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Official <400 Checks Challenge - August 2019

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Post by maxwelldeux » July 27th, 2019, 7:11 pm

<400 Checks Challenge


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Goal:
Watch as many films with fewer than 400 checks on ICM as you can!

Challenge runs 1 August 2019 - 31 August 2019.

Rules:
- Rewatches allowed.
- A feature film (at least 40 min) counts as one entry.
- A total of 60 minutes of short films count as one entry.
- To qualify for the challenge, you must list the number of checks the film has, including your check. 399 or fewer, including your check, qualifies. Films with 400+ checks are ineligible.
- If you're not an ICM user, add one (1) to the number of checks listed when you report here.
- For mini-series, individual episodes may count if the series page has <400 checks; report the check count for the overall series.
- No TV series this challenge.

Stats & Formatting:
- Title (year) #Checks is the preferred format (Include your check in the total)
- New posts are preferred over edited posts
- I'll be tracking years and checks with this challenge
- Link to ICM import: https://beta.icheckmovies.com/import/movies/

Side Challenge: The Ultra-Obscurity Challenge!
Goal: Watch films with the fewest checks possible - the person with the lowest average number of checks on films watched wins!

Scoring: I'm going to use an Adjusted Average; this to account for averages based on small sample sizes (e.g., should a person who watches only one film, but was the first person to check it, win?). Basically, everyone starts out with five watches with 400 checks each (this only applies to the scoring for the side challenge). Each time you watch a film, your average is recalculated based on those 5 watches with 400 checks, plus the check counts for whatever films you've watched for this challenge. Note that shorts and features will be treated equally for this side challenge.
Example MathShow
(Remember, 400 + 400 + 400 + 400 + 400 = 5*400 = 2000)

Example 1a: ABC has watched their first film, and was the 50th check on it.

(2000 + 50)/(5 + 1) = 2050/6 = 341.67

Example 1b: DEF has watched 20 films, and was the 325th check on all twenty of them.

[2000 + (325*20)]/(5 + 20) = 8500/25 = 340

So DEF is currently in the lead, but only just barely. ABC watching a more obscure film, but only one versus twenty for DEF.

Example 2a: ABC has watched a second film, and was the 10th check on it.

(2000 + 50 +10)/(5 + 2) = 2060/7 = 294.29

Example 2b: DEF has watched another 20 films, and was the 300th check on all twenty in this batch.

[2000 + (325*20) + (300*20)]/(5 + 20 + 20) = 14500/45 = 322.22

So ABC is now leading, despite only watching two films, because the films had very few checks. DEF just isn't watching obscure enough films to stay in the lead.
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Using a Bayesian Average, with m=400 and c=5.

Side Challenge LeaderboardShow
Adjusted Average Participant Average Checks First Checks Number of Watches
43.47 jdidaco 28.23 4 117
49.89 PUNQ 6.13 12 40
60.31 RogerTheMovieManiac88 42.04 30 93
71.96 albajos 63.33 25 190
73.43 ChrisReynolds 39.42 25 48
83.65 ororama 70.36 4 119
93.41 Cinepolis 3.24 3 17
98.16 allisoncm 52.42 5 33
101.15 frbrown 30.00 2 21
106.02 St. Gloede 69.28 0 40
107.63 maxwelldeux 85.81 6 67
110.81 3eyes 41.95 5 21
112.42 jeroeno 100.13 1 117
121.78 VincentPrice 76.90 1 31
125.24 72allinncallme 110.93 4 96
126.88 Ebbywebby 89.97 4 37
143.68 flavo5000 136.44 8 177
144.05 Mochard 58.73 0 15
145.30 joachimt 99.82 0 28
145.71 hurluberlu 120.78 2 51
156.50 zzzorf 92.42 3 19
160.88 vortexsurfer 103.95 0 21
166.50 cinephage 115.74 0 23
176.24 sol 155.13 0 53
184.53 mightysparks 141.44 0 25
189.69 sebby 145.88 0 24
203.80 Nathan Treadway 7.60 0 5
207.94 Onderhond 127.92 0 12
229.19 Tarris1 190.36 0 22
237.81 blocho 187.13 0 16
246.94 shugs 188.08 0 13
249.95 AB537 196.36 0 14
251.25 mathiasa 218.91 0 23
262.08 connordenney 163.57 0 7
266.62 wasabi 183.25 0 8
287.63 toromash 100.33 0 3
303.79 weirdboy 250.33 0 9
306.27 tazz_85 228.17 0 6
323.00 nimimerkillinen 246.00 0 5
326.60 Obgeoff 253.20 0 5
351.33 Daviddoes 108.00 0 1

Official Lists:
ICM Forum's 500<400
(But check eligibility - 40 films are currently ineligible. When you sort by checks (i.e., above link), everything above Salaam Cinema (1995) has at least 399 checks.)

Unofficial Lists:
1000<400 (2018 Update)
(But check eligibility - Everything from La Antena downwards is currently eligible.)

Participants:
Rank Participant Count
1 albajos 175
2 flavo5000 160
3 jeroeno 117
4 jdidaco 108
5 72allinncallme 93
6 RogerTheMovieManiac88 78
7 maxwelldeux 57
8 sol 53
9 hurluberlu 46
10 PUNQ 40
10 ororama 40
10 St. Gloede 40
13 VincentPrice 31
14 ChrisReynolds 30
14 allisoncm 30
16 joachimt 28
17 Ebbywebby 25
17 mightysparks 25
19 sebby 24
20 cinephage 23
21 Tarris1 22
21 mathiasa 22
23 3eyes 21
23 vortexsurfer 21
23 frbrown 21
26 Cinepolis 17
27 blocho 16
28 Mochard 15
28 zzzorf 15
30 AB537 14
31 shugs 13
32 Onderhond 12
33 weirdboy 7
33 connordenney 7
35 tazz_85 6
36 Obgeoff 5
36 nimimerkillinen 5
38 wasabi 4
38 Nathan Treadway 4
40 toromash 3
41 Daviddoes 1


Fun Stats:
Week 1: viewtopic.php?p=591199#p591199
Week 2: viewtopic.php?p=592941#p592941
Week 3: viewtopic.php?p=594057#p594057
Final: viewtopic.php?p=596054#p596054
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Post by 72aicm » July 27th, 2019, 7:33 pm

I’m game. Mostly docs and romance. Might try to see some movies on the 1000<400 list as well.
Thanks for hosting Max.


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Post by 72aicm » July 27th, 2019, 7:54 pm

What about movies that aren't on IMDb?

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Post by albajos » July 27th, 2019, 8:00 pm

72allinncallme wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 7:54 pm
What about movies that aren't on IMDb?
Then you add it on imdb

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Post by 72aicm » July 27th, 2019, 8:02 pm

albajos wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 8:00 pm
72allinncallme wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 7:54 pm
What about movies that aren't on IMDb?
Then you add it on imdb
I’m not going to bother with that if the movie sucked. :P

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Post by 3eyes » July 28th, 2019, 2:19 am

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Post by jeroeno » July 28th, 2019, 3:13 am

Well there are still 8 offical lists where I don't have a bronze award yet so my goal will be to get at least 4 new bronze awards.

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Post by sol » July 28th, 2019, 3:57 am

Another list to add the OP:

1000<400 (2018 Update)

Everything from La Antena downwards is currently eligible.
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Post by hurluberlu » July 28th, 2019, 10:22 am

Is this salad still fresh :mw_confused: :yucky: tehe
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Post by flavo5000 » July 31st, 2019, 7:51 pm

I may do this one for my main challenge next month. I tend to watch a lot of random stuff.

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Post by zuma » July 31st, 2019, 8:17 pm

jeroeno wrote:
July 28th, 2019, 3:13 am
Well there are still 8 offical lists where I don't have a bronze award yet so my goal will be to get at least 4 new bronze awards.
I find this hard to believe. Don't you mean there are still 8 official lists where you don't have a gold award yet? :P

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Post by jeroeno » August 1st, 2019, 4:07 am

zuma wrote:
July 31st, 2019, 8:17 pm
jeroeno wrote:
July 28th, 2019, 3:13 am
Well there are still 8 offical lists where I don't have a bronze award yet so my goal will be to get at least 4 new bronze awards.
I find this hard to believe. Don't you mean there are still 8 official lists where you don't have a gold award yet? :P
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Post by VincentPrice » August 1st, 2019, 5:39 am

1. Cry 'Havoc'-1943: 7/10 (43 checks)

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Post by sol » August 1st, 2019, 1:25 pm

It starts! In for second post even if I couldn't make first. :pinch:

1. In the Soup (1992) 355 checks

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As always, Steve Buscemi is great here as a struggling screenwriter, but this film belongs to Seymour Cassel as an eccentric film producer, prone to fits of laughter and with no sense of personal space or privacy - cradling Buscemi when he wakes in bed at one point. Cassel is, however, so lively and unpredictable that the film sags a bit when he is not on screen, but this is a pretty cool take on anxiety over selling work to someone you hardly know.
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Post by albajos » August 1st, 2019, 2:39 pm

maxwelldeux wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 7:11 pm
- No TV this challenge.
We are allowed to add stuff like Twilight Zone to the <400 nominations, shouldn't the same rule apply here?
Tales from the Crypt (1989) is at 385 cbecks now :p

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Post by Tarris1 » August 1st, 2019, 5:22 pm

1. Lazybones (1925) 8/10 - 114 checks

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Post by maxwelldeux » August 1st, 2019, 6:16 pm

albajos wrote:
August 1st, 2019, 2:39 pm
maxwelldeux wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 7:11 pm
- No TV this challenge.
We are allowed to add stuff like Twilight Zone to the <400 nominations, shouldn't the same rule apply here?
Tales from the Crypt (1989) is at 385 cbecks now :p
I see your point, I just really don't want to deal with TV this challenge.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » August 1st, 2019, 6:27 pm

I'm in an Oscar Nominee kick and most of what I'm watching is under 400 checks, so, sure.. I'm in.

1. The Woman of the Town (1943; 8 Checks)
2. Stop the World: I Want to Get Off (1966; 8 Checks) I really don't know what to think of this one... Peculiar and sort of creepy; one that I probably won't forget, yet, don't know if I loved it or not.
3. Small Wonders (1995; 10 Checks) Documentary on a NYC Violin instructor. Making a plea for Music in Education.... Doesn't really cover new ground, but, was enjoyable. The instructor was portrayed by Meryl Streep in a 1999 adaptation of this doc, Music of the Heart, directed by Wes Craven(?!)
4A. A Place in the Land (1998; 3 Checks; 32 Min.)
4B. The Collector of Bedford Street (2002; 9 Checks; 36 Mins)

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Post by sebby » August 1st, 2019, 8:31 pm

I assume no tv simply means no tv shows, not no tv movies (a la us go home)?

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Post by 72aicm » August 1st, 2019, 8:51 pm

1. The Beach Bum (2019) 328 checks
2. Don't Knock Yourself Out (2007) 2 checks
3. Kdo chce zabít Jessii? (1966) 122 checks
4. La casa del sorriso (1991) 58 checks

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Post by albajos » August 1st, 2019, 9:19 pm

01. America: Imagine the World Without Her (2014) USA 40 checks
Political propaganda
02. Faith of Our Fathers (2015) USA 6 checks
Religious propaganda from PureFlix. Not as extreme as God's Not Dead though
03. Twisted Pair (2018) USA 26 checks
Crazy man propaganda.
04. Supervized (2019) Ireland | UK 2 checks [double]
Retired superheroes
05. Everywhen (2013) Norway 26 checks
Amateur Sci-Fi.
06. I Am Here... Now (2009) USA 54 checks
Crazy man propaganda part deux.
07. Pass Thru (2016) USA 45 checks
Crazy man propaganda part maxwelldeux.
08. Farlig farvann (1995) Norway 24 checks
Norwegian thriller. We have only mad a handful of them, and this is basically the only one that works.
09. A House in the Hills (1993) USA | Luxembourg 7 checks [double]
Absurd thriller about a housesitter.
10. Carry on Cruising (1962) UK 170 checks [triple]
11. Carry on Cabby (1963) UK 153 checks [triple]
12. Carry On Jack (1964) UK 138 checks [triple]
Ocean Liner, Cabs and Jacks?

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Post by maxwelldeux » August 1st, 2019, 10:10 pm

sebby wrote:
August 1st, 2019, 8:31 pm
I assume no tv simply means no tv shows, not no tv movies (a la us go home)?
Correct - no TV series, but miniseries and tv-movies are all fine. I'll amend the OP.

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Post by 3eyes » August 1st, 2019, 10:16 pm

and some clarification here, please:

"- For mini-series, individual episodes may count if the series page has <400 checks; report the check count for the overall series."

Does this mean if there are 3 eps and the series has 100 ch overall, one would claim 3x100 checks or just 100 for whole series? (Thinking about the side challenge)
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Post by maxwelldeux » August 1st, 2019, 10:20 pm

3eyes wrote:
August 1st, 2019, 10:16 pm
and some clarification here, please:

"- For mini-series, individual episodes may count if the series page has <400 checks; report the check count for the overall series."

Does this mean if there are 3 eps and the series has 100 ch overall, one would claim 3x100 checks or just 100 for whole series? (Thinking about the side challenge)
It would be 3x100 checks - each individual episode counts, but you claim the check count for the entire series for each episode.

The logic is that people tend to check the overall miniseries page, but not the individual episodes.

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Post by 3eyes » August 1st, 2019, 10:21 pm

ok, thanks.
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Post by albajos » August 1st, 2019, 10:23 pm

Yes, I'll be watching Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit this month. Every episode have 1 check now, but the full mini series is 55, so I'll get 3x56 instead of 3x2

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Post by Mochard » August 2nd, 2019, 12:55 am

Quick question: Is it the number of checks before we check it or the number of checks after we check it? So if we watch a movie with 399 checks we can post that it has 400 checks? And if we watch a movie with 0 checks we say it has 1 check?

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Post by VincentPrice » August 2nd, 2019, 1:06 am

2. This Land Is Mine-1943: 8/10 (399 checks)
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1. Cry 'Havoc'-1943: 7/10 (43 checks)

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Post by frbrown » August 2nd, 2019, 1:18 am

1. The Intimate Stranger (1956) 61st check

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Post by Ebbywebby » August 2nd, 2019, 2:46 am

I'll play, but I'm not going to change my viewing habits for the challenge. But 80 of my last 100 checks are <400 anyway.

1. Eric Clapton: A Life in 12 Bars 2017 (37 checks)

Since it'll pass 400 checks within a day or two, let me just insert a random gripe about how crummy the new Tarantino film is.
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Post by Ebbywebby » August 2nd, 2019, 2:49 am

(Remember, 400 + 400 + 400 + 4000 + 400 = 5*400 = 2000)

Hey Maxwell, you goofed in your opening post.

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Post by Mochard » August 2nd, 2019, 3:10 am

1. Never Say Goodbye (1956) - 20 Checks

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1. Never Say Goodbye (1956) - 20 Checks

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Post by 3eyes » August 2nd, 2019, 3:17 am

1. Operation Oman (UK 14) - [double] - 1st check

I had this on my Amazon watchlist because my son has spent time in Oman. The operation in question (to keep the Commies out of Oman) happened during the Vietnam War period. I could have done with more analysis and less of the old geezers giving a play-by-play account of past battles.
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Post by VincentPrice » August 2nd, 2019, 3:25 am

3. The Green-Eyed Blonde-1957: 8/10 (2 checks)
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1. Cry 'Havoc'-1943: 7/10 (43 checks)
2. This Land Is Mine-1943: 8/10 (399 checks)

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Post by maxwelldeux » August 2nd, 2019, 5:11 am

Mochard wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 12:55 am
Quick question: Is it the number of checks before we check it or the number of checks after we check it? So if we watch a movie with 399 checks we can post that it has 400 checks? And if we watch a movie with 0 checks we say it has 1 check?
After you check it - so that movie you import to ICM will have 1 check (yours). :thumbsup:

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Post by maxwelldeux » August 2nd, 2019, 5:13 am

Ebbywebby wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 2:49 am
(Remember, 400 + 400 + 400 + 4000 + 400 = 5*400 = 2000)

Hey Maxwell, you goofed in your opening post.
It's new advanced math - quantum calculus or something. :P

Fixed.

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Post by maxwelldeux » August 2nd, 2019, 8:19 am

1. Whitney Cummings: Can I Touch It? (2019, 4 checks)
I've been hit-and-miss with her for a while - I love her roast material, but her stand-up specials have seamed pedestrian and a little sexist to me. Funny enough, but nothing particularly interesting. This one, though, is actually really good. By far, my favorite of hers. She talks about the "Me Too" movement in her comedy style and talks about how she's grown as a comedian. And she makes a sex robot of herself. And that's a big part of this comedy special. It's... interesting and different. Even if you've never been a fan of hers before, this one is worth checking out.

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Post by Cinepolis » August 2nd, 2019, 11:02 am

1. Headless (2014) - 2 Checks
Slow-moving and obviously low-budget, but nice acting and cinematography all around.

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Post by nimimerkillinen » August 2nd, 2019, 3:44 pm

1. The Black Pirate (1926) 355 - meh

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