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I am not surprised by UK/US dominance but I didn't expect it to be so overwhelming. I counted four exceptions... I thought more Japanese animes would make it and some European too: no (old) love for Derrick, Tatort and other German police flicks ? any (newer) fan of French spy series The Bureau ?
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Yeah I expected to see more anime in particular, knowing that there are a lot of fans here. Didn't contribute much in that line myself cuz I haven't seen much but thought others would. As to non US/UK or anime, speaking as an American that stuff used to be very hard to come by - finding some old German or Mexican or French TV series, subbed, forget it. And even in the digital world today where some of that stuff is on Netflix or Prime or Hulu or whatever, it's a huge sea of things and how do you pick what to watch? And how many people are going to pick the same things and like them? US stuff is just omnipresent, it's there, and if I like it I don't have to work hard to access it. I'd like to start watching a little more foreign TV but in reality I'm much more likely to make the effort to watch foreign features or maybe the occasional miniseries. And I suspect my experience is fairly typical, for Americans/Canadians at least.
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Yeah, I was (foolishly) hoping for some more local flavours given our international userbase.
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Hard to vote for anime when almost all the great TV series were ineligible :D
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hurluberlu wrote: January 11th, 2021, 6:32 pm I thought more Japanese animes would make it
Several anime fans who participated last time didn't participate this time (Rad82, kingink, Veterini).
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OldAle1 wrote: January 11th, 2021, 5:56 pm
GruesomeTwosome wrote: January 11th, 2021, 5:48 pm

I voted for The Simpsons, around the middle rankings of my list, but with its super high placement it looks like it's still coasting on the greatness of its first 8 seasons or so, haha.
Same here - I had it at #16 out of 40. But I've seen very little past season, I don't know, 10? 12? Not sure when I stopped watching regularly. So it's nearly all positive memories for me - no idea how much I would change my ranking if I'd kept up with it. But this brings up an interesting notion - I think most people would not rate a movie very highly if they liked the first 1/3 a lot but really didn't like the rest of the film. I don't think everybody ranking The Simpsons or other long-running shows that have generally been perceived as being quite inconsistent, or lower quality in later seasons, is in love with every episode. Game of Thrones was also mentioned in this context and it did well. I guess people are fairly forgiving of TV shows that aren't great, or maybe even good, throughout, as long as there as just xx number of good episodes or seasons.
Yeah, I kept up with The Simpsons for a few seasons after its prime, up until around 2002-03, and I guess some of those late mediocre reasons rubbed off on me a bit, otherwise I would probably have The Simpsons as a top 10 show. Looking back, I was admittedly inconsistent when ranking my list when weighing between: "Should I evaluate the show on its overall run (or however much I've seen of it), keeping in mind any weaker seasons?" or "Should I evaluate/rank it based on its best seasons/its 'highest heights' as a show?" I honestly think I did more of the latter, so maybe I low-balled The Simpsons a little bit.
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How high (low?) did Dawson's Creek end? :wub:
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I recalculated the results with toromash list. There are mostly minor shift in rankings. The biggest shifts are:

Hannibal (Bryan Fuller, 2013 - 2015) is now at #59 instead of 73
The Office (Greg Daniels, Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant, 2005 - 2013) is now at #40 instead 51
True Detective (Nic Pizzolatto, 2014 - ) is now at #36 instead of 43.
The Leftovers (Damon Lindelof, Tom Perrotta, 2014 - 2017) is now at #33 instead of 41

It also means Atlanta (Donald Glover, 2016-) entered the Top 100 at #92. And Fleabag dropped off.
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joachimt wrote: January 11th, 2021, 8:32 pm How high (low?) did Dawson's Creek end? :wub:
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14/100
Those are the ones I watched entirely.
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Counting Cheers, which I'm going through now and am up to season 8, and will finish within the next couple of months, I've seen

11/100 shows in their entirety
15/100 shows enough that I felt I could vote on them (if they were good enough); in a long-running series that's usually somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 seen, or more

that'd be a pretty darn low total for a movie poll for me
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Drop off from last edition Top 100 that were eligible this time:

#102 (-18 #84) Beavis and Butt-Head (, 1993) 207.24 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
585 checks, :imdb:
7 voters
Gordon_Gekko (#37)
GruesomeTwosome (#7)
Leopardi (#130)
mightysparks (#111)
Perception de Ambiguity (#21)
sebby (#49)
sol (#41)
#105 (-26 #79) Samurai chanpurû [Samurai Champloo] (, 2004) 201.93 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
900 checks, :imdb:
4 voters
mjf314 (#22)
Mysterious Dude (#30)
outdoorcats (#15)
Smoover (#18)
#106 (-24 #82) Brass Eye (, 1997) 201.29 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
257 checks, :imdb:
3 voters
Armoreska (#11)
AssonFire (#5)
brokenface (#25)
#108 (-61 #47) Prison Break (, 2005) 200.24 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
5456 checks, :imdb:
6 voters
Armoreska (#25)
Carmel1379 (#21)
mightysparks (#92)
monclivie (#46)
Perception de Ambiguity (#25)
zzzorf (#29)
#110 (-39 #71) Extras (, 2005) 199.83 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
1537 checks, :imdb:
4 voters
Gorro (#93)
GruesomeTwosome (#9)
mightysparks (#2)
sebby (#43)
#112 (-31 #81) Married with Children (, 1987) 198.42 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
1509 checks, :imdb:
4 voters
Caracortada (#36)
Gordon_Gekko (#3)
Leopardi (#63)
Perception de Ambiguity (#14)
#115 (-84 #31) The Black Adder [Blackadder] (, 1982) 193.4 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
3999 checks, :imdb:
6 voters
Caracortada (#41)
joachimt (#11)
Kublai Khan (#39)
Leopardi (#68)
Lonewolf2003 (unranked>47)
sol (#19)
#119 (-60 #59) House of Cards (, 2013) 192.08 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
3038 checks, :imdb:
7 voters
AB537 (#20)
AssonFire (#64)
beasterne (#52)
Gordon_Gekko (#25)
Gorro (#23)
Rufus-T (#51)
sebby (#93)
#137 (-49 #88) Tekunoraizu [Texhnolyze] (, 2003) 157.98 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
58 checks, :imdb:
3 voters
Carmel1379 (#26)
Onderhond (#1)
Perception de Ambiguity (#54)

#138 (-55 #83) Doctor Who (, 1963) 157 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
536 checks, :imdb:
3 voters
Kublai Khan (#47)
OldAle1 (unranked>20)
ororama (#1)
#150 (-106 #44) Father Ted (, 1995) 144.62 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
726 checks, :imdb:
3 voters
AssonFire (#34)
brokenface (#26)
GruesomeTwosome (#11)
#155 (-107 #48) Mirai shônen Konan [Future Boy Conan] (, 1978) 141.52 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
98 checks, :imdb:
2 voters
Armoreska (#17)
mjf314 (#6)
#160 (-121 #39) Yes Minister (, 1980) 137.39 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
262 checks, :imdb:
3 voters
Caracortada (#9)
Mysterious Dude (#41)
outdoorcats (#30)
#164 (-90 #74) N.H.K ni yôkoso! [Welcome to the NHK!] (, 2006) 134.28 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
117 checks, :imdb:
2 voters
Armoreska (#13)
Lonewolf2003 (#12)

#167 (-132 #35) Riget [The Kingdom] (, 1994) 132.99 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
2913 checks, :imdb:
2 voters
72aicm (#1)
Leopardi (#33)
#170 (-106 #64) Batman: The Animated Series (, 1992) 126.65 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
1276 checks, :imdb:
4 voters
Mysterious Dude (#17)
Perception de Ambiguity (#127)
prodigalgodson (#17)
sebby (#66)
#197 (-105 #92) Dead Like Me (, 2003) 109.86 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
1110 checks, :imdb:
4 voters
Leopardi (#41)
mightysparks (#35)
sebby (#64)
VincentPrice (unranked)
#219 (-124 #95) Orange Is the New Black (, 2013) 97.78 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
2404 checks, :imdb:
6 voters
AB537 (unranked>40)
beasterne (#63)
Gorro (#63)
Leopardi (#89)
Lonewolf2003 (#26)
mightysparks (#60)
#252 (-182 #70) Suzumiya Haruhi no yûutsu [The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya] (, 2006) 89.93 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
281 checks, :imdb:
3 voters
Armoreska (#41)
Lonewolf2003 (unranked>47)
mjf314 (#17)
#257 (-201 #56) Bottom (, 1991) 88.79 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
270 checks, :imdb:
3 voters
Caracortada (#87)
joachimt (#8)
mightysparks (#86)
#260 (-180 #80) The Angry Video Game Nerd (, 2004) 87.32 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
236 checks, :imdb:
2 voters
Armoreska (#6)
sebby (#100)

#291 (-195 #96) The IT Crowd (, 2006) 82.13 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
3729 checks, :imdb:
3 voters
mightysparks (#72)
monclivie (#35)
VincentPrice (unranked)
#311 (-244 #67) The Muppet Show (, 1976) 78.41 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
861 checks, :imdb:
6 voters
Caracortada (#55)
Leopardi (#96)
lineuphere (#28)
Perception de Ambiguity (#119)
Rufus-T (#67)
zzzorf (#73)
#313 (-237 #76) Fringe (, 2008) 78.08 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
2700 checks, :imdb:
4 voters
Lonewolf2003 (#38)
mightysparks (#99)
sebby (#98)
zzzorf (#25)
#360 (-269 #91) Jiskefet (, 1990) 69.06 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
26 checks, :imdb:
2 voters
joachimt (#15)
Lonewolf2003 (unranked>47)
#376 (-289 #87) The Big Bang Theory (, 2007) 66.34 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
12185 checks, :imdb:
5 voters
AB537 (unranked>40)
cayado-coro (#43)
Gordon_Gekko (#52)
Gorro (#69)
Leopardi (#118)

#521 (-421 #100) Yes, Prime Minister (, 1986) 45.06 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
219 checks, :imdb:
1 voters
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Can you post the spreadsheet with the episode counts?
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Thanks for posting & gathering all that, Lonewolf! :thumbsup:

Lonewolf2003 wrote: January 11th, 2021, 9:39 pm Drop off from last edition Top 100 that were eligible this time:

#102 (-18 #84) Beavis and Butt-Head (, 1993) 207.24 points
Seasons: , Episodes:
585 checks, :imdb:
7 voters
Gordon_Gekko (#37)
GruesomeTwosome (#7)
Leopardi (#130)
mightysparks (#111)
Perception de Ambiguity (#21)
sebby (#49)
sol (#41)
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I've checked 73/100 :D

But I'm pretty lax with checking tv series, if I have seen enough to judge it I check it. F.e. I don't know if I've seen every last episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but I did follow it, but in those days pre-streaming and playback options life sometimes got in the way of seeing an episode of a series. And I'm certain I didn't see every last episode of the Daily Show, but I've seen enough to like it.
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mjf314 wrote: January 11th, 2021, 9:55 pm Can you post the spreadsheet with the episode counts?
I only stated that for the top 100. Added those manually from IMDb or wiki. So sharing the spreadsheet doesn't help if you need it for that.
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There we are with the great anime series :)
Would've all been in my list.
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Lonewolf2003 wrote: January 11th, 2021, 10:02 pm
mjf314 wrote: January 11th, 2021, 9:55 pm Can you post the spreadsheet with the episode counts?
I only stated that for the top 100. Added those manually from IMDb or wiki. So sharing the spreadsheet doesn't help if you need it for that.
Top 100 is ok. I just want to be able to sort by episode count (or if you could post the top 100 sorted by episode count, that would work too).
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To ease your pain; they are all in the mini series top 125
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I forgot about Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister. Haven't seen as much British comedy as some others here, but those are both gems. And this poll did provide other ideas, several of which are readily available on Prime (at least in Canada).

Too bad Fleabag - another excellent British comedy - was the victim of the extra list, but only fair to incorporate every ballot.
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Looking forward to the day 'In De Gloria' (2000) or 'Willy's en marjetten' (2006) tops the list.

Place 223 is not too bad though

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mjf314 wrote: January 11th, 2021, 10:08 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote: January 11th, 2021, 10:02 pm
mjf314 wrote: January 11th, 2021, 9:55 pm Can you post the spreadsheet with the episode counts?
I only stated that for the top 100. Added those manually from IMDb or wiki. So sharing the spreadsheet doesn't help if you need it for that.
Top 100 is ok. I just want to be able to sort by episode count (or if you could post the top 100 sorted by episode count, that would work too).
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Top 100 ordered by least amount of episodes to most
"#34 (-17 #17) Blackadder the Third (Richard Curtis, Rowan Atkinson, 1987) 554.77 points
Seasons: 1, Episodes: 6
1847 checks, :imdb:
"#50 (-30 #20) Blackadder II (Richard Curtis, Rowan Atkinson, 1986) 431.2 points
Seasons: 1, Episodes: 6
3717 checks, :imdb:
"#55 (-23 #32) Blackadder Goes Forth (Richard Curtis, Rowan Atkinson, 1989) 375.51 points
Seasons: 1, Episodes: 6
2037 checks, :imdb:
"#28 (-20 #8) Fawlty Towers (John Cleese, Connie Booth, 1975 - 1979) 590.24 points
Seasons: 2, Episodes: 12
3063 checks, :imdb:
"#96 (-58 #38) The Young Ones (, 1982 - 1984) 222.96 points
Seasons: 2, Episodes: 12
433 checks, :imdb:
"#14 (-2 #12) Firefly (Joss Whedon, 2002 - 2003) 840.84 points
Seasons: 1, Episodes: 14
6685 checks, :imdb:
"#48 (-29 #19) The Office (Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant, 2001 - 2003) 436.29 points
Seasons: 2, Episodes: 14
3503 checks, :imdb:
"#57 (41 #98) Spaced (Simon Pegg, Jessica Stevenson, 1999 - 2001) 368.69 points
Seasons: 2, Episodes: 14
1824 checks, :imdb:
"#68 (-40 #28) Mr. Bean (Rowan Atkinson, Richard Curtis, 1990 - 1995) 304.42 points
Seasons: 1, Episodes: 15
4279 checks, :imdb:
"#32 (-16 #16) Sherlock (Mark Gatiss, Steven Moffat, 2010 - 2017) 573.25 points
Seasons: 4, Episodes: 15
15010 checks, :imdb:
"#95 (NEW) The Boys (Eric Kripke, 2019 - ) 224.61 points
Seasons: 2, Episodes: 16
204 checks, :imdb:
"#38 (106 #144) The Prisoner (Patrick McGoohan, George Markstein, 1967 - 1968) 518.09 points
Seasons: 1, Episodes: 17
353 checks, :imdb:
"#17 (NEW) Twin Peaks [Twin Peaks: The Return] (David Lynch, Mark Frost, 2017) 777.6 points
Seasons: 1, Episodes: 18
1321 checks, :imdb:
"#19 (7 #26) Freaks and Geeks (Paul Feig, 1999 - 2000) 740.09 points
Seasons: 1, Episodes: 18
3919 checks, :imdb:
"#93 (-33 #60) Black Books (Dylan Moran, Graham Linehan, 2000 - 2004) 227.98 points
Seasons: 3, Episodes: 18
1921 checks, :imdb:
"#47 (NEW) Mindhunter (Joe Penhall, 2017 - 2019(?)) 448.49 points
Seasons: 2, Episodes: 19
754 checks, :imdb:
"#74 (300 #374) Xavier: Renegade Angel (Vernon Chatman, John Lee, 2007 - 2009) 267.74 points
Seasons: 2, Episodes: 20
20 checks, :imdb:
"#87 (NEW) Master of None (Aziz Ansari, Alan Yang, 2015 - ) 236.25 points
Seasons: 2, Episodes: 20
497 checks, :imdb:
"#92 (NEW) Atlanta (Donald Glover, 2016- ) 228.46 points
Seasons: 2, Episodes: 21
297 checks, :imdb:
"#62 (108 #170) Rome (Bruno Heller, William J. MacDonald, John Milius, 2005 - 2007) 337.5 points
Seasons: 2, Episodes: 22
2199 checks, :imdb:
"#71 (-13 #58) Flight of the Conchords (James Bobin, Jemaine Clement, Bret McKenzie, 2007 - 2009) 283.95 points
Seasons: 2, Episodes: 22
2009 checks, :imdb:
"#15 (88 #103) Black Mirror (Charlie Brooker, 2011 - ) 810.62 points
Seasons: 5, Episodes: 22
3568 checks, :imdb:
"#36 (-27 #9) True Detective (Nic Pizzolatto, 2014 - ) 543.81 points
Seasons: 3, Episodes: 24
4187 checks, :imdb:
"#51 (NEW) Stranger Things (The Duffer Brothers, 2016 - ) 424.05 points
Seasons: 3, Episodes: 25
3255 checks, :imdb:
"#20 (34 #54) Shin seiki evangerion [Neon Genesis Evangelion] (Hideaki Anno, 1995 - 1996) 722.47 points
Seasons: 1, Episodes: 26
847 checks, :imdb:
"#24 (-11 #13) Kaubôi bibappu [Cowboy Bebop] (Hajime Yatate, 1998 - 1999) 643.96 points
Seasons: 1, Episodes: 26
1776 checks, :imdb:
"#89 (5 #94) Il était une fois... la vie [Once Upon a Time... Life/Micro Patrol] (Albert Barillé, 1987 - 1988) 233.01 points
Seasons: 1, Episodes: 26
100 checks, :imdb:
"#99 (NEW) Dark (Baran bo Odar, Jantje Friese, 2017 -2020) 215.61 points
Seasons: 3, Episodes: 26
357 checks, :imdb:
"#33 (NEW) The Leftovers (Damon Lindelof, Tom Perrotta, 2014 - 2017) 560.67 points
Seasons: 3, Episodes: 28
456 checks, :imdb:
"#85 (NEW) Westworld (Lisa Joy, Jonathan Nolan, 2016 - ) 239.97 points
Seasons: 3, Episodes: 28
1401 checks, :imdb:
"#1 (--) Twin Peaks (David Lynch, Mark Frost, 1990 - 1991) 1920.05 points
Seasons: 2, Episodes: 30
6858 checks, :imdb:
"#82 (54 #136) Borgen (Adam Price, 2010 - 2013) 244.09 points
Seasons: 3, Episodes: 30
294 checks, :imdb:
"#35 (941 #976) Nathan for You (Nathan Fielder, Michael Koman, 2013 - 2017) 551.42 points
Seasons: 4, Episodes: 32
172 checks, :imdb:
"#79 (617 #696) Chappelle's Show (Neal Brennan, Dave Chappelle, 2003 - 2006) 259.09 points
Seasons: 3, Episodes: 33
903 checks, :imdb:
"#42 (-13 #29) Deadwood (David Milch, 2004 - 2006) 465.42 points
Seasons: 3, Episodes: 36
1566 checks, :imdb:
"#78 (-32 #46) Death Note: Desu nôto [Death Note] (, 2006 - 2007) 259.1 points
Seasons: 1, Episodes: 37
1559 checks, :imdb:
"#59 (9 #68) Hannibal (Bryan Fuller, 2013 - 2015) 352.38 points
Seasons: 3, Episodes: 39
1839 checks, :imdb:
"#22 (53 #75) Fargo (Noah Hawley, 2014 -) 657.76 points
Seasons: 4, Episodes: 41
2061 checks, :imdb:
"#12 (532 #544) Rick and Morty (Dan Harmon, Justin Roiland, 2013 - ) 905.23 points
Seasons: 4, Episodes: 42
1794 checks, :imdb:
"#31 (-27 #4) Monty Python's Flying Circus (Graham Chapman, John Cleese, Eric Idle, Terry Jones, Michael Palin, Terry Gilliam, 1969 - 1974) 578 points
Seasons: 4, Episodes: 45
4875 checks, :imdb:
"#91 (NEW) The Good Place (Michael Schur, 2016 - 2020) 229.34 points
Seasons: 4, Episodes: 50
356 checks, :imdb:
"#16 (97 #113) Better Call Saul (Vince Gilligan, Peter Gould, 2015 - ) 809.02 points
Seasons: 5, Episodes: 50
1446 checks, :imdb:
"#86 (13 #99) Peep Show (Jesse Armstrong, Sam Bain, Andrew O'Connor, 2003 - 2015) 238.09 points
Seasons: 9, Episodes: 54
1042 checks, :imdb:
"#52 (57 #109) Boardwalk Empire (Terence Winter, 2010 - 2014) 420.73 points
Seasons: 5, Episodes: 57
2537 checks, :imdb:
"#2 (16 #18) The Wire (David Simon, 2002 -2008) 1745.02 points
Seasons: 5, Episodes: 60
4991 checks, :imdb:
"#58 (-3 #55) Louie (Louis C.K., 2010 - 2015) 368.07 points
Seasons: 5, Episodes: 61
1571 checks, :imdb:
"#4 (-1 #3) Breaking Bad (Vince Gilligan, 2008 - 2016) 1565.34 points
Seasons: 5, Episodes: 62
16243 checks, :imdb:
"#43 (-7 #36) Six Feet Under (Alan Ball, 2001 - 2005) 464.69 points
Seasons: 5, Episodes: 63
3035 checks, :imdb:
"#46 (450 #496) Veep (Armando Iannucci, 2012 - 2019) 449.24 points
Seasons: 7, Episodes: 65
470 checks, :imdb:
"#69 (91 #160) Avatar: The Last Airbender (Michael Dante DiMartino, Bryan Konietzko, 2005 - 2008) 295.42 points
Seasons: 3, Episodes: 66
4472 checks, :imdb:
"#10 (--) Game of Thrones (David Benioff, D.B. Weiss, 2011 - 2019) 978.5 points
Seasons: 8, Episodes: 73
18094 checks, :imdb:
"#45 (100 #145) Battlestar Galactica (Glen A. Larson, Ronald D. Moore, 2004 - 2009) 451.31 points
Seasons: 4, Episodes: 74
2880 checks, :imdb:
"#70 (-1 #69) Red Dwarf (Rob Grant, Doug Naylor, 1988 -) 285.91 points
Seasons: 12, Episodes: 74
811 checks, :imdb:
"#23 (456 #479) BoJack Horseman (Raphael Bob-Waksberg, 2014 - 2020) 650.87 points
Seasons: 6, Episodes: 77
711 checks, :imdb:
"#37 (67 #104) Star Trek [Star Trek: The Original Series] (Gene Roddenberry, 1966 - 1969) 525.87 points
Seasons: 3, Episodes: 80
1231 checks, :imdb:
"#8 (-2 #6) Arrested Development (Mitchell Hurwitz, 2003 - 2019) 1181.85 points
Seasons: 5, Episodes: 84
8057 checks, :imdb:
"#7 (4 #11) The Sopranos (David Chase, 1999 - 2007) 1241.16 points
Seasons: 6, Episodes: 84
5480 checks, :imdb:
"#81 (NEW) The League (Jackie Marcus Schaffer, Jeff Schaffer, 2009 - 2015) 253.69 points
Seasons: 7, Episodes: 84
419 checks, :imdb:
"#11 (10 #21) Mad Men (Matthew Weiner, 2007 - 2015) 965.43 points
Seasons: 7, Episodes: 92
4295 checks, :imdb:
"#53 (65 #118) Homeland (Alex Gansa, Howard Gordon, 2011 - 2020) 391.92 points
Seasons: 8, Episodes: 96
2310 checks, :imdb:
"#73 (-21 #52) Dexter (James Manos Jr., 2006 - 2021) 276.43 points
Seasons: 8, Episodes: 96
10144 checks, :imdb:
"#29 (8 #37) Curb Your Enthusiasm (Larry David, 2000 - ) 585.33 points
Seasons: 10, Episodes: 100
1774 checks, :imdb:
"#26 (25 #51) Community (Dan Harmon, 2009 - 2015) 614.99 points
Seasons: 6, Episodes: 110
4849 checks, :imdb:
"#80 (282 #362) Babylon 5 (J. Michael Straczynski, 1993 - 1998) 255.11 points
Seasons: 5, Episodes: 111
484 checks, :imdb:
"#25 (-2 #23) Lost (J.J. Abrams, Jeffrey Lieber, Damon Lindelof, 2004 - 2010) 641.3 points
Seasons: 6, Episodes: 118
10575 checks, :imdb:
"#39 (104 #143) Archer (Adam Reed, 2009 -) 496.26 points
Seasons: 11, Episodes: 119
1823 checks, :imdb:
"#30 (32 #62) Parks and Recreation (Greg Daniels, Michael Schur, 2009 - 2015) 578.16 points
Seasons: 7, Episodes: 125
3378 checks, :imdb:
"#60 (-15 #45) 30 Rock (Tina Fey, 2006 - 2013) 342.38 points
Seasons: 7, Episodes: 138
3087 checks, :imdb:
"#13 (2 #15) Futurama (Matt Groening, 1999 - 2013) 866.6 points
Seasons: 7 or 10, Episodes: 140
6998 checks, :imdb:
"#61 (NEW) Brooklyn Nine-Nine (Dan Goor, Michael Schur, 2013 - ) 340.02 points
Seasons: 7, Episodes: 143
830 checks, :imdb:
"#27 (15 #42) Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Joss Whedon, 1997 - 2003) 606.98 points
Seasons: 7, Episodes: 145
4972 checks, :imdb:
"#77 (95 #172) Malcolm in the Middle (Linwood Boomer, 2000 - 2006) 262.03 points
Seasons: 7, Episodes: 151
2647 checks, :imdb:
"#21 (356 #377) It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (Rob McElhenney, 2005 -) 712.09 points
Seasons: 14, Episodes: 154
2982 checks, :imdb:
"#41 (98 #139) The West Wing (Aaron Sorkin, 1999 - 2006) 466.41 points
Seasons: 7, Episodes: 155
985 checks, :imdb:
"#18 (4 #22) The Twilight Zone (Rod Serling, 1959 - 1964) 745.6 points
Seasons: 5, Episodes: 156
1414 checks, :imdb:
"#97 (156 #253) Mary Tyler Moore [The Mary Tyler Moore Show] (James L. Brooks, Allan Burns, 1970 - 1977) 220.46 points
Seasons: 7, Episodes: 168
95 checks, :imdb:
"#5 (2 #7) Seinfeld (Larry David, Jerry Seinfeld, 1989 - 1998) 1402.92 points
Seasons: 9, Episodes: 173
5815 checks, :imdb:
"#49 (78 #127) Star Trek: The Next Generation (Gene Roddenberry, 1987 - 1994) 435.28 points
Seasons: 7, Episodes: 176
1628 checks, :imdb:
"#76 (1 #77) House M.D. (David Shore, 2004 - 2012) 262.63 points
Seasons: 8, Episodes: 176
7097 checks, :imdb:
"#64 (-23 #41) Scrubs (Bill Lawrence, 2001 - 2010) 320.15 points
Seasons: 9, Episodes: 182
6524 checks, :imdb:
"#40 (32 #72) The Office (Greg Daniels, Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant, 2005 - 2013) 466.41 points
Seasons: 9, Episodes: 188
5524 checks, :imdb:
"#44 (-14 #30) 24 (Robert Cochran, Joel Surnow, 2001 - 2010) 454.27 points
Seasons: 8, Episodes: 195
2856 checks, :imdb:
"#98 (12 #110) The Cosby Show (Michael Leeson, William H. Cosby Jr., Ed. Weinberger, 1984 - 1992) 216.5 points
Seasons: 8, Episodes: 197
545 checks, :imdb:
"#67 (11 #78) Mystery Science Theater 3000 (Joel Hodgson, 1988 - 2015) 310.2 points
Seasons: 11, Episodes: 199
439 checks, :imdb:
"#72 (113 #185) All in the Family (Norman Lear, 1971 - 1979) 276.95 points
Seasons: 9, Episodes: 208
163 checks, :imdb:
"#54 (164 #218) Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (John Oliver, 2014 -) 388.37 points
Seasons: 7, Episodes: 209
483 checks, :imdb:
"#9 (5 #14) The X Files (Chris Carter, 1993 - 2018) 1034.67 points
Seasons: 11, Episodes: 217
5091 checks, :imdb:
"#94 (115 #209) Whose Line Is It Anyway? (Mark Leveson, Dan Patterson, 1998 - 2007) 225.27 points
Seasons: 8, Episodes: 220
1627 checks, :imdb:
"#75 (-9 #66) Friends (David Crane, Marta Kauffman, 1994 - 2004) 264.84 points
Seasons: 10, Episodes: 235
13237 checks, :imdb:
"#65 (712 #777) M*A*S*H (Larry Gelbart, Gene Reynolds, 1972 - 1983) 318.3 points
Seasons: 11, Episodes: 251
1034 checks, :imdb:
"#66 (148 #214) King of the Hill (Greg Daniels, Mike Judge, 1997 - 2010) 317.43 points
Seasons: 13, Episodes: 258
623 checks, :imdb:
"#56 (33 #89) Frasier (David Angell, Peter Casey, David Lee, 1993 - 2004) 374.3 points
Seasons: 11, Episodes: 263
1440 checks, :imdb:
"#88 (-54 #34) Alfred Hitchcock Presents (Alfred Hitchcock, 1955 - 1962) 235.76 points
Seasons: 7, Episodes: 268
245 checks, :imdb:
"#63 (77 #140) Cheers (James Burrows, Glen Charles, Les Charles, 1982 - 1993) 334.14 points
Seasons: 11, Episodes: 271
714 checks, :imdb:
"#84 (90 #174) Adventure Time [Adventure Time with Finn & Jake] (Pendleton Ward, 2010 - 2018) 241.71 points
Seasons: 10, Episodes: 289
1032 checks, :imdb:
"#6 (-1 #5) South Park (Trey Parker, Matt Stone, 1997 - ) 1304.21 points
Seasons: 23, Episodes: 308
7921 checks, :imdb:
"#83 (-40 #43) Family Guy (Seth MacFarlane, 1999 - ) 243.54 points
Seasons: 19, Episodes: 358
6538 checks, :imdb:
"#3 (-1 #2) The Simpsons (Matt Groening, 1989 - ) 1580.28 points
Seasons: 32, Episodes: 694
10840 checks, :imdb:
"#100 (354 #454) The Colbert Report (Stephen Colbert, Ben Karlin, Jon Stewart, 2005 - 2014) 215.11 points
Seasons: 11, Episodes: 1389
918 checks, :imdb:
"#90 (342 #432) The Daily Show (Madeleine Smithberg, Lizz Winstead, 1996 - ) 231.73 points
Seasons: 26, Episodes: 3864
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AB537 wrote: January 11th, 2021, 10:16 pm victim of the extra list
Yeah thanks toromash for ruining it with your extra list!
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18/100 for me, and like joachimt I only check a show on ICM if I've seen every single episode. So I don't have Arrested Development checked because I haven't gotten around to the latest season, even though I've watched the first 3 seasons probably 5 times.
Torgo wrote: January 11th, 2021, 9:57 pmlol @that drop of House of Cards, though. The final season without Spacey might have hurt the ranking as much that all earlier ones were with him .. :ph43r:
I really debated whether to put House of Cards on my list at all, given how poor the last few seasons were. I decided it still gets in on the strength of the first two seasons, but I would tell everyone just to stop there if they're watching for the first time--really no point in going beyond the end of S2.
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:imdb: Complete List also added for those who want it.
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Some stats

Top creators:
Richard Curtis, Rowan Atkinson 4
Greg Daniels 3
Michael Schur 3
Damon Lindelof 2
Dan Harmon 2
David Lynch, Mark Frost 2
Gene Roddenberry 2
John Cleese 2
Joss Whedon 2
Larry David 2
Matt Groening 2
Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant 2
Vince Gilligan 2

Genres:
Comedy 58
Drama 52
Crime 22
Thriller 22
Sci-Fi 21
Mystery 20
Action 15
Animation 15
Adventure 13
Fantasy 12
Family 6
Romance 5
Horror 4
History 3
Music 3
War 3
Documentary 1
Musical 1
Sport 1
Western 1
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Torgo wrote: January 11th, 2021, 10:23 pm
AB537 wrote: January 11th, 2021, 10:16 pm victim of the extra list
Yeah thanks toromash for ruining it with your extra list!
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Someone has to disrupt the status quo :thumbsup:
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I've seen 52/100 (a couple I haven't watched entirely, but have seen enough.. I'm not as strict with TV checks as film checks). 154/1102 of the 'full list'. I watched a lot of TV as a teen, but have only just started to dabble in it again over the last couple of years. I find it much harder to find anything that really grabs me these days. Seinfeld is the highest one I haven't seen because I can't get through more than 2 minutes of it and what I've seen I do not find at all funny. Not sure I'll ever be able to watch that one. Voted for 7 of the top 10 though and I think out of all polls this one has the highest percentage of my votes (35/52 are favourites!). A few here that I've been wanting to check out, but I still have so much on my watchlist...
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Took me a while to get to like Seinfeld. Certainly humor is as subjective as anything but that show seems even more so than most to me. I mean, I have an uncle - 85, very conservative, has lived his whole life in rural Wisconsin, will not eat any ethnic food whatsoever, has never been to New York, thinks it's all full of sodomites - but he fucking loves the show, it's his favorite thing next to (American) football. The particular kind of humor, the delivery, the way they use music, is quite distinctive and it was totally off-putting to me at first; not sure what made me change my mind about it actually, it's one of those I find hard to analyze.
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It's a bit too American for me. I really love British comedy and sitcoms but I usually don't like American ones. Maybe one day I'll give it a shot, but I doubt it lol
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To go on from the America vs UK, were there any Aussie shows on the list? Or on your personal list, or sol's or anybody else from Downunder? I didn't look very closely and there were a few dozen shows on the list that aren't even vaguely familiar names to me.
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I miss TV.
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OldAle1 wrote: January 12th, 2021, 1:26 am To go on from the America vs UK, were there any Aussie shows on the list? Or on your personal list, or sol's or anybody else from Downunder? I didn't look very closely and there were a few dozen shows on the list that aren't even vaguely familiar names to me.
On my list: The Adventures of Lano & Woodley, Thank God You're Here, Micallef Programme, Micallef Tonight, Crash Palace. Most were things I watched as a kid, but I never really got into Aussie.. anything. Aussie comedy is usually terrible, but these ones I found hilarious.
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Crash Palace sounds familiar but I might be thinking of Smash Palace. The rest...not surprisingly not hitting the brain with familiarity neurons.
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I’ll be giving Seinfeld another try at some point. I watched about half of the first season about ten years and didn’t enjoy it very much. But since then I’ve watched through Curb Your Enthusiasm and really started to get Larry David’s sense of humor and writing style. Plus the whole season with the Seinfeld reunion on Curv was just hysterical, and I haven’t even seen the original show to compare it to. So yeah, I’m looking forward to giving Seinfeld another try.
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OldAle1 wrote: January 12th, 2021, 1:26 am To go on from the America vs UK, were there any Aussie shows on the list? Or on your personal list, or sol's or anybody else from Downunder? I didn't look very closely and there were a few dozen shows on the list that aren't even vaguely familiar names to me.
I've only seen one Aussie show, Rake, entirely due to availability on Netflix in Canada, and it made my top 10.
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OldAle1 wrote: January 12th, 2021, 1:13 am Took me a while to get to like Seinfeld. Certainly humor is as subjective as anything but that show seems even more so than most to me. I mean, I have an uncle - 85, very conservative, has lived his whole life in rural Wisconsin, will not eat any ethnic food whatsoever, has never been to New York, thinks it's all full of sodomites - but he fucking loves the show, it's his favorite thing next to (American) football. The particular kind of humor, the delivery, the way they use music, is quite distinctive and it was totally off-putting to me at first; not sure what made me change my mind about it actually, it's one of those I find hard to analyze.
I've been told by a couple of people that my love for Seinfeld is because I'm a New Yorker and the show has a particular type of New York humor. I think it's a valid point. On the other hand, it was the most popular show in the country for a few years.

I wonder what your uncle thinks of the episode where George and Jerry get mistaken for a gay couple.
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Almost every TV show gets worse as it goes along. While a TV show may improve from season 1 to 2 or season 2 to 3, by the time season 5 or 8 or 11 come around, it's usually on a downward trajectory. So here's my question: How did a show's decline affect your voting?

I've realized that I completely ignored it for some shows. Twin Peaks is good enough that I'm not holding the second half of season 2 against it. And it helps that I haven't seen the most recent 21 seasons of The Simpsons. On the other hand, I probably would have included The Office and House in my list if I had stopped watching each one after three or four seasons. But by watching one or two seasons more, I not only saw some bad TV but I also came to recognize some of the significant flaws in earlier seasons.
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