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World Cup, Season 4, Match 1F: Brazil vs Greece vs Japan vs Poland (Apr 5th)

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Post by joachimt » March 8th, 2020, 8:00 pm

This is match 1F of the fourth season of iCM Forum's Film World Cup.

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BrazilA Alma do OssoThe Soul of the Bone2004beavislinklink
GreeceI fotografiaThe Photograph1986burneyfanlinklink
JapanTsigoineruwaizenZigeunerweisen1980Gordon_Gekkolinklink
PolandKorczak1990sebbylinklink

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A Alma do Osso
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I fotografia
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Tsigoineruwaizen
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Korczak
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Voting Rules:
- You must watch all 4 films before you vote.
- To vote, rank the 4 films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)

Voting deadline = Apr 5th
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The countries that end at 1st and 2nd place proceed to the next round. The ranking of the match will be decided using these rules:
- Ranked by highest average ranking (= lowest number).
- In case of a tie between two movies, head-to-head determines the winner (how many people thought A>B and how many thought B>A).
- In case there's still a tie after the previous rule or there is a tie between three or four movies, most #1-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? Fewest #4-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? The match will have a 3 day extension (except when the tie is only between #3 and #4).
Here's a quick summary of how the tournament worksShow
We start with 32 films from 32 countries. Each country has a manager who determines which movie will be watched. In the first round the countries are divided into 8 groups of 4. From each group the countries that end up at #1 and #2 proceed to the next round. In the 2nd round the 16 remaining countries will be divided into 8 matches of 2. The managers pick a new movie. The winner of each match proceeds to the next round. This continues till the final.
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Post by 72aicm » March 8th, 2020, 8:24 pm

1. Korczak
2. I fotografia
3. A Alma do Osso
4. Tsigoineruwaizen

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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 8th, 2020, 8:32 pm

1. Korczak
2. A Alma do Osso
3. I fotografia
4. Tsigoineruwaizen

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#4

Post by Armoreska » March 8th, 2020, 9:51 pm

What an OP group. Two previous winners, top of the ranks in all time success, #11 Greece and #19 Brazil.
Japan off into a hole from the start (again actually).
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Post by Cocoa » March 10th, 2020, 12:50 am

1. Tsigoineruwaizen 7/10
2. Korczak 6/10
3. I fotografia 4/10
4. A Alma do Osso 3/10

THE BOREDOM I felt watching most of these films (plus annoyance in the case of I fotografia). A Alma do Osso would have been ranked third or second if it was just scenery shots and no man. The film gave me no reason to care about the guy and I would have liked some narration at the beginning to give me a reason to care but then the man ends up rambling near the end and I end up disliking the film even more so maybe no sound at all would have been better. Tsigoineruwaizen was the only film I watched years ago out of this group and I remember the colors fondly. Korczak was decent but made me yawn frequently. I watched Korczak immediately after A Alma do Osso, so perhaps the first film made me sleepy from boredom while the second just had a bunch of slow moments that could have been cut without harming the film overall.

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Post by pitchorneirda » March 10th, 2020, 10:43 pm

1. I Fotografia
2. Korczak
3. A Alma do Osso
4. Tsigoineruwaizen

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Post by jvv » March 14th, 2020, 10:58 am

1. Korczak
2. Tsigoineruwaizen
3. I Fotografia
4. A Alma do Osso

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Post by klaus78 » March 14th, 2020, 7:08 pm

1. A Alma do Osso (Brazil) 8/10
2. Korczak (Poland) 7/10
3. Tsigoineruwaizen (Japan) 7/10
4. I fotografia (Greece) 7/10
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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 16th, 2020, 8:46 am

Image Korczak 15-3
Image I fotografia 8-10
Image A Alma do Osso 7-11
Image Tsigoineruwaizen 6-12

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Post by joachimt » March 16th, 2020, 8:59 am

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Post by Armoreska » March 16th, 2020, 9:20 am

If Japan loses, Poland may become the #1 all time WC country
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Post by sebby » March 17th, 2020, 4:35 am

Armoreska wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 9:20 am
If Japan loses, Poland may become the #1 all time WC country
Finally, #1 in something other than vodka-fueled wedding outbursts.

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Post by zhangalan » March 18th, 2020, 5:24 am

1. I Fotografia
2. Tsigoineruwaizen
3. Korczak
4. A Alma do Osso

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Post by joachimt » March 19th, 2020, 6:34 pm

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Is he talking about the Covid-19 crisis?
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Post by mjf314 » March 19th, 2020, 6:50 pm

I haven't seen the others, but I'm surprised that Tsigoineruwaizen is doing poorly. I thought it was very good.

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Post by Smoover » March 20th, 2020, 11:37 am

1. Korczak 8.0/10
2. A Alma do Osso 6.0/10
3. Tsigoineruwaizen 5.0/10
4. I Fotografia 5.0/10

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Post by joachimt » March 21st, 2020, 7:20 am

1. Korczak 8-
2. I Fotografia 7+
3. Tsigoineruwaizen 7-
4. A Alma do Osso 6
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Post by Armoreska » March 22nd, 2020, 1:59 am

Korczak 7-
Zigeunerweisen 5-
I fotografia 4
A Alma do Osso 3+
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Post by clemmetarey » March 26th, 2020, 10:07 pm

1. Tsigoineruwaizen (1980) 6/10
2. I fotografia (1986) 6/10
3. Korczak (1990) 5/10
4. A Alma do Osso (2004) 5/10

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Post by beavis » March 27th, 2020, 4:40 pm

A Alma do Osso - 8.5
Zigeunerweisen - 8.5
Korczak - 8
I fotografia - 7

damn, pool of death for me here... :)
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Post by kingink » March 27th, 2020, 6:32 pm

1. I Fotografia
2. Korczak
3. Tsigoineruwaizen
4. A Alma do Osso

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Post by joachimt » March 27th, 2020, 7:32 pm

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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 27th, 2020, 8:08 pm

Image Korczak 29-10
Image I fotografia 19-20
Image Tsigoineruwaizen 17-22
Image A Alma do Osso 13-26

9.5 days left.

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Post by joachimt » March 28th, 2020, 6:48 am

Mario Gaborović wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 8:08 pm
Image Korczak 29-10
Image I fotografia 19-20
Image Tsigoineruwaizen 17-22
Image A Alma do Osso 13-26

9.5 days left.
Double check:

Image Korczak: 1.769 (29-10)
Image I fotografia: 2.538 (19-20)
Image Tsigoineruwaizen: 2.615 (18-21)
Image A Alma do Osso: 3.077 (12-27)

Let's both recount...
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Post by joachimt » March 28th, 2020, 6:51 am

I can't find mistakes in my count.
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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 28th, 2020, 8:34 am

joachimt wrote:
March 28th, 2020, 6:51 am
I can't find mistakes in my count.
That's possible, I often go wrong with these numbers. So we'll take your count.

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Post by weirdboy » Yesterday, 9:32 am

1. Tsigoineruwaizen ツウィゴイネルワイゼン AKA Zigeunerweisen (1980) - Seijun Suzuki
2. Korczak (1990) - Andrzej Wajda
3. I fotografia (1986) - Nikos Papatakis
4. A Alma do Osso AKA The Soul of the Bone (2004) - Cao Guimarães

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