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France Challenge (Official, February 2023)

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France Challenge (Official, February 2023)

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Welcome to the Official France Challenge 2023


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Goal:
Watch as many films from France as you can.
Challenge runs from February 1, 2023 to February 28, 2023 in your local time zone.

Rules:
- Rewatches are welcome.
– A feature film (at least 40 min) counts as one entry.
– A total of 80 minutes of short films, miniseries or TV episodes count as one entry.
- Please include the year of release when listing your viewings.

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Official lists
César Award - Best French Film
The Times's 100 Best French Films
Time Out's The 100 Best French Films


BONUS CHALLENGE 1
voyage à travers les âges
Watch a French feature film from every decade through the ages …1910s-2020s (12 films to complete the bonus challenge). This is a passive challenge, so I'll keep track based on the listed year.

BONUS CHALLENGE 2
Watch French submissions for Best International Feature Film at the Academy Awards.
(In order to be counted tag films for this bonus with #Oscar)

**Qualifying films are from this list...



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1Tasselfoot80x37
2jdidaco72x1
3gunnar32x1
4St. Gloede26
5beavis 23
6peeptoad14
6sol14 1
8Toromash13
9blocho12
9cinephage12
11AB53791
11RogerTheMovieManiac889
11Tngy93
14DudeLanez8
14 morrison-dylan-fan 81
16Lonewolf20037
17maxwelldeux61
18beasterne43
18ororama4
20 magnusbernhardsen31
21Lakigigar1
21Mario Gaborović1
21 nimimerkillinen 1
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Let me know if you want any lists added...
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Looking forward to this challenge! As it's my first country challenge... 2 small questions: 1) Does a film like this: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037680/ count as France? The film is in Spanish, on both Spain iCM lists, but lists France as a co-country under production on IMDb. and 2) 1910s are not part of the decade challenge? Have some Louis Feuliiade serials that I figured I'd watch during this.
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As I have been doing with the regional challenges recently and will be for the future for anyone looking for any inspiration/recommendations for the challenge here is my ranked list of everything seen from France.
https://boxd.it/eT986
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Tasselfoot wrote: January 30th, 2023, 9:23 pm Looking forward to this challenge! As it's my first country challenge... 2 small questions: 1) Does a film like this: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037680/ count as France? The film is in Spanish, on both Spain iCM lists, but lists France as a co-country under production on IMDb. and 2) 1910s are not part of the decade challenge? Have some Louis Feuliiade serials that I figured I'd watch during this.
I'll add the 1910s the first bonus. Not sure why I left them off except that I'm really tired right now.
The specific film you mentioned seems more Spanish than French to me, but maybe someone else who knows the film better can chime in.
I'd generally accept co-productions if the film is primarily French (prod/director/plot/story/setting, etc).
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Cool, thanks! That specific film appears to have little ties to France, except that the director is French. The language is Spanish, the film is about the Spanish Civil War, the actors are all Spanish. I figured it didn't meet the spirit of the challenge, but wanted to make sure where a line might be drawn.
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I just got my thread up, and also have an #Oscar bonus challenge. Great minds... :cheers:
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I originally planned on watching 10-15 films for this challenge, but my list has been growing so I may watch a few more than that. The first bonus challenge may spur a few additional watches as well.
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maxwelldeux wrote: January 30th, 2023, 11:52 pm I just got my thread up, and also have an #Oscar bonus challenge. Great minds... :cheers:
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01. Michel Strogoff (1956)

Parts of this film are shot in my district (outdoors scenes), which made it the very first film to be shot there. Otherwise it's mediocre at best.
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1. The Child of Paris (1913) - 5/10. Pretty decent story for an early silent drama.
2. The Faces of Children (1925) - 4/10 - Just don't really like silent films. Neat avalanche scene, though.
3. Song of Armorica (1934) - 4/10 - Never heard of a language called Breton before.
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1. Les cousins (1959) 8
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#4. Summer Light (1943) - 4/10. Really odd mid-WW2 drama/comedy. Nothing really flows well.
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1. My Night at Maud's (1969) #Oscar

This one will stick with me. It's my first Rohmer film, and I'm intrigued to try more. A very dialogue-driven film that reminded me of My Dinner with Andre (which could have been inspired by Maud, especially given their similar titles). There's a lot going on in this one with both the characters and the themes. The cinematography was also very well done. I liked this a lot.

I'll be shooting for 8-10 watches this month for the challenge, as my primary focus will be the Academy Award Nominees challenge.
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5. The Gates of Paris (1957) - 7/10. Nice hostage situation in a small town. Sort of. #Oscar
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Tasselfoot wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 7:38 pm 5. The Gates of Paris (1957) - 7/10. Nice hostage situation in a small town. Sort of. #Oscar
Hi Tasselfoot, would you mind posting your list of movies seen under a spoiler tag when you post your views? It'll be much easier for me to keep track...
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6. The Truth (1960) - 7/10. Refreshingly different from American courtroom dramas. #Oscar

Doesn't seem like my responsibility to track, but whatever. Will try to do as you've asked.
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1. The Child of Paris (1913)
2. The Faces of Children (1925)
3. Song of Armorica (1934)
4. Summer Light (1943)
5. The Gates of Paris (1957) #Oscar
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7. Cousin Cousin (1975) - 3/10 - This is a very bad movie. Not funny, poor music, odd editing. Incestual. How the f was this #Oscar ??
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1. The Child of Paris (1913)
2. The Faces of Children (1925)
3. Song of Armorica (1934)
4. Summer Light (1943)
5. The Gates of Paris (1957) #Oscar
6. The Truth (1960) #Oscar
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Tasselfoot wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 10:43 pm Doesn't seem like my responsibility to track, but whatever. Will try to do as you've asked.
It's a standard around here, but if it puts you off then post as you please and I'll piece it together, no worries. Not too many participants so far anyway, so it should be a breeze. Feel free to let me know if I make an error in your score anywhere along the way,..
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Thanks for hosting, peeps. In for whatever challenge doubles pop up this month and whatever Godard films Gloebe makes me (re)watch.

1. At Eternity's Gate (2018)

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This Van Gogh film netted Willem Dafoe a Best Actor Oscar nom and he is as solid as one would expect, but it's hardly his best recent work (Lighthouse, anyone?). The overall film is also a bit of an up and down ride. There are some great dialogue-free scenes of Dafoe basking in natural beauty before painting and the constant repeated dialogue (as he remembers things that others have told him as echoes) is a great touch. The more dialogue-heavy parts feel very verbose and longwinded though and the unsteady handheld camerawork is a mixed blessing - visually interesting but distractingly noticeable.
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8. Camille Claudel (1988) - 7/10. Love me an artistic biopic about someone I've never heard of. #Oscar
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1. The Child of Paris (1913)
2. The Faces of Children (1925)
3. Song of Armorica (1934)
4. Summer Light (1943)
5. The Gates of Paris (1957) #Oscar
6. The Truth (1960) #Oscar
7. Cousin Cousin (1975) #Oscar
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9. Ridicule (1996) - 8/10. Very entertaining period piece at the end of the French monarchy. Solid wit. #Oscar
10. The Beat That My Heart Skipped (2005) - 7/10. Heart of a musician, spirit of a gangster.
11. Custody (2017) - 8/10. Jeez... can't be thankful enough that my divorced parents were amicable to each other.
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1. The Child of Paris (1913)
2. The Faces of Children (1925)
3. Song of Armorica (1934)
4. Summer Light (1943)
5. The Gates of Paris (1957) #Oscar
6. The Truth (1960) #Oscar
7. Cousin Cousin (1975) #Oscar
8. Camille Claudel (1988) #Oscar
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1. At Eternity's Gate (2018)
2. The Beasts (2022)

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Setting up a eco-friendly farm, a couple are met with hostility and suspicion by locals who know not understand their farming methods in this slow burn thriller. While there are a number of intense interactions between the couple and the locals, the slow pacing gets in the way of tension truly building. It also does not help that the locals are painted as simplistic virtual rednecks, while the main couple are presented as simple, virtuous do-gooders who want to do nothing more than farm their crops in peace. That said, the film does mount a pretty great climax, even if it is followed by a dragged-out aftermath.
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12. Bye Bye Morons (2020) - 5/10. Unrealistic and overly sappy. Yet mildly enjoyable for the 3 main characters.

Completed the decade challenge.
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1. The Child of Paris (1913)
2. The Faces of Children (1925)
3. Song of Armorica (1934)
4. Summer Light (1943)
5. The Gates of Paris (1957) #Oscar
6. The Truth (1960) #Oscar
7. Cousin Cousin (1975) #Oscar
8. Camille Claudel (1988) #Oscar
9. Ridicule (1996) #Oscar
10. The Beat That My Heart Skipped (2005)
11. Custody (2017)
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2. La chienne (1931) 7
3. L'oeil du malin /The Third Lover (1962) 7
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1. Les cousins (1959) 8
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1. Le Fabuleux Destin d'Amélie Poulain (2001) 7/10 #Oscar
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1. We Won't Grow Old Together (1972, Maurice Pialat) 6/10
2. Custody (2017, Xavier Legrand) 6,5/10
3. Petite Maman (2021, Céline Sciamma) 6,5/10
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13-16. Judex (1916) - 6/10. 317m runtime - Big fan of the Licorice Kid.
+ Jeux des reflets et de la vitesse (1925) - 8 min
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1. The Child of Paris (1913)
2. The Faces of Children (1925)
3. Song of Armorica (1934)
4. Summer Light (1943)
5. The Gates of Paris (1957) #Oscar
6. The Truth (1960) #Oscar
7. Cousin Cousin (1975) #Oscar
8. Camille Claudel (1988) #Oscar
9. Ridicule (1996) #Oscar
10. The Beat That My Heart Skipped (2005)
11. Custody (2017)
12. Bye Bye Morons (2020)
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1 - The Story of a Cheat (1936) - 7.5/10 - A man sits down in a cafe and writes his memoirs, narrating events as they unfold on screen. Throughout his life, the evidence suggests that dishonesty pays while being honest gets you nowhere. It's a fairly humorous tale.

2 - La Chienne (1931) - 8/10 - A middle aged cashier with a domineering wife falls for a pretty woman who happens to be a prostitute who is in love with her pimp. The pimp has the woman start a relationship with the man to try and get money out of him. The cashier paints as a hobby and this also comes into play. I like Fritz Lang's version (Scarlet Street) more, but this is a pretty good film.

3 - Certified Copy (2010) - 8/10 - A British author is giving a speech in Tuscany about his latest book. The book is about original art and copies of original art and whether there is really any difference between the two. A woman is in the front row for the speech, but has to leave due to her son's behavior so she leaves her number with the author's friend. The woman meets with the author the next day and they spend the day driving and walking around to various places. It's an interesting film with a bit of mystery thrown in about their relationship.
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1. At Eternity's Gate (2018)
2. The Beasts (2022)
3. Baby Blood (1990)

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The parasite's voice is downright creepy here and the film mounts several effective gory moments, particularly some point-of-view camerawork that mimics her stabs as she knifes a man to death in her kitchen. There are also some very effective dark laughs that vary from wordplay gags in an ambulance to crazy reaction shots. The film is never quite as funny as the similarly themed Prevenge though, nor are the visuals quite as impressive as those in Brain Damage, to which the film owes its greatest debt. This is pretty entertaining while it lasts though while tapping into pregnancy fears, worries and anxiety.
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1. Band of Outsiders (1964)

Godard has the occasional hit for me, but mostly misses - this fell into the latter category. It did eventually get to me why it's on the Quentin Tarantino "Coolest Movies" list, which made it a little more enjoyable. And the dance sequence in the club was pretty awesome. But it just fell flat and didn't make me want to ever see it again.
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1. At Eternity's Gate (2018)
2. The Beasts (2022)
3. Baby Blood (1990)
4. Every Man for Himself (1980)

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Three individuals navigate life while processing their innermost sexual desires in this weird but interesting Jean-Luc Godard film. There is much of interest at hand with Godard naming the protagonist after himself and giving him male fans who throw themselves at him and beg him to bang them. Stylistically, it is very interesting too with a bunch of slow motion and slowed-down shots, tapping into what one character says about how pivotal "moments still exist, though horribly stretched out" in one's mind. And for a film about sexual perversions, it seems only appropriate for Godard to pervert his frame rate.
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Thank you for hosting, peeptoad. I really enjoyed the voyage à travers les âges Bonus Challenge, I might do it once more before the month ends.

(Sreenshots from 'La vie miraculeuse de Thérèse Martin', 'L'annonce faite à Marie' & 'La chambre obscure'),

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1. Le pied qui étreint (The Clutching Foot, Jacques Feyder, 1916) 8/10
2. La vie miraculeuse de Thérèse Martin (The Miraculous Life of Teresa of Lisieux, Julien Duvivier, 1929) 10/10
3. Le chanteur inconnu (The Unknown Singer, Viktor Tourjansky, 1931) 8/10
4. Pour une nuit d'amour (Passionnelle, Edmond T. Gréville, 1947) 9.5/10
5. L'amour d'une femme (The Love of a Woman, Jean Grémillon, 1953) 8.5/10
6. La belle vie (The Good Life, Robert Enrico, 1963) 9/10
7. Le coeur fou (The Mad Heart, Jean-Gabriel Albicocco, 1970) 7.5/10
8. La passion Béatrice (The Passion of Beatrice, Bertrand Tavernier, 1987) 8.5/10
9. L'annonce faite à Marie (The Annunciation of Marie, Alain Cuny, 1991) 10/10

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10. La chambre obscure (The Dark Room, Marie-Christine Questerbert, 2000) 8.5/10
11. Diamant noir (Dark Inclusion, Arthur Harari, 2016) 7.5/10
12. Viens je t'emmène (Nobody's Hero, Alain Guiraudie, 2022) 8/10

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1. Les choses de la vie - The Things of Life (Claude Sautet, 1970) 7.5/10
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jdidaco wrote: February 5th, 2023, 1:30 pm Thank you for hosting, peeptoad. I really enjoyed the voyage à travers les âges Bonus Challenge, I might do it once more before the month ends.
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4. Landru/Bluebeard (1963) 7
5. Le scandale/The Champagne Murders (1967) 7

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1. Les cousins (1959) 8
2. La chienne (1931) 7
3. L'oeil du malin /The Third Lover (1962) 7
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1. Sauve qui peut (la vie) / Slow Motion / Every Man For Himself (1980, Jean-Luc Godard) Rewatch

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Can a film succeed even if its purpose for existing, its core gimmick or experiment is at best hit and miss? I struggled with the slow-motion technique when I saw Slow Motion for the first time, and I am still ambivalent to the point that had this not literally been JLG's comeback film, shooting him back into the limelight and on the receiving end of praise from around the world I'd have felt almost like a professional apologist to recommend this film. It is a film that while I was captivated from start to finish, as per usual, I almost feel confused as to why it was a success.

The film is a bit of a hot mess, mixing crass, almost juvenile humor, complete with an ass fixation and incestuous fetishes as a semi-running motif - and a hardly inspiring film director(?) lead named after Godard's father, Paul, which may be a stand-in for either or both - though whether Jean-Luc fears he is turning into his father or not is hardly a key concern for the film.

While the first storyline is messy and choppy, this is, for the first real-time since '72, the first proper narrative film Godard had done, everything else leaning too far into essay or video art territory. Here we have characters, yes, characters, with hopes, dreams, and narrative progress - and what's more we have stars.

Yes, Godard managed to nab Jacques Dutronc, Nathalie Baye and Isabelle Huppert, the two former as a definitely off-again couple, and the latter as an entrepreneurial prostitute. To be frank, of the two stories (both given about 40 minutes, with a few overlaps and a shared conclusion) it is Huppert's that is the most gripping, while the former tries a little too hard to be funny, complete with a non-existent Marguerite Duras cameo, though "she is definitely there".

A part of me wonders what Godard was thinking mounting this, especially the combination of the bizarre humour, the occasional surreal imagery, and two, to me, very different stories. Is there a shared idea or riff, like in his later 80s films, or is it window dressing for a technique he had to test - and even he admitted he was not quite happy with and was not always successful in capturing what he wanted or was looking for.

At the same time, no one has done slow motion quite in this way, and reading about his intent from time to time over the years - the idea of time being slowed down revealing and obscuring at the same time, leaving more room for interpretation and letting us see something more - well, it does often work. The most famous scene of Paul jumping across the table at his ex in a scene where we are not sure if he is attacking her or romancing her is of particular interest, but also the scene towards the very end where he pulls his other ex towards him and it seems like an elegant dance. There is a power to it, even if it is often more jarring.

As someone who loves Godard's stretch of 80s films, I can also very much see what he meant when he called this his 2nd first film. It is not just a "comeback", it is a very new relationship with form - one that was born out of the experimental cinema he was producing in the late 60s and 70s, but reshaped into something else, with a stark sense of space and movement within the frame. His shots and compositions are often remarkable, not just in themselves, but in their contrasts to essentially everything else that was out there, and it was this form he would test drive and frankly, do far more with as the decade progressed. In this way, it shares quite a lot with Breathless, in showing his intentions to do something radically different, and cinema was once again richer for it. 8/10


2. L'esclave blanche / Pasha's Wives (1939, Georg Wilhelm Pabst, Marc Sorkin)

Another post-silent era Pabst that often impresses with craft, or at least is perfectly competent in craft, but is rather lacking in the script department. 6/10.


3. Le garçu (1997, Maurice Pialat)

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Pialat's last film before retiring is rarely thought of as his best, and edited a way he himself was displeased with and wanted to "fix", but while it may at times drag just a little, the core is strong. It has his traditionally dark "realism" the way only he does it, but here, amidst relationship trouble and the every day, is something a little more human, parental love - or what there is of it. Gerard Depardieu is absolutely phenomernal as the largely absent father and womanizer who shows up with the medium-grand gestures, if only occasionally, and there's some wonderfully raw and complicated emotions here, making it perhaps Pialat's most "lighthearted". If you were unsure of whether or not to complete Pialat's feature filmography I'd strongly recommend it, and the 4k restoration is simply stunning.


4. Le bon et les méchants / The Good and the Bad (1976, Claude Lelouch)

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Watching The Good and the Bad I was struck by how odd it is that Lelouch has been largely erased from the conversation and does not get the credit he is due in terms of being a relatively daring and creative voice within mainstream French cinema in the 60s and 70s - this largely due to the contrast with the French New Wave directors I'm sure. The way he carries long-takes and just trust the audience as he lets a scene rest is frankly remarkable.

The Good and the Bad is a sepia/golden-toned black-and-white crime comedy, that spans from the golden, jovial 30s through the occupation, and manages to balance form and content from beginning to end. Along with the rather interesting (though overt) set-up as the Nazis running the occupation as a criminal gang, the morally dark grey but "charming" leads, toying with profiting off of, and even working with the nazis, with their own conscience, lights up a rich, fun romp that goes some dark and ambiguous places. 7/10


5. Viens je t'emmène / Nobody's Hero (2022, Alain Guiraudie)

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Dirty, funny, quirky and tragic in its inaction, Guiraudie is back in full steam with this comedy that manages to spin together sex (of course), prostitution (makes sense) and terrorism, racism, rising crime and French culture as a whole (...). Ok then. It feels like a film where he is biting off more than ever before, but plays without ambition, or rather in such an ussaming way, that the grander points he may make or, situations he might make you contemplate, occur as if natural and never under the suspicion of "prevention". 8/10
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Also, without trying I seem to have gotten 5 out of 12 decades for the bonus challenge, so might just aim to catch all there - though next up I have a few more Godard rewatches.
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17. Bad Blood (1986) - 3/10. A heist movie that isn't about the heist. Really dislike this director; feels like he studied too hard at the Godard School of Sniffing Your Own Farts. Apparently the film's backdrop is that people die if they have loveless sex... but I really did not understand that at all from watching it.
18. The Terrible Children (1950) - 4/10 - Well, the title didn't lie... some insufferable main characters. Along with having a narrator for some reason that I can't fathom.
19. Judex (1963) 7/10 - Better than the serial, but feels rushed given how fast paced it moves and what it leaves out. And the lack of any music vs a silent picture that has music constantly playing is jarring.
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1. The Child of Paris (1913)
2. The Faces of Children (1925)
3. Song of Armorica (1934)
4. Summer Light (1943)
5. The Gates of Paris (1957) #Oscar
6. The Truth (1960) #Oscar
7. Cousin Cousin (1975) #Oscar
8. Camille Claudel (1988) #Oscar
9. Ridicule (1996) #Oscar
10. The Beat That My Heart Skipped (2005)
11. Custody (2017)
12. Bye Bye Morons (2020)
13-16. Judex (1916)
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4 - Fanny (1932) - 8/10 - This picks up right after Marius ended and focuses on Fanny and how she deals with her new situation. I liked this film more than the previous one and think having Marius only appear for a small role was good.

5 - César (1936) - 7.5/10 - 20 years have passed since the events in Fanny. Fanny's husband is dying and Fanny's son, Césariot, is grown up and about to join the army. Césariot seeks out Marius to try and find out what kind of person he is. Overall, I liked this and would put it on par with the first film in the trilogy and a step below the second.

6 - Le Boucher (1970) - 7/10 - A young head teacher attends the wedding of the school's assistant teacher and is seated next to a man who recently left the army after 15 years to take over the family butcher shop. The two hit it off and start a relationship while a series of murders makes headlines and frightens people in town. It's a good film, though had the potential to be a lot better.


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1 - The Story of a Cheat (1936) - 7.5/10
2 - La Chienne (1931) - 8/10
3 - Certified Copy (2010) - 8/10
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