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Noirvember Challenge (Official, November 2021)

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Goal:
Watch as many movies as you can that fit into the Film Noir and Neo-Noir genres. If you are in doubt whether a movie counts or not, just ask.

Rules
- Each feature film (over 40 minutes) counts as one entry.
- 80 minutes of short films or miniseries/TV episodes counts as one entry.
- Films must be watched one at a time and at single speed (not sped up).
- Rewatches are allowed and are good for your soul.
- Challenge runs from November 1st - 30th 2021

Official lists:
IMDb Top 50 Film-Noir
TSPDT 100 Essential Noir Films
TSPDT 1000 Noir Films


Bonus Challenge: Femmes of Film Noir
Yeah I know I said I wouldn't run a bonus challenge but while I was looking for a picture for the top I came across the picture below and couldn't resist. The challenge is simple, there are 30 names below, to win this you have to watch a movie with each of the actresses in it. To record your watch mark which Femme you are recording it for e.g. #Gloria Grahame. Bonus points for anyone who watches them in order, more for someone who watches them in order on the specified day in the picture.

Note: Day 24: Joan Harrison is not an actress but instead a screenwriter/producer. For her entry any Noir she was involved as either of those roles will be acceptable.

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Femmes of Film Noir
Day 1: Gloria Grahame
Day 2: Lana Turner
Day 3: Shelley Winters
Day 4: Joan Bennett
Day 5: Ann Savage
Day 6: Ida Lupino
Day 7: Veronica Lake
Day 8: Mary Astor
Day 9: Lizabeth Scott
Day 10: Marie Windsor
Day 11: Linda Darnell
Day 12: Thelma Ritter
Day 13: Jean Peters
Day 14: Joan Crawford
Day 15: Ella Raines
Day 16: Eve Arden
Day 17: Audrey Totters
Day 18: Jane Greer
Day 19: Cathy O'Donnell
Day 20: Claire Trevor
Day 21: Yvonne De Carlo
Day 22: Barbara Stanwyck
Day 23: Gene Tierney
Day 24: Joan Harrison
Day 25: Ava Gardner
Day 26: Hope Emerson
Day 27: Valentina Cortese
Day 28: Ann Sheridan
Day 29: Marilyn Monroe
Day 30: Lauren Bacall


Scoreboard
PositionParticipantScoreBonus ChallengeBonus in order
1stflavo5000 11126Yes
2ndPUNQ750---
3rdororama446No
4thfrbrown 436No
5thGood_Will_Harding 390---
6thsol 380---
7thDudeLanez 3729Yes
=8thmarienbad3430Yes
=8thjdidaco340---
10thOldAle1292No
11thzzzorf2625Yes
12thRogerTheMovieManiac88250---
13thjeroeno 210---
14thKnaldskalle185No
15thjonas2k 170---
=16thLonewolf2003153No
=16thAB537 151No
18thklaus78140---
19thWalterNeff120---
=20thMelvelet90---
=20thhurluberlu 90---
=22ndLammetje83No
=22ndVincentPrice 86Yes
24thmaxwelldeux76Yes
25th1SO 60---
26thpitchorneirda50---
=27thHunziker 40---
=27thtoromash 40---
=29thkongs_speech 30---
=29thLaTierri 31No
=31stArkantos 20---
=31stblocho 21No
33rdTorgo 10---
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Thanks for hosting zzzorf. Due to work commitments I won't be able to participate as much as I would like to. I am going to focus on completing a few unofficial lists, and let someone else take the crown this year.

The lists I will be working on are:
BFI 100 key Noir films 4 left
Another 100 Film Noirs (BFI Screen Guide) 6 left
Film Noir. 100 All-Time Favorites. Taschen, 2014 2 left
"Death on the Cheap - The Lost B Movies of Film Noir" by Arthur Lyons 2 left

Good luck to everyone else!
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That OP image didn't load for me, so I looked up the image and wrote out the list for the bonus challenge, if anyone wants it.
Femmes of Film Noir
Day 1: Gloria Grahame
Day 2: Lana Turner
Day 3: Shelley Winters
Day 4: Joan Bennett
Day 5: Ann Savage
Day 6: Ida Lupino
Day 7: Veronica Lake
Day 8: Mary Astor
Day 9: Lizabeth Scott
Day 10: Marie Windsor
Day 11: Linda Darnell
Day 12: Thelma Ritter
Day 13: Jean Peters
Day 14: Joan Crawford
Day 15: Ella Raines
Day 16: Eve Arden
Day 17: Audrey Totters
Day 18: Jane Greer
Day 19: Cathy O'Donnell
Day 20: Claire Trevor
Day 21: Yvonne De Carlo
Day 22: Barbara Stanwyck
Day 23: Gene Tierney
Day 24: Joan Harrison
Day 25: Ava Gardner
Day 26: Hope Emerson
Day 27: Valentina Cortese
Day 28: Ann Sheridan
Day 29: Marilyn Monroe
Day 30: Lauren Bacall
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maxwelldeux wrote: October 31st, 2021, 6:21 pm That OP image didn't load for me, so I looked up the image and wrote out the list for the bonus challenge, if anyone wants it.
Femmes of Film Noir
Day 1: Gloria Grahame
Day 2: Lana Turner
Day 3: Shelley Winters
Day 4: Joan Bennett
Day 5: Ann Savage
Day 6: Ida Lupino
Day 7: Veronica Lake
Day 8: Mary Astor
Day 9: Lizabeth Scott
Day 10: Marie Windsor
Day 11: Linda Darnell
Day 12: Thelma Ritter
Day 13: Jean Peters
Day 14: Joan Crawford
Day 15: Ella Raines
Day 16: Eve Arden
Day 17: Audrey Totters
Day 18: Jane Greer
Day 19: Cathy O'Donnell
Day 20: Claire Trevor
Day 21: Yvonne De Carlo
Day 22: Barbara Stanwyck
Day 23: Gene Tierney
Day 24: Joan Harrison
Day 25: Ava Gardner
Day 26: Hope Emerson
Day 27: Valentina Cortese
Day 28: Ann Sheridan
Day 29: Marilyn Monroe
Day 30: Lauren Bacall
Sorry about that Maxwell, I'll add the list to the OP under the picture.
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1. The Leopard Man (Jacques Tourneur, 1943) 6
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Thanks for hosting, zzzorf. I hope everyone goes easy on you. :sweat:

I'm not off to a particularly great start, but hopefully things will only improve from here. I'm looking to shake things up this year and go entirely neo-noir if possible. It will mean less progress on the More Noirs official list, but I still have some neo stuff to watch on it. Also, there's a bunch of stuff tagged as neo-noir that I have been meaning to rewatch for some time. Should be an interesting month even though this won't be my main focus this month. Anyway...

It starts! Second in. :mellow:

1. One False Move (1992) TSP Noirs #489

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Opening with a brutal home invasion that concludes with clever cutting between two children crying in different scenes and locations, this indie crime drama gets off to a solid start. After this point though, it becomes a pretty meandering affair, and ultimately more about the personal life and problems of a local sheriff. Bill Paxton certainly gives it his all in the role and has one surefire memorable final scene, but most of this tested my patience too often.
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1. Borderline (1980)
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1. Macao (1952, Sternberg) 6/10
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WalterNeff wrote: October 31st, 2021, 5:33 pm Thanks for hosting zzzorf. Due to work commitments I won't be able to participate as much as I would like to. I am going to focus on completing a few unofficial lists, and let someone else take the crown this year.

The lists I will be working on are:
BFI 100 key Noir films 4 left
Another 100 Film Noirs (BFI Screen Guide) 6 left
Film Noir. 100 All-Time Favorites. Taschen, 2014 2 left
"Death on the Cheap - The Lost B Movies of Film Noir" by Arthur Lyons 2 left

Good luck to everyone else!
Hey, you forgot about this one:
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/porn ... flavo5000/

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1. A Woman's Secret (1949): 6/10 #GloriaGrahame

Although not tagged as such on IMDb, I felt like I was watching a comedy most of the time. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. I had some difficulties keeping up with the plot as well. Gloria was fantastic though (how couldn't she be).
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1. Phantom Lady (Siodmak, 1944). #Ella Raines.
2. Lady in the Lake (Montgomery, 1946). #Audrey Totter.

Phantom Lady wasn't a bad start to Noirvember, but Lady in the Lake is much more along the lines of what I want from a noir: tough-talking gumshoe, a suspicious dame, some flying knuckles and a convoluted plot. I'm pretty sure I've seen it before, unless it was another detective movie filmed in first-person.
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The lists I will be working on are:
BFI 100 key Noir films 4 left
Another 100 Film Noirs (BFI Screen Guide) 6 left
Film Noir. 100 All-Time Favorites. Taschen, 2014 2 left
"Death on the Cheap - The Lost B Movies of Film Noir" by Arthur Lyons

"Death on the Cheap - The Lost B Movies of Film Noir" by Arthur Lyons

1. Let Us Live (1939) Seventeen years before Hitchcock got him, Henry Fonda is the wrong man, only this time it's murder.
2. La strada buia aka Fugitive Lady (1950) Insurance investigator uncovers a murder plot, with an ironic ending.
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1. The Big Heat (1953) - 7/10 #GloriaGrahame

My 3rd Gloria Grahame film got me off to a good start as this was a pretty solid film. Not much of a twist and turn Noir but just a decent story. Glenn Ford does a great job as the lead.

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1. The Good Die Young-1954: 7/10 #GloriaGrahame
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I was just finishing off my watchlist for the bonus challenge and realised something, Day 24: Joan Harrison is not an actress but instead a screenwriter/producer. For her entry any Noir she was involved as either of those roles will be acceptable. I have added this to the OP.
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Yeah, I'll give this baby a shot - though I doubt I'll get even half as many entries as I did with the October challenge. But there's only one way to find out!

1. The Lady From Shanghai (1947) - This was the first non-Kane film by Welles that I ever watched, way back when I was just starting to seriously get into film around 2007-8, and I remember not being too taken with it back then, probably due to Welles' Irish accent dominating much of the film. On this overdue re-watch, said accent was more palatable, but ultimately found this to be the rare Welles joint where the very obvious studio meddling muddles the content of the film beyond repair. There's still a lot to admire here, particularly the climactic funhouse scene, but on the whole you can count me among the multitudes who pray that an uncut original version of this will be discovered in a Brazilian vault sometime soon.
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1. The Big Heat (1953) - 7/10 #GloriaGrahame

2. Johnny Eager (1942) - 7/10 #LanaTurner

My 3rd Lana Taylor film continues a trend of what I believe will be a run similar results as I extend my very small Noir resume, quite acceptable watches that increase in enjoyment level as I get immersed in the world created but just don't push over into that love area. I think this movie suffered from Johnny Eager not really being that 'gangster'.

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1. Baby Face Nelson (1957)
2. Convicted (1950)
3. Still of the Night (1982)

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zzzorf wrote: November 2nd, 2021, 2:03 am I was just finishing off my watchlist for the bonus challenge and realised something, Day 24: Joan Harrison is not an actress but instead a screenwriter/producer. For her entry any Noir she was involved as either of those roles will be acceptable. I have added this to the OP.
Would you also accept films directed by Ida Lupino?
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1. Crossfire (1947) #GloriaGrahame

I'll take "Hey - don't kill Jews" as a central message to a film from the '40s. Not a bad film - nice lighting and pacing.
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frbrown wrote: November 2nd, 2021, 4:17 am
zzzorf wrote: November 2nd, 2021, 2:03 am I was just finishing off my watchlist for the bonus challenge and realised something, Day 24: Joan Harrison is not an actress but instead a screenwriter/producer. For her entry any Noir she was involved as either of those roles will be acceptable. I have added this to the OP.
Would you also accept films directed by Ida Lupino?
I will go with yes that seems acceptable enough.
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2. Man Hunt (1941) - Highly engaging WWII era chiller. Nothing especially revelatory from a story standpoint, but Fritz Lang's very skilled directing talents help elevate this considerably.
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starting out chronologically as I've done in past years... no idea really how many I'll get to, would like to beat my personal best which is 57 if I remember right but...things never seem to be easy in Noirvember.

1. They Gave Him a Gun (W.S. Van Dyke, 1937)

Half a war movie, half a film noir, with a bit too much melodrama for it's own good. Starts out with Spencer Tracy helping out Franchot Tone, who doesn't want to go to war and seems to have a sort of muddled pacifism, through basic training. Tone finds out he's good with a gun, which will come in handy when the two end up over there in France in WWI. Tone becomes a hero by wiping out a German machine-gun nest and Tracy falls for his nurse, Gladys George. But through various plot devices, back stateside Tone is married to George and engaged in a mysterious "insurance" business, while Tracy is back to his old job as carnival barker. When they meet up again, Tracy soon figures out that Tone has descended into FILM NOIR NO-GOODNIK territory and as his old buddy, figures he should help him - or at least wife George, who he still loves - out of it. Things don't go so well of course. This gets a bit into the whole notion of war breeding killers - hence the title, which is repeated near the end of the film - but it still feels more a 30s-era buck-up-the-spirits film than a true noir experience. Tracy is an uneasy fit in noir I think - though he did a few - but Tone very much feels at home in the second half. Overall just all right.

2. They Drive By Night (Arthur B. Woods, 1938)

This British film has no relation apart from the title to the much more famous American 1940 Raoul Walsh picture with Bogart, Raft and Lupino; it appears to have been retitled Murder on the Run for it's early US engagements only, to keep from any confusion with the Walsh film. It's based on a novel by the same name and appears to be the only film based on the work, though it will seem very familiar in many aspects to any noir-head. In particular it has much of the feel - in it's basic plot - of The 39 Steps which had appeared three years earlier and was a big hit. Like that film this features a man wrongly accused of murder who flees up north, falls in with a beautiful girl, and has to try to prove his innocence. I think there are probably a few dozen other films with similar scenarios before and since - The Fugitive of course is a more famous modern example. In this case, the hapless innocent is actually an ex-con who had just gotten out of prison that day, and when he goes to see his girl, he finds her dead, and, knowing he'll be a suspect, begins his nightmarish quest, first fleeing from London in a truck, then coming back with the girl's best friend, who of course he ends up falling for. This is very well done and really does have much of the noir mood and feeling of paranoia down well, though in the end it all feels just a bit too familiar and shopworn, and none of the performances really stand out except perhaps Ernest Thesiger (best known for Bride of Frankenstein) as a creepy amateur psychologist. Solid example but not something I'll remember for long.
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1. Railroaded! (1947) 7/10
2. The Harder They Fall (1956) 7.5/10
3. Black Widow (1954) - 7/10
4. The Good Die Young (1954) - 6/10 #Gloria Graham
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1. Cornered (Edward Dmytryk,1945)
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2. Tomorrow Is Forever (Irving Pichel, 1946)
3. Sharky's Machine (Burt Reynolds, 1981)
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2. Johnny Eager (1941, LeRoy) 7/10
#LanaTurner

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2. Johnny Eager (1941, LeRoy) 7/10 #LanaTurner
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3. Algiers (1938) - I found the most notable thing about this to be the setting and locale, which definitely helped it stand out in at least one way, but ultimately the narrative didn't quite grab me that much on the whole.
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zzzorf wrote: November 2nd, 2021, 3:59 am
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1. The Big Heat (1953) - 7/10 #GloriaGrahame

2. Johnny Eager (1942) - 7/10 #LanaTurner

My 3rd Lana Taylor film continues a trend of what I believe will be a run similar results as I extend my very small Noir resume, quite acceptable watches that increase in enjoyment level as I get immersed in the world created but just don't push over into that love area. I think this movie suffered from Johnny Eager not really being that 'gangster'.
Lana Taylor? tehe
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Lammetje wrote: November 2nd, 2021, 5:12 pm
zzzorf wrote: November 2nd, 2021, 3:59 am
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1. The Big Heat (1953) - 7/10 #GloriaGrahame

2. Johnny Eager (1942) - 7/10 #LanaTurner

My 3rd Lana Taylor film continues a trend of what I believe will be a run similar results as I extend my very small Noir resume, quite acceptable watches that increase in enjoyment level as I get immersed in the world created but just don't push over into that love area. I think this movie suffered from Johnny Eager not really being that 'gangster'.
Lana Taylor? tehe
zzzorf lives on Earth-327, also known as, lemme see if I got this right, ARSTARULIAAH. In his world, Lana Turner and Elizabeth Taylor were one person, "Lana Taylor", who ended up marrying non-gay Rock Liberace, a nightclub entertainer and sometime b-movie actor. Lana Taylor's best-known work remains the controversial "Juliessa Caesar", a monumental 1963 production that almost bankrupted studio Metro Goldwyn Universal, about the ill-fated lesbian love affair between the early Egyptian-Roman Empress and her consort Maria Antony (Ricardia Burtonelli). I didn't know she did any film noir, or as it's called there, film blanc, though.
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Rock Liberace was a great actor, and I will fight anyone who says differently.
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3. T-Men (Mann, 1947). Okay, so stylistically, this is as noir as they get. But it's still just a government propaganda film at the end of the day. Have some love and respect for the hard work of T-Men/G-Men/Detectives/Border Patrol men/Customs Inspectors/school teachers. At least the agitprop was entertaining.
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1. Blind Alley (1939)
2. Bad Influence (1990)
3. 8 Million Ways to Die (1986)
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The lists I will be working on are:
BFI 100 key Noir films 4 left
Another 100 Film Noirs (BFI Screen Guide) 6 left
Film Noir. 100 All-Time Favorites. Taschen, 2014
"Death on the Cheap - The Lost B Movies of Film Noir" by Arthur Lyons

Film Noir. 100 All-Time Favorites. Taschen, 2014

3. Es geschah am hellichten Tag (1958) aka It Happened in Broad Daylight Swiss police lieutenant forgoes retirement to find a child killer on his own time.
4. La môme vert de gris (1953) aka Poison Ivy Long before Alphaville, FBI agent Lemmy Caution tracks down stolen gold in French North Africa.

Death on the Cheap
1. Let Us Live (1939) Seventeen years before Hitchcock got him, Henry Fonda is the wrong man, only this time it's murder.
2. La strada buia aka Fugitive Lady (1950) Insurance investigator uncovers a murder plot, with an ironic ending.
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2. The Postman Always Rings Twice-1944: 8/10 #LanaTurner
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1. The Good Die Young-1954: 7/10 #GloriaGrahame
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Pair of re-watches (one of which in anticipation for an upcoming remake from a recent Oscar winner), neither of which necessarily improved much for me, but I still enjoyed revisiting these puppies all the same.

4. Detour (1945)

5. Nightmare Alley (1947)
Dizzy Dames
1. The Lady From Shanghai (1947)
2. Man Hunt (1941)
3. Algiers (1938)
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4. Bad Boys (1983)

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1. Baby Face Nelson (1957)
2. Convicted (1950)
3. Still of the Night (1982)
4. Bad Boys (1983)
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1. Five Minutes to Live (Bill Karn, 1961) 4.5/10
2. Crime of Passion (Gerd Oswald, 1957) 7.5/10 #Barbara Stanwyck
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1. Fallen Angel (1945, Otto Preminger) rewatch: 7.0 > 7.0 #Linda Darnell
Femmes of Film Noir
Day 1: Gloria Grahame
Day 2: Lana Turner
Day 3: Shelley Winters
Day 4: Joan Bennett
Day 5: Ann Savage
Day 6: Ida Lupino
Day 7: Veronica Lake
Day 8: Mary Astor
Day 9: Lizabeth Scott
Day 10: Marie Windsor
Day 11: Linda Darnell
Day 12: Thelma Ritter
Day 13: Jean Peters
Day 14: Joan Crawford
Day 15: Ella Raines
Day 16: Eve Arden
Day 17: Audrey Totters
Day 18: Jane Greer
Day 19: Cathy O'Donnell
Day 20: Claire Trevor
Day 21: Yvonne De Carlo
Day 22: Barbara Stanwyck
Day 23: Gene Tierney
Day 24: Joan Harrison
Day 25: Ava Gardner
Day 26: Hope Emerson
Day 27: Valentina Cortese
Day 28: Ann Sheridan
Day 29: Marilyn Monroe
Day 30: Lauren Bacall
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6. Hollow Triumph (1948) - Solid, if unremarkable. Quite dynamic from a purely visual standpoint, which I definitely appreciated.

7. The Naked City (1948) - First watched this in college about a decade or so ago, on one of the big streamers at the time (probably Amazon or Netflix), but remembered practically nothing about it - very glad I gave it another watch, because this is an utterly magnificent work in just about every respect. Truly one of the most essential noirs of its time, and one that really manages to stand out in an otherwise highly prolific period for the genre.
Dizzy Dames
1. The Lady From Shanghai (1947)
2. Man Hunt (1941)
3. Algiers (1938)
4. Detour (1945)
5. Nightmare Alley (1947)
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