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Yes, I had it but have recovered.
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: May 13th, 2021, 8:47 pm CDC says you won't have to wear masks in most indoor places when vaccinated. Meaning here in Canada multiple provinces are in strict lockdown with by far the worst wave. People have to wait 3-4 months to get their second dose. Shows how important vaccine rollout is for this virus.
Yeah, I'm not so sure how excited I am about this - who's going to police the maskless? And we all know that anti-maskers are often anti-vaxxers. BTW, a local vaccine refusing teacher - overweight, but no know co-morbidities - died of Covid last week. The don't believe she caught it at the school, but a number of students are in quarantine for other contacts. And they wonder why some families are reluctant to send kids back.

In the discussion of the new indoor mask policy, it was mentioned that this is something of a "carrot" to woo the hesitant but still willing. I hope it doesn't backfire, but again, a great experiment and time will tell.

I still intend to mask up for trips inside public buildings and don't plan to eat out. I wasn't big on crowds to begin with - so now I have an easy out for "no thank you"!
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xianjiro wrote: May 13th, 2021, 8:56 pm
Pretentious Hipster wrote: May 13th, 2021, 8:47 pm CDC says you won't have to wear masks in most indoor places when vaccinated. Meaning here in Canada multiple provinces are in strict lockdown with by far the worst wave. People have to wait 3-4 months to get their second dose. Shows how important vaccine rollout is for this virus.
Yeah, I'm not so sure how excited I am about this - who's going to police the maskless? And we all know that anti-maskers are often anti-vaxxers. BTW, a local vaccine refusing teacher - overweight, but no know co-morbidities - died of Covid last week. The don't believe she caught it at the school, but a number of students are in quarantine for other contacts. And they wonder why some families are reluctant to send kids back.

In the discussion of the new indoor mask policy, it was mentioned that this is something of a "carrot" to woo the hesitant but still willing. I hope it doesn't backfire, but again, a great experiment and time will tell.

I still intend to mask up for trips inside public buildings and don't plan to eat out. I wasn't big on crowds to begin with - so now I have an easy out for "no thank you"!
I see all kinds of potential problems. I've already seen the anti-mask rage to some extent - slow, simmering rage to be sure but still enough to worry about it. I was out buying beer the other night - in Illinois, which has usually had less mask controversy than WI from what I can see - and 3 of the 4 other people in the store, all white men, were maskless; this was the day before the announcement. One of them was carrying a firearm in a holster, like in a western for fuck's sake, and a pair of brass knuckles on the other hip. He looked at me, and the other masked patron (a black woman about twice his age and half his size) with barely concealed hatred and muttered something under his breath as he left that sounded... unpleasant. I've seen more unmasked people at this liquor store than anywhere else over the past year so maybe I should just stop going; shame as it's a small local place that's been in business 50 years and I'd like to support them more than most other places, but if they're not going to enforce the state regs, and if they're a haven for the angry and ignorant, perhaps I shoul stay away regardless.

Tomorrow is our third outdoor farmer's market, I'm wondering what that'll be like - last week just about everybody seemed to be masked. Now I really wish I'd gotten my first shot a few weeks earlier so I could just not worry about it all too much.
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Read WalMart's interesting approach to this. Any employee (though not necessarily throughout the entire building) can say "yes" to a question that they are vaccinated and thus be excused from wearing a mask at work. (Not universal as state/local regulations may still require masks.) There appears to be no plan to ask shoppers. But here's the interesting part - there's a $75 payment for showing proof of both shots for employees.

Now WalMart states "integrity" is a core principle in their operation and thus an employee's integrity is all that's needed to be maskless. I wonder how many will be caught saying they are vaccinated but can't find their card to claim their $75 payment.

To be honest, I just wish we could all be less 'judgy' as a country. If we really believe in freedom, then let people be free to do what they want to do - until such time that evidence is showing resurgent community transmission. I might have been a bit more supportive of dropping the mask mandate a month from now - I'm just not certain that 40-45% unvaccinated (or whatever the number is today) isn't a risk, especially with variants floating around and so much of the planet no where near getting vaccinated. But at this stage - short of "I got the Covid and I'm gunna spread it far and wide" - we're going to have to let people make the choices they feel are best for them. Some will feel more comfortable with a mask. Some won't feel comfortable showing their vaccination card to get into a venue. Some will feel a huge burden has been taken away and will start planning summer parties with friends and family.

The horse is out of the barn at this point - all we can decide to do is what feels right for us alone.
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Really wish they weren't relaxing mask restrictions. It's very foolish, and it definitely doesn't make me feel safe. The science-hating fucks will obviously just pretend they're vaxxed.
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kongs_speech wrote: May 15th, 2021, 1:15 am Really wish they weren't relaxing mask restrictions. It's very foolish, and it definitely doesn't make me feel safe. The science-hating fucks will obviously just pretend they're vaxxed.
I'm with you on that!
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It's pretty bad here. Whenever I'm buying groceries at the supermarket, I always see plenty of dicknoses and even some maskless people. What's worse, virtually no one observes the 1.5 meter rule. Sometimes I resort to using my shopping cart as a shield to keep others at a safe distance.

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Same here. but i just wear a face shield.

last time i was in a store, there was finally a guard who called out no-maskers. that's probably the first time I heard that.
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xianjiro wrote: May 13th, 2021, 8:49 pm
Armoreska wrote: May 13th, 2021, 1:47 pm
Knaldskalle wrote: May 11th, 2021, 5:19 pm I'm not happy unless you all suffer like I did... :D
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Asia is blowing up on that covid graph. Where else is it super viral right now other than India?
My understanding is things have also gotten bad in Nepal. Sri Lanka, Thailand, and Malaysia have also seen spikes. The other thing is the new Indian variant is quickly spreading - so far most of the anecdotal reports talk about Indian students or workers arriving with the variant. I believe there are also issues in Turkey - I saw a restriction on movement from Turkey, but nothing actually discussing what the situation is on the ground.
even Vietnam has hit the high
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Lammetje wrote: May 15th, 2021, 2:03 pm It's pretty bad here. Whenever I'm buying groceries at the supermarket, I always see plenty of dicknoses and even some maskless people. What's worse, virtually no one observes the 1.5 meter rule. Sometimes I resort to using my shopping cart as a shield to keep others at a safe distance.

I'm just so proud of the human race. Disciplined, patient, always willing to follow a few guidelines in order to save lives and improve the situation in hospitals. Yeah, really fucking proud.
OH shut up and give me all your toilet paper! :P
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Armoreska wrote: May 15th, 2021, 3:16 pm
xianjiro wrote: May 13th, 2021, 8:49 pm
Armoreska wrote: May 13th, 2021, 1:47 pm
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Asia is blowing up on that covid graph. Where else is it super viral right now other than India?
My understanding is things have also gotten bad in Nepal. Sri Lanka, Thailand, and Malaysia have also seen spikes. The other thing is the new Indian variant is quickly spreading - so far most of the anecdotal reports talk about Indian students or workers arriving with the variant. I believe there are also issues in Turkey - I saw a restriction on movement from Turkey, but nothing actually discussing what the situation is on the ground.
even Vietnam has hit the high
no info from China
I think the Chinese (mainland) have been pretty 'ruthless' about quarantining, contact tracing, etc any time there's been even a hint of another flareup. I'm also not certain, but I bet they are controlling in-migration very closely to keep from importing cases and even on Everest, I saw they are setting up a no-mans-land to keep separation between their climbers and those starting in Nepal. I've no idea where their vaccination campaign stands - as in percentage of population partially/fully vaccinated.
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from https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/16/media/sa ... index.html:
Gupta said the CDC "made a critical error here in surprising basically everyone with a very significant change." He added that just days before the announcement was made, he spoke to senior leaders at the CDC who told him indoor masking would probably be the last thing to be lifted because "it is so effective and it's not that hard to do in most situations — just to put a mask on."

Another point of concern is the lack of guidance on how best to implement these new guidelines, and if the loosened restrictions could potentially increase the risk of infection for those who cannot yet get vaccinated and the immuno-compromised.
This probably comes closest to helping me described my really jumbled opinion on this recent "about face." I get the desire to communicate to the vaccinated, "you really ARE safe" and spur the willing but unvaccinated to get in line, but would this have been better handled as of June 1 or some date in the near future to allow everyone to adjust to a new reality? Or upon a locality reaching a certain vaccination milestone?

Has any other country dropped mask wearing? I have been watching Europe reopen (as Asia seems to be locking down again).
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xianjiro wrote: May 17th, 2021, 12:53 am Has any other country dropped mask wearing? I have been watching Europe reopen (as Asia seems to be locking down again).
Until last week, wearing a mask was mandatory in Poland. In closed spaces it still is (thankfully), but out on the street we are no longer required to wear one.
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Oregon will allow people to go maskless outside but will require them to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 — and be able to prove it — to forgo masks in most public indoor settings.
from https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/ ... -says.html

a local amusement park was set to reopen this coming weekend, but when they said they would "allow people to go without masks provided they show a vaccination card upon entry", they were deluged by angry and abusive threats on FB, email, and telephone. They decided to stay closed for now.

I was a bit worried that still wearing a mask would lead to people assuming someone wasn't vaccinated and possible shaming. It seems pretty clear that WON'T be the problem here. I'm sure the culture war will continue along the same lines but see the right claiming to have science on their side (and therefore the left never did). :pinch:

While I totally expect state leadership to cave - probably later this week or at least before month's end - the current plan is to review indoor masking when we get to 70% vaccinated. I believe I read elsewhere that number includes single doses of the two dose regimens, but it didn't distinguish between partially and fully vaccinated outside of verification for going maskless indoors in today's messaging.
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Lammetje wrote: May 17th, 2021, 1:31 pm
xianjiro wrote: May 17th, 2021, 12:53 am Has any other country dropped mask wearing? I have been watching Europe reopen (as Asia seems to be locking down again).
Until last week, wearing a mask was mandatory in Poland. In closed spaces it still is (thankfully), but out on the street we are no longer required to wear one.
I never wore a mask (or other clothe) while walking other than because it was cold. That stuff wouldnt fly here.
How come that was mandatory in right wing Poland?


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Armoreska wrote: May 20th, 2021, 11:07 pm Any movies set in covid times yet?
I do not know of any theatrical release feature films, but I have seen plenty of films on streaming services.
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Armoreska wrote: May 20th, 2021, 11:07 pm
Lammetje wrote: May 17th, 2021, 1:31 pm
xianjiro wrote: May 17th, 2021, 12:53 am Has any other country dropped mask wearing? I have been watching Europe reopen (as Asia seems to be locking down again).
Until last week, wearing a mask was mandatory in Poland. In closed spaces it still is (thankfully), but out on the street we are no longer required to wear one.
I never wore a mask (or other clothe) while walking other than because it was cold. That stuff wouldnt fly here.
How come that was mandatory in right wing Poland?
I have no idea. But last summer I had to wear one in Spain and Andorra as well, even while hiking (unless there was not a soul in sight). So it ain't just Poland.
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Though it doesn't provide a great deal of sourcing, this article seems to have a pretty good run-down on what we know and are starting to understand. (BTW, it's worth reading until the end.)

https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/can-p ... ow-so-far/
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xianjiro wrote: May 31st, 2021, 6:46 am Though it doesn't provide a great deal of sourcing, this article seems to have a pretty good run-down on what we know and are starting to understand. (BTW, it's worth reading until the end.)

https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/can-p ... ow-so-far/
So, has the world of journalism just completely given up on basic editing now? That article is riddled with mistakes. How can I trust the information if they cannot even publish an article with proper spelling and punctuation?
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Getting my 2nd shot tomorrow. Here's the state of things in the stateline WI/IL area as I see it -

At the farmer's market on Saturday, for the first time I'd say the majority of folks were unmasked. It's outdoors of course so risk is much less, but it's also even in this early part of the season quite crowded - at the height of summer it's upwards of 1,000 people at a time packed into 2 city streets with about 3-4 meters wide between vendors on either side, you do the math. I still wore my mask and will this coming weekend for sure, and maybe next.

Went to two grocery stores today - stocking up in case this second vacc is bad and I don't feel like going out for a while, or y'know, there's another insurrection or something - and was pleased that most customers, and nearly all the staff at both were still masked. Older non-white people were certainly the most-masked, middle-aged and young white folks (men especially) the least - much as it has been all through the pandemic.

Number of new cases per day is getting down to the single digits or low doubles most days lately, in a county with 160k or so residents.

Maybe I'll go out to see a movie soon. This part of the nightmare seems to be ending.
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This province's stay-at-home lockdown ends tomorrow, but there's literally no difference except just the name.

I actually am not sure what their logic is at this point, even though I want them to play it safe. They want 60% of people in this province to be vaccinated before opening again. We are at 67% now but they want to wait until June 14th at the earliest.

At first my assumption was that they wanna wait 2 weeks for the second dose to kick in, but that's not applicable to this as people are still only getting their first (we have a 4 month gap between the two doses).

Second and third stage will be based on many second doses will happen with a slight increase of the first dose percentage.
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Got the second dose yesterday, now I'm all set (in a couple of weeks anyway). As with the first, felt fine for the first 3-4 hours afterward, then started to have some pain where the shot was given, and a bit of all-over pain and lethargy, which has continued through to today. Feel like I did a really hard day's physical work yesterday - something I haven't done in years and years - and that I've been doped up on pain relievers, which is even more rare for me. Good day to just sit and watch mindless tv and movies, don't think I'll be able to do much else. Drinking LOTS of water seems to help some, so I'd recommend that to those who haven't gotten their vax yet, at least. And not eating too much.
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Old news but just found out about this from a Brazilian. Pfizer got ghosted for months by Brazil's Ministry of Health. Not only rejecting the vaccine, but not even taking the time to say no.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7861069/brazil-covid-pfizer/
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Have my first maskless in-person class on Monday. Ironically, its also our last class before graduation lol
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Soooo... there's a Brazilian senator named Luis Carlos Heinze. He retweeted a fake meme about hydroxychloroquine being the cure for Covid thinking it was real. The fake meme was an image, and well... this was the doctor that said that that was the cure.

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I just got my second shot. No side-effects so far, just like after the first shot - apart from a sore upper arm. Now back to the vegan lifestyle. :)
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Lammetje wrote: June 10th, 2021, 3:28 pm I just got my second shot. No side-effects so far, just like after the first shot - apart from a sore upper arm. Now back to the vegan lifestyle. :)
so what, you were eating animals to combat Covid for a while? I hope you were only eating bats, civets, and pangolins then! :P
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xianjiro wrote: June 10th, 2021, 7:54 pm
Lammetje wrote: June 10th, 2021, 3:28 pm I just got my second shot. No side-effects so far, just like after the first shot - apart from a sore upper arm. Now back to the vegan lifestyle. :)
so what, you were eating animals to combat Covid for a while? I hope you were only eating bats, civets, and pangolins then! :P
The vaccine was tested on animals. :(
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OldAle1 wrote:I think four Aamir Khan films is enough for me. Unless I'm down to one film left on the IMDb Top 250 at some point and he's in that last film, at which point I'll watch it and then shoot myself having become the official-check-whoring person I hate.
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maxwelldeux wrote:If you asked me to kill my wife and pets OR watch Minions, I'd check the runtime and inquire about sobriety requirements before providing an answer.
Torgo wrote:Lammetje is some kind of hybrid Anna-Kendrick-lamb-entity to me and I find that very cool.
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Lammetje wrote: June 11th, 2021, 1:35 am
xianjiro wrote: June 10th, 2021, 7:54 pm
Lammetje wrote: June 10th, 2021, 3:28 pm I just got my second shot. No side-effects so far, just like after the first shot - apart from a sore upper arm. Now back to the vegan lifestyle. :)
so what, you were eating animals to combat Covid for a while? I hope you were only eating bats, civets, and pangolins then! :P
The vaccine was tested on animals. :(
It was also tested on people. Animal testing of drugs is required by law in most countries, so the drug companies have no choice in the matter.
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Lammetje wrote: June 10th, 2021, 3:28 pm I just got my second shot. No side-effects so far, just like after the first shot - apart from a sore upper arm. Now back to the vegan lifestyle. :)
:thumbsup:

two separate people have told me today that they started eating spicy food. both have had the virus but only one reports having taste issues, still lingering.
Another reports that wheat tastes bad now.
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America did an amazing act of donating Pfizer vaccines to Trinidad!

There was just one problem...they were given 80 doses
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: June 15th, 2021, 2:09 am America did an amazing act of donating Pfizer vaccines to Trinidad!

There was just one problem...they were given 80 doses
I just read that Denmark donated 500,000 doses to Ukraine. And Denmark's vaccination rate is lower than that of the US.
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Here in the US we prefer extra vaccines to go in the trash, thank you very much.
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Out of those 80 doses, Tobago should be entitled to 4 doses (its population is about 20 times less than Trinidad).
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OldAle1 wrote:I think four Aamir Khan films is enough for me. Unless I'm down to one film left on the IMDb Top 250 at some point and he's in that last film, at which point I'll watch it and then shoot myself having become the official-check-whoring person I hate.
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This caught my eye because it's 20 minutes away from me. https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/17/us/giant ... index.html

But you have to check out the hilarious final paragraph:
"Murder hornets" became a viral phenomenon in 2020 for their tendencies to decapitate honeybees and feed honeybee larvae to their young after attacking beehives. Many people included them on a running list of bad things happening during the year, along with the coronavirus pandemic.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/2 ... 19-vaccine

The Cuban vaccine is getting some promising results after the 2nd of 3 doses.
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Cuba's vaccine stats are coming in. The stats for the second one is 92% effective

https://kawsachunnews.com/cubas-abdala- ... -effective

They fucking did it. A country in a poor region full of sanctions still manages to make not one, but potentially two effective vaccines.
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 9:56 am Cuba's vaccine stats are coming in. The stats for the second one is 92% effective

https://kawsachunnews.com/cubas-abdala- ... -effective

They fucking did it. A country in a poor region full of sanctions still manages to make not one, but potentially two effective vaccines.
Good for them. Their primary health care system is better/more effective than the US's, so maybe not surprising (either that Cuba developed a stellar vaccine or that another country has better healthcare than the US).
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They created a lung cancer vaccine too. America is actually doing trials on it and it looks good so far. I'm so surprised that Trump didn't cancel those trials since they are government-funded.
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Yeah seriously. Trump is prob planning on getting the cancer vaccine, if approved, in private and then publicly denouncing it to all his followers/minions, as he did with the COVID vaccine.
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