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500<400, Favourite 1001 movies, Doubling the Canon, Film World Cup and many other votes
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zzzorf wrote: October 16th, 2019, 11:33 am @ChrisReynnolds any chance of a list of the 11 Australian movies, want to know if there is any I have missed as I am trying to plow my way through my home countries offerings to the cinematic world.
1000<400 Australian films:

122. Black Harvest (1992)
359. The Tracker (2002)
523. Alexandra's Project (2003)
570. Travellers & Magicians (2003)
583. The Plumber (1979)
636. Samson and Delilah (2009)
762. Long Weekend (1978)
785. Tanna (2015)
808. The Year My Voice Broke (1987)
942. The Interview (1998)
964. BabaKiueria (1986)
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ChrisReynolds wrote: October 16th, 2019, 11:57 am
zzzorf wrote: October 16th, 2019, 11:33 am @ChrisReynnolds any chance of a list of the 11 Australian movies, want to know if there is any I have missed as I am trying to plow my way through my home countries offerings to the cinematic world.
1000<400 Australian films:

122. Black Harvest (1992)
359. The Tracker (2002)
523. Alexandra's Project (2003)
570. Travellers & Magicians (2003)
583. The Plumber (1979)
636. Samson and Delilah (2009)
762. Long Weekend (1978)
785. Tanna (2015)
808. The Year My Voice Broke (1987)
942. The Interview (1998)
964. BabaKiueria (1986)
Thanks. I really need to look into these. While I have seen quite a bit of Australian cinema I have only seen 3 of these movies.
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Thanks, Chris
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zzzorf wrote: October 16th, 2019, 12:02 pm
ChrisReynolds wrote: October 16th, 2019, 11:57 am
zzzorf wrote: October 16th, 2019, 11:33 am @ChrisReynnolds any chance of a list of the 11 Australian movies, want to know if there is any I have missed as I am trying to plow my way through my home countries offerings to the cinematic world.
1000<400 Australian films:

122. Black Harvest (1992)
359. The Tracker (2002)
523. Alexandra's Project (2003)
570. Travellers & Magicians (2003)
583. The Plumber (1979)
636. Samson and Delilah (2009)
762. Long Weekend (1978)
785. Tanna (2015)
808. The Year My Voice Broke (1987)
942. The Interview (1998)
964. BabaKiueria (1986)
Thanks. I really need to look into these. While I have seen quite a bit of Australian cinema I have only seen 3 of these movies.
Travellers and Magicians Australian? Must only be because of financial support?
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Nathan Treadway wrote: October 17th, 2019, 3:57 am
zzzorf wrote: October 16th, 2019, 12:02 pm
Thanks. I really need to look into these. While I have seen quite a bit of Australian cinema I have only seen 3 of these movies.
Travellers and Magicians Australian? Must only be because of financial support?
Yeah, AU comes up first in the IMDb listing, so one would assume. Can't remember how deep the script shared earlier (and I've not used personally) was billed as going: does it just return the first entry in the country field?
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Travelers and Magicians (a film in my top 100) is more correctly a film from Bhutan (as is it's director and setting), though the financing seems to come largely from Australia. If Norbu actually lived and worked out of Australia, I suppose there might be a case for it being Australian, but that is not the case.

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The feature films of Bhutanese writer and director Khyentse Norbu have received accolades, honours, and awards at numerous international film festivals.

Norbu's first film, The Cup (1999), became an international sensation after its premiere screening at the Cannes Film Festival's prestigious Director's Fortnight. It went on to win critical acclaim and official selections at major festivals worldwide, including Sundance, Hong Kong, London, and Moscow. It won awards at four international festivals, including an International Federation of Film Critics (FIPRESCI) award at Busan and an audience award at the Toronto International Film Festival.

Norbu's second film, Travellers & Magicians (2003), was the first full-length feature film shot in the Himalayan Kingdom of Bhutan. It premiered at the Venice International Film Festival and went on to the Toronto, Busan, Taipei (Golden Horse), Sao Paulo, London, Sydney, Moscow, and other film festivals, winning three awards.

His third feature film, Vara: A Blessing (2013), based on a short story by Bengali author Sunil Gangopadhyay and filmed in Sri Lanka, attracted top international collaborators, including award-winning cinematographer Bradford Young and acclaimed editor William Chang. The film starred Indian ingénue Shahana Goswami. Vara premiered as the opening film at the Busan International Film Festival and went on to screen at several film festivals world-wide, including the BFI London Film Festival, the Taipei Golden Horse Film Festival, and the Tribeca International Film Festival, where it had its North American premiere and won the Best Feature Film award at the Tribeca Online Film Festival. Hema Hema: Sing Me a Song While I Wait (2016), Norbu's fourth feature film, is his most personal to date. Shot in remote parts of Bhutan on a very low budget, the film premiered at the Locarno Film Festival and was screened at the Toronto, Busan, Singapore, and Malaysian International Film Festivals, and at the London BFI, JIO Mama (Mumbai), Osaka Asian, and Taipei Golden Horse Film Festivals among many others. The film won the audience choice award at the 2016 Golden Global Awards at the Malaysian International Film Festival and honourable mention at the 2016 Toronto International Film Festival.

Known in the Buddhist world as Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche, Norbu brings to his films a profound and subtle mastery and understanding of Buddhist philosophy and practice. He studied and trained with some of the leading Tibetan Buddhist masters of the 20th century, graduated from secular schools in India and Europe, and teaches Buddhism on five continents. He is the author of several books on following the Buddhist path in the contemporary world, including the best-selling What Makes You Not a Buddhist.

Khyentse Norbu also oversees the nonprofit organizations Siddhartha's Intent, Khyentse Foundation, 84000, and Lotus Outreach as well as contemporary teaching and practice centres on five continents. He is responsible for the care and education of 1,600 monks in six monasteries and institutes in Asia, and is head of Dzongsar Monastery and College in Tibet, Dzongsar Khyentse Institute in India, and Chökyi Gyatso Institute for Buddhist Studies in Bhutan.
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^thus why I don't solely rely on IMDb to tell which country to assign a movie to. B) I haven't looked to see if it's changed, but my understanding, is like language, editors are supposed to list countries in the order of financing provided. Thus so many films clearly made by and in Africa will list a European country first. (But most of you already know that. ;) )
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Yes, that is why I calculated the top 250 manually. IMDb's country stats are extremely flawed - though it is still a great indicator.
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Une femme douce only a matter of hours ago became the first film in our top 1000 to reach 400 checks -- and it's in the top half.
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Movies seen: 156/500 (31.2%) & 252/1000 (25.2%)
Movies I voted for: 52/500 (10.4%) (8.9% of my list of 587) & 112/1000 (11.2%) (19.1% of my list of 587)
Highest movie unseen: #8 Akai tenshi [Red Angel] (1966)
Highest favourite: #5 Az ötödik pecsét [The Fifth Seal] (1976)
Highest dislike: #17 Final Cut: Hölgyeim és uraim [Final Cut: Ladies and Gentlemen] (2012)
Highest (non-favourite) movie I voted for: #1 Kočár do Vídně [Carriage to Vienna] (1966)
Highest (non-dislike) movie seen I didn't vote for: #3 Shura [Demons] (1971)
Position of my #1: #336 Jusaqu'à la garde [Custody] (2017)
My highest vote that didn't make the list: #760 Closet Monster (2015) (my #2)
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sol wrote: October 15th, 2019, 9:56 am 1000<400 list is now fully updated.

Let me know if there are any errors.

I've checked 254 / 1000.
I've only got 54/1000 checked. Too much work to do... :o
Also realized I need to start this in March to have it done properly by Sept. I probably thought this last year too, but time has a way of moving faster than life allows.
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PeacefulAnarchy wrote: October 11th, 2019, 6:07 pm #543(⇩155, #388) Urga (1991)
[Close to Eden]

Directed by: Nikita Mikhalkov
(245.59 Pts, 7 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 1–2–2
History: 543388167231264163←380
ICheckMovies: 356 Checks , 32 Favourites , 5 Official lists
List of Voters:
Nopros (1)
sortile9io (5)
Gorro (106)
Cinephage (141)
jeroeno (150)
xianjiro (413)
mathiasa (422)
6 straight years on the list, I'm sad. :(
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peeptoad wrote: October 17th, 2019, 5:25 pmI've only got 54/1000 checked. Too much work to do... :o
Also realized I need to start this in March to have it done properly by Sept. I probably thought this last year too, but time has a way of moving faster than life allows.
Sorry - start what in March? Watching films or making your list?

Thanks for participating this year!
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Don't forget to share the spreadsheet, PA. :whistling:
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sol wrote: October 17th, 2019, 11:17 pm
peeptoad wrote: October 17th, 2019, 5:25 pmI've only got 54/1000 checked. Too much work to do... :o
Also realized I need to start this in March to have it done properly by Sept. I probably thought this last year too, but time has a way of moving faster than life allows.
Sorry - start what in March? Watching films or making your list?

Thanks for participating this year!
Making the list... I forgot probably 8-10 films on my own list. Maybe if I started sooner that wouldn't happen. :shrug:
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peeptoad wrote: October 18th, 2019, 9:36 am
sol wrote: October 17th, 2019, 11:17 pm
peeptoad wrote: October 17th, 2019, 5:25 pmI've only got 54/1000 checked. Too much work to do... :o
Also realized I need to start this in March to have it done properly by Sept. I probably thought this last year too, but time has a way of moving faster than life allows.
Sorry - start what in March? Watching films or making your list?

Thanks for participating this year!
Making the list... I forgot probably 8-10 films on my own list. Maybe if I started sooner that wouldn't happen. :shrug:
Oh yeah. Personally speaking, I update my list throughout the year rather than trying to update everything at once.
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thanks PA :thumbsup:

If anyone needs this in xls format, let me know and I can reup it.
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xianjiro wrote: October 20th, 2019, 2:49 am thanks PA :thumbsup:

If anyone needs this in xls format, let me know and I can reup it.
Please. :)
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Angel Glez wrote: October 20th, 2019, 8:55 am
xianjiro wrote: October 20th, 2019, 2:49 am thanks PA :thumbsup:

If anyone needs this in xls format, let me know and I can reup it.
Please. :)
Here you go https://we.tl/t-gXfr1dq44Q - I don't know much about the formats, but converting it tripled the size. I've looked through the file for obvious issues and found none, but that said, I didn't examine every field. B) Other than that, should be good to go.
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As usual, here are the top affinities for the 118 participants using our 36304 votes on 18124 films (last year we were 126 participants, 35356 votes and 17595 films):

Results
VoterTop affinities
1SOTarris1 (10.5%), Leopardi (8.7%), PeacefulAnarchy (7.9%), burneyfan (7.5%)
3eyesburneyfan (8.6%), xianjiro (7.3%), jeroeno (6.7%), sushantv10 (6.5%)
72allinncallmexianjiro (24.5%), joachimt (18.2%), jeroeno (16.0%), Gorro (15.3%)
AB537connordenney (5.1%), toromash (4.9%), xianjiro (4.7%), funkybusiness (4.6%)
albajos72allinncallme (5.2%), jeroeno (3.5%), Lilarcor (2.9%), xianjiro (2.8%)
amechsnerGorro (6.6%), xianjiro (6.2%), mjf314 (4.8%), Ivan0716 (4.6%)
Angel Glez Muellwind (7.4%), sushantv10 (6.5%), xianjiro (6.2%), Gorro (5.9%)
ApuKasparius (9.5%), PeacefulAnarchy (8.6%), bal3x (7.9%), perceval (7.8%)
Asbergweirdboy (6.2%), zhangalan (5.6%), tourdesb (5.4%), xianjiro (5.2%)
BaalManjeroeno (14.8%), joachimt (13.9%), Melvelet (12.4%), Ivan0716 (11.7%)
Badgerrussa03 (7.1%), xianjiro (5.5%), Kasparius (4.5%), sol (4.5%)
bal3xjoachimt (17.0%), xianjiro (14.6%), sushantv10 (12.8%), sebby (12.8%)
beasternexianjiro (2.8%), connordenney (2.8%), flaiky (2.6%), tourdesb (2.4%)
beavisMothravka (15.6%), Ivan0716 (14.9%), perceval (12.4%), Melvelet (12.3%)
bjornamIvan0716 (14.0%), zuma (13.3%), klaus78 (12.6%), perceval (12.5%)
blochoburneyfan (11.6%), Mochard (10.7%), sushantv10 (10.7%), xianjiro (10.5%)
burneyfanKasparius (27.8%), sushantv10 (22.8%), xianjiro (19.2%), joachimt (18.7%)
Captain_Zimmermann1SO (4.3%), Tarris1 (3.9%), Mifune (3.8%), flaiky (3.5%)
Carmel1379Perception de Ambiguity (21.4%), GruesomeTwosome (15.0%), perceval (10.5%), toromash (8.7%)
cayado-coroTarris1 (14.1%), sushantv10 (12.6%), Cinephage (11.2%), Kasparius (11.1%)
cayhxianjiro (14.4%), 72allinncallme (11.8%), sebby (10.9%), Smoover (9.5%)
ChrisReynoldsmightysparks (9.2%), filmbantha (7.0%), peeptoad (6.4%), Perception de Ambiguity (6.3%)
Cinephagejeroeno (13.8%), Tarris1 (12.8%), sushantv10 (12.6%), xianjiro (12.0%)
CinepolisTraveller (5.5%), zhangalan (4.9%), John Milton (4.8%), sushantv10 (4.7%)
cinewestxianjiro (9.1%), Gorro (5.9%), flaiky (5.6%), Cinephage (5.3%)
clemmetareyklaus78 (12.4%), jeroeno (12.3%), Melvelet (11.3%), Rokp (10.7%)
Cocoaxianjiro (8.3%), TraverseTown (6.0%), sushantv10 (5.7%), Ebbywebby (5.5%)
connordenneyperceval (7.0%), xianjiro (7.0%), Mothravka (6.9%), Lonewolf2003 (5.9%)
Daviddoesxianjiro (8.8%), 72allinncallme (7.6%), weirdboy (7.4%), sebby (7.2%)
Dolwphinperceval (30.1%), Mothravka (26.5%), insomnius (20.4%), XxXApathy420XxX (19.1%)
Ebbywebbyxianjiro (14.7%), zuma (14.0%), Melvelet (14.0%), burneyfan (12.7%)
Eve-Lang-El-CoupMate_cosido (10.0%), Ivan0716 (9.3%), joachimt (8.9%), xianjiro (8.6%)
explorer95tommy_leazaq (7.7%), Gershwin (7.0%), Lilarcor (6.5%), BaalMan (4.7%)
Fergenapridoxianjiro (13.6%), tommy_leazaq (12.9%), Mochard (12.0%), joachimt (10.5%)
filmbanthaGorro (12.2%), xianjiro (10.3%), tommy_leazaq (10.3%), 72allinncallme (10.3%)
flaikyxianjiro (16.6%), outdoorcats (11.0%), jeff_v (8.7%), klaus78 (8.6%)
frbrownPeacefulAnarchy (11.3%), cayado-coro (10.8%), sushantv10 (10.4%), Tarris1 (8.9%)
funkybusinessXxXApathy420XxX (18.8%), perceval (14.9%), tommy_leazaq (13.8%), Dolwphin (13.7%)
Gershwintommy_leazaq (19.8%), xianjiro (18.9%), jeroeno (15.9%), sebby (14.4%)
Gordon_GekkoSmoover (12.9%), Mifune (12.8%), Gorro (10.9%), Tarris1 (10.2%)
Gorroxianjiro (19.8%), tommy_leazaq (17.9%), joachimt (16.2%), 72allinncallme (15.3%)
gromit82jeff_v (5.2%), Opio (4.3%), Fergenaprido (3.3%), paul281f (3.0%)
GruesomeTwosomeCarmel1379 (15.0%), xianjiro (9.6%), Perception de Ambiguity (6.6%), flaiky (5.5%)
HarcoGorro (5.8%), John Milton (5.5%), joachimt (4.6%), filmbantha (4.0%)
hurluberluxianjiro (15.4%), Smoover (11.1%), joachimt (10.6%), klaus78 (10.0%)
insomniusperceval (23.2%), Mothravka (21.7%), rnilsson19 (21.3%), XxXApathy420XxX (20.5%)
Ivan0716Melvelet (18.9%), xianjiro (18.9%), klaus78 (18.2%), Mothravka (17.4%)
jal90Ivan0716 (10.9%), joachimt (9.8%), mjf314 (9.2%), Rokp (8.7%)
jeff_vxianjiro (18.1%), burneyfan (15.3%), sushantv10 (15.1%), joachimt (14.6%)
jeroenoxianjiro (24.7%), joachimt (22.6%), sushantv10 (21.3%), klaus78 (21.2%)
Jimi Antiloop xianjiro (5.0%), 72allinncallme (4.2%), Perception de Ambiguity (3.8%), toromash (3.2%)
jlfitzsushantv10 (11.7%), xianjiro (11.2%), jeroeno (10.5%), joachimt (9.2%)
joachimtxianjiro (25.2%), jeroeno (22.6%), Melvelet (21.8%), klaus78 (20.8%)
John Milton Gorro (10.9%), xianjiro (9.8%), toromash (9.8%), cayh (8.8%)
jvvxianjiro (12.6%), tommy_leazaq (11.6%), Mochard (11.2%), Nopros (11.1%)
Kaspariusburneyfan (27.8%), sushantv10 (17.8%), Tarris1 (15.4%), jeff_v (13.2%)
klaus78xianjiro (24.0%), zuma (23.1%), Melvelet (23.1%), XxXApathy420XxX (22.5%)
Lammetjesushantv10 (11.6%), Tarris1 (8.9%), xianjiro (8.7%), Nopros (7.9%)
Leopardixianjiro (14.8%), sushantv10 (14.0%), Tarris1 (13.3%), burneyfan (11.3%)
Lilarcortommy_leazaq (19.5%), xianjiro (16.2%), joachimt (14.4%), XxXApathy420XxX (13.8%)
lineuphererussa03 (5.6%), Melvelet (3.8%), Badger (3.7%), joachimt (3.3%)
Lonewolf2003xianjiro (16.0%), tommy_leazaq (13.9%), Gorro (13.8%), klaus78 (12.3%)
Mario Gaborović Muellwind (10.2%), tommy_leazaq (5.8%), blocho (4.9%), Ivan0716 (4.4%)
Mate_cosidoxianjiro (14.7%), klaus78 (14.2%), sushantv10 (13.7%), Traveller (13.3%)
mathiasaxianjiro (12.3%), joachimt (10.5%), bal3x (10.4%), jeroeno (9.9%)
matthewscott8perceval (9.6%), rnilsson19 (9.0%), insomnius (8.4%), Dolwphin (8.3%)
maxwelldeux72allinncallme (8.5%), xianjiro (5.1%), Swift Variation (4.6%), flaiky (3.8%)
Melveletklaus78 (23.1%), joachimt (21.8%), zuma (19.5%), Ivan0716 (18.9%)
MifuneGordon_Gekko (12.8%), Ivan0716 (9.5%), Melvelet (8.3%), bal3x (8.0%)
mightysparksMochard (10.0%), ChrisReynolds (9.2%), filmbantha (7.2%), weirdboy (7.2%)
mjf314klaus78 (17.3%), zhangalan (16.8%), Melvelet (16.7%), joachimt (14.6%)
Mochardtommy_leazaq (16.9%), sushantv10 (13.5%), Lilarcor (13.0%), xianjiro (12.7%)
monclivie72allinncallme (11.7%), xianjiro (8.9%), cayh (8.0%), Lonewolf2003 (7.8%)
Mothravkaperceval (31.9%), Dolwphin (26.5%), XxXApathy420XxX (21.8%), insomnius (21.7%)
MuellwindIvan0716 (15.8%), joachimt (14.5%), Smoover (13.5%), xianjiro (13.3%)
musikurtFergenaprido (4.5%), lineuphere (2.6%), sacmersault (2.2%), jvv (1.1%)
Nathan Treadway xianjiro (12.2%), 72allinncallme (10.8%), tommy_leazaq (10.5%), joachimt (10.2%)
nimimerkillinenxianjiro (9.7%), toromash (9.6%), klaus78 (8.9%), 72allinncallme (8.3%)
Noprosxianjiro (17.7%), sushantv10 (16.0%), 72allinncallme (14.0%), joachimt (13.2%)
Onderhondbeavis (5.3%), Carmel1379 (5.0%), mjf314 (3.9%), Lonewolf2003 (3.4%)
OpioLeopardi (8.8%), jeff_v (6.0%), zuma (6.0%), xianjiro (5.9%)
outdoorcatsxianjiro (13.5%), flaiky (11.0%), Ivan0716 (9.6%), klaus78 (9.3%)
paul281fEbbywebby (11.9%), xianjiro (10.6%), russa03 (10.1%), PynchonesquePatrick (9.9%)
PeacefulAnarchysushantv10 (16.3%), xianjiro (15.2%), jeroeno (12.8%), jeff_v (11.7%)
peeptoadrnilsson19 (6.6%), ChrisReynolds (6.4%), sol (6.1%), Daviddoes (4.8%)
Perception de Ambiguity Carmel1379 (21.4%), XxXApathy420XxX (10.9%), perceval (10.4%), bal3x (10.0%)
percevalMothravka (31.9%), Dolwphin (30.1%), XxXApathy420XxX (23.8%), insomnius (23.2%)
PGonzalezzuma (8.1%), xianjiro (7.2%), klaus78 (6.9%), funkybusiness (6.7%)
PynchonesquePatrickjoachimt (12.2%), russa03 (11.0%), paul281f (9.9%), klaus78 (8.9%)
RBGperceval (20.5%), XxXApathy420XxX (20.3%), rnilsson19 (15.5%), Mothravka (14.7%)
rnilsson19insomnius (21.3%), XxXApathy420XxX (17.6%), perceval (17.4%), RBG (15.5%)
Rokpmjf314 (14.2%), jeroeno (12.6%), klaus78 (11.9%), Melvelet (11.6%)
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solxianjiro (10.3%), Ebbywebby (10.1%), 72allinncallme (8.6%), paul281f (7.2%)
sortile9ioxianjiro (11.9%), klaus78 (9.3%), XxXApathy420XxX (8.5%), Mate_cosido (8.5%)
St. Gloede joachimt (15.8%), Ivan0716 (15.3%), Melvelet (14.5%), burneyfan (12.9%)
sushantv10xianjiro (24.8%), Tarris1 (23.0%), burneyfan (22.8%), jeroeno (21.3%)
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Tarris1sushantv10 (23.0%), Kasparius (15.4%), xianjiro (14.8%), cayado-coro (14.1%)
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tommy_leazaqXxXApathy420XxX (27.9%), xianjiro (22.2%), klaus78 (21.3%), Gershwin (19.8%)
toromashxianjiro (17.7%), russa03 (14.8%), klaus78 (11.9%), bal3x (11.4%)
tourdesbsushantv10 (8.0%), weirdboy (7.2%), Kasparius (6.8%), jeroeno (6.7%)
TravellerMelvelet (16.7%), klaus78 (16.6%), Ivan0716 (15.4%), zuma (14.5%)
TraverseTownPerception de Ambiguity (6.7%), vortexsurfer (6.6%), Ebbywebby (6.6%), rnilsson19 (6.1%)
vortexsurferTraverseTown (6.6%), rnilsson19 (5.7%), filmbantha (5.5%), sebby (5.1%)
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wasabiGorro (5.9%), mjf314 (3.8%), mightysparks (3.5%), amechsner (3.5%)
weirdboysushantv10 (16.6%), xianjiro (16.5%), klaus78 (15.3%), joachimt (13.9%)
Wonderful Rainbow bal3x (9.3%), klaus78 (8.9%), xianjiro (8.6%), weirdboy (7.6%)
xianjirojoachimt (25.2%), sushantv10 (24.8%), jeroeno (24.7%), 72allinncallme (24.5%)
XxXApathy420XxXtommy_leazaq (27.9%), perceval (23.8%), klaus78 (22.5%), Mothravka (21.8%)
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Thank you sortile9io. :cheers:
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Thanks sortie.

Me last year:
Fergenapridotommy_leazaq (12.3%), bal3x (10.9%), joachimt (10.9%), xianjiro (10.5%)


Me this year:
Fergenapridoxianjiro (13.6%), tommy_leazaq (12.9%), Mochard (12.0%), joachimt (10.5%)


I also appeared in one more person's affinities this year (Armo & musikurt last year; gromit, musikurt, and sacmersault this year).

xian jumped to my top affinity, and now I just realized how prevalent he is. He was in 20 people's top 4 last year, and is now in 69 people's top 4 this year!
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Fergenaprido wrote: October 20th, 2019, 12:22 pm Thanks sortie.

Me last year:
Fergenapridotommy_leazaq (12.3%), bal3x (10.9%), joachimt (10.9%), xianjiro (10.5%)


Me this year:
Fergenapridoxianjiro (13.6%), tommy_leazaq (12.9%), Mochard (12.0%), joachimt (10.5%)


I also appeared in one more person's affinities this year (Armo & musikurt last year; gromit, musikurt, and sacmersault this year).

xian jumped to my top affinity, and now I just realized how prevalent he is. He was in 20 people's top 4 last year, and is now in 69 people's top 4 this year!
:blush:

doesn't surprise me we have some overlap, FP, since we both pay a bit more attention to LGBTQ cinema - so there is likely to be some overlap

As for the rest, I'll just put it down to a concerted effort to 1) get bronze on 500<400 on last year's poll, 2) pretend I got bronze on 1000<400, and 3) using the 1000<400 as a template for my ballot. It's probably doubtful that, if we removed titles from the 1000<400 from my ballot, there would be much, if any, overlap. For example, only Leopardi and I voted for Lewis & Clark: The Journey of the Corps of Discovery (1997), but we both had it in our top 10 top 20 if I remember correctly. (edit: doubled checked that)

Sorry about that folks! :worship:
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Nothing to be ashamed of or to apologize for xian :) I was just surprised and thought it noteworthy. :)
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xianjiro wrote: October 17th, 2019, 4:32 am
Nathan Treadway wrote: October 17th, 2019, 3:57 am
zzzorf wrote: October 16th, 2019, 12:02 pm
Thanks. I really need to look into these. While I have seen quite a bit of Australian cinema I have only seen 3 of these movies.
Travellers and Magicians Australian? Must only be because of financial support?
Yeah, AU comes up first in the IMDb listing, so one would assume. Can't remember how deep the script shared earlier (and I've not used personally) was billed as going: does it just return the first entry in the country field?
It returns all entries in the country field, but there were no films in the 500<400 list where Australia was not listed first.
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ChrisReynolds wrote: October 11th, 2019, 4:28 pm
joachimt wrote: October 11th, 2019, 4:06 pm Please share that script, Chris! That's very useful.
Here are two Perl scripts I wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lofesyr48nzu7 ... t.zip?dl=0

urlRipper.pl downloads all the IMDb pages listed in urlList.txt. When it's finished, run it again to check if any pages failed to download. Then run imdb_parser to compile all the downloaded IMDb pages into a table.
I've been trying to use this but when I try to run it I get a 'free to wrong pool' error and it crashes. I couldn't find anything useful Googling so Idk if I'm missing something simple?
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So, I finally got interested enough to (have the computer) do the math - there are 99 titles on both the 2019 500<400 and 2019 DtC, 55 titles on both the 2019 500<400 and TSPDT 2000, and only 13 titles on both the 2019 500<400 and TSPDT 1000. Given that (excluding this year) TSPDT films are excluded from DtC,

Have we ever considered excluding films from at least DtC, but possibly also TSPDT 1000 & 2000, from inclusion in the 500<400?

I know 1/5th or 20% overlap might not seem like much, but when I'm checking titles from one or the other it sure seems like there are are more shared titles than that. Such a move would really shake things up.
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xianjiro wrote: April 5th, 2020, 9:11 amHave we ever considered excluding films from at least DtC, but possibly also TSPDT 1000 & 2000, from inclusion in the 500<400?
I think that's way too ambitious with the DTC given the volatility of the list (all films get re-voted every five years), but certainly with the TSPDT Top 1000, I think it would be viable to put exclusions in place.
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No, the only qualification is it has to be fewer than 400 checks. DtC already excludes TSPDT. I'm not personally trying to come up with some "every title must be on exactly one list" requirement because that is not the intended purpose as I understand it.
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For the sake of a mere 13 title overlap, I think excluding those films in TSPDT 1000 is overkill. They'll cross over 400 checks over time anyway simply because so many folks are working on the TSPDT list.

As for DTC and 500<400, what's wrong with 20% overlap? You could do the math and compare all of the 1000+ "Best Ever" lists and calculate the overlap there, which I suspect will be even greater between any two given lists. I don't understand the impetus for such a suggestion.

Additionally, the way the DTC and <400 lists are constructed are rather different, and just because a film does well on one list doesn't mean it will do well on the other.
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I think one of the fun things about the list is that it is based on a (somewhat) arbitrary number and does not discriminate against any films that meet this requirement. I think it's a strength that the list can point out that even some well known films in terms of polls have not been seen by a lot of people yet.
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I find useful in prioritizing something to watch if I see it's on multiple lists that I care about.
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Agreed - and one of the main filters I use to prioritize content is how many official lists it appears on, so compartmentalizing things too much would make it more difficult to decide what to watch. Also, if we have a bunch of moving targets for eligibility based on other lists it would add a lot of work for our (volunteer) moderators.
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I don't think we need to provide more rules and shake things up. Films on multiple lists are going to be more likely to have their check count increased each year until eventually they are no longer under 400 checks and become ineligible for 500<400. It'd add more pain to some people to have to look at each film's eligiblity by what official list they're already in on top of the already required under 400 checks rule.

DtC and 500<400 both have different criteria and as already mentioned, one film can do well on one list and do miserably trying to get on the other. They both have different methods for what films make the final cut. A film being on 500<400 can actually hurt its chances for getting on DtC because the easiest way of getting on DtC is having a film seen by about 10 people who all love it, and if even three or four people watched and hated it then the film probably won't make the cut for that list. Meanwhile on the 500<400, a film isn't making it on the list if everyone ranks the film at a number like 400 or 500 or near 600 on their list (which would be the highest rating in DtC). On the 500<400, it takes at least a few people needing to rank the film a top 20 or top 50 or a bunch ranking it in the top 100. A film can be hated by mostly everyone and still make it to the 500<400 because the ranking method doesn't factor in haters. Both lists have strengths and faults to their method, so if a film somehow gets on both, then congrats to that film, a lot will fall off one of those lists eventually in a few years.
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If ever we do a change it would be changing the cutoff. Excluding films for being on lists is not on the table.
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PeacefulAnarchy wrote: April 5th, 2020, 4:25 pm If ever we do a change it would be changing the cutoff. Excluding films for being on lists is not on the table.
Yeah, I agree with you on that. Wouldn't want any films to be excluded. Purpose of the list is to promote films with <400 checks without any other factors being invovled.

I hope we keep it at 400. Maybe one day there will be a consensus on changing it but I think that is some time away/I'm not sure it will ever be necessary.
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Fergenaprido wrote: April 5th, 2020, 12:19 pm You could do the math and compare all of the 1000+ "Best Ever" lists and calculate the overlap there, which I suspect will be even greater between any two given lists.
I actually did that a few years ago. It's obviously outdated now, but, it was at about 50%. If you are curious and want the spreadsheet, let me know.
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weirdboy wrote: April 5th, 2020, 12:11 pm No, the only qualification is it has to be fewer than 400 checks. DtC already excludes TSPDT. I'm not personally trying to come up with some "every title must be on exactly one list" requirement because that is not the intended purpose as I understand it.
Totally agree.
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xianjiro wrote: April 5th, 2020, 9:11 am Have we ever considered excluding films from at least DtC, but possibly also TSPDT 1000 & 2000, from inclusion in the 500<400?
No.

The purpose of the list is to draw attention to good underseen films. If a film is on the TSPDT or DtC list, but still has under 400 checks, then it's underseen and needs the exposure.
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