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Country Poll: Philippines [Deadline: August 31, 2022]

500<400, Favourite 1001 movies, Doubling the Canon, Film World Cup and many other votes
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Country Poll: Philippines [Deadline: August 31, 2022]

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Overview of the Project
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August 2022: Philippines


Rules
* You may vote for a minimum of 5 and a maximum of 20 titles.
* Feature films, documentaries, shorts, made-for-tv movies, direct-to-video movies, TV mini-series, and TV episodes from anthology series are all eligible.
* One country per film - IMDB is used as a guideline, but Fergenaprido will be the final arbiter for uncertain cases.
* All ballots are considered ranked unless otherwise stated.
* You must include a list of bare imdb URLs along with your ballot (preferably within a spoiler tag), otherwise your ballot will be disqualified.

Scoring
For ranked ballots, the top-ranked title will receive the number of points equal to the number of titles on the ballot, with each successive title receiving one point less.
I.e. A list with 20 titles means #1 has 20 points, #2 has 19 points, and #20 has 1 point; a list with 5 titles means #1 has 5 points, #2 has 4 points, and #5 has 1 point.

For unranked ballots, each title will receive an equal share of the total points that would have been allotted it the ballot had been ranked.
I.e. A list with 20 titles means each title would receive 10.5 points; a list with 5 titles means each title would receive 3 points.

Resources:
Filipino (Pinoy) films sorted by number of votes*
Filipino films sorted by your rating on imdb*
Wikipedia article on Cinema of the Philippines
*due to imdb allowing films to be attributed to more than one country, many titles in this filter may be ineligible for this poll if the Philippines is not the primary country of production. Decisions about uncertain films will be listed in the second post of this thread.

Many thanks to Rufus-T & gromit82 for the framework from the Year by Year polls, and to maxwelldeux for the Excel template.

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Fully ranked lists of 20 titles unless otherwise indicated
Deadline: 11:59:59 p.m. August 31, 2022, UTC -10 (Hawaii Time)
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If you have any eligibility questions, please mention them in this thread. This post will act as a summary of all decisions (films listed in alphabetical order in each section).

Final Decisions
Batang West Side - Philippines/USA - Filipino film, eligible
Metro Manila (2013) - UK/Philippines - British film, not eligible


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eligibility question: TNT Jackson, The Big Doll House
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zomgmouse wrote: July 5th, 2022, 11:59 pm eligibility question: TNT Jackson, The Big Doll House
Is that one title or two? link, please.
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Fergenaprido wrote: July 6th, 2022, 12:09 am
zomgmouse wrote: July 5th, 2022, 11:59 pm eligibility question: TNT Jackson, The Big Doll House
Is that one title or two? link, please.
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TNT Jackson https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072245/
The Big Doll House https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066830/
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zomgmouse wrote: July 6th, 2022, 12:11 am
Fergenaprido wrote: July 6th, 2022, 12:09 am
zomgmouse wrote: July 5th, 2022, 11:59 pm eligibility question: TNT Jackson, The Big Doll House
Is that one title or two? link, please.
Sorry:

TNT Jackson https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072245/
The Big Doll House https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066830/
Thanks. I never realized how many exploitation pics were made in the Philippines.

Both appear to be New World films pictures, which is the only credited film company, and it's American. But there is a lot of local talent involved, and some Filipino companies are listed as uncredited. It's another situation where I'm not overly familiar with the films, so additional information that others could link me to would be helpful.
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TraverseTown wrote: July 5th, 2022, 8:58 pm 3. The Muthers
4. Black Mama, White Mama
Same for these two. imdb lists Philippines first, but the only/main production company for each is American, so more info from some exploitation aficionados would be appreciated.
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Fergenaprido wrote: July 6th, 2022, 12:33 am
zomgmouse wrote: July 6th, 2022, 12:11 am
Fergenaprido wrote: July 6th, 2022, 12:09 am

Is that one title or two? link, please.
Sorry:

TNT Jackson https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072245/
The Big Doll House https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066830/
Thanks. I never realized how many exploitation pics were made in the Philippines.

Both appear to be New World films pictures, which is the only credited film company, and it's American. But there is a lot of local talent involved, and some Filipino companies are listed as uncredited. It's another situation where I'm not overly familiar with the films, so additional information that others could link me to would be helpful.
if it helps, for TNT Jackson at least Wikipedia lists Premiere Productions, Inc. and HPS Films as production companies (which seem to have a lot of Filipino credits) and New World as the distributors - and the director is from the Philippines. Whereas The Big Bird House has an American director and New World produced and distributed
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Fergenaprido wrote: July 6th, 2022, 12:36 am
TraverseTown wrote: July 5th, 2022, 8:58 pm 3. The Muthers
4. Black Mama, White Mama
Same for these two. imdb lists Philippines first, but the only/main production company for each is American, so more info from some exploitation aficionados would be appreciated.
Both directors are Filippino and never made films anywhere but the Philippines. For both films, the cinematographer, on-set producers, and editor, as well as almost the entire crew, were Filippino, so this is not an instance of a production company flying out from US/Hollywood to film on location. The only foreigners on set were the lead actors (worth nothing that the supporting cast of both films are also largely Filippino).

For Black Mama, White Mama, the production company was co-owned by an American and a Filippino, and only ever made films in the Philippines.
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1 . Imburnal (2008) - 4,5 - Sewer
2 . Florentina Hubaldo, CTE (2012) - 4,5
3 . Mula Sa Kung Ano ang Noon (2014) - 4,5 - From What Is Before
4 . How to Disappear Completely (2013) - 4
5 . Ang Babaeng Humayo (2016) - 4 - The Woman Who Left
6 . Norte, Hangganan ng Kasaysayan (2013) - 4 - Norte, the End of History
7 . Buenas Noches, España (2011) - 4
8 . Kun Maupay Man it Panahon (2021) - 4 - Whether the Weather Is Fine
9 . Ebolusyon ng Isang Pamilyang Pilipino (2004) - 4 - Evolution of a Filipino Family
10 . Melancholia (2008) - 4
11 . Autohystoria (2007) - 4
12 . Insiang (1976) - 4
13 . Mababangong Bangungot (1977) - 4 - Perfumed Nightmare
14 . Nervous Translation (2017) - 4
15 . Lahi, Hayop (2020) - 4 - Genus Pan
16 . Ruined Heart: Another Lovestory between a Criminal & a Whore (2014) - 4
17 . Captive (2012) - 4
18 . Kinatay (2009) - 3,5 - The Execution of P
19 . Lumaban ka, Satanas (1983) - 3,5 - The Killing of Satan
20 . Roco, ang Batang Bato (1982) - 3,5 - Boy God
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★★★★½ | 9.2
01. Serbis (Mendoza | 2008)

★★★★¼ | 8.8
02. Evolution of a Filipino Family (Diaz | 2004)
03. From What Is Before (Diaz | 2014)

★★★★ | 8.4
04. Slingshot (Mendoza | 2007)
05. Florentina Hubaldo, CTE (Diaz | 2012)
06. Insiang (Brocka | 1976)
07. Captive (Mendoza | 2011)
08. Manila in the Claws of Neon (Brocka | (1975)

★★★¾ | 8.0
09. Norte, the End of History (Diaz | 2013)

★★★½ | 7.6
10. The Masseur (Mendoza | 2005)
11. Heremias – Book One: The Legend of the Lizard Princess (Diaz | 2006)
12. Kinatay – The Execution of P. (Mendoza | 2009)
13. Ma’ Rosa (Mendoza | 2016)
14. Maynila (Martin/Alix jr. | 2009)
15. Death in the Land of Encantos (Diaz | 2007)
16. Century of Birthing (Diaz | 2011)
17. Lola (Mendoza | 2009)

★★★¼ | 7.2
18. Melancholia (Diaz | 2008)
19. The Woman Who Left (Diaz | 2016)
20. Perfumed Nightmare (Tahimik | 1977)
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joachimt wrote: July 8th, 2022, 3:24 pm 3. Metro Manila
This British film is not eligible, as mentioned above.
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Fergenaprido wrote: July 8th, 2022, 3:37 pm
joachimt wrote: July 8th, 2022, 3:24 pm 3. Metro Manila
This British film is not eligible, as mentioned above.
I updated my post. Title removed.
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Placeholder for now:

01. Maynila sa mga Kuko ng Liwanag (1975)
02. Ang Pagdadalaga ni Maximo Oliveros (2005)
03. Insiang (1976)
04. Puting Paalam (1997)
05. Imburnal (2008)
06. Jaguar (1979)
07. Tinimbang ka Ngunit Kulang (1974)
08. Anak Dalita (1956)
09. Biyaya ng Lupa (1959)
10. Lumaban ka, Satanas (1983)
11. Masahista (2005)
12. Prologo sa Ang Dakilang Desaparecido (2013)
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1. Maynila sa mga kuko ng liwanag [1975, Manila in the Claws of Light]
2. Norte, hangganan ng kasaysayan [2013, Norte, the End of History]
3. Insiang [1976]
4. Mababangong Bangungot [1977, Perfumed Nightmare]
5. Batch '81 [1982]
6. Tinimbang ka ngunit kulang [1974, Weighed But Found Wanting]
7. Kinatay [2009, The Execution of P]
8. How to Disappear Completely [2013]
9. Ruined Heart: Another Lovestory Between a Criminal & a Whore [2014]
10. Lahi, Hayop [2020, Genus Pan]
11. Independencia [2009]
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I won't pretend to be a major fan of Philippine cinema, but I watched a few films for this poll and managed to concoct a decent top 5.
  1. Magnifico (2003)
  2. Maynila sa mga kuko ng liwanag (1975)
  3. Insiang (1976)
  4. Lola (2009)
  5. Norte, Hangganan ng Kasaysayan (2013)
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After a few weeks of exploring Filipino cinema I can finally muster a meager list of five films. I may add to this before the month is up although my focus will now be shifting to Senegalese cinema to ensure I am capable of producing a list for the next poll in the series. I'm a little ashamed that my list only comprises of films by two directors but their bleak and depressing films strike a chord with me unlike any other Filipino cinema I have seen so far.

Thanks for inspiring me to explore areas of cinema I'm not overly familiar with Ferg, I'm enjoying expanding my horizons and I'm determined to submit a list for every country of your project, providing I can find enough films worthy of making a list.

1. Manila in the Claws of Light
2. Kinatay
3. Weighed But Found Wanting
4. Service
5. Insiang
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01. Norte, hangganan ng kasaysayan (2013)

02. Maynila sa mga kuko ng liwanag (1975)
03. Kinatay (2009)
04. Tatlong taong walang Diyos (1976)
05. Mula sa kung ano ang noon (2014)
06. Mababangong Bangungot (1977)
07. Bayaning 3rd World (2000)
08. Ang babaeng humayo (2016)

09. Insiang (1976)
10. Itim (1976)
11. Tinimbang ka ngunit kulang (1974)
12. Oro, Plata, Mata (1982)
13. Independencia (2009)
14. Kagadanan sa banwaan ning mga engkanto (2007)
15. Cain at Abel (1982)
16. Kisapmata (1981)
17. Kakabakaba ka ba? (1980)
18. Ebolusyon ng isang pamilyang Pilipino (2004)
19. Babae sa breakwater (2003)
20. Todo todo teros (2006)

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filmbantha wrote: August 6th, 2022, 6:17 pm After a few weeks of exploring Filipino cinema I can finally muster a meager list of five films. I may add to this before the month is up although my focus will now be shifting to Senegalese cinema to ensure I am capable of producing a list for the next poll in the series. I'm a little ashamed that my list only comprises of films by two directors but their bleak and depressing films strike a chord with me unlike any other Filipino cinema I have seen so far.

Thanks for inspiring me to explore areas of cinema I'm not overly familiar with Ferg, I'm enjoying expanding my horizons and I'm determined to submit a list for every country of your project, providing I can find enough films worthy of making a list.
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Thanks for taking the time to participate! I must admit it's a nice feeling to log into icm and see films in my activity feed that others have watched because of this project. I noticed it with OldAle1 and Brazilian films last month.

Out of curiosity, how many Filipino films did you have to see to come up with that list of 5? I have a similar goal as you, but I want to be able to field a full ballot for each poll if possible. So far so good except for NZ, which was close but my computer problems prevented me from seeing more films before the deadline. For the Philippines & Senegal I'm only about 1/2 of the way there, so hopefully enough new watches will jive with me enough to complete my ballots.

Speaking of which, I'll add my own preliminary ballot now.

1. Ang pagdadalaga ni Maximo Oliveros [The Blossoming of Maximo Oliveros] (2005)
2. Insiang (1976)
3. Tinimbang ka ngunit kulang [Weighed But Found Wanting] (1974)
4. Maynila sa mga kuko ng liwanag [Manila in the Claws of Light] (1975)
5. Bwakaw (2012)
6. Sibak [Midnight Dancers] (1994)
7. Oliver (1983)
8. Tatlong taóng walang Diyos [Three Godless Years / Three Years Without God] (1976)
9. Doors: Team B Terror (2018)
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Fergenaprido wrote: August 6th, 2022, 6:58 pm
filmbantha wrote: August 6th, 2022, 6:17 pm After a few weeks of exploring Filipino cinema I can finally muster a meager list of five films. I may add to this before the month is up although my focus will now be shifting to Senegalese cinema to ensure I am capable of producing a list for the next poll in the series. I'm a little ashamed that my list only comprises of films by two directors but their bleak and depressing films strike a chord with me unlike any other Filipino cinema I have seen so far.

Thanks for inspiring me to explore areas of cinema I'm not overly familiar with Ferg, I'm enjoying expanding my horizons and I'm determined to submit a list for every country of your project, providing I can find enough films worthy of making a list.
:wub:

Thanks for taking the time to participate! I must admit it's a nice feeling to log into icm and see films in my activity feed that others have watched because of this project. I noticed it with OldAle1 and Brazilian films last month.

Out of curiosity, how many Filipino films did you have to see to come up with that list of 5? I have a similar goal as you, but I want to be able to field a full ballot for each poll if possible. So far so good except for NZ, which was close but my computer problems prevented me from seeing more films before the deadline. For the Philippines & Senegal I'm only about 1/2 of the way there, so hopefully enough new watches will jive with me enough to complete my ballots.
I had only seen one film worthy of making my list prior to my recent Filipino viewings and that was Kinatay. I've watched 10 films over the past month and have had a pretty good hit rate, as that enabled me to add a further four to the list. I've seen 18 features in total according to IMDB so there is a hell of a lot more to discover and I'm sure the results of this poll will be a great guide. I am very intrigued by the films of Lav Diaz, though my penchant for watching long films in a single sitting means I haven't found the time to embark on that journey just yet.

I was also hoping to field full ballots of 20 films but i think that was over ambitious considering my lack of cinematic knowledge for many countries! The poll results offer a nice incentive to follow up on films I should seek out next though, and reading through the comments it's clear that many others are taking a similar approach of watching films to expand their list prior to their poll submission :cheers:
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filmbantha wrote: August 6th, 2022, 7:17 pmI am very intrigued by the films of Lav Diaz, though my penchant for watching long films in a single sitting means I haven't found the time to embark on that journey just yet.
I've also held off on Diaz for the same reason, but there are two of his shorter films (among others) on Mubi clocking in at 1:10 and 1:20. They seem like "lesser works" of his, but at least it's a place to start.
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Fergenaprido wrote: August 6th, 2022, 7:32 pm
filmbantha wrote: August 6th, 2022, 7:17 pmI am very intrigued by the films of Lav Diaz, though my penchant for watching long films in a single sitting means I haven't found the time to embark on that journey just yet.
I've also held off on Diaz for the same reason, but there are two of his shorter films (among others) on Mubi clocking in at 1:10 and 1:20. They seem like "lesser works" of his, but at least it's a place to start.
Thanks for the tip, I'll see if can squeeze one of them in before the deadline
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