it won at Berlin! - but I certainly think it is a great film.
I believe we all generally go by love, but as Fergen said, they are connected and you can manage that as you see fit.

Keep in mind that 3 programmers giving a film 3/3 means it is approved to be sent to the Jury, so getting films to 3x3 is part of the goal. The films not picked by the Jury then get priority when we make the slates.

(We all have different rating scales we are converting, and eagerness to show them off can certainly factor in. I have a fairly straightforward system of giving films I rate 8/10 or higher 3/3, 7s become 2s, 6s become 1s and 5 and down become 0. Not sure if you are a stricter rater than me or not. I'm sure Tom translates 7 or 7.5 to 3/3s as he is a much stricter rater than me and his 7s and my 8s seem to mean about the same)

P. S. I didn't nominate Bad Luck Banging, that was Beavis ;)

I would not rule out films just for winning Berlin however. The jurors picked There is a No Evil for the main slate last year and if I recall correctly most had not seen it. Berlin doesn't quite have the status of Cannes, and the 10,000 vote limit on IMDb is a fairly decent indicator of exposure. Titane for instance is past 40k.
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Hey, very welcome indeed sol, it is never too late to join and we always need more input!

The requirement of 1 watch per month was meant to be something nominated that you had not already seen though, so 8 new watches in a short period could be a bit of a task afterall... but I won't be strict on this ;) I think we're doing reasonably fine and if you can add a lot of ratings to our spreadsheet at this time, that would already be a great help.

Indeed some of the films in our festivals are kinda high profile for those who follow festivals, magazines like Sight & sound and the like, but a lot of filmlovers don't pay attention to that, so while it can turn out to be a bit of a "best of the fests" (like a lot of festivals are actually!), we are still very much focussed on films outside of the mainstream, and our special slates further enhance that.
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sol wrote: July 7th, 2022, 4:24 pm Tom has invited me to join this ICMFF as a programmer. I've skimmed through the thread, and let's see if I have this correct:

- I can recommend up to 30 (!) films
- I only need to have seen 8 films from other jurors (I have already met and exceeded this requirement)
- I have until the end of August to watch as many others as I want

The only downside seems to be that I can't be a juror as well as a programmer, but as juror you have to watch the entire main slate (which was one of the off-putting things for me last year) and as a programmer I don't have to if everybody else wants to include a five-hour film, so it's probably the better option. Plus I love putting recommendations forward. And as Tom stated, I watch a lot of new and obscure films.

Is it too late to join? Do you want another programmer at this late stage of planning?

Some other questions:

- Is Wayne's icm-list of nominated films up-to-date?
- Is that list available on Letterboxd? That would be the easiest way for me to checking films available on my streaming services.
- With the spreadsheet ratings, should a 3 be a film I loved or rather a film that I think deserves more exposure? With all apologies to Chris, I don't think Bad Luck Banging, for example, needs more exposure - it won at Berlin! - but I certainly think it is a great film.

Welcome sol, you are never to late to join and you would be a great addition to our team. I think being a programmer is easier for those of us who do the monthly challenges than being a juror as we can fit our watches in throughout the year. Like the fact you are doing the Canadian challenge at the moment I highly recommend Gloede's nomination of The Body Remembers When the World Broke Open if you haven't seen it already.

My iCM (and PTP) lists are up to date, and ask and you will receive https://letterboxd.com/zzzorf/list/icm- ... minations/

I have added a spot into the spreadsheet for you to put your ratings (if you decide not to join I can just remove it again). As to the rating system it is more just how much you think it should be included in the festival and think others will enjoy it. The way I see it, I don't care if it is already official or not, or won a big award (I have nominated a BAFTA winner this year), the 10000 IMDb limit means that still many haven't seen it and OK we know a few around here have watched Bad Luck Banging but others haven't and as a few of us believe, more should. Basically my ratings are 7-10 corresponds to a 3, the movies I have enjoyed-loved. 2 is 6, movies I enjoyed but not to the full extant or was a little flawed. 1 is 4-5, movies I didn't overly enjoy but had moments of hope or I really see the appeal for others, and a 0 is 1-3, the movies I just wasn't a fan of at all.
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Another 2019 film have made the juror list. If sol does join I believe we will have a major update on this list coming soon which will bring it closer to the amount we like to send as options.


Potential Juror/Main Slate List:
1. Marygoround (Maryjki) [2020]
2. Bad Luck Banging or Loony Porn (Babardeala cu bucluc sau porno balamuc) [2021]
3. Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy (Gûzen to sôzô) [2021]
4. Summer of 85 (Été 85) [2020]
5. Mad God [2021]
6. It Must Be Heaven [2019]
7. Caught in the Net (V síti) [2020]
8. The Sadness (Ku Bei) [2021]
9. New Order (Nuevo Orden) [2020]
10. Adam [2019]
11. The Long Walk (Bor Mi Vanh Chark) [2019]
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zzzorf wrote: July 7th, 2022, 9:59 pm ask and you will receive https://letterboxd.com/zzzorf/list/icm- ... minations/
OMFG. :satstunned:

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While I can't promise that I will get through all 59 of those by August 31, there are quite a few in there that I really want to see, and might make time for with the <400 Checks Challenge next month - most notably, Sweetie You Won’t Believe It, The Sadness, Mad God, Little Girl, Sweat and Apple.
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beavis wrote: July 7th, 2022, 8:01 pm The requirement of 1 watch per month was meant to be something nominated that you had not already seen though, so 8 new watches in a short period could be a bit of a task afterall... but I won't be strict on this ;) I think we're doing reasonably fine and if you can add a lot of ratings to our spreadsheet at this time, that would already be a great help.
Not a lot of ratings, but I have added a dozen to the spreadsheet. :thumbsup:
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Sol's initial ratings give us 2 new qualifiers.


Potential Juror/Main Slate List:
1. Marygoround (Maryjki) [2020]
2. Bad Luck Banging or Loony Porn (Babardeala cu bucluc sau porno balamuc) [2021]
3. Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy (Gûzen to sôzô) [2021]
4. Summer of 85 (Été 85) [2020]
5. Mad God [2021]
6. It Must Be Heaven [2019]
7. Caught in the Net (V síti) [2020]
8. The Sadness (Ku Bei) [2021]
9. New Order (Nuevo Orden) [2020]
10. Adam [2019]
11. The Long Walk (Bor Mi Vanh Chark) [2019]
12. Bye Bye Morons (Adieu Les Cons) [2020]
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First two nominations (let me know if I'm doing this correctly or not):

1. The Innocents De uskyldige (2021, Eskil Vogt, Norway)

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:imdb: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4028464/reference/
:letbxd: https://letterboxd.com/film/the-innocents-2021/

Preferred slate: Europe --- Alternative slate: Just Before Dawn

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Ironically titled, this dark thriller circles around four children (one nonverbal autistic) who discover they have supernatural powers - and promptly misuse those powers. Some viewers have been quick to label the kids as 'evil', but it is not as simple as that. Sure, two of the kids do some very cruel things, but their pent-up anger is understandable, while the film paints a curious picture of kids existing with minimal adult supervision and guidance. This is a very atmospheric film too. The towering apartment complex is appropriately eerie, there are genuinely unsettling reality blurs and tension always lingers in the air with a constant sense of unease. The film has a really dark and powerful ending and the young actresses deliver well.


2. The Trouble with Being Born (2020, Sandra Wollner, Austria)

:ICM: https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/the ... eing+born/
:imdb: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9220966/reference/
:letbxd: https://letterboxd.com/film/the-trouble ... eing-born/

Preferred slate: Europe --- Alternative slate: LGBT (debatable)

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Uploading his dead daughter's memories into a humanoid android, a grieving father tries to recapture their bond, but the android soon makes choices of its own in this moody future-set drama. Of particular interest is how the android keeps getting lost in the woods as a result of the father programming the situation that led to his actual daughter disappearing/dying. It is an acute look at the difficulty of trying to capture somebody's essence as well as the fallibility of even the most advanced machines. The second half of the film involves the android taking on a second life with another grief-stricken individual. Its mixed-up programming (confusing memories inserted in by its two very different owners) is quite curious as the film becomes a bit of a personal identity study, and perhaps gender identity study, with robots in lieu of humans.
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Really great to have you officially on board Sol! Great to see 2 more films make the 3x3 cut and nice to see several 3/3 votes adding support to many other films. I'll try to watch Fried Berry as well now. And don't worry, no one would expect you to watch 59 films. :D

Quick clarification on the timeline: August 31st is just the deadline for adding new nominees. You have until the end of September to watch the nominees, giving all the films nominated at least 1 month to be seen - and some time to finalize the likely slate line-ups, and catch up on films from slates that may need a little push, etc.

The Innocents was a film I considered nominating so great to see it included. The Trouble with Being Born also looks quite intriguing.
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Easy 3 for me with The Trouble Being Born. That was a movie I was sacrificing to next year to allow other nominations to be done by me. I don't think LGBT is a good fit though.
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St. Gloede wrote: July 8th, 2022, 6:30 am Really great to have you officially on board Sol! Great to see 2 more films make the 3x3 cut and nice to see several 3/3 votes adding support to many other films. I'll try to watch Fried Berry as well now.
Thanks - though I wouldn't expect you to like Fried Barry tbh. :unsure:
zzzorf wrote: July 8th, 2022, 6:46 am Easy 3 for me with The Trouble Being Born. That was a movie I was sacrificing to next year to allow other nominations to be done by me.
Hah. Clever idea. I didn't even think about that, but maybe I'll save the rest of my potential 2021 nominees until next year in case I am a programmer again next year. Well, all of my 2021 nominees except for the one that encouraged Tom to make me sign up here. I will reveal that one later.

And fwiw, I will probably continue revealing just two nominations at a time because it is not a short process to put the write-up, links and pics together.
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zzzorf wrote: July 8th, 2022, 6:46 am I don't think LGBT is a good fit though.
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I think the film could be read along transgender lines since the bot literally transitions from female to male, though I dunno what the trans community on the forum would make of the film being included as a trans movie, and I don't want to upset anyone. I guess I'm mostly looking at where else it could be included if it misses out on Europe and the Main Slate.
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sol wrote: July 8th, 2022, 7:32 am
zzzorf wrote: July 8th, 2022, 6:46 am I don't think LGBT is a good fit though.
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I think the film could be read along transgender lines since the bot literally transitions from female to male, though I dunno what the trans community on the forum would make of the film being included as a trans movie, and I don't want to upset anyone. I guess I'm mostly looking at where else it could be included if it misses out on Europe and the Main Slate.
I knew where you were going with it, but it doesn't seem really what the film was going for as such. Ferg is our resident expert for that slate, he would be the person to ask.
sol wrote: July 8th, 2022, 7:28 am
zzzorf wrote: July 8th, 2022, 6:46 am Easy 3 for me with The Trouble Being Born. That was a movie I was sacrificing to next year to allow other nominations to be done by me.
Hah. Clever idea. I didn't even think about that, but maybe I'll save the rest of my potential 2021 nominees until next year in case I am a programmer again next year. Well, all of my 2021 nominees except for the one that encouraged Tom to make me sign up here. I will reveal that one later.

And fwiw, I will probably continue revealing just two nominations at a time because it is not a short process to put the write-up, links and pics together.
Yeah I have been trying to strategise my nominations all year, which I have been doing one a week for. Unfortunately for The Trouble with Being Born it was not one of my original must nominate movies and once I got through them I started making sure we got some into the lesser filled slates which Euro is always our most full slate. Now I'm into my final 5 I'm just trying to make sure I give some 2019 movies a chance to get in since I can't nominate them next year. For you, I would just start with what you feel most strongly about for now and then as we draw closer to the end then pick and choose more specific stuff.

As to your nominations I put them into the spreadsheet for you. We normally just chuck our own in there but if you can't I'm more than happy to do it for you.
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Added my rating to the sheet and The Innocents is immediately approvedwith 3x3. Nice one, Sol!
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St. Gloede wrote: July 8th, 2022, 8:02 am Added my rating to the sheet and The Innocents is immediately approvedwith 3x3. Nice one, Sol!
It is another one that I'm worried about going over our 10000 quota but for now it is on the list.


Potential Juror/Main Slate List:
1. Marygoround (Maryjki) [2020]
2. Bad Luck Banging or Loony Porn (Babardeala cu bucluc sau porno balamuc) [2021]
3. Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy (Gûzen to sôzô) [2021]
4. Summer of 85 (Été 85) [2020]
5. Mad God [2021]
6. It Must Be Heaven [2019]
7. Caught in the Net (V síti) [2020]
8. The Sadness (Ku Bei) [2021]
9. New Order (Nuevo Orden) [2020]
10. Adam [2019]
11. The Long Walk (Bor Mi Vanh Chark) [2019]
12. Bye Bye Morons (Adieu Les Cons) [2020]
13. Nitram [2021]
14. The Innocents (De uskyldige) [2021]
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Welcome aboard Sol! Even though I wasn't a huge fan of The Innocents it's great to see that one of your nominations was instantly added to the main slate list. The trouble with being born is on Mubi so I'll get to that in due course.

Things are shaping up nicely and having an extra programmer will strengthen our programme and potentially give us more options for some of the weaker slates. Looking forward to seeing what your future nominations are.

Also, I think Gloede may well enjoy Fried Barry, and I would absolutely love to hear his feedback on it, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed he gives it a shot in the coming weeks. :whistling:
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Yeah, no support for The Innocents from me either. Felt very expected and the impact was lacking. But glad to have you on board sol!
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Hahaha, I feel a tug of war going on over my taste and soul. :D

The visuals look very promising, the plot slightly less so, but I can see it being a film I give 2/3 to, and a 3 is always an option if it goes all-out crazy and commits to the mood.

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Oh, btw Sol, I see that you are doing the Canada challenge. There are a decent few Canadian noms, including some you have seen already.

For JB4D Night Raiders (which Fergen loved and Tom seemingly hated) could be up your alley - I have not seen that one yet myself.

I can see you being engrossed by The Body Remembers When the World Broke Open (my nom, talked about it briefly in the single-take episode) and Wildhood (Fergen's nom, visceral road movie tying into first nations heritage and LGBTQ+). Both good options for English-Language independent, with the latter also being a good option for the LGBT slate.

Other Canadian films in the list (that I see are) Matthias & Maxime (LGBTQ+ Romance Drama from Dolan) and Ste. Anne (experimental drama).

(I probably missed some)
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Thanks, guys. What are generally the weakest slates? I am thinking of nominating a couple of documentaries when I get home. JBD and Documentary are probably the categories I can add the most films for.
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St. Gloede wrote: July 8th, 2022, 8:42 am For JB4D Night Raiders (with Zzzorf loved and Tom seemingly hated) could be up your alley - I have not seen that one yet myself.
Wasn't me, I haven't seen it yet, I think you mean Ferg.
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zzzorf wrote: July 8th, 2022, 8:50 am
St. Gloede wrote: July 8th, 2022, 8:42 am For JB4D Night Raiders (with Zzzorf loved and Tom seemingly hated) could be up your alley - I have not seen that one yet myself.
Wasn't me, I haven't seen it yet, I think you mean Ferg.
You're right, I think I just assumed most of the JB4D noms come from you and Tom so didn't check the sheet for that one. I am slightly tempted to seek it out, though JB4D tends to be the slate/category I'm the least responsive to.
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sol wrote: July 8th, 2022, 8:47 am Thanks, guys. What are generally the weakest slates? I am thinking of nominating a couple of documentaries when I get home. JBD and Documentary are probably the categories I can add the most films for.
At the moment the states with the least nominations are Animation (9), Africa (10) and Latin America (10). Animation has traditionally been the most difficult I believe, while Africa only had enough successful nominees to get its own slate last year.

LGBT and Documentaries have 14 nominations each, while JB4D has 19.

Europe is always the most comfortable slate, with 40 nominations at present, while Arthouse and Indie have 27 each and Asia has 23.

Edit: You can follow the progress from the stats below the nominations list, which is currently in row 131-134.
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A lot of nominations are always suggested for indie, and the brief is kinda broad, but it is also a section that often feels weak(ish) in the end. I always try to give it extra attention, but often dissapoint myself... :)
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zzzorf wrote: July 8th, 2022, 7:54 am As to your nominations I put them into the spreadsheet for you. We normally just chuck our own in there but if you can't I'm more than happy to do it for you.
You guys are probably faster than me, so I'm happy if somebody else wants to it for me. :sweat:
St. Gloede wrote: July 8th, 2022, 8:42 am Oh, btw Sol, I see that you are doing the Canada challenge. There are a decent few Canadian noms, including some you have seen already.
I have already added all of the Canuck films available my streaming services to my watch-list for the month. I might hit you guys up for the others later.
St. Gloede wrote: July 8th, 2022, 9:01 am At the moment the states with the least nominations are Animation (9), Africa (10) and Latin America (10). Animation has traditionally been the most difficult I believe, while Africa only had enough successful nominees to get its own slate last year.

Edit: You can follow the progress from the stats below the nominations list, which is currently in row 131-134.
Thanks. I'll make an animated film one of my next two nominees then.

And having won the last African Challenge, I can probably suggest some films for others to potentially nominate, though nothing that would get a 3/3 from me personally. Edit: Or not. Turns out most of the films that I was thinking of were from 2017 or 2018. Just Talking About Trees, which looked like it failed previously, and I Am All Girls would seem to count, but neither are films I would give a 3 to as mentioned.
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Oh, and I'm assuming anything that I nominate from Australia or New Zealand has to fit into English Language Independents to count (unless Oceania is considered part of Asia for the festival).
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