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Post by allisoncm » January 29th, 2018, 8:29 pm

insomnia on Jan 29 2018, 02:11:01 AM wrote:Very happy to see making lists is finally available to regular users.

Just made a filmography list for Assayas to celebrate: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/oliv ... /insomnia/
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Post by 3eyes » January 29th, 2018, 8:31 pm

monk-time on Jan 29 2018, 01:24:34 PM wrote:The best way to solve this issue IMO is to allow moderators to promote legimitate non-personal (sourced) lists to a separate category/tab instead of punishing truly personal lists.
except that would punish folks who do their own research. We have enough trouble finding qualified candidates for new lists because of the source requirement.

Otherwise, I agree. I've long been advocating some way of featuring substantive non-official lists, but no luck so far.
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Post by insomnia » January 29th, 2018, 8:36 pm

You could make personal lists private by default, then people will have to opt into going public. You'd probably cut out quite a few trivial ones like that.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » January 29th, 2018, 8:47 pm

monk-time on Jan 29 2018, 01:24:34 PM wrote:The best way to solve this issue IMO is to allow moderators to promote legimitate non-personal (sourced) lists to a separate category/tab instead of punishing truly personal lists.
I agree. It'd be good to have various levels of curated lists, where the top is official lists, the second outside sourced interesting lists, a third for personal or semi-personal lists that nonetheless strive for some wider perspective (forum lists, compilation of sources lists, etc), another for filmography type lists and another for personal lists. I wouldn't mind doing the work of sorting lists, but the site would need to have a way to filter and display these coherently.

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Post by maxwelldeux » January 29th, 2018, 9:18 pm

This is why I'm sad the Groups are going away. Used properly, the Groups area was a great place to store lists with themes. I'm a member of the iCheckSeries group, which has a great collection of episode lists for a bunch of TV series around the world. Other groups for list themes (e.g., Actor Filmographies, Director Filmographies, ICM Forum lists) would be awesome.

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Post by brokenface » January 29th, 2018, 10:37 pm

PeacefulAnarchy on Jan 29 2018, 01:47:20 PM wrote:
monk-time on Jan 29 2018, 01:24:34 PM wrote:The best way to solve this issue IMO is to allow moderators to promote legimitate non-personal (sourced) lists to a separate category/tab instead of punishing truly personal lists.
I agree. It'd be good to have various levels of curated lists, where the top is official lists, the second outside sourced interesting lists, a third for personal or semi-personal lists that nonetheless strive for some wider perspective (forum lists, compilation of sources lists, etc), another for filmography type lists and another for personal lists. I wouldn't mind doing the work of sorting lists, but the site would need to have a way to filter and display these coherently.
Great news about the lists. I've been stuck at 25 as I only do the €1 subscription (cheaped out on the Pro one - but really there is no point to that existing now, the only worthwhile benefit to that over Basic before was unlimited lists)

Definitely agree that it could do with some curation like this. There's a bit of a problem with redundancy and outdated lists on the site, which'll only get worse. e.g. there's often multiple filmographies for major directors and actors where the only difference is how up-to-date they are. There's no point having outdated ones remain public (there may be exceptions in some cases to have multiple filmographies if they have different criteria, say a complete one with all shorts & TV work vs one with feature films only)

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Post by insomnia » February 8th, 2018, 9:25 am

Hey PeacefulAnarchy, not sure if this is the right thread, but can you update your Frederick Wiseman filmography list?

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/fred ... ulanarchy/

Last one on there is currently At Berkeley (2013).

He's made a couple since:

National Gallery (2014)
In Jackson Heights (2015)
Ex Libris – The New York Public Library (2017)

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 8th, 2018, 5:14 pm

Fixed those, thanks.
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Post by Ebbywebby » February 28th, 2018, 10:41 pm

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/chao ... ebbywebby/

I labored to input a major list of surreal/experimental/weird films (1107 titles), transported from Letterboxd...though it's only half as long as it could be (see introductory explanation).

I've also added lists of Harold Lloyd, Andy Warhol and Jeff Keen films.

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Post by frbrown » April 9th, 2018, 3:22 pm

A series of posts where various people pick their top 100 Canadian films
http://torontofilmreview.blogspot.ca/se ... an%20Films
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Post by Fergenaprido » April 11th, 2018, 1:28 pm

frbrown on Apr 9 2018, 09:22:05 AM wrote:A series of posts where various people pick their top 100 Canadian films
http://torontofilmreview.blogspot.ca/se ... an%20Films
This is awesome! Great find frbrown. I can add all of these individual lists to icm, and I can create a compilation list as well.

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Post by Panunzio » April 11th, 2018, 2:35 pm

Fergenaprido on Apr 11 2018, 07:28:58 AM wrote:
frbrown on Apr 9 2018, 09:22:05 AM wrote:A series of posts where various people pick their top 100 Canadian films
http://torontofilmreview.blogspot.ca/se ... an%20Films
This is awesome! Great find frbrown. I can add all of these individual lists to icm, and I can create a compilation list as well.
A compilation list would probably be the most interesting/useful. Maybe something similar to the way iCM forum polls are scored (seeing as some are organised according to a ranking, some chronologically, some thematically, etc.).

It's a big undertaking to ad it all, so I'd be happy to help you out if you like?

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Post by Gershwin » April 11th, 2018, 6:33 pm

I just added the list with winners of the International Documentary Film Festival Amsterdam (IDFA) to iCM. I've only seen a few of those, but it looks like a very interesting list to me.
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Post by Angel Glez » May 8th, 2018, 4:55 pm

10 Best African Films of All Time

The 15th annual Tarifa-Tangiers African Film Festival (FCAT) and magazine Fotogramas have added to its repertoire by commissioning a group of 10 well-respected critics and authorities on film to vote on, what they believe, are the best African films in the history of cinema. The organization calls the list "the first classification based on expert opinions of a cinematography which has gradually gained a foothold in Spain in recent years."

The film critics who created the list come from a number of backgrounds and countries and include journalists, directors, professors and more.


Ballots are available. Only 10 jurors, though. :(

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Post by zhangalan » May 11th, 2018, 10:14 am

Angel Glez on May 8 2018, 10:55:37 AM wrote:10 Best African Films of All Time

The 15th annual Tarifa-Tangiers African Film Festival (FCAT) and magazine Fotogramas have added to its repertoire by commissioning a group of 10 well-respected critics and authorities on film to vote on, what they believe, are the best African films in the history of cinema. The organization calls the list "the first classification based on expert opinions of a cinematography which has gradually gained a foothold in Spain in recent years."

The film critics who created the list come from a number of backgrounds and countries and include journalists, directors, professors and more.


Ballots are available. Only 10 jurors, though. :(
Great! Finally there is a critic poll for African films.
I hope there will be a larger scale one in the future.

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Post by zhangalan » May 14th, 2018, 1:02 am

I just find out that there is a best of the 70s list by El Amante in 2005.
Does anyone have the original source?

https://web.archive.org/web/20070211045 ... chive.html

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Post by Angel Glez » May 14th, 2018, 4:23 pm

zhangalan on May 13 2018, 07:02:23 PM wrote:I just find out that there is a best of the 70s list by El Amante in 2005.
Does anyone have the original source?

https://web.archive.org/web/20070211045 ... chive.html
Yep, the magazine is available. I've got the individual ballots too.

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Nothing particularly interesting imho.

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Post by Gershwin » May 14th, 2018, 7:26 pm

I made the African top 10 into an iCM list.
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Post by zhangalan » May 14th, 2018, 10:13 pm

Angel Glez on May 14 2018, 10:23:11 AM wrote:
zhangalan on May 13 2018, 07:02:23 PM wrote:I just find out that there is a best of the 70s list by El Amante in 2005.
Does anyone have the original source?

https://web.archive.org/web/20070211045 ... chive.html
Yep, the magazine is available. I've got the individual ballots too.

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Nothing particularly interesting imho.
Thanks, Angel.

Do you know if they also have polls for other decades?
I think there are too many lists for 90s and 21st century, while other decades tend to be overlooked.

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Post by Gershwin » May 15th, 2018, 12:00 pm

I just added Danish film magazine Soundvenue's 50 Best Foreign Films of the 21st Century to iCM.

It's not a very original list - far from original, I have to admit - but it was created by polling 115 critics and people from the movie industry, so the results are quite significant.
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Post by Angel Glez » May 15th, 2018, 12:55 pm

zhangalan on May 14 2018, 04:13:00 PM wrote:Do you know if they also have polls for other decades?
I think there are too many lists for 90s and 21st century, while other decades tend to be overlooked.
Not that I know of.

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Post by Gershwin » May 15th, 2018, 3:39 pm

Gershwin on May 14 2018, 01:26:49 PM wrote:I made the African top 10 into an iCM list.
Gershwin on May 15 2018, 06:00:07 AM wrote:I just added Danish film magazine Soundvenue's 50 Best Foreign Films of the 21st Century to iCM.

It's not a very original list - far from original, I have to admit - but it was created by polling 115 critics and people from the movie industry, so the results are quite significant.
By the way, why are people actively disliking these lists, while they come from decent polls? :shrug:
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Post by Gershwin » May 16th, 2018, 1:33 pm

I've started adding LaCinetek directors' lists again, and I stumbled upon a film that is not on IMDb: Life/Expectancy (1999, Shellie Fleming). But worse, I almost can't find anything about the director.

Does somebody know how to add this to IMDb, when there are almost no sources? Help, or even adding it to IMDb, would be much appreciated.
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Post by Armoreska » May 16th, 2018, 3:59 pm

I don't see many dislikes, whatchutalkinbout? Not many likes either, sure
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viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
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Post by Gershwin » May 16th, 2018, 5:00 pm

Armoreska on May 16 2018, 09:59:52 AM wrote:I don't see many dislikes, whatchutalkinbout? Not many likes either, sure
I know, and likes and dislikes assemble within time. That's not the issue. It's more that somebody decided to dislike these lists immediately after they were added. Seems strange to me, because they're solid lists.
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Post by blueboybob » May 16th, 2018, 5:02 pm

Am I the only maniac who wants the IMDB Bottom 100 to be an official list?

https://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom

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Post by maxwelldeux » May 16th, 2018, 5:28 pm

blueboybob on May 16 2018, 11:02:11 AM wrote:Am I the only maniac who wants the IMDB Bottom 100 to be an official list?

https://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom
You're not the only one - I'd love for a few more things like that to be official. That list, Razzies, etc. would be fun, I think.

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Post by blueboybob » May 16th, 2018, 6:00 pm

Yes please. Give me Razzie "Worst Picture"

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Post by OldAle1 » May 16th, 2018, 6:16 pm

blueboybob on May 16 2018, 11:02:11 AM wrote:Am I the only maniac who wants the IMDB Bottom 100 to be an official list?

https://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom
I'd like a better or different bad movies list, but from IMDb? No thanks, same problem as the Top 250 and other lists from that site, i.e over half of the films coming from the current century, block voting, etc.
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Post by brokenface » May 16th, 2018, 8:19 pm

Gershwin on May 16 2018, 11:00:20 AM wrote:
Armoreska on May 16 2018, 09:59:52 AM wrote:I don't see many dislikes, whatchutalkinbout? Not many likes either, sure
I know, and likes and dislikes assemble within time. That's not the issue. It's more that somebody decided to dislike these lists immediately after they were added. Seems strange to me, because they're solid lists.
There's clearly a few weirdos on ICM who abuse the dislike button. Best to just ignore, they're probably disliking most/all personal lists so it's meaningless (probably the function should be removed for lists 'cause it doesn't really add much to the site)

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Post by Armoreska » May 17th, 2018, 8:38 am

It's not hurting anyone, but can be used to mark down the lists you don't like.
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Post by Gershwin » May 17th, 2018, 2:31 pm

brokenface on May 16 2018, 02:19:01 PM wrote:
Gershwin on May 16 2018, 11:00:20 AM wrote:
Armoreska on May 16 2018, 09:59:52 AM wrote:I don't see many dislikes, whatchutalkinbout? Not many likes either, sure
I know, and likes and dislikes assemble within time. That's not the issue. It's more that somebody decided to dislike these lists immediately after they were added. Seems strange to me, because they're solid lists.
There's clearly a few weirdos on ICM who abuse the dislike button. Best to just ignore, they're probably disliking most/all personal lists so it's meaningless (probably the function should be removed for lists 'cause it doesn't really add much to the site)
Yeah, well, you're probably right. I'll keep adding lists anyhow. :)

A few of the Cinetek lists I added today and yesterday:

- Wim Wenders' 50 favourite films
- Agnès Varda's 50 favourite films
- John Woo's 48 favourite films
- Park Chan-wook's 55 favourite films
- Todd Haynes' 50 favourite films
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Post by beavis » May 17th, 2018, 2:41 pm

do you think they are material to make into official lists?

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Post by OldAle1 » May 17th, 2018, 2:46 pm

Gershwin on May 17 2018, 08:31:34 AM wrote:
brokenface on May 16 2018, 02:19:01 PM wrote:
Gershwin on May 16 2018, 11:00:20 AM wrote:I know, and likes and dislikes assemble within time. That's not the issue. It's more that somebody decided to dislike these lists immediately after they were added. Seems strange to me, because they're solid lists.
There's clearly a few weirdos on ICM who abuse the dislike button. Best to just ignore, they're probably disliking most/all personal lists so it's meaningless (probably the function should be removed for lists 'cause it doesn't really add much to the site)
Yeah, well, you're probably right. I'll keep adding lists anyhow. :)

A few of the Cinetek lists I added today and yesterday:

- Wim Wenders' 50 favourite films
- Agnès Varda's 50 favourite films
- John Woo's 48 favourite films
- Park Chan-wook's 55 favourite films
- Todd Haynes' 50 favourite films
Thanks for those, all pretty cool, even if none of the directors fills their lists with obscurities and weird stuff - relatively "safe" choices for the most part. Interesting that Woo's list contains very few Asian films - and none from China/HK/Taiwan, and Park's list, while a little more Asia-focused, only has one Korean film, while the other three directors are at least a little focused on their own nationalities. Probably like Varda's list the most myself - very happy to see Sweetie there, a film that still needs more respect IMO.
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Post by Gershwin » May 17th, 2018, 3:06 pm

Thanks, OldAle. I think I prefer Varda's list myself as well.
From all the lists I've added so far, Alain Chabat's list might be the most interesting one, because he decided to only pick films that hadn't been picked by anyone else so far. But most lists are strongly leaning towards the canon of course.

@Beavis: well, that depends. To me most of these lists are not as interesting as Kurosawa's or Truffaut's official lists, but they're not essentially different from the currently official Spike Lee list. So if one of the directors is deemed relevant enough to get his or her own list, these lists are good candidates for adoption.
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Post by kombelpeter » May 28th, 2018, 12:03 am

Not sure whether this is the right place to post this, but I created a list of my favorites of the 21st century (205 movies and counting!). (: Any feedback would be welcome! https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/grea ... mbelpeter/

I created a list on Letterboxd of my least favorite movies as well: https://letterboxd.com/kombelpeter/list ... been-made/

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Post by allisoncm » May 28th, 2018, 1:46 am

Gershwin on May 17 2018, 08:31:34 AM wrote:
A few of the Cinetek lists I added today and yesterday:

- Agnès Varda's 50 favourite films
Thanks for the lists. I liked your Agnes Varda one. I love her work as a filmmaker and she listed several films I loved as well.

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Post by Gershwin » June 4th, 2018, 9:25 pm

No problem, thanks. :)

Recently LaCinetek has had a "Top of the Lists" section as well, which lists, quite unsurprisingly, the most cited films. It's kind of a TSPDT or S&S poll effect. So I decided to make that one into an iCM list as well.
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Post by mjf314 » June 13th, 2018, 3:31 pm

Thai Cinema: The Complete Guide (2018 book)
https://www.amazon.com/Thai-Cinema-Comp ... 1788311418

"It includes reviews of 129 films, organised by genre, effectively establishing a Thai cinema canon."
http://blog.matthewhunt.com/2018/05/tha ... guide.html

Would anyone be able to borrow it from a library and post the list?

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