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iCM Forum's Favourite Films of the Current Decade So Far; 2019 edition; Results

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Post by cinewest » July 11th, 2019, 2:45 pm

matthewscott8 wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 1:46 pm
fori wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 12:28 pm
Who landed the most checks on the complete list? Anybody get over 50%? Or 40%?
Given a lot of it is just Pedeamb's "I watched this" list, I wouldn't worry about completeness.

Next time we really should have a maximum number of submissions from each person.
200 max per person sounds reasonable to me.

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Post by Onderhond » July 11th, 2019, 2:53 pm

So you'll be the current decade fans at a disadvantage? I have more than 200 submissions and they're all 4/5* or higher.

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Post by matthewscott8 » July 11th, 2019, 2:53 pm

cinewest wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 2:45 pm
matthewscott8 wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 1:46 pm
fori wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 12:28 pm
Who landed the most checks on the complete list? Anybody get over 50%? Or 40%?
Given a lot of it is just Pedeamb's "I watched this" list, I wouldn't worry about completeness.

Next time we really should have a maximum number of submissions from each person.
200 max per person sounds reasonable to me.
agree

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » July 11th, 2019, 3:02 pm

cinewest wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 2:45 pm
matthewscott8 wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 1:46 pm
fori wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 12:28 pm
Who landed the most checks on the complete list? Anybody get over 50%? Or 40%?
Given a lot of it is just Pedeamb's "I watched this" list, I wouldn't worry about completeness.

Next time we really should have a maximum number of submissions from each person.
200 max per person sounds reasonable to me.
I had fewer than 200 films on my own list, but still, 200 films as a maximum seems a bit harsh (as in, too low of a total).
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Post by Mysterious Dude » July 11th, 2019, 3:03 pm

I like PdA's lists. I peruse them when compiling my own lists to see if I missed anything. Plus he gives my more obscure choices a better chance of having more than just one vote.

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Post by albajos » July 11th, 2019, 3:10 pm

As long as they are all recommandations I don't care how long your list is. But it's pointless to list everything you have seen.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » July 11th, 2019, 3:17 pm

albajos wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 3:10 pm
As long as they are all recommandations I don't care how long your list is. But it's pointless to list everything you have seen.
+1.

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#328

Post by cinephage » July 11th, 2019, 4:13 pm

matthewscott8 wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 2:53 pm
cinewest wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 2:45 pm
matthewscott8 wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 1:46 pm
Given a lot of it is just Pedeamb's "I watched this" list, I wouldn't worry about completeness.

Next time we really should have a maximum number of submissions from each person.
200 max per person sounds reasonable to me.
agree
I think 250 would be more adapted to a list of 250 movies...

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Post by cinephage » July 11th, 2019, 4:24 pm

Nathan Treadway wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 3:17 pm
albajos wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 3:10 pm
As long as they are all recommandations I don't care how long your list is. But it's pointless to list everything you have seen.
+1.
I agree, what bothers me with PdA's list is that such a list should reflect a choice, a decision of leaving out or keeping in the list movies. In his case, it doesn't, there is no choice, no selection. That makes the list much less interesting in my opinion, especially when you see how many movies PdA has seen, you would enjoy getting actual recommendations from him, rather than an endless list.

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Post by St. Gloede » July 11th, 2019, 4:51 pm

At the end of the end of the day how long a list is becomes irrelevant to the Top 250 as the points have diminishing value, but I can understand that people wanting to source the complete list for recommendations will be very disappointed (obviously, you can simply scroll from the top, source by year with ranking otherwise intact, etc. so it is easy to get around - but the cut off may not be clear).

Personally I prefer no restrictions on length, and prefer to leave all choices to the discretion of the voters.

However an interesting compromise no one has mentioned could be to have a cap based on a percentage of your vieweings, say 10%, 20% or 25%. That way those who have seen more gets a slight edge.

Alternatively an interprative "every film listed should be a personal favorite", or more moderately "be great", could also have an effect.

It all depends on what our aim/goal is.

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Post by Lammetje » July 11th, 2019, 4:55 pm

Setting the maximum at 200 doesn't make any sense. Just make it 250 for this poll, 500 for 500<400, 1001 for Favorite Movies etc.

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However an interesting compromise no one has mentioned could be to have a cap based on a percentage of your vieweings, say 10%, 20% or 25%. That way those who have seen more gets a slight edge.
This is an interesting idea. :)
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Post by Lakigigar » July 11th, 2019, 4:57 pm

joachimt wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 7:45 pm
I got curious about the numbers. Cinewest says people here don't watch (or at least vote for) enough FL movies. So what percentage of each list is English? And how does cinewest do in that aspect? The best way to calculate this is manually, because of movies with multiple languages, but using an advanced search on IMDb, we can get a rough idea. I used all userlists that were made on IMDb, filtered them on English language and calculated the percentage for each user. Here are the results of 47 users:

1. RogerTheMovieManiac88 (42%, 125 titles)
2. Mate_cosido (47%, 85 titles)
3. mjf314 (47%, 92 titles)
4. perceval (51%, 100 titles)
5. wasabi (53%, 75 titles)
6. XxXApathy420XxX (55%, 124 titles)
7. Dolwphin (56%, 32 titles)
8. hurluberlu (56%, 155 titles)
9. Traveller (59%, 75 titles)
10. viktor-vaudevillain (60%, 197 titles)
11. cinewest (62%, 100 titles)
12. Wonderful Rainbow (66%, 86 titles)
13. matthewscott8 (66%, 50 titles)
14. outdoorcats (67%, 250 titles)
15. jvv (67%, 60 titles)
16. Mysterious Dude (68%, 250 titles)
17. Smoover (68%, 195 titles)
18. klaus78 (71%, 100 titles)
19. Fergenaprido (71%, 400 titles)
20. OldAle1 (72%, 200 titles)
21. Perception de Ambiguity (73%, 1234 titles)
22. St. Gloede (73%, 95 titles)
23. Jimi Antiloop (75%, 336 titles)
24. albajos (75%, 199 titles)
25. allisoncm (76%, 259 titles)
26. Carmel1379 (77%, 312 titles)
27. bal3x (77%, 105 titles)
28. RedHawk10 (77%, 30 titles)
29. ChrisReynolds (77%, 176 titles)
30. Caracortada (78%, 142 titles)
31. Lonewolf2003 (79%, 231 titles)
32. joachimt (80%, 149 titles)
33. psychotronicbeatnik (80%, 60 titles)
34. brokenface (81%, 327 titles)
35. tommy_leazaq (81%, 110 titles)
36. jeff_v (82%, 180 titles)
37. GruesomeTwosome (83%, 120 titles)
38. Good_Will_Harding (83%, 238 titles)
39. Ebbywebby (85%, 164 titles)
40. filmbantha (86%, 145 titles)
41. Gordon_Gekko (87%, 200 titles)
42. India Istanbul (88%, 16 titles)
43. 1SO (89%, 116 titles)
44. Lammetje (90%, 50 titles)
45. PeacefulAnarchy (91%, 135 titles)
46. blocho (92%, 138 titles)
47. gromit82 (97%, 70 titles)
77%, 104 titles for myself.
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Post by joachimt » July 11th, 2019, 5:22 pm

cinephage wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 4:24 pm
Nathan Treadway wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 3:17 pm
albajos wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 3:10 pm
As long as they are all recommandations I don't care how long your list is. But it's pointless to list everything you have seen.
+1.
I agree, what bothers me with PdA's list is that such a list should reflect a choice, a decision of leaving out or keeping in the list movies. In his case, it doesn't, there is no choice, no selection. That makes the list much less interesting in my opinion, especially when you see how many movies PdA has seen, you would enjoy getting actual recommendations from him, rather than an endless list.
And what bothers me even more is that he never responded to any of the questions/remarks about this.
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Post by Ebbywebby » July 11th, 2019, 8:22 pm

fori wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 12:28 pm
Who landed the most checks on the complete list? Anybody get over 50%? Or 40%?
Not even 25%. I was at 699, but then I realized that I watched the "Fosse/Vernon" mini-series and hadn't checked it. So now I'm at a round 700. Woo.

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Post by beavis » July 11th, 2019, 8:52 pm

I think i'm at about 33%, but for me its always about the actual toplist, there is little true reccomendation value in the also mentioned....
So that's already a lot. And still so much to see...!!

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Post by mjf314 » July 11th, 2019, 10:37 pm

cinephage wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 4:24 pm
I agree, what bothers me with PdA's list is that such a list should reflect a choice, a decision of leaving out or keeping in the list movies. In his case, it doesn't, there is no choice, no selection. That makes the list much less interesting in my opinion, especially when you see how many movies PdA has seen, you would enjoy getting actual recommendations from him, rather than an endless list.
It's a ranked list, so you can consider the films near the top to be his actual recommendations (although I don't know how accurate the ranking is).

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Post by Ebbywebby » July 11th, 2019, 11:19 pm

mjf314 wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 10:37 pm
cinephage wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 4:24 pm
I agree, what bothers me with PdA's list is that such a list should reflect a choice, a decision of leaving out or keeping in the list movies. In his case, it doesn't, there is no choice, no selection. That makes the list much less interesting in my opinion, especially when you see how many movies PdA has seen, you would enjoy getting actual recommendations from him, rather than an endless list.
It's a ranked list, so you can consider the films near the top to be his actual recommendations (although I don't know how accurate the ranking is).
Totally agree with cinephage. I think PdA's list is rude and lazy. Especially because it does so much damage to the "complete" poll results.

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Post by mjf314 » July 12th, 2019, 12:03 am

Ebbywebby wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 11:19 pm
mjf314 wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 10:37 pm
cinephage wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 4:24 pm
I agree, what bothers me with PdA's list is that such a list should reflect a choice, a decision of leaving out or keeping in the list movies. In his case, it doesn't, there is no choice, no selection. That makes the list much less interesting in my opinion, especially when you see how many movies PdA has seen, you would enjoy getting actual recommendations from him, rather than an endless list.
It's a ranked list, so you can consider the films near the top to be his actual recommendations (although I don't know how accurate the ranking is).
Totally agree with cinephage. I think PdA's list is rude and lazy. Especially because it does so much damage to the "complete" poll results.
If PdA had submitted a top 250 instead of a top 1234, it would barely make a difference, because films outside his top 250 received very few points.

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Post by Ebbywebby » July 12th, 2019, 12:42 am

But his "extra" picks show up in the complete poll results.

(I also resent him not trimming his "<400" list to get rid of the >400 titles.)

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Post by mjf314 » July 12th, 2019, 12:59 am

Ebbywebby wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 12:42 am
But his "extra" picks show up in the complete poll results.

(I also resent him not trimming his "<400" list to get rid of the >400 titles.)
Why not remove them and make your own iCM list?

In the 500<400 poll, the >400 titles are removed automatically from each individual list, so it has no effect on the results.

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Post by Ebbywebby » July 12th, 2019, 1:29 am

mjf314 wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 12:59 am

In the 500<400 poll, the >400 titles are removed automatically from each individual list, so it has no effect on the results.
Yes, but with so many >400 films, it means his sloppy list is useless for anyone else to "learn" from. And it just seems rude to burden the pollster with all that extra work of sorting.

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Post by cinewest » July 12th, 2019, 3:09 am

St. Gloede wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 4:51 pm
At the end of the end of the day how long a list is becomes irrelevant to the Top 250 as the points have diminishing value, but I can understand that people wanting to source the complete list for recommendations will be very disappointed (obviously, you can simply scroll from the top, source by year with ranking otherwise intact, etc. so it is easy to get around - but the cut off may not be clear).

Personally I prefer no restrictions on length, and prefer to leave all choices to the discretion of the voters.

However an interesting compromise no one has mentioned could be to have a cap based on a percentage of your vieweings, say 10%, 20% or 25%. That way those who have seen more gets a slight edge.

Alternatively an interprative "every film listed should be a personal favorite", or more moderately "be great", could also have an effect.

It all depends on what our aim/goal is.
I don’t like the “cap” idea based on percentage of percentage of viewings.

I am very selective about what I watch at the outset and this idea would essentially favor those who are less so.

While I don’t watch as many films as some here (probably less than 100 per year), most of what I see is recommendable, and I took considerable time to whittle down my list to 100 total, that represented the most memorable for me,
If we are talking about the films that really stood out as “essential viewing”, I could probably get down to 60 or so, but 100 seemed like a good cut off for me, personally, if only because it involved some real reflection, as well as some tough love.

I suggested 200 as a hard cap because of the yearly top 20’s, but think at top 250 that mirrors the list itself is also a good number.
If this list is supposed to be about “the best,” or “personal favorites,” those words kind of lose their meaning when the lists are too long and there is not enough determination or discrimination involved in the list making.

That said, I don’t see it as a huge issue, as, like you said, films down the list have diminishing weight in regards to their impact, and people can simply choose to ignore films towards the bottom of the overall list where an individual cutoff can be determined.

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Post by matthewscott8 » July 12th, 2019, 7:20 am

Agree that the problem with the cap idea is the selective vs the non selective viewer. I would take umbrage to people accruing cap via the low rating challenge for example lol. Plus, as we know, faking ratings is a thing and this is a push factor for it. Also quantity watcher vs quality watcher. The guy who watches a film on 2x speed with his cornflakes in the morning whilst he sends a few emails and is still going at dusk often isn't having a particularly valid insight into the movies.

The main aim is to avoid having movies on the complete list that aren't actually recommended by anyone. Also what is anyone's conviction level behind their 300th placed 2010s film? How much of their heart does that movie fill lol.

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Post by Coryn » July 12th, 2019, 7:33 am

It's difficult to find a cutoff but when making up lists I separate the movies into grades I think they fit into. Grade 4 for example is not making my list because I think it is below the average of the films I have not seen yet thus giving it points would not be fair.
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Post by albajos » July 12th, 2019, 7:49 am

matthewscott8 wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 7:20 am
The main aim is to avoid having movies on the complete list that aren't actually recommended by anyone. Also what is anyone's conviction level behind their 300th placed 2010s film? How much of their heart does that movie fill lol.
I saw 500 2010s movies this year. 40 of those ended up in this list. All rated 8, 9 or 10 which are high ratings for me. So my total length of 200 when I basically have seen 2000 this decade is quite normal, I would think.

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Post by Onderhond » July 12th, 2019, 7:54 am

matthewscott8 wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 7:20 am
Also what is anyone's conviction level behind their 300th placed 2010s film? How much of their heart does that movie fill lol.
Can't vouch for position 300, but I'm still pretty passionate about #203 on my list, so again it's hard to draw hard lines there.

Every since I started blogging and forced myself to write full reviews for 4* (and higher) rated films, it's been a lot easier to separate the films I like from the films I love. About 3~4 hours of effort tends to have that effect :D

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Post by cinephage » July 12th, 2019, 10:52 am

albajos wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 7:49 am
matthewscott8 wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 7:20 am
The main aim is to avoid having movies on the complete list that aren't actually recommended by anyone. Also what is anyone's conviction level behind their 300th placed 2010s film? How much of their heart does that movie fill lol.
I saw 500 2010s movies this year. 40 of those ended up in this list. All rated 8, 9 or 10 which are high ratings for me. So my total length of 200 when I basically have seen 2000 this decade is quite normal, I would think.
I agree, I've been watching an average of 232 movies of the current decade every year since 2010. Choosing favorites is only choosing 25 movies every year, that leaves room for solid recommendations...

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » July 12th, 2019, 11:57 am

I personally no problems with the complete lists as they are, since it's clear to me that the recommendation value is diminishing and almost non-existent in the lower levels of the list. Cause that low in the list they are almost all 1 vote movies. Looking that far down in the list for recoms, you're better of looking at individual lists for recoms. The reason for the Complete List to me is just simply what it implies; being a complete listing of every movie voted for. So people can see what rank every movie they voted for ended up f.e..

I'm surely against setting a low cap, cause I think a fan of a decade/genre/country has to be able to list all their recommendations. So if there would be a cap I would be for a cap that's at least the list length, but preferable way higher (2x the list length f.e.). Since the problem is mostly PdA’s list a high cap could already solve for a large part the problem of him littering the complete list (if you see that as a problem).

A percentage cap is unpractical because it would be very hard to check and enforce that.

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Post by St. Gloede » July 12th, 2019, 1:41 pm

cinewest wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 3:09 am
St. Gloede wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 4:51 pm
At the end of the end of the day how long a list is becomes irrelevant to the Top 250 as the points have diminishing value, but I can understand that people wanting to source the complete list for recommendations will be very disappointed (obviously, you can simply scroll from the top, source by year with ranking otherwise intact, etc. so it is easy to get around - but the cut off may not be clear).

Personally I prefer no restrictions on length, and prefer to leave all choices to the discretion of the voters.

However an interesting compromise no one has mentioned could be to have a cap based on a percentage of your vieweings, say 10%, 20% or 25%. That way those who have seen more gets a slight edge.

Alternatively an interprative "every film listed should be a personal favorite", or more moderately "be great", could also have an effect.

It all depends on what our aim/goal is.
I don’t like the “cap” idea based on percentage of percentage of viewings.

I am very selective about what I watch at the outset and this idea would essentially favor those who are less so.

While I don’t watch as many films as some here (probably less than 100 per year), most of what I see is recommendable, and I took considerable time to whittle down my list to 100 total, that represented the most memorable for me,
If we are talking about the films that really stood out as “essential viewing”, I could probably get down to 60 or so, but 100 seemed like a good cut off for me, personally, if only because it involved some real reflection, as well as some tough love.

I suggested 200 as a hard cap because of the yearly top 20’s, but think at top 250 that mirrors the list itself is also a good number.
If this list is supposed to be about “the best,” or “personal favorites,” those words kind of lose their meaning when the lists are too long and there is not enough determination or discrimination involved in the list making.

That said, I don’t see it as a huge issue, as, like you said, films down the list have diminishing weight in regards to their impact, and people can simply choose to ignore films towards the bottom of the overall list where an individual cutoff can be determined.
Solid logic!

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Post by cinewest » July 15th, 2019, 2:15 pm

I didn't see any stats about the directors who are represented multiple times, so I've provided a list of those who cracked the top 125 on more than one occasion, here.


3- Nicolas Winding Refn (#125- Only God Forgives, #94- The Neon Demon, #9- Drive)- Not a big fan. Kind of like arthouse porn.

2- Tarantino (#120- The Hateful Eight, # Django Unchained)- Couldn't finish either of these. Some times trash is just trash, no matter how dressed up the banter is.

2- Kenneth Lonegran (#116- Margaret, #29- Manchester By The Sea)

2- Joshua Oppenheimer (#111- The Look of Silence, #5- The Act of Killing)- One of several brave and interesting documentarians this decade.

3- Wes Anderson (#109- Isle of Dogs, #18- Moonrise Kingdom, #2- The Grand Budapest Hotel)

5- Denis Villenneuve (#107- Enemy, #80- Blade Runner 2049, #77- Prisoners, #64 Incendies, #34- Arrival)- Is the love, here, just a little bit overboard? And did I miss Sicario?

2- Chang-dong Lee (#101- Poetry, #67- Burning)- My own favorite inclusion among this group

3- Hirokazu Koreeda (#100-Shoplifters, #93- Umimachi Diary, #89- Like Father, Like Son)- his spot is a testament to the high appraisal here for "naturalist cinema."

2- Don Hertzfeldt (#97- World of Tomorrow, #44- It's Such a Beautiful Day)

3- Christopher Nolan (#87- Dunkirk, #32- Interstellar, #15- Inception)

2- Martin Scorsese (#130- Hugo, #84-Shutter Island, #40 The Wolf of Wall Street)- All style, but has had trouble with substance for years. Makes good pulp, though.

2- Aronovsky (#82 Mother, #16- Black Swan)- Starting to seem more and more like Scorsese to me, though unlike Marty, he gives juicy roles to women.

2- Bi Gan (#73- LDJIN, #68- Kaili Blues)- By far the strangest inclusion.

3- Paul Thomas Anderson (#71- Inherent Vice, #26- Phantom Thread, #24- The Master)

2- Yorgos Lanthimos (#63- The Lobster, #21- The Favourite)- The latest foreign language filmmaker to have "made it" by switching to English.

2- David Fincher (#53- Gone Girl, #13 The Social Network)-

2- Richard Linklater (#47- Before Midnight, #10-Boyhood)

2- Inarritu (#38- The Revenant, #11- Birdman)- Have always liked him, but have often felt not completely fulfilled, as with The Revenant, which was a visual feast with a terrible, and derivative script.

2- Pixar (#36 Inside Out, #30- Toy Story 3)

2- Cuaron (#33- Gravity, #31- Roma)

2- Damien Chazelle ( #23- La La Land, #14 Whiplash)- love new voices, but this guy just isn't that good, yet.


That's 50 films by 21 directors (all men, mostly working in English) among the top 125. I voted for about 25% of these, but think that most are getting way too much love compared to many other filmmakers this past decade

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Post by St. Gloede » July 15th, 2019, 5:41 pm

cinewest wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 10:06 pm
As for stellar years: 2011 was an amazing one for me, especially for foreign films, but also for EL ones.
Meant to ask: What are your favorite 2011 films, my list is almost exclusively English language. I did however just watch Tomboy, which will make my list - and I'm going through my watchlist for the early 2010s.

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Post by Onderhond » July 15th, 2019, 6:19 pm

For what it is worth, my high marks for 2011 (no EL films) :

5.0* - Honey PuPu (Taiwan, urban fantasy)
4.5* - Beast (euro arthouse horror)
4.5* - 1778 Stories of Me and My Wife (fantasy drama)
4.5* - Blowfish (arthouse drama ala Japonaise)
4.5* - Himizu (Sono drama)
4.5* - Kotoko (Tsukamoto drama)
4.5* - Lee's Adventure (unique Chinese urban fantasy)
4.5* - Monsters Club (uhh, weird but interesting)
4.5* - Ninja Kids!!! (weird Miike for kids)
4.5* - Smuggler (supercool genre flick)
4.5* - Bunny Drop (Sabu is king, Koreeda-like drama)
4.5* - Starry Starry Night (more unique Taiwanese urban fantasy)

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Post by hurluberlu » July 15th, 2019, 6:43 pm

my 2011 NoEL top

Faust ( Aleksandr Sokurov )
Mlyn i krzyz ( Lech Majewski )
Play ( Ruben Östlund )
Habemus Papam ( Nanni Moretti )
La folie Almayer ( Chantal Akerman )
L'exercice de l'État ( Pierre Schoeller )
Rundskop ( Michaël R. Roskam )
Jodaeiye Nader az Simin ( Asghar Farhadi )
Tomboy ( Céline Sciamma )
Le tableau ( Jean-François Laguionie )
Pater ( Alain Cavalier )
Türk Pasaportu ( Burak Arliel )
Io sono Li ( Andrea Segre )
Wo 11 ( Xiaoshuai Wang )
L'ordre et la morale ( Mathieu Kassovitz )
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Post by St. Gloede » July 15th, 2019, 10:51 pm

Not seen any of your picks Onderhond, but thanks for reminding me of Himizu, I need to watch it soon. Had a look at the others, and bookmarked a few. Starry Starry Night was already on my watchlist - but not quite at the top.

Le tableau looks beautiful, hurluberlu (was not on my radar until now). The Mill & The Cross was already high on my list. Seen Play, A Separation and now also Tomboy - all great.

Just finished The Kid with the Bike, which was on neither of your list, also a great film, almost made the cut.

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Post by St. Gloede » July 15th, 2019, 11:01 pm

Aiming to watch 10 FL films from the early 10s this month. Seen:

Le quattro volte - 6.5-7/10
Tomboy - 9/10
The Kid with a Bike - 8.5/10

Possible contenders:

Himizu
L'Apollonide
No
In a Better World
Le tableau
Polisse
Found Memories
The Mill & The Cross

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Post by cinewest » July 16th, 2019, 3:57 am

St. Gloede wrote:
July 15th, 2019, 5:41 pm
cinewest wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 10:06 pm
As for stellar years: 2011 was an amazing one for me, especially for foreign films, but also for EL ones.
Meant to ask: What are your favorite 2011 films, my list is almost exclusively English language. I did however just watch Tomboy, which will make my list - and I'm going through my watchlist for the early 2010s.
Most of my top FL films from 2011 made the list above, but I agree that it was also a good year for EL films:

Once Upon A Time in Anatolia
The Turin Horse
Melancholia (mixed language?)
A Separation
Elena
Faust
Oslo 31, August
Pina (mixed lang?)- absolutely spectacular in 3-D
Miss Bala
Whore's Glory (mixed Lang?)
La Piel Que Habito
Rundskop
Wo 11 (maybe living in China right now gives this one a boost)
Atmen
L'Apollonide

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Post by Onderhond » July 16th, 2019, 7:24 am

St. Gloede wrote:
July 15th, 2019, 10:51 pm
Had a look at the others, and bookmarked a few. Starry Starry Night was already on my watchlist - but not quite at the top.
I'm not one to deter people from watching Starry, Starry Night (that's my pull quote on the poster after all!), but if you want to give Tom Lin a chance I think Zinnia Flower might be the better start. Strong focus on drama, whereas Starry Starry Night has stronger fantasy elements.

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Post by cinephage » July 16th, 2019, 8:33 am

my 2011 NoEL top 10 :

A Separation (Asgar Farhadi) - Farhadi's masterpiece, no introduction needed
L'apollonide (Bertrand Bonello) - A strong piece on life in a XIXth century whorehouse, shot in lavish and dreamlike style
The Turin Horse (Bela Tarr) - The Apocalypse shot in the most minimalist possible way
Mistérios de Lisboa (Raoul Ruiz) - trying to recreate the XIXth century episodic novel with a wonderful direction
Tou ze (Ann Hui) - A reflexion on getting old, shot in the Hong Kong cinema industry, as well as in a retirement home
L'exercice de l'etat (Pierre Schoeller) - A political fable with great acting by Olivier Gourmet
Long men fei jia (Tsui Hark) - Hark remakes one of his earlier pieces, in 3D and with CG. His approach to this technology is enthralling...
O Homem do Futuro (Cláudio Torres) - A bresilian comedy about time travel. A lot of fun.
Poo-reun so-geum / Hindsight (Hyun-seung Lee) - A stylized crime movie on an assassin and a retired mob boss...
Les géants (Bouli Lanners) - Two kids, brothers, are mostly left to themselves during the summer vacations.

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Post by Fergenaprido » July 16th, 2019, 8:44 am

Aside from those already mentioned, I would recommend Café de Flore, Turn Me On Dammit, The Skin I Live In, and Monsieur Lazhar from 2011.
If you're doing early 2010s, then I'd include Incendies, Peepli Live, Jitters, and R from 2010, and Broken Circle Breakdown, The Hunt, Wadjda, and War Witch for 2012.

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Post by joachimt » July 16th, 2019, 8:57 am

Fergenaprido wrote:
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I would recommend Café de Flore
Watched this yesterday and I agree. Beautiful movie.
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