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zzzorf’s 1000 Movie Recommendations For All Cinephiles

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A few days back I put the finishing touches on my definitive list (it just took me a few days to copy it over to iCM to post here) which I have titled zzzorf’s 1000 Movie Recommendations For All Cinephiles. This is not a list of my favourite movies but instead exactly what the title says, 1000 movies that I believe everyone should watch, i.e. my version of the Movies you Should See Before You Die. I would love to hear everyone's feedback on the list, especially because this forum has had a major impact on the list with movies I have found through various endeavours here such as 500<400, World/Managers Cup, DtC and the iCMFFF. While I know noone here will use this a must-watch list if anyone takes any recommendations from it I would love to hear your thoughts here. I plan to update this every month to further improve the list and make it more definitive. Following is the main list link and the iCM one made specifically for the forum's use.

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I do appreciate that you've included Lost Skeleton of Cadavra, thus I know I can trust your judgement!

Do you have a breakdown by decades? It looks like 60% of the list is post-2000, which seems rather bold, especially if the 50s only get 30 entries, but I suppose I just don't have the same preference for contemporary cinema. Otherwise it looks like a healthy mix of canon and personal favorites.
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Minkin wrote: April 12th, 2022, 7:57 pm I do appreciate that you've included Lost Skeleton of Cadavra, thus I know I can trust your judgement!

Do you have a breakdown by decades? It looks like 60% of the list is post-2000, which seems rather bold, especially if the 50s only get 30 entries, but I suppose I just don't have the same preference for contemporary cinema. Otherwise it looks like a healthy mix of canon and personal favorites.
I tied to explain the breakdown in the intro of the list but the idea is it is proportionate to how much I've seen from each decade. Currently it sits at a touch over 17% for each decade. It made it awkward for some decades but as I watch more the numbers will even out. The current breakdown is:
1880s 0
1890s 2
1900s 3
1910s 7
1920s 15
1930s 17
1940s 26
1950s 30
1960s 33
1970s 59
1980s 88
1990s 138
2000s 231
2010s 321
2020s 30
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Nearly every Cinephile (a person who is fond of the cinema) has heard of definitive movie lists such as 1001 Movies to See Before You Die and They Shoot Movies, Don't They? (and it's horror counterpart They Shoot Zombies, Don't They?), lists that have been compiled by critics or their rankings (respectively), to name the best movies of all time. Well this list takes their idea but puts a more personal spin on it.
FYI, the project is called They Shoot Pictures, Don't They? ;)

Also, I think TSZDT isn't as widely known as TSPDT, and they are not affiliated. Migtysparks was inspired by Bill's idea, but runs it completely independently.
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Fergenaprido wrote: April 13th, 2022, 2:17 am
Nearly every Cinephile (a person who is fond of the cinema) has heard of definitive movie lists such as 1001 Movies to See Before You Die and They Shoot Movies, Don't They? (and it's horror counterpart They Shoot Zombies, Don't They?), lists that have been compiled by critics or their rankings (respectively), to name the best movies of all time. Well this list takes their idea but puts a more personal spin on it.
FYI, the project is called They Shoot Pictures, Don't They? ;)

Also, I think TSZDT isn't as widely known as TSPDT, and they are not affiliated. Migtysparks was inspired by Bill's idea, but runs it completely independently.
Whoops, what a silly mistake. And I know they aren't affiliated, I didn't think I was saying they were.
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April 2022 Update
After a month of mainly focusing on obscurities for the 2022 Doubling the Canon update this month saw quite a few lesser known movies make the list with a lot of bigger budget stuff falling off.

In
Samsara (2011)
Bad Luck Banging or Loony Porn (2021)
The Colors of the Mountain (2011)
The Interview (1998)
Last Life in the Universe (2003)
Tigers Are Not Afraid (2017)
The Man Who Thought Life (1969)
The Demilitarized Zone (1965)
Tsogt taij (1945)
A Trip Down Market Street Before the Fire (1906)
Closet Land (1991)
Beauty and the Dogs (2017)
Moana (1926)
The Cameraman's Revenge (1912)
System Crasher (2019)
Heritage (1935)
Midnight (2021)

Out
Ready Player One (2018)
Save the Last Dance (2001)
Bohemian Rhapsody (2018)
GoodFellas (1990)
I Am Sam (2001)
A Quiet Place (2018)
Legally Blonde (2001)
To Kill a Mockingbird (1962)
Laura (1944)
Bend it Like Beckham (2002)
Army of Darkness (1992)
White Fang (2018)
Metropolis (1927)
The Insects Christmas (1913)
Sound of Metal (2019)
Searching (2018)
Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021)
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This certainly isn't your garden-variety 1000 movies U must C.... Fascinating list. I've seen 306. Lots I've never even heard of, and I'm not exactly "incinerary". Good for you.
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Hiya, thanks for the interesting list, which I will certainly look into more as lots of films I didn't recognise.

I would like more information about the specific nature of the project, what is its purpose. Is it meant to be a "here's the breadth of what cinema can offer", if so there seem to be blindspots, for example, on my scan, I didn't see any experimental cinema. I can understand why a favourites list may not have any as some people do not like experimental cinema, but why would a roadmap for cinephiles type of list not have any? Having fallen in love with cinema all over again watching Lewis Klahr's Sixty-six last night (she is a generous lover, every other month seems to be a honeymoon xD), it just felt like a blindspot.

What is the overlap between this and your favourites list? Have you put in any films that you do not in fact like?

I found the inclusion of the below, a quick sample, particularly tricky to square as "must see":

aniara
the lost room
south park movie
summer wars
la fille de nulle part
dead snow
l'annulaire

I wouldn't question these on a favourites list but on a list of exemplars, if that's what it is, I don't see how these fit. Maybe if I had some conception of what you feel the purpose of cinephilia is I would understand more. I think I got some sort of a sense here of it being escapism, like if it had a title of Dream Factory I wouldn't have blinked. Edgy political cinema seemed absent too.

I enjoyed reading through this project and will keep an eye out for how it evolves. I've got circa 1 year left on a decade long project to make a 1,000 favourites list so I appreciate the labour and love that go into these lists.
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OK let's see if I can try to explain the purpose, hopefully it may explain some things. While not a list of Favourites, basically I do need to enjoy the movie somewhat to add it to the list. Yeah I have a handful on there which I am not a fan of but I will explain them soon. To be a proper "breadth of cinema" idea I would have had to dig more into my disliked a lot more. I give The Godfather and 2001 as examples. Any real list like that should have those particular movies as an automatic inclusion but as I didn't like them at all they don't make the cut. As to the blindspots well unfortunately that can come from things like not having seen anything much of that sort, or just not really enjoying what I have seen. In particular you name experimental, well honestly it comes down to not really enjoying it. But there are always exceptions to the rule and I do have some Avant-Garde even though the two genres go hand in hand.

While I am making it sound like a list of 1000 favourites I put up my recent 1001 Favourites I put up for our recent poll, https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/my+f ... es/zzzorf/ . While there is some overlap between the lists it is conceptually different. As the name for this list states, they are 1000 movies I recommend others see, I used the term Cinephile just for the fact that a regular movie viewer wouldn't even know where to look for most of them, let alone like them. There are plenty of movies in my Favourite list that I would just claim as my weird taste and don't think anyone but a small handful should watch. This recommendation list is more movies that I would be more likely say, hey have you ever seen this, no, well you should. That's where those handful of movies I don't necessarily like come in. I didn't find much enjoyment but I see their appeal and would (and in some cases have) given them to others to watch. However the thread that holds those movies in this list is thin and they may leave in the future.

As to the list of movies you give above, probably only South Park has a strong hold on its spot in the list, the others (and quite a few more) have to fight for their spot every month (granted I'm only about to do my second update tomorrow) as new movies are seen and changes are needed to be made.

So yeah basically not a road map for cinephiles but simply my 1000 Movie Recommendations for all Cinephiles.
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May 2022 Update
This month was a mixture of recommended movies/my own choice means a smaller update this month but also harder to decide inclusion/deletion.

In
Kapana (2020)
Curious Alice (1970)
Gaslight (1944)
Autumn Sonata (1978)
The Sadness (2021)
Alice in Wonderland (1966)
Our Lady of the Nile (2019)
The White Ribbon (2009)

Out
Willow (1988)
In the Aisles (2018)
Halloween (1978)
Heavenly Creatures (1994)
Superman (1978)
Cape Fear (1962)
This is Not a Buriel, It's a Resurrection (2019)
O (2001)
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June 2022 Update
Despite June being the smallest month of amount of movies seen in a long time (I only just cracked 50), this month sees 2 more entrants then last month.

In
Spider-Man (1978)
Dogtooth (2009)
The Crime of Padre Amaro (2002)
Wrestling with a Memory (2008)
Hotel Coppelia (2021)
Pompo: The Cinephile (2021)
Never Rarely Sometimes Always (2020)
The Face of Time (2000)
Bound (1996)
New Order (2020)

Out
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978)
The Bourne Identity (2002)
Antwone Fisher (2002)
Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005)
Us (2019)
Beauty and the Beast (1946)
Josep (2020)
Serendipity (2001)
The Matrix (1999)
Tenere (2020)
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July 2022 Update
While I did have a lot of rewatches in July focusing on movies from lists from fellow cinephiles saw a good influx of new-to-me watches

In
Adoption (1975)
The Grass Is Greener (1960)
The Annunciation (1984)
Surviving Life (Theory and Practice) (2010)
Travelling Circus (1988)
Red Angel (1966)
The Long Walk (2019)
The Rocket (2013)
Liborio (2021)
This Much I Know to Be True (2022)
Paper Moon (1973)

Out
Spider-Man (1978)
Almodou (2002)
Camp de Thiaroye (1988)
Roma (2018)
Killer Klowns from Outter Space (1988)
The Unforgiven (1960)
Little Women (2019)
I Am Mother (2018)
Dr. Plonk (2007)
Speed (1994)
Drunken Master (1978)
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