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Doubling the Canon 2020 Update - Results

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Re: Doubling the Canon 2020 Update - Phase II: Ratings

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Post by St. Gloede » May 2nd, 2020, 6:18 pm

matthewscott8 wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 3:59 pm
St. Gloede wrote:
May 1st, 2020, 10:55 pm
:o

This isn't like you, Matt!
I did my ballot in a huge rush because I was right on the deadline. When I do that I generally miss stuff, mainly films I didn't really like at all. I double checked against my IMDB rating history using formulas and found another 60 I didn't vote for. Where I thought they would make a difference, I did write-ins to Angel, plus correcting 2 mistakes which was embarassing. I have been pretty useless this round of DtC. But I have at least managed to support all the films I love. Ended up having seen 201, which was a bit more respectable. I haven't the energy to tank films in like some others here. The volume that the likes of you and PdA and many of the others get through I can't manage. Some of it is I am very reflective so if I watch a good one I'll want to let it sink in for a couple of days. I stopped drinking on 1 January so that may help me see more stuff, can stay awake longer in the evenings. April was certainly the best month for me in many years. I do a lot more social stuff over the last couple of years too. Ideally I would socialise with film nuts, but it's pretty damned hard to find a film bro. My twin used to watch lot of films with me 15 years ago but he has become a bit frightened of it. He's compared arthouse movies to heroin, and I can't disagree! My watching usually goes to zero in the summer, certainly if there are Olympics or World Cup Football or Tour de France on TV, so coronavirus will help me get back on track. My ability to source is bad currently as someone murdered surrealmoviez.
It is the support that matters I suppose. (l) :thumbsup:

I filled my ballot out in a new way this year: Had the ICM list on one half of my screen and the spreadsheet on the other. I'll never go back to the old/standard way I again. So much time was saved. In the past I would open 500+ IMDb titles to confirm whether or not I had seen them. :facepalm:

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Post by xianjiro » May 2nd, 2020, 6:27 pm

joachimt wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 11:30 am
@xianjiro: Why on earth would you go line by line manually when it's so easy to put checkmarks from the iCM-list next to it. Then you can simply filter on your checks. Saves so much time.
I only go line-by-line for things that show up in my rated titles on IMDb. Can't remember exactly, but I think it had something to do with exporting the list and adding it to my combined previous ballots. Then I looked for rated titles and used the IMDb URLs to check the pages. Still, that was over 590 titles when I started.

BTW, I made my list and checked it thrice - well, until the numbers all matched! :smilz19:

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Post by albajos » May 2nd, 2020, 6:40 pm

well, I have both lists icm and imdb lists open. as they are numbered the same, I first see if it's checked, then I check my vote on the imdb list.

In total it only took one hour for the whole list, and I even had to rate 50 or so that is in my backlog in that time.

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Post by Ebbywebby » May 2nd, 2020, 7:49 pm

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/doub ... ulanarchy/

I just opened this list in half the screen so I'd know which films I had checked, and had my ballot open in the other half. I hope this doesn't mean I missed something.

Nice that we have 10 more voters this year. I must confess that I have no idea why the "Sleepers" votes were explicitly pointed out.

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Post by joachimt » May 2nd, 2020, 7:56 pm

Well, as long as you use the iCM- or IMDb-list it's fine. People just shouldn't do this from memory at all to avoid mistakes like LA Plays Itself.

Angel should check for each participants how many checks he has on the iCM-list and if the ballot has more votes than that, the voter should be disqualified. :whistling:
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Post by funkybusiness » May 2nd, 2020, 8:00 pm

y'all are going to fuckin' lose it when LA Plays Itself makes the list higher than Los Angeles Plays Itself.

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Post by sortile9io » May 2nd, 2020, 8:35 pm

joachimt wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 7:56 pm
Angel should check for each participants how many checks he has on the iCM-list and if the ballot has more votes than that, the voter should be disqualified. :whistling:
Yeah, and start by disqualifying himself in the first place for having way more votes (853) in his ballot than checks (257) in his iCM list. :lol:

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Post by Dolwphin » May 2nd, 2020, 9:37 pm

This list is terrible because reasons A,B,C,D,E,F,G and H. There should be more films X and less films Y on the list. However I'm not at all surprised when the participants are mostly Z.

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Post by matthewscott8 » May 2nd, 2020, 10:29 pm

St. Gloede wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 6:18 pm
t is the support that matters I suppose. (l) :thumbsup:

I filled my ballot out in a new way this year: Had the ICM list on one half of my screen and the spreadsheet on the other. I'll never go back to the old/standard way I again. So much time was saved. In the past I would open 500+ IMDb titles to confirm whether or not I had seen them. :facepalm:
a lot of them were spammy noms of unloved movies, I figured I didnt want to be mean to Angel with all the extra write ins! I could actually automate the whole thing. The imdb download gives you your own ratings and the urls. You just paste it into the ballot spreadsheet and do a vlookup. Just have to do a transformation on the ratings so you can convert 1-10 to 0-6. It can be done in 10 minutes, it's definitely what I'm doing next year xD i panicked this year because I realised the deadline was upon us very late.

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Post by mjf314 » May 2nd, 2020, 11:46 pm

St. Gloede wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 6:18 pm
I filled my ballot out in a new way this year: Had the ICM list on one half of my screen and the spreadsheet on the other.
I export the iCM list, copy/paste the "checked" column into the ballot, and then filter (and remove the filter before sending it to Angel). This way I don't have to scroll through the ballot looking for films that I've seen, and there's no risk of making a mistake.

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Post by Labraxas » May 2nd, 2020, 11:49 pm

I am sure allot besides me are already doing this, but a tip for future years can be to download PeacefulAnarchy's list of nominees in ballot order as .csv.
Import it into excel or numbers or whatever spreadsheet program one uses. The .csv contains of course a column of checked movies, stating either 'no' or the checked date.
Adding this 'checked' column to an extra column in the DtC ballot sheet, and then adding a filter for all lines not containing 'no', gives one a condensed and unambiguous view of which movies from the ballot is checked or not. The extra column and filter should be removed before sending to angel.
This saves ALLOT of time, and reduce the possibility of errors enormously.

EDIT: Haha, good to see that I am not the only one!

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Post by joachimt » May 3rd, 2020, 7:23 am

matthewscott8 wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 10:29 pm
St. Gloede wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 6:18 pm
t is the support that matters I suppose. (l) :thumbsup:

I filled my ballot out in a new way this year: Had the ICM list on one half of my screen and the spreadsheet on the other. I'll never go back to the old/standard way I again. So much time was saved. In the past I would open 500+ IMDb titles to confirm whether or not I had seen them. :facepalm:
a lot of them were spammy noms of unloved movies, I figured I didnt want to be mean to Angel with all the extra write ins! I could actually automate the whole thing. The imdb download gives you your own ratings and the urls. You just paste it into the ballot spreadsheet and do a vlookup. Just have to do a transformation on the ratings so you can convert 1-10 to 0-6. It can be done in 10 minutes, it's definitely what I'm doing next year xD i panicked this year because I realised the deadline was upon us very late.
I thought when you download the IMDb-list by PA, you get the ratings by PA in the spreadsheet. You have to make your own IMDb-list from the ballot to get an export with your own ratings.
I hope you didn't vote based on all PA's ratings. :lol:
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Post by Fergenaprido » May 3rd, 2020, 7:23 am

matthewscott8 wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 10:29 pm
St. Gloede wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 6:18 pm
t is the support that matters I suppose. (l) :thumbsup:

I filled my ballot out in a new way this year: Had the ICM list on one half of my screen and the spreadsheet on the other. I'll never go back to the old/standard way I again. So much time was saved. In the past I would open 500+ IMDb titles to confirm whether or not I had seen them. :facepalm:
a lot of them were spammy noms of unloved movies, I figured I didnt want to be mean to Angel with all the extra write ins! I could actually automate the whole thing. The imdb download gives you your own ratings and the urls. You just paste it into the ballot spreadsheet and do a vlookup. Just have to do a transformation on the ratings so you can convert 1-10 to 0-6. It can be done in 10 minutes, it's definitely what I'm doing next year xD i panicked this year because I realised the deadline was upon us very late.
This is essentially what I do, except I use my own spreadsheet instead of the imdb download (you can also use the icm download, since that also has the imdb URL in it). After pasting the formula into the ballot, I go through and review all the films and adjust some of the scores where my feelings about the film maybe have changed since I rated them. But you're right, takes me only about 10 minutes to do. And, I decided to add a column in my regular spreadsheet to add a DTC score conversion, so it'll be even faster next year.
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May 2nd, 2020, 7:56 pm
Well, as long as you use the iCM- or IMDb-list it's fine. People just shouldn't do this from memory at all to avoid mistakes like LA Plays Itself.

Angel should check for each participants how many checks he has on the iCM-list and if the ballot has more votes than that, the voter should be disqualified. :whistling:
I think you're joking here, but there are some participants who do not use icm, so I don't think this is a valid idea.

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Post by joachimt » May 3rd, 2020, 7:29 am

Fergenaprido wrote:
May 3rd, 2020, 7:23 am
joachimt wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 7:56 pm
Well, as long as you use the iCM- or IMDb-list it's fine. People just shouldn't do this from memory at all to avoid mistakes like LA Plays Itself.

Angel should check for each participants how many checks he has on the iCM-list and if the ballot has more votes than that, the voter should be disqualified. :whistling:
I think you're joking here, but there are some participants who do not use icm, so I don't think this is a valid idea.
Of course my last comment was a joke. I just think that using an automated way of doing things should be mandatory. There's no way of checking though.
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Post by xianjiro » May 4th, 2020, 2:34 am

I think I'm going to be doing other things (doubt I'll make a special effort to watch any more DtC nominees before results are announced), so here's my breakdown:

6 0 0%
5 7 1%
4 37 6%
3 190 31%
2 280 45%
1 96 15%
0 10 2%


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Post by joachimt » May 4th, 2020, 6:50 am

joachimt wrote:
April 21st, 2020, 2:42 pm
joachimt wrote:
March 30th, 2020, 6:13 pm
I've sent in my ballot.

520 ratings
average: 3.36
Updated ballot sent.
536 ratings
Didn't even try to watch more nominees, but my random watches in the past two weeks included 4 more nominees. Write-ins sent. 540 ratings now.
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Post by matthewscott8 » May 4th, 2020, 1:55 pm

xianjiro wrote:
May 4th, 2020, 2:34 am
I think I'm going to be doing other things (doubt I'll make a special effort to watch any more DtC nominees before results are announced), so here's my breakdown:

6 0 0%
5 7 1%
4 37 6%
3 190 31%
2 280 45%
1 96 15%
0 10 2%

I hope you haven't seen any of my noms :lol:

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Post by Angel Glez » May 6th, 2020, 6:24 pm

Testing, testing... Stay tuned!


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Post by Angel Glez » May 6th, 2020, 6:43 pm

DtC 2020 Results, part 1

TitleYearDirectorsURLNominatorRATINGVOTESDtC List
482010Susana de Sousa Dias:imdb:Wille4,504
20122013Takashi Makino:imdb:Carmel13793,7810
9/112002James Hanlon, Jules Naudet, Gédéon Naudet:imdb:Nathan Treadway4,0011Image
(M)uchenik2016Kirill Serebrennikov:imdb:hurluberlu2,5011
¡Que Viva Mexico! - Da zdravstvuyet Meksika!1979Sergei M. Eisenstein:imdb:DtC 20153,5230
0.5 miri2014Momoko Andô:imdb:rnilsson193,9011
025 Sunset Red2016Laida Lertxundi:imdb:karldaniel2,638
10 Rillington Place1971Richard Fleischer:imdb:DtC 20153,6746
1000-nen kizami no hidokei1987Shinsuke Ogawa:imdb:DtC 20195,205
21 x Nowy Jork2016Piotr Stasik:imdb:DtC 20195,254
3/60: Bäume im Herbst1960Kurt Kren:imdb:grabmymask2,5620
36 Hours1964George Seaton:imdb:flip3,4512
4 aventures de Reinette et Mirabelle1987Éric Rohmer:imdb:MrCarmady3,9437Image
5 Steps to Danger1956Henry S. Kesler:imdb:Angel Glez2,508
8 Mile2002Curtis Hanson:imdb:TSPDT2,2745
80 Blocks from Tiffany's1979Gary Weis:imdb:DtC 20153,9011
A Beautiful Mind2001Ron Howard:imdb:TSPDT2,0973
A Bread Factory, Part One2018Patrick Wang:imdb:OldAle14,254
A Bread Factory, Part Two2018Patrick Wang:imdb:OldAle14,004
A Child Is Waiting1963John Cassavetes:imdb:Nathan Treadway2,8016
À Flor do Mar1986João César Monteiro:imdb:DtC 20154,1725Image
A Intrusa1979Carlos Hugo Christensen:imdb:DtC 20194,005
À la folie... pas du tout2002Laetitia Colombani:imdb:Cocoa2,6214
A Little Romance1979George Roy Hill:imdb:Nathan Treadway3,0016
À l'ombre de la canaille bleue1986Pierre Clémenti:imdb:matthewscott83,8615
A Man for All Seasons1966Fred Zinnemann:imdb:TSPDT3,3161
A Margem1967Ozualdo Ribeiro Candeias:imdb:Mothravka3,7810
A Married Couple1969Allan King:imdb:DtC 20153,5428
A Mighty Wind2003Christopher Guest:imdb:TSPDT2,8224
À nous la liberté1931René Clair:imdb:TSPDT3,6848
À propos de Nice1930Jean Vigo, Boris Kaufman:imdb:hurluberlu3,4461
A Time to Love and a Time to Die1958Douglas Sirk:imdb:DtC 20154,3934Image
À tout prendre1963Claude Jutra:imdb:Panunzio3,3615
A Tree Grows in Brooklyn1945Elia Kazan:imdb:zzzorf3,8134
A Vingança de Uma Mulher2012Rita Azevedo Gomes:imdb:ofrene4,3114Image
Aa bakudan1964Kihachi Okamoto:imdb:St. Gloede3,8313
Abel1986Alex van Warmerdam:imdb:DtC 20153,2220
Abendland1999Fred Kelemen:imdb:DtC 20193,8011
Above and Beyond1952Melvin Frank, Norman Panama:imdb:sol2,805
Abuse1983Arthur J. Bressan Jr.:imdb:Nathan Treadway4,003
Acciaio1933Walter Ruttmann:imdb:MovieGuide13,119
Acht Stunden sind kein Tag1972:imdb:DtC 20194,7312Image
Across the Bridge1957Ken Annakin:imdb:DtC 20153,9420Image
Acto da Primavera1963Manoel de Oliveira:imdb:Lobo López3,3518
Adams æbler2005Anders Thomas Jensen:imdb:PeacefulAnarchy3,0031
Affliction1997Paul Schrader:imdb:Silga3,3128
Afriques: Comment ça va avec la douleur?1996Raymond Depardon:imdb:DtC 20193,502
Afsporet1942Bodil Ipsen, Lau Lauritzen:imdb:twodeadmagpies3,176
Agelastos petra2000Filippos Koutsaftis:imdb:DtC 20194,205
Agnès de ci de là Varda2011:imdb:sebby4,004

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Post by Angel Glez » May 6th, 2020, 6:44 pm

How does it look? Image

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Post by beavis » May 6th, 2020, 6:50 pm

Nice!
I hope i am not only going to focus on the smileys though... :)
What are the cut of values this time?

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Post by Gordon_Gekko » May 6th, 2020, 7:03 pm

Nice way to present the results. :thumbsup:
Nominator "DtC2015" means it is a... how it's called... re-run?
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Post by rnilsson19 » May 6th, 2020, 7:05 pm

0.5 miri, 3,90, 11 :'(

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Post by OldAle1 » May 6th, 2020, 7:07 pm

Much easier to read than previous years - looks very nice. Maybe a second emoji for films that are on the cusp, the holdovers list?

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » May 6th, 2020, 7:37 pm

Yeah, really like the layout
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What are the cut of values this time?
Between 3.9 and 3.94 based on that batch.

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Post by hurluberlu » May 6th, 2020, 7:43 pm

looks good !

TSDPT dropoffs dont seem to have much success (and my noms)
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Post by St. Gloede » May 6th, 2020, 7:50 pm

Loving this new setup, Angel!

And come on... Aa bakudan almost makes it once again.

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Post by Cocoa » May 6th, 2020, 8:09 pm

Oh, neat layout.

Although it makes no mention of holdover criteria, so are there going to be holdovers for next year or are holdovers a thing that will no longer exist? :unsure:

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Post by Pretentious Hipster » May 6th, 2020, 8:32 pm

Just pasting my noms and holdovers now so I won't forget

American Hunter
Beyond the Mind's Eye
Christus
Dikaya sobaka Dingo
Fourth Era
Kaki kôba
Les divisions de la nature
Les films rêvés
Massillon
Psalm IV: 'Valley of the Shadow'
Science Crazed
Testament

Holdovers:

Babylon
Duende y misterio del flamenco
Fei cheng
Germinal
Staré povesti ceské

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Post by Angel Glez » May 6th, 2020, 8:33 pm

joachimt wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 9:49 am
Average dropped from 3.37 to 3.19. That's a pretty big drop for an average. I wonder if that means the cutoff will be lower. And if so, what will that mean for movies from the last few years which were just below the cutoff?
Yeah, it was a massacre. :lol:

- The DtC list will be reduced to 1100 titles.
- The cutoff will be a bit lower (3,90) so a few runners-up from previous editions will be promoted.
- Holdovers? Yes, as always... unless the upcoming reorganization says otherwise.
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7 votes / rating 4,00 and above
6 votes / rating 4,17 and above
5 votes / rating 4,40 and above
4 votes / rating 4,75 and above
3 votes / rating 5,33 and above
2 votes / rating 6,0

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Post by RBG » May 6th, 2020, 8:50 pm

rnilsson19 wrote:
May 6th, 2020, 7:05 pm
0.5 miri, 3,90, 11 :'(
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Post by RogerTheMovieManiac88 » May 6th, 2020, 10:04 pm

I love the tabling of the results. Really nice and accessible!
That's all, folks!

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Post by zzzorf » May 6th, 2020, 10:20 pm

I agree that the layout is great but echo the sentiment that we need an emoji to mark the holdovers.

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Post by Ebbywebby » May 6th, 2020, 11:27 pm

You could fill in the obviously missing Fassbinder and Varda credits....

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Post by zhangalan » May 7th, 2020, 12:20 am

Very nice design of result display, Angel!

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Post by funkybusiness » May 7th, 2020, 12:21 am

F5 season laddies

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Post by Nathan Treadway » May 7th, 2020, 2:18 am

I'll echo everyone else, loving the layout!

Looks like for the second year in a row, I'm not getting shutout! :banana:

9/11 4.00 11 votes
A Child is Waiting 2.80 16 votes (really?! Much lower than I'd have expected)
A Little Romance 3.00 16 votes
Abuse 4.00 3 votes. I may renominate this one, although I'm not too sure how to get more people to watch this.. I've already drove people crazy with a film, and while it sort of worked, I've never been able to get it to work for this, so, I skipped nominating it this year.

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Post by sebby » May 7th, 2020, 2:38 am

80 Blocks From Tiffanys. Sad face.

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Post by sebby » May 7th, 2020, 4:24 am

And yes, layout is akin to upgrading from vhs to DVD. Good shit.

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