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Apparently this is now an international hit (esp. also on TikTok), and Disney didn't expect it as it wasn't their Oscar entry.

It is indeed a superb song i think. And what I like about is especially how the song fits into the film, like a real musical and how it doesn't center on one person. It also has a different vibe than most Disney songs, a vibe i like much more. It is synchronized very well with the animations in the film. It's really an ensemble cast musical song.
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: January 17th, 2022, 12:32 pm This is definitely one of the more essential COVID films

I was surprised that there were so few covid films yet - especially actors using masks, but netflix is going to release one soon too (i think it was asian). But masks used in films isn't really a thing so far, or films set during the covid pandemic (maybe because after the pandemic it might date more), but now it is ridicilous, like films ignore it is happening. Of course, you don't have to use masks in a film that is not set today (in historic or films set in the future, except if the film is set during the covid pandemic especially as a historic film, or if the masks used for a different reason, like in a sci-fi film). Films about covid itself will probably not work that well, unless maybe it is more documentary-like.

What could be filmed for example is the story of a Chinese woman that was doing blind dates, and got stuck with a stranger when the stranger invited her for a dinner, and the entire region went in a lockdown as China is quite direct about those measures. That could work, esp. for romance or a romcom film, maybe also drama but you risk that it might drag a bit too long. Comedy films about the lockdown (in a western world) could work too. I imagine a Jonah Hill / James Franco / Seth Rogen collab could work in such a setting.
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I came across this film the other day.

Ok, I watched the trailer, and now I have a lot more questions. Apparently this is 2nd in the "Barbie and Kendra" series - who also raid Area 51 in the 3rd film.
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Lakigigar wrote: January 19th, 2022, 9:17 am What could be filmed for example is the story of a Chinese woman that was doing blind dates, and got stuck with a stranger when the stranger invited her for a dinner, and the entire region went in a lockdown as China is quite direct about those measures. That could work, esp. for romance or a romcom film, maybe also drama but you risk that it might drag a bit too long. Comedy films about the lockdown (in a western world) could work too. I imagine a Jonah Hill / James Franco / Seth Rogen collab could work in such a setting.
Someone beat you to it: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13772442/reference

Some more COVID themed films for your perusal:

76 Days
Coronation
The First Wave
Totally Under Control
In the Same Breath
Fauci
Locked Down
Together
Stuck Together
Stop and Go [aka Recovery]
The Same Storm (hasn't gotten a wide release yet, I think)
Bad Luck Banging, or Looney Porn
Ayar

A few of these are documentaries. A bunch are scrappy indie comedies (which by their nature can be conceived, produced, and rushed to release quickly). When you consider the time it takes to conceive of, plan, and develop films, and then the long time they often spend on the festival circuit before a wide release, we'll probably get a ton of COVID-themed films with characters all wearing masks in the next 1-2 years. That, or maybe we won't - maybe directors are avoiding it because it's just too close to home right now. :shrug: I guess we'll see?
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outdoorcats wrote: January 19th, 2022, 6:24 pm
Lakigigar wrote: January 19th, 2022, 9:17 am What could be filmed for example is the story of a Chinese woman that was doing blind dates, and got stuck with a stranger when the stranger invited her for a dinner, and the entire region went in a lockdown as China is quite direct about those measures. That could work, esp. for romance or a romcom film, maybe also drama but you risk that it might drag a bit too long. Comedy films about the lockdown (in a western world) could work too. I imagine a Jonah Hill / James Franco / Seth Rogen collab could work in such a setting.
Someone beat you to it: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13772442/reference
The film probably did beat the real events in China as well that i've heard about, because that was only very recently reported. But yeah, it probably explains somewhat partially the concept of twin films. I'm not a director or writer though.
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Hey guys, hope you're all well and sorry I've been awol the last few months; I just haven't had any inclination to watch movies lately. I have, however, still been working on making my own, so in the name of hypocrisy, if anyone's interested, here's the final trailer for my upcoming sci-fi documentary hybrid, The Mode:

https://vimeo.com/666701964

Very legally featuring tunes by Joni Mitchell, DJ Muggs, and Alice Coltrane. Hope to have the film itself finished before fall, with all original music; might be of interest to those into Lessons of Darkness, Die Parallelstrasse, La jetee, that kind of stuff.
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prodigalgodson wrote: January 21st, 2022, 12:01 am Hey guys, hope you're all well and sorry I've been awol the last few months; I just haven't had any inclination to watch movies lately. I have, however, still been working on making my own, so in the name of hypocrisy, if anyone's interested, here's the final trailer for my upcoming sci-fi documentary hybrid, The Mode:

https://vimeo.com/666701964

Very legally featuring tunes by Joni Mitchell, DJ Muggs, and Alice Coltrane. Hope to have the film itself finished before fall, with all original music; might be of interest to those into Lessons of Darkness, Die Parallelstrasse, La jetee, that kind of stuff.
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serri wrote: January 21st, 2022, 12:07 am
prodigalgodson wrote: January 21st, 2022, 12:01 am Hey guys, hope you're all well and sorry I've been awol the last few months; I just haven't had any inclination to watch movies lately. I have, however, still been working on making my own, so in the name of hypocrisy, if anyone's interested, here's the final trailer for my upcoming sci-fi documentary hybrid, The Mode:

https://vimeo.com/666701964

Very legally featuring tunes by Joni Mitchell, DJ Muggs, and Alice Coltrane. Hope to have the film itself finished before fall, with all original music; might be of interest to those into Lessons of Darkness, Die Parallelstrasse, La jetee, that kind of stuff.
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7wgea/ ... censorship

Fight Club is being released in China with a totally different "Law Conquers All" ending.
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Yups, that's required these days. Chinese directors have already found fun ways around it though, for instances making the bad guys the "heroes" of their film.
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Trailer for Guillermo del Toro's animated adaptation of Pinocchio (also a musical from what I've heard) just dropped. Releasing in December of this year.

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One of my favorite Youtube video series is the 'Anatomy of a Scene' on the New York Times channel, where directors of current release films offer commentary over pivotal moments from their latest works. And this one with Jane Campion's The Power of the Dog is especially fascinating, as it really delves into the psychological, homoerotic undertones running underneath the entire film. Major spoilers if you haven't yet seen the film, though.
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Good_Will_Harding wrote: January 26th, 2022, 2:56 am One of my favorite Youtube video series is the 'Anatomy of a Scene' on the New York Times channel, where directors of current release films offer commentary over pivotal moments from their latest works. And this one with Jane Campion's The Power of the Dog is especially fascinating, as it really delves into the psychological, homoerotic undertones running underneath the entire film. Major spoilers if you haven't yet seen the film, though.
Thanks for sharing. That was very interesting. I tend to think the scene would have been even better if Campion had followed her original instinct and done the scene without dialogue. The power of the images would have been enough.
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I agree that the original version of the scene would've been very interesting and could have definitely worked, but also feel like the dialogue from Phil about he and Bronco Henry is crucial in the film's central power dynamic finally shifting over to Peter in that moment. If anything, I'm far more curious about reading the original source material now.
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Good_Will_Harding wrote: January 26th, 2022, 11:55 pm If anything, I'm far more curious about reading the original source material now.
Same here. I feel I have to read that novel now. I get the impression that there are all these talented regionalist writers in American literature that I've only heard about from movies but who actually have cult popularity among certain literary people. For example, I only ever heard about Sarah Orne Jewett, Leonard Gardner, and Charles Portis after seeing The Lighthouse, Fat City, and True Grit.
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Lakigigar wrote: January 19th, 2022, 9:09 am

Apparently this is now an international hit (esp. also on TikTok), and Disney didn't expect it as it wasn't their Oscar entry.

It is indeed a superb song i think. And what I like about is especially how the song fits into the film, like a real musical and how it doesn't center on one person. It also has a different vibe than most Disney songs, a vibe i like much more. It is synchronized very well with the animations in the film. It's really an ensemble cast musical song.
Encanto songs are lit. I like this and Family intro song. But the one I love the most is the Surface Pressure song. Terrific beats and lyrics
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Recommend me a movie. These three will expire before the end of the month, but I'm not sure I can make it to watch all of them.
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/a+labordage/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/red+road/
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joachimt wrote: January 28th, 2022, 7:15 pm Recommend me a movie. These three will expire before the end of the month, but I'm not sure I can make it to watch all of them.
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/a+labordage/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/red+road/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/lap ... son+close/
I haven't seen the others, but I really liked Red Road. My favorite Andrea Arnold movie thus far.
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joachimt wrote: January 28th, 2022, 7:15 pm Recommend me a movie. These three will expire before the end of the month, but I'm not sure I can make it to watch all of them.
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/a+labordage/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/red+road/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/lap ... son+close/
Didn't you dislike the other Guillaume Brac you watched? If so I would avoid this one.

I would recommend L'Apollonide (Souvenirs de la maison close). I like it. Gave it just over 7/10
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zuma wrote: January 28th, 2022, 8:37 pm
joachimt wrote: January 28th, 2022, 7:15 pm Recommend me a movie. These three will expire before the end of the month, but I'm not sure I can make it to watch all of them.
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/a+labordage/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/red+road/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/lap ... son+close/
Didn't you dislike the other Guillaume Brac you watched? If so I would avoid this one.

I would recommend L'Apollonide (Souvenirs de la maison close). I like it. Gave it just over 7/10
Oh right, I see. I didn't remember the name. I watched L'île au trésor and thought it was really boring. If it's comparable, I'd better skip this one indeed. Thanks!
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Someone in the discord group made a painting/drawing of Kar-Wai Wong... It looks so good. Wow. It's why i'm sharing it here.
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Kublai Khan wrote: January 24th, 2022, 10:42 pm https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7wgea/ ... censorship

Fight Club is being released in China with a totally different "Law Conquers All" ending.
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blocho wrote: December 17th, 2021, 4:09 amSo when did this start? Is it connected at all to the Comedy Central Roast of Bruce Willis? Or does it go back to when Willis offered a $1 million bounty for Bin Laden?
Was there a first great movie. His filmography was always terrible from the get go as far as I can see. Made a lot of box office I guess.
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Died Hard, Pulp Fiction, Nobody's Fool, 12 Monkeys, The Sixth Sense, Sin City. You don't enjoy any of those? I don't like all of them, but I figure there's at least something there to appeal to many different tastes.
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blocho wrote: February 4th, 2022, 10:58 pm Died Hard, Pulp Fiction, Nobody's Fool, 12 Monkeys, The Sixth Sense, Sin City. You don't enjoy any of those? I don't like all of them, but I figure there's at least something there to appeal to many different tastes.
when I was 15. The guy literally doesn't act, taste evolves. I admit I haven't seen Moonrise Kingdom yet, which I saw he had a credit for, and I usually like Wes Anderson.
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We can look at it a bit more "objectively", courtesy of good 'ol IMDb.

In total Bruce Willis starred in 5 films with 8.0+/10 films and a decent 21 films with 7.0+/10.

Looking at the 37 films he made from his breakout mega hit Die Hard from 1987 to Unbreakable from 2000, we find 11 at 7+ and 13 at 5.9 or lower. This is also where we find 4 of his 5 films at 8+. His lowest rated film rests at 4.5. Clearly not the pickiest actor even then, but a large set of beloved titles.

Moving the goalposts and looking at 1987 to 2012, a period covering 74 films, we get two films rated lower, 4.4 and 4.1 but nothing under 4. We're also looking at 5 five 8+ films and 19 7+ films, but also 27 films at 5.9 or lower.

2012 was also interestingly the year he did two quite well-respected films with notable filmmakers, Moonrise Kingdom by Wes Anderson and Looper by Rian Johnson. Rated 7.8 and 7.4 respectively. He also worked with Stephen Frears this year, Lay the Favorite, but that was a failure with a 4.8 average.

However, let's look at the 34 films he's made from 2013 and onwards. Here we see only 1 film above 7.0, Split, in which he is on screen for less than a minute. Meanwhile 26 are at 5.9 or lower. More extremely 10 are rated 3.9 or lower. (From his lowest rated film was 4.5, now there are 17 below this rating)

The only sudden jump in quality I can see is however after 2019. He had 4 films rated 6.0 or higher from that year. The best being Motherless Brooklyn at 6.8, followed by Glass at 6.6, both films with defenders and a degree of critical success.

However, none of the 11 released films from 2020 and 2021 have a rating above 5.0... This is where it seems his priorities/opportunities changed.
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David Lynch's next project? Acting in Steven Spielberg's next film!

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Um. Interesting, anyway.
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I'd prefer to see Spielberg acting in a Lynch movie to Lynch acting in a Spielberg movie.
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Well, since we're doing dream scenarios, I'd love to see Eastwood and Spielberg retire.
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Mh, considering Eastwood's age of 91 years, I only see a small risk of him directing way too many movies you would be forced to suffer through ..
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Torgo wrote: February 5th, 2022, 7:57 pm Mh, considering Eastwood's age of 91 years, I only see a small risk of him directing way too many movies you would be forced to suffer through ..
People told me that a decade ago, but here we are ;)
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Onderhond wrote: February 5th, 2022, 9:23 pm
Torgo wrote: February 5th, 2022, 7:57 pm Mh, considering Eastwood's age of 91 years, I only see a small risk of him directing way too many movies you would be forced to suffer through ..
People told me that a decade ago, but here we are ;)
Manoel de Oliveira had 13 features released after his 91st birthday, and a whole mess of shorts, music videos, and contributions to multi-director projects.
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Youtube randomly delivered to me a lot of info on the Bruce Willis journey. Check out this video (it's long, but I only watched the first 20 minutes or so to get the big picture):



If you don't have time for the video, a lot of the info in it comes from this fascinating article. Apparently, many of these movies are tied back to a producer who was the inspiration for the character of Turtle on Entourage. There's plenty of other insanity as well: shady financing from convicted cocaine traffickers, Steven Seagal holding up a production to fly in hordes of Buddhist monks from Tibet for a blessing, etc.
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blocho wrote: February 5th, 2022, 9:46 pm Youtube randomly delivered to me a lot of info on the Bruce Willis journey. Check out this video (it's long, but I only watched the first 20 minutes or so to get the big picture):



If you don't have time for the video, a lot of the info in it comes from this fascinating article. Apparently, many of these movies are tied back to a producer who was the inspiration for the character of Turtle on Entourage. There's plenty of other insanity as well: shady financing from convicted cocaine traffickers, Steven Seagal holding up a production to fly in hordes of Buddhist monks from Tibet for a blessing, etc.
Ha! I was just going to post this. I for one will be watching the whole thing....Jay and Mike are like my best friends. Which is even more pathetic than Bruce Willis's career.
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My one quibble with the video, or at least the part of the video that I watched, was when they described these movies as an assembly line. I think that's an accurate description, but my objection is that movie production that resembles an assembly line is actually a traditional and widespread mode of production. Most famously, it was mastered by the studio system during the Hollywood golden age. It was only after the Paramount Decrees in the late 40s and the rise of TV in the 50s that movie production in Hollywood switched from mass production to a focus on packaging individual movies. Certainly, the old method of production delivered plenty of stinkers. It was focused on profits above all, but that didn't mean that quality movies weren't possible. Thomas Schatz's book on this topic is instructive. And so using "assembly line" in this video as a pejorative and in contrast to filmmaking "art" seems unfair to me.
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blocho wrote: February 5th, 2022, 10:00 pm My one quibble with the video, or at least the part of the video that I watched, was when they described these movies as an assembly line. I think that's an accurate description, but my objection is that movie production that resembles an assembly line is actually a traditional and widespread mode of production. Most famously, it was mastered by the studio system during the Hollywood golden age. It was only after the Paramount Decrees in the late 40s and the rise of TV in the 50s that movie production in Hollywood switched from mass production to a focus on packaging individual movies. Certainly, the old method of production delivered plenty of stinkers. It was focused on profits above all, but that didn't mean that quality movies weren't possible. Thomas Schatz's book on this topic is instructive. And so using "assembly line" in this video as a pejorative and in contrast to filmmaking "art" seems unfair to me.
Good point, but "assembly line" isn't really a phrase with any innate qualitative connotations, is it? It can be accurately used to describe both a General Motors factory in the 1950s turning out well-built, high-end Cadillacs, or a cheapo sweatshop factory today making billions of little plastic doodads. I think we need a term or a way to distinguish between a "quality" assembly line - in this case a quality work of collective art that is in fact a "product", and schlock. And we don't have a simple way to do that in English.

But Hollywood wasn't the only country with a studio system, contract stars, and an assembly line production method - certainly Japan has a lot of similarities in the classic era, as do (in varying degrees) France, Hong Kong, the UK and Mexico; probably India, and definitely Italy in the spaghetti western-giallo eras. So maybe somebody from one of those countries or someone who has followed those industries knows some better terminology? It's an interesting distinction in any case, the good assembly line vs the bad one. And with guys like Roger Corman somewhere in the middle.
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OldAle1 wrote: February 5th, 2022, 10:23 pm
blocho wrote: February 5th, 2022, 10:00 pm My one quibble with the video, or at least the part of the video that I watched, was when they described these movies as an assembly line. I think that's an accurate description, but my objection is that movie production that resembles an assembly line is actually a traditional and widespread mode of production. Most famously, it was mastered by the studio system during the Hollywood golden age. It was only after the Paramount Decrees in the late 40s and the rise of TV in the 50s that movie production in Hollywood switched from mass production to a focus on packaging individual movies. Certainly, the old method of production delivered plenty of stinkers. It was focused on profits above all, but that didn't mean that quality movies weren't possible. Thomas Schatz's book on this topic is instructive. And so using "assembly line" in this video as a pejorative and in contrast to filmmaking "art" seems unfair to me.
Good point, but "assembly line" isn't really a phrase with any innate qualitative connotations, is it?
Agreed. It felt to me in the video they were using it pejoratively, especially around 18:45, but reviewing what they said, I realize now that they're giving a negative valence to the movies produced by the assembly line in question rather than assembly lines in general.
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