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Argentina/Brazil/Py/Uy Challenge (Official, November 2021)

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Argentina/Brazil/Paraguay/Uruguay Challenge

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Pictured: 'Punch the Clock' from Brazil and 'La Antena' from Argentina

Goal
Watch movies from Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay. Discuss them.

Challenge runs from November 1, 2021 to November 30, 2021 in your local time zone.

Eligible Countries
- Argentina
- Brazil
- Paraguay
- Uruguay

Rules
- Each feature film (over 40 minutes) counts as one entry.
- 80 minutes of short films or miniseries/TV episodes counts as one entry.
- Films must be watched one at a time and at single speed (not sped up).
- Rewatches are allowed and are good for the soul.
- Please include year of release when listing your viewings.
- Please indicate each film's country when listing your viewings otherwise your score will NOT be included in the leaderboard.

I reserve the right to exclude participants who intentionally number their viewings incorrectly. If you play the game, you're expected to play properly.

Eligibility
For films to qualify for this Challenge, they need to have an eligible country listed as a production country on the film's IMDb page. If you've seen something that you strongly believe should be eligible and isn't, please submit a correction to IMDb and you can include the film as soon as IMDb accepts your correction. Films by ex-pat directors (e.g. Hector Babenco's Ironweed) are not eligible unless they meet the IMDb country listing requirement. I know it isn't ideal that I have to put in hard and fast rules like this, but you wouldn't believe some of the random stuff that participants have tried to include in previous years without such guidelines in place.

Co-Productions
A number of Ar/Br/Py/Uy films are co-productions with non-eligible countries. Please use some common sense to determine whether these films really represent Ar/Br/Py/Uy cinema. As a general guide, a film that has both Argentina and France as production countries but which is filmed in Spanish with a mostly Argentine cast and crew is eligible; a film that has Brazil listed as a third production country but is filmed in English with a mostly Anglophonic cast and crew isn't eligible. I am happy to provide advice for any borderline cases. In most cases, co-productions are eligible unless the involvement of the listed production country is insignificant.

Deadline
Final results will be posted between 1:30pm and 4:30pm GMT on December 2 - at which point it will have been December everywhere in the world for more than a whole day. Any updates that you post beyond this point will not be included in the final results. It is your choice whether you miss the deadline or not; besides, if it's December on your side of the world, shouldn't you be starting on one of next month's challenges?

Stuck for ideas of what to watch? Look no further:

Official Lists
- Abraccine's The 100 Best Brazilian Films
- Cóndor de Plata Award - Best Argentinian Film
- Cien años sin soledad: Greatest Latin American Films - ELIGIBLE COUNTRIES ONLY
- Cinema Tropical's Best Latin American Films 2000-2009 - ELIGIBLE COUNTRIES ONLY
- Cinema Tropical's Best Latin American Films 2010-2019 - ELIGIBLE COUNTRIES ONLY
- UNESCO's Memory of the World - Brazilian titles only; #69-85

Non-Official Lists
- Argentine submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film
- Brazilian submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film
- Paraguayian submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film
- Uruguyian submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film
- Top 50 Argentina Films by Juan Pablo Martínez
- Museo del Cine's Top 100 from Argentina
- Contracampo's Top Brazilian Cinema
- Top Uruguayan Movies from ACCU

This thread will be updated at least once every 48 hours (more often if I am around and feel like it). Please list new films seen in a new post.

Bonus Challenge #1: Watch Sol's favourite unofficial films from Argentina and Brazil

- Argentina: La Antena (IMDb)
- Brazil: Punch the Clock (IMDb)

Bonus Challenge #2: Fill Up the Columns... except for the last one!

The only way to win this is by watching both of sol's recommendations, as well as something from Paraguay and Uruguay and remembering to list the country with every viewing.

Any points in the "undeclared" column will not count towards your final score. You must declare the country when listing your viewings.

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Rank Participant Count Antena Punch AR BR PY UY Undeclared
1 Lu-Chin 96 YES! -- 58 33 3 2 -
2 jdidaco 40 -- -- 20 20 - - -
3 jeroeno 39 -- -- 15 21 3 - -
4 DudeLanez 27 -- YES! 16 8 2 1 -
5 Mario Gaborović 23 -- -- 7 10 1 5 -
6 St. Gloede 16 -- -- 10 5 1 - -
6 sol 16 -- -- 7 5 1 3 -
8 flavo5000 15 -- -- 3 8 1 3 -
9 gunnar 10 YES! YES! 6 2 1 1 -
10 RogerTheMovieManiac88 9 -- -- 7 2 - - -
11 ororama 5 -- -- 3 1 - 1 -
12 AB537 4 -- -- 1 3 - - -
12 blocho 4 -- YES! 2 1 - 1 -
14 OldAle1 3 -- -- 3 - - - -
14 pitchorneirda 3 -- -- 1 2 - - -
16 LaTerri 2 -- -- - 2 - - -
16 maxwelldeux 2 -- -- 1 1 - - -
18 Arkantos 1 -- -- - 1 - - -
18 hurluberlu 1 -- -- 1 - - - -
18 kongs_speech 1 -- -- - 1 - - -
18 Lakigigar 1 -- -- 1 - - - -
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I am sure you guys have discussed this to death, but why did you choose these countries instead of simply South America?

Makes it hard for us non imdb folk.
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Both La Antena and Ironweed are great movies, even if the latter is American and not Brazilian.
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zuma wrote: October 30th, 2021, 5:18 am I am sure you guys have discussed this to death, but why did you choose these countries instead of simply South America?

Makes it hard for us non imdb folk.
In earlier years on the forum, there was simply one giant Latin America + Caribbean Challenge held. When it was decided to split the world into 24 zones for the challenges, it was suggested that this gigantic challenge should be broken up into smaller challenges. Latin America cinema has been burgeoning over the last couple of decades, and whenever the gigantic Latin America Challenge was held, the same few countries would always dominate (Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, Chile) when there is also tons of great stuff out there from other countries.

The current splits that we have are:

1. Mexico/Central America/Caribbean
2. Argentina/Brazil/Paraguay/Uruguay
3. Rest of South America (Andean)

It is anticipated that this structure will encourage participants to seek more films from Central America, the Caribbean and other South American countries rather than focusing primarily on the countries with larger cinematic outputs.

But yes, this has been discussed to death before, and no, it shouldn't make it any harder if you don't use IMDb. Even we had a whole-South America challenge, you would still need to filter the Cinema Tropical and Cien Anos lists to take out any Mexican, Caribbean and Central American movies. The Letterboxd filters (powered by TMDB) are usually pretty good if you have an aversion to IMDb.
blocho wrote: October 30th, 2021, 5:31 am Both La Antena and Ironweed are great movies, even if the latter is American and not Brazilian.
I think I said as much with Ironweed. I'll permit the EN-language likes of Kiss of the Spider Woman and At Play in the Fields of the Lord from Babenco, but yeah, anybody hoping to get points by watching Ironweed in November will be flat out of luck. ;)
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I have a few Argentinian movies I want to watch, but I have a harder time finding Brazilian films I might like.
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UNESCO is another official list sol. Only Brazil on it though. 69-85.
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Top 100 from Argentina 1933-1999 is also a good choice for those participants interested in Argentinian cinema. Personally, I prefer it to the official lists.
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It starts! First in. ^_^ Unfortunately this was not an auspicious start for me. :(

1. Dona Flor and Her Two Husbands (1976) Brazil

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A widowed housewife eventually summons the ghost of her amorous first husband in this comedy from Brazil. Intriguing as this premise may sound, the keyword is "eventually". While the film opens with her first husband dying, we then spend an hour in flashbacks of their life together before she marries the second man. There are certainly quite a few laughs in the ghostly final thirty minutes as he is visible to her only, but it is a long time getting there.
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For fans of cult cinema, this Mondo Macabro list features films from Brazil and Argentina from #352 to #431:
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/pete ... flavo5000/
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1. Limite (1931, Peixoto) 7/10 Brazil
2. El incendio (The Fire, 2015, Schnitman) 6,5/10 Argentina
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Another disappointment... but I liked this one better at least. -_-
Central do Brasil... and Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay
1. Dona Flor and Her Two Husbands (1976) Brazil
2. The Secret in Their Eyes (2009) Argentina

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This is a pretty slow and plodding film for the most part with a mundane first hour largely focused on unrequited love and more talk than action. Things get a little bit more interesting towards the midway point with an intense stadium chase and a riveting scene in which they give their suspect the third degree. The most outstanding part of the film though is the ending, but by that point I wasn't deeply invested in things. I thought Ricardo Darín was superb though.

In other news, I'll give the OP an update and present the first pie chart some time in the next 20-24 hours and will work on ~48-hourly updates from there.
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1. La parte del león (1978) 6.5/10 Argentina
2. O Cangaceiro (1953) 7/10 Brasil
3. Madame Satã (2002) 7/10 Brasil
4. The Red Light Bandit (1968) 7/10 Brasil
5. Paraguayan Hammock (2006) 7.5/10 Paraguay
6. Alanis (2017) 8/10 Argentina
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3. Las herederas (The Heiresses, 2018, Martinessi) 6,5/10 Paraguay
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1. Limite (1931, Peixoto) 7/10 Brazil
2. El incendio (The Fire, 2015, Schnitman) 6,5/10 Argentina
3. Las herederas (The Heiresses, 2018, Martinessi) 6,5/10 Paraguay
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1. La Noche de 12 Anos (2018) Uruguay
The Tupamaros were a leftist revolutionary group that pursued an insurgency against the Uruguayan government in the late 60s and early 70s. By 1972, the army and police had broken the Tupamaros, killing or arresting most participants. But they had trouble holding them in prison. There were multiple successful escape attempts. And after a military coup in 1973, the army reacted by sending some of the Tupamaros to special prisons, though these were less prisons than purgatories -- tiny boxes where talking was forbidden, food was scarce, mistreatment was common, and possessions were not permitted. This movie depicts the suffering of three Tupamaros in those purgatories over the course of 12 years, focusing on both the physical degradation and the mental experience, while sprinkling in a little backstory regarding how they were apprehended. There should have been more backstory, some indication of historical context, but this is still a very effective movie.
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First OP update done. :ICM: Lu-Chin takes an early lead; one of the benefits of having Spanish as your native language in a challenge like this. :sweat:

First pie chart:

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Next update in around 48 hours.
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I'll join and aim to do at least 5-10.
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I was feeling this one at first, but overall I liked this a lot more than the two other more acclaimed ones that I have watch for the challenge so far. B)
Central do Brasil... and Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay
1. Dona Flor and Her Two Husbands (1976) Brazil
2. The Secret in Their Eyes (2009) Argentina
3. Bad Day to Go Fishing (2009) Uruguay

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A has-been wrestler and his overly dedicated manager hustle other washed up fighters in this road movie. Things get interesting as it becomes apparent that the wrestler is actually really sick and mentally unwell (not just playing it up for the hustle). It is Gary Piquer who steals the show though as his slimy manager, and while he becomes increasingly manipulative, it reaches a point where it is obvious that he also cares for the wrestler beyond the money.
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sol wrote: November 3rd, 2021, 12:53 pm 3. Bad Day to Go Fishing (2009) Uruguay
One of my favorite hidden gems of the 2000s. Wanted to recommend it to others for this challenge.
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1. O Caminho das Nuvens a.k.a. The Middle of the World (Brazil, 2003)

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2. La casa muda a.k.a. The Silent House (Uruguay, 2010)
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1. O Caminho das Nuvens a.k.a. The Middle of the World (Brazil, 2003)
2. La casa muda a.k.a. The Silent House (Uruguay, 2010)
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Silga wrote: November 3rd, 2021, 1:40 pm
sol wrote: November 3rd, 2021, 12:53 pm 3. Bad Day to Go Fishing (2009) Uruguay
One of my favorite hidden gems of the 2000s. Wanted to recommend it to others for this challenge.
:thumbsup: I might add it to my 500<400 ballot. Haven't decided yet. I was certainly surprised by how much I liked the film by the time it was over.
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01. São Paulo, Sociedade Anônima (1965) - Brazil
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1. Invasion (Hugo Santiago, 1969) [Argentina] 7
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02. O País de São Saruê (1971) - Brazil

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01. São Paulo, Sociedade Anônima (1965) - Brazil
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4. Assalto ao Trem Pagador (Assault on the Pay Train, 1962, Farias) 4,5/10 Brazil
5. La película infinita (The Endless Film, 2018, Listorti) 5/10 Argentina
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1. Limite (1931, Peixoto) 7/10 Brazil
2. El incendio (The Fire, 2015, Schnitman) 6,5/10 Argentina
3. Las herederas (The Heiresses, 2018, Martinessi) 6,5/10 Paraguay
4. Assalto ao Trem Pagador (Assault on the Pay Train, 1962, Farias) 4,5/10 Brazil
5. La película infinita (The Endless Film, 2018, Listorti) 5/10 Argentina
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For your reference, cross-referencing etc:

Lists of movies available online with English subtitles from:
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Thanks for hosting, sol!

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1. Puntos suspensivos o Esperando a los bárbaros (Dot... Dot... Dot..., Edgardo Cozarinsky, 1971) 8.5/10 (Argentina)
2. Na Boca da Noite (In the Depths of the Night, Walter Lima Jr., 1972) 9/10 (Brazil)
3. Através da Sombra (Through the Shadow, Walter Lima Jr., 2015) 6.5/10 (Brazil)
4. Cuentos de chacales (Jackal Stories, Martín Farina, 2017) 7.5/10 (Argentina)
5. Inferninho (My Own Private Hell, Guto Parente & Pedro Diogenes, 2018) 7/10 (Brazil)
6. Fin de siglo (End of the Century, Lucio Castro, 2019) 8/10 (Argentina)

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1. O Menino que Matou Meus Pais AKA The Boy Who Killed My Parents (Mauricio Eca, 2021) 5/10 Brazil
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1. La parte del león (1978) 6.5/10 Argentina
2. O Cangaceiro (1953) 7/10 Brasil
3. Madame Satã (2002) 7/10 Brasil
4. The Red Light Bandit (1968) 7/10 Brasil
5. Paraguayan Hammock (2006) 7.5/10 Paraguay
6. Alanis (2017) 8/10 Argentina
7. Camila (1984) 7.5/10 Argentina
8. Rebellion in Patagonia (1974) 8/10 Argentina
9. The Apostate (2015) 6/10 Uruguay
10. Clandestine Childhood (2011) 8/10 Argentina
11. La vida en común (2019) 5/10 Argentina
12. The Truce (1974) 8/10 Argentina
13. How Tasty Was My Little Frenchman (1971) 6/10 Brasil
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OP updated. :ICM: Unsurprisingly, we currently have two South American users in the lead. :ph43r: Updated pie chart:

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Next update in around 48 hours.
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Central do Brasil... and Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay
1. Dona Flor and Her Two Husbands (1976) Brazil
2. The Secret in Their Eyes (2009) Argentina
3. Bad Day to Go Fishing (2009) Uruguay
4. Neighbouring Sounds (2012) Brazil

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Living in the same apartment building, the lives of various Brazilians play out here while new security guards are employed. There is little tying together the slice-of-life episodes of the various tenants together, but the most fascinating angles include a war over television set sizes and a mother trying to stop a neighbour's dog from barking. The security guards' perspective is somewhat more interesting, but tension and excitement isn't a strength of the film.
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6. Ganga Bruta (1933, Mauro) 6/10 Brazil
7. La casa del ángel (End of Innocence, 1957, Nilsson) 7,5/10 Argentina
8. Histórias que Só Existem Quando Lembradas (Found Memories, 2011, Murat) 7/10 Brazil
BRA: 4 / ARG: 3 / PAR: 1 / URU: 0
1. Limite (1931, Peixoto) 7/10 Brazil
2. El incendio (The Fire, 2015, Schnitman) 6,5/10 Argentina
3. Las herederas (The Heiresses, 2018, Martinessi) 6,5/10 Paraguay
4. Assalto ao Trem Pagador (Assault on the Pay Train, 1962, Farias) 4,5/10 Brazil
5. La película infinita (The Endless Film, 2018, Listorti) 5/10 Argentina
6. Ganga Bruta (1933, Mauro) 6/10 Brazil
7. La casa del ángel (End of Innocence, 1957, Nilsson) 7,5/10 Argentina
8. Histórias que Só Existem Quando Lembradas (Found Memories, 2011, Murat) 7/10 Brazil
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Central do Brasil... and Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay
1. Dona Flor and Her Two Husbands (1976) Brazil
2. The Secret in Their Eyes (2009) Argentina
3. Bad Day to Go Fishing (2009) Uruguay
4. Neighbouring Sounds (2012) Brazil
5. How to Win Enemies (2014) Argentina

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Robbed after one night stand with a young woman who shared a few too many of his interests, an aspiring mystery author searches for clues as to who set him up in this lightweight Argentine comedy. Martín Slipak makes for an appealing protagonist, however, the mystery that he is trying to solve is lacking in thrills and suspense. There is little sense of danger and urgency; it is really a very leisurely search - and one with an underwhelming ultimate reveal too.
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3. Pixote: A Lei do Mais Fraco (Brazil, 1980)

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4. Muñeco viviente V a.k.a. Puppet Pals V (Uruguay, 2008)
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1. O Caminho das Nuvens a.k.a. The Middle of the World (Brazil, 2003)
2. La casa muda a.k.a. The Silent House (Uruguay, 2010)
3. Pixote: A Lei do Mais Fraco (Brazil, 1980)
4. Muñeco viviente V a.k.a. Puppet Pals V (Uruguay, 2008)
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Central do Brasil... and Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay
1. Dona Flor and Her Two Husbands (1976) Brazil
2. The Secret in Their Eyes (2009) Argentina
3. Bad Day to Go Fishing (2009) Uruguay
4. Neighbouring Sounds (2012) Brazil
5. How to Win Enemies (2014) Argentina
6. The German Doctor (2013) Argentina

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Charming and well-spoken, an incognito Josef Mengele ingratiates himself with an Argentine family while fleeing justice in this drama inspired by actual events. Not everything works here, but what really clicks is Mengele's friendship with the daughter. Born premature and very underdeveloped for a girl her age, she naturally falls for his promises of how he can help. Newcomer Florencia Bado is excellent as the curious girl too with expressive wide eyes.
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03. La película infinita (2018) - Argentina
04. Mal día para pescar (2009) - Uruguay
05. Serras da desordem (2006) - Brazil

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01. São Paulo, Sociedade Anônima (1965) - Brazil
02. O País de São Saruê (1971) - Brazil
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1. La parte del león (1978) 6.5/10 Argentina
2. O Cangaceiro (1953) 7/10 Brasil
3. Madame Satã (2002) 7/10 Brasil
4. The Red Light Bandit (1968) 7/10 Brasil
5. Paraguayan Hammock (2006) 7.5/10 Paraguay
6. Alanis (2017) 8/10 Argentina
7. Camila (1984) 7.5/10 Argentina
8. Rebellion in Patagonia (1974) 8/10 Argentina
9. The Apostate (2015) 6/10 Uruguay
10. Clandestine Childhood (2011) 8/10 Argentina
11. La vida en común (2019) 5/10 Argentina
12. The Truce (1974) 8/10 Argentina
13. How Tasty Was My Little Frenchman (1971) 6/10 Brasil
14. The Dark Side of the Heart (1992) 7/10 Argentina
15. The Desert Bride (2017) 7/10 Argentina
16. At Midnight I'll Take Your Soul (1964) 6/10 Brasil
17. Love for Sale (2006) 7.5/10 Brasil
18. Barren Lives (1963) 7.5/10 Brasil
19. Peões (2004) 6.5/10 Brasil
20. The Aerial (2007) 7/10 Argentina
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09. Rapado (Cropped Head, 1992, Rejtman) 5/10 Argentina
10. La casa muda (The Silent House, 2010, Hernández) 6,5/10 Uruguay
BRA: 4 / ARG: 4 / PAR: 1 / URU: 1
01. Limite (1931, Peixoto) 7/10 Brazil
02. El incendio (The Fire, 2015, Schnitman) 6,5/10 Argentina
03. Las herederas (The Heiresses, 2018, Martinessi) 6,5/10 Paraguay
04. Assalto ao Trem Pagador (Assault on the Pay Train, 1962, Farias) 4,5/10 Brazil
05. La película infinita (The Endless Film, 2018, Listorti) 5/10 Argentina
06. Ganga Bruta (1933, Mauro) 6/10 Brazil
07. La casa del ángel (End of Innocence, 1957, Nilsson) 7,5/10 Argentina
08. Histórias que Só Existem Quando Lembradas (Found Memories, 2011, Murat) 7/10 Brazil
09. Rapado (Cropped Head, 1992, Rejtman) 5/10 Argentina
10. La casa muda (The Silent House, 2010, Hernández) 6,5/10 Uruguay
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Central do Brasil... and Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay
1. Dona Flor and Her Two Husbands (1976) Brazil
2. The Secret in Their Eyes (2009) Argentina
3. Bad Day to Go Fishing (2009) Uruguay
4. Neighbouring Sounds (2012) Brazil
5. How to Win Enemies (2014) Argentina
6. The German Doctor (2013) Argentina
7. The Cannibal Club (2018) Brazil

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Opening with a brutal seduction-turned-murder that leads to husband and wife killers simultaneously climaxing, this begins well; the rest of the film though is less impressive. The premise is intriguing as it turns out that the couple belong to an elite club of wealthy cannibals who routinely murder and serve up their staff as meals. Little time though is spent exploring the ins and outs of the club and how they keep going/cover things up. The gore is limited too.
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OP updated. Lu-Chin still in the lead and has watched one sol-recommendation too now. :woot: Updated pie chart:

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Central do Brasil... and Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay
1. Dona Flor and Her Two Husbands (1976) Brazil
2. The Secret in Their Eyes (2009) Argentina
3. Bad Day to Go Fishing (2009) Uruguay
4. Neighbouring Sounds (2012) Brazil
5. How to Win Enemies (2014) Argentina
6. The German Doctor (2013) Argentina
7. The Cannibal Club (2018) Brazil
8. Landfill Harmonic (2015) Paraguay

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Following a children's orchestra from Paraguay whose members play on instruments created out of garbage, this documentary has a curious topic. It is fascinating to watch the locals create instruments out of everything from discarded spoons to an x-ray (!), and the filmmakers get some great reaction shots as the kids rehearse and play. The focus of the film feels all-over-the-place though - and then the project ends with a blatant plea for donations.
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