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erde wrote: April 28th, 2021, 4:42 pm
dirty_score wrote: April 28th, 2021, 4:35 pm I just added to ICM: Paste's The 100 Best Film Noirs of All Time

This could be a good introductory list instead of the actual one or just for you to watchlist it come Noirvember :guns:
Great! Thank you, dirty_score! Why not replace the current official top 100 with this one, since it just repeats the top 100 from the TSPDT top 1000 noirs which is also official?
Or we could replace the top 1000. Most people didn't want it to be official. It was actually the lowest ranked noir list in the "lists that should be official" poll in 2013 (although at the time, it was 962 instead of 1000).
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Why do we have to replace everything? It seems like there's a push for just constant change. The noir lists are good. I don't care that the top 100 is an abbreviated version of the 1000. It's nice to have something more manageable.
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mjf314 wrote: April 28th, 2021, 9:38 pm Or we could replace the top 1000. Most people didn't want it to be official. It was actually the lowest ranked noir list in the "lists that should be official" poll in 2013 (although at the time, it was 962 instead of 1000).
That list didn’t exist in 2013.
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Torgo wrote: April 28th, 2021, 9:14 pm A few too many neos on that list for my taste, but I very much agree with that reasoning. We have the exact same 100 films official twice, another Top 100 than by TSP would be an easy solution. ;)
There's also the BFI one: BFI 100 key Noir films for more "pure" noir. But the Paste lists tend to be updated so who knows when they update theirs, Blade Runner 2049 might get on the list tehe
mjf314 wrote: April 28th, 2021, 9:38 pm Or we could replace the top 1000. Most people didn't want it to be official. It was actually the lowest ranked noir list in the "lists that should be official" poll in 2013 (although at the time, it was 962 instead of 1000).
Not the biggest fan of the genre but that list will have to remain the ultimate guide for the more advanced fans. I just think the middle list, or as you call the introductory list, could be a different one that like Paste juggles with subgenres within the genre that could provide the perfect leap for the 1000 list.
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mjf314 wrote: April 28th, 2021, 9:38 pm Or we could replace the top 1000. Most people didn't want it to be official.
I must have missed the poll and discussion where most people said that.
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72aicm wrote: April 29th, 2021, 10:44 am
mjf314 wrote: April 28th, 2021, 9:38 pm Or we could replace the top 1000. Most people didn't want it to be official. It was actually the lowest ranked noir list in the "lists that should be official" poll in 2013 (although at the time, it was 962 instead of 1000).
That list didn’t exist in 2013.
It was a list from the same source, of approximately the same size, made using the same methods, with mostly the same films. It just had a different name. I think it can be considered an older version of the same list.
zuma wrote: April 29th, 2021, 11:17 am
mjf314 wrote: April 28th, 2021, 9:38 pm Or we could replace the top 1000. Most people didn't want it to be official.
I must have missed the poll and discussion where most people said that.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1463

TSPDT 962 noir films was ranked #170 out of 218 lists. The poll results were announced 2 days after the list was adopted.

The highest ranked noir lists were "One Hundred and One French Film Noirs" (#41) and "BFI 100 key Noir films" (#44).
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Added to ICM: RadiiChina's 100 Films to Watch to Help You Understand China
In assembling the list we reached out to filmmakers, producers, distributors, curators, critics, experts and industry insiders, who gave us an eclectic mix of mainstream titles, cult classics, and deep cuts. Our goal is to give a round and deep profile of the country through the medium of films made here in the last 100 years or so. To make it easier to navigate, we’ve divided the 100 films up into 10 categories with 10 movies each.
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Ah nice, clear approach there. Makes so much more sense than just throwing together a Random 100 (which might even include too much Hongkong or only addresses ICM cinephile needs). Thanks for sharing!
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dirty_score wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 6:12 pm Added to ICM: RadiiChina's 100 Films to Watch to Help You Understand China
In assembling the list we reached out to filmmakers, producers, distributors, curators, critics, experts and industry insiders, who gave us an eclectic mix of mainstream titles, cult classics, and deep cuts. Our goal is to give a round and deep profile of the country through the medium of films made here in the last 100 years or so. To make it easier to navigate, we’ve divided the 100 films up into 10 categories with 10 movies each.
Interesting, but also strange.

Plus, I think you have the wrong "Better Days" listed. I'm guessing it should be https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/shao+nian+de+ni/ instead of the Italian one you currently have.
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Nezha (1979) has 141 checks.
Ne Zha (2019) has 142 checks.
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Fergenaprido wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 6:26 pm Plus, I think you have the wrong "Better Days" listed. I'm guessing it should be https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/shao+nian+de+ni/ instead of the Italian one you currently have.
Thanks for noticing that! Always helps an extra pair of eyes. I've corrected the list. :thumbsup:

Now if someone imported :letbxd: Pigsy Eats Watermelon to :imdb: :whistling:
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Why include Disney's Mulan when they made so many Mulan films themselves though?
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Onderhond wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 8:18 pm Why include Disney's Mulan when they made so many Mulan films themselves though?
It's in the "bad films" category, so maybe the Disney version is the only one that they consider bad.
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mjf314 wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 8:30 pm
Onderhond wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 8:18 pm Why include Disney's Mulan when they made so many Mulan films themselves though?
It's in the "bad films" category, so maybe the Disney version is the only one that they consider bad.
Yeah, I was curious about that too. There are two other Hollywood-China co-productions in that section: The Great Matt Damon Wall and Transformers 27 4.
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dirty_score wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 6:49 pm
Fergenaprido wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 6:26 pm Plus, I think you have the wrong "Better Days" listed. I'm guessing it should be https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/shao+nian+de+ni/ instead of the Italian one you currently have.
Thanks for noticing that! Always helps an extra pair of eyes. I've corrected the list. :thumbsup:

Now if someone imported :letbxd: Pigsy Eats Watermelon to :imdb: :whistling:
I was about to, but it's already on imdb: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6838584/
I've imported it to icm for you: https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/zhu ... hi+xi+gua/
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I dunno, they just decided to. Section on the bad films - not too long texts for each.
Each of those 3 are good examples for creative failures under contribution of Hollywood. Transformers 27 4 may be a great share more American than the other two, but I get how they play a role.
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Fergenaprido wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 9:35 pm I was about to, but it's already on imdb: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6838584/
I've imported it to icm for you: https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/zhu ... hi+xi+gua/
Thanks, I updated the list :thumbsup:
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Added to ICM: Fantasporto - Grand Prix, the biggest portuguese film festival is also a genre festival focusing in fantasy/science fiction/horror. The latest edition ended yesterday with Takashi Shimizu's new movie taking the grand prize.
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I had that list already favorited at ICM: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/fant ... rd/lord+x/
... but thanks for the update! ;)
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Ebbywebby wrote: April 12th, 2021, 6:53 am https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/the+ ... ebbywebby/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/the+ ... ebbywebby/

Well, no one else dood it. So I dood it. The monthly updates may be more of a pain than I imagine, but I've committed myself.
Now updated with Criterion's May additions/deletions.
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beavis wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 8:17 pm I had that list already favorited at ICM: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/fant ... rd/lord+x/
... but thanks for the update! ;)
Yes, there is another list but since it isn't updated and the user seems gone, I decided to create it. You're welcome! :)
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dirty_score wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 7:57 pm Added to ICM: Fantasporto - Grand Prix, the biggest portuguese film festival is also a genre festival focusing in fantasy/science fiction/horror. The latest edition ended yesterday with Takashi Shimizu's new movie taking the grand prize.
How can a festival started in 1981 have a movie from 1976 as the best entry that year? I must be missing something.
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Knaldskalle wrote: May 4th, 2021, 4:49 am
dirty_score wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 7:57 pm Added to ICM: Fantasporto - Grand Prix, the biggest portuguese film festival is also a genre festival focusing in fantasy/science fiction/horror. The latest edition ended yesterday with Takashi Shimizu's new movie taking the grand prize.
How can a festival started in 1981 have a movie from 1976 as the best entry that year? I must be missing something.
Yugoslav horror, probably just never got released in Portugal before.
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Knaldskalle wrote: May 4th, 2021, 4:49 am
dirty_score wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 7:57 pm Added to ICM: Fantasporto - Grand Prix, the biggest portuguese film festival is also a genre festival focusing in fantasy/science fiction/horror. The latest edition ended yesterday with Takashi Shimizu's new movie taking the grand prize.
How can a festival started in 1981 have a movie from 1976 as the best entry that year? I must be missing something.
From Wikipedia:
The Rat Saviour (Croatian: Izbavitelj) is a 1976 Croatian fantasy horror film directed by Krsto Papić. It was released in 1976, but won Best Film at the 1982 Fantasporto.
I guess since it was their first year they accepted films from previous years or unreleased in Portugal making it a premiere.
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Not a poll or top list, but having the full Shaw Bros catalogue for reference in a single list is pretty neat: Shaw Bros on Letterboxd

20% complete! :sweat:
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I have created a list with the 70 films that the Cahiers du Cinéma recently selected for their 70th anniversary.
They focused on forgotten and under-appreciated gems, especially over the 50s-70s decades, even if there are a few big names, but there is probably something to pick for anyone interested in cinéma d'auteur and how the magazine's tastes evolved over the years.
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hurluberlu wrote: May 7th, 2021, 10:09 am I have created a list with the 70 films that the Cahiers du Cinéma recently selected for their 70th anniversary.
They focused on forgotten and under-appreciated gems, especially over the 50s-70s decades, even if there are a few big names, but there is probably something to pick for anyone interested in cinéma d'auteur and how the magazine's tastes evolved over the years.
Ooh, nice!! My kind of list. Am at 43/70 at the moment
companion piece to the sight and sound 75 hidden gems (or, instant "official" material for me)
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I moved in depressing stuff (among other things)
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hurluberlu wrote: May 7th, 2021, 10:09 am I have created a list with the 70 films that the Cahiers du Cinéma recently selected for their 70th anniversary.
They focused on forgotten and under-appreciated gems, especially over the 50s-70s decades, even if there are a few big names, but there is probably something to pick for anyone interested in cinéma d'auteur and how the magazine's tastes evolved over the years.
Cahiers is the most reputable film publication around and this ought to be official immediately. Great find!
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Mh the Cahiers list looks like peak ICM list material to me. Interesting/peculiar, high-brow, reputable, challenging enough to go through, yet short enough to be manageable with a few unofficial checks in between ..
Really the ONLY entry I don't get is First Cow :$ In terms of film critic recognition this is literally as high-profile as it gets?! Anyhow.

Armoreska wrote: May 7th, 2021, 10:55 am I moved in depressing stuff (among other things)
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Torgo wrote: May 7th, 2021, 3:58 pm Mh the Cahiers list looks like peak ICM list material to me. Interesting/peculiar, high-brow, reputable, challenging enough to go through, yet short enough to be manageable with a few unofficial checks in between ..
Really the ONLY entry I don't get is First Cow :$ In terms of film critic recognition this is literally as high-profile as it gets?! Anyhow.

Armoreska wrote: May 7th, 2021, 10:55 am I moved in depressing stuff (among other things)
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/depr ... armoreska/
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Ordnung (1980), seen in the doubling challenge last month, seemed like a very realistic depiction of a depression to me.

I have a list of favorite downer movies myself
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Although loneliness might be the most common factor there instead of depression...
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Well it's "depressing films", not films about depression, so anything with loneliness, meaninglessness, emotional pain and so on should be wonderful for this.
Thanks for sharing.
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So I'm looking for sci-fi keywords to include more lists into the meta sci-fi list.
Pandemics and dystopias are down.
Time travel, space, aliens, cyberpunk (and other punk) to go.
What else can I search for?

Who wants to adopt a few lists from here?
https://www.thisisbarry.com/film/best-t ... ttr-score/

"making a list and checking down"
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Armoreska wrote: May 9th, 2021, 1:06 pm So I'm looking for sci-fi keywords to include more lists into the meta sci-fi list.
Pandemics and dystopias are down.
Time travel, space, aliens, cyberpunk (and other punk) to go.
What else can I search for?

Who wants to adopt a few lists from here?
https://www.thisisbarry.com/film/best-t ... ttr-score/
That is a pretty fucking shitty list if you ask me.

Here are some of the films missing from a list of 59 time-travel films:

La jetée
Je t'aime, je t'aime
Beyond the Time Barrier
Slaughterhouse-Five
Jubilee
(Derek Jarman)
Time Bandits
Les maîtres du temps
Planet of the Apes
- ok I see in the comments where he mentions why he skipped this; mmm, not sure I agree but it's arguable anyway.
Kin dza-dza!

Instead he's got a list that is 50% films from 2010 or later and seems populated by a lot of teen- or action-oriented obscurities. Lots of pretty crappy films on this list - 41, really? He does have 12 Monkeys but fails to mention what it's sourced from; he's also got The Lake House but doesn't bother to mention that it's a direct remake. Five of the six Terminator films, but only the first (and least-interesting, in terms of time travel) BIll and Ted?

It strikes me as a list from a guy who has just been watching a lot of films in this niche for the past year or two maybe, hasn't delved into earlier films much and maybe doesn't care to, but is arrogant enough to put up a list of 59 "Best" films without really knowing much depth about the subject at all. But hey he's got his cool little numerical system so that's something. :shifty:

It's like a film noir list made by somebody who hasn't seen Out of the Past or The Third Man, or a western list by someone unfamiliar with John Ford.
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I guess you're right. Need to look for more.
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Looks like a useful list to me. Based on the ones I've seen, I'd be willing to try out the ones I haven't.
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I will say this for it though - it does give me a list of a lot of films I haven't heard of from the past few years, and some of them may be worth looking into. Even bad lists can give one ideas sometimes if they've got a lot of unseen films.
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Armoreska wrote: May 9th, 2021, 1:06 pm So I'm looking for sci-fi keywords to include more lists into the meta sci-fi list.
Pandemics and dystopias are down.
Time travel, space, aliens, cyberpunk (and other punk) to go.
What else can I search for?
apocalypse/post-apocalyptic, unobtanium, robot/android/cyborg, asteroid, genetic engineering
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Good to add it anyway and update in X years if it expands a bit

yeah i finally found a post apoc list (already added a short pre apoc list)
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/forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo
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