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I'm 3 episodes into I Told Sunset About You (2020), a 5-episode Thai BL (boys' love) drama.

Thailand makes a lot of BL dramas (they've made over 100 so far), and a lot of reviews are calling this one the best BL drama ever made. It's rated 9.1 on IMDb and 9.3 on Douban. Some reviews have compared it to Call Me By Your Name.

This is my first BL drama, so I don't know how it compares to others, but I like it so far. The main character is a little bit annoying in the first couple of episodes, but it seems to be getting better, and episode 3 is my favorite so far. It does a good job of subtly showing what the characters are feeling, and the cinematography is good as well.

Here's the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIylNdQuR-w
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But where can one find it?

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is Hit & Miss (one season series) a good watch?

shouldn't this list be listed in the OP?
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Armoreska wrote: June 4th, 2021, 10:28 am But where can one find it?
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]

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Ageless and immortal, four mercenaries take on the most dangerous of missions in this action movie based on a series of graphic novels. The premise is certainly fascinating enough but the film never really explores the weariness of having lived for centuries, while also dodging questions such whether they can regenerate severed limbs. There are some great actions bits though, and the film has a very nice portrayal of a gay romance that has lasted centuries.
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Cruella features a secondary gay male character (Artie) and is an extremely queer film in its embrace of camp. I'm also holding out hope that Cruella herself could be a lesbian, as there is absolutely no indicator in the movie of her being interested in dudes. I put it on my Letterboxd list of Pride watches. Does it count here?
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mjf314 wrote: June 4th, 2021, 9:33 am I'm 3 episodes into I Told Sunset About You (2020), a 5-episode Thai BL (boys' love) drama.

Thailand makes a lot of BL dramas (they've made over 100 so far), and a lot of reviews are calling this one the best BL drama ever made. It's rated 9.1 on IMDb and 9.3 on Douban. Some reviews have compared it to Call Me By Your Name.

This is my first BL drama, so I don't know how it compares to others, but I like it so far. The main character is a little bit annoying in the first couple of episodes, but it seems to be getting better, and episode 3 is my favorite so far. It does a good job of subtly showing what the characters are feeling, and the cinematography is good as well.

Here's the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIylNdQuR-w
Looks interesting. imdb lists it as a series, though, and apparently episode 1 of season two premiered a week or so ago. Can't tell if that's factual or not, though. Any idea?
kongs_speech wrote: June 4th, 2021, 4:38 pm Cruella features a secondary gay male character (Artie) and is an extremely queer film in its embrace of camp. I'm also holding out hope that Cruella herself could be a lesbian, as there is absolutely no indicator in the movie of her being interested in dudes. I put it on my Letterboxd list of Pride watches. Does it count here?
Camp is not exclusively queer (though it's rare that it isn't queer), and if it's only a secondary character, I'm hesitant to count it. Knowing Disney, I doubt they're making Cruella a lesbian (yet... maybe in a sequel). I haven't seen it, and doubt I will for this challenge, but I'm leaning toward a 'no' based on available information.
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Fair enough.
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blocho wrote: June 4th, 2021, 5:17 am
Fergenaprido wrote: June 4th, 2021, 4:53 am
blocho wrote: June 4th, 2021, 4:00 am

Not to mention the several references to a gunsel. My Yiddish-speaking father could tell you that gunsel has nothing do with guns.
Err, what does it mean, then?

My dictionary says thus:
gunsel | ˈɡən(t)səl |
noun US informal
a criminal carrying a gun.
ORIGIN
early 20th century (denoting a tramp's young companion): from Yiddish gendzel ‘little goose’, influenced in sense by gun.
Gunsel does mean little goose in Yiddish, but "little goose" in Yiddish was a slang term for a homosexual man. It won't surprise you to learn it was a pejorative term. You can compare it with a similar Yiddish word, feygele, which means "little bird" and has the same slang meaning as gunsel.

Now the story I heard was that gunsel was a term snuck into a hard-boiled novel or movie (I can't remember if it was The Maltese Falcon or another work) by a writer who knew Yiddish. The writer wanted to use an English slang term for homosexual, but the censors didn't allow him. So he used gunsel, thinking that the censors would assume it had something to do with guns, which is exactly what happened. And that's how gunsel became associated with a criminal carrying a gun rather than what the term actually meant.
Now that is some fascinating information. Thanks for sharing!
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Pride month FTW
1. Becoming Julia (2003, Trans, Australia)
2. Identity: In & Beyond the Binary (2015, Queer, USA)
3. Born in Flames (1983, Lesbian, USA)
4. Man 2 Man: A Gay Man's Guide to Finding Love (2011, Gay, USA)
5. Quiet Heroes (2018, Lesbian, USA)
6. When Bette Met Mae (2014, -, USA) 7/10

This was just an interesting concept for a film. In the early '70s, Bette Davis and Mae West met for the first time at a small dinner party. The conversation they had at this party was recorded. This film is a reenactment of that meeting with impersonators, using the original audio. The conversation was interspersed with a bit of historical context/facts so the audience could follow.

I liked it - it was super cool to hear old legends of Hollywood talk about their lives and careers, the business of Hollywood, Hays code, unionization, etc. It's tagged as LGBTQ on various platforms, presumably because they talk about homosexuality, but also because they talk quite a bit about their drag impersonators. Certainly enough LGBTQ content for me to feel comfortable to include it here, but I'm not calling a letter for the bonus challenge because none of them really fit.
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maxwelldeux wrote: June 4th, 2021, 9:49 pmCertainly enough LGBTQ content for me to feel comfortable to include it here, but I'm not calling a letter for the bonus challenge because none of them really fit.
You can use the Q+ letter for cases like this. It's intended as a catchall for everything queer that isn't already covered by L, G, B, or T.
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2. L'uomo che guarda a.k.a. The Voyeur (Tinto Brass, 1994)
The main character is bisexual here. I did see a couple others that included lesbianism in them (The Devil's Nightmare and Malabimba), but I felt it was used more as an exploitation/horror plot device and not really related to any kind of character definition. So those were left out.
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2. L'uomo che guarda a.k.a. The Voyeur (Tinto Brass, 1994)
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1. The celluloid closet (95) - rewatch
:run: STILL the Gaffer!
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That bisexual one was my first erotic/softcore film. I saw it at around 8 years old. It was disgusting haha and probably still remains one of the more disturbing of those.

I now have slightly over 50 relevant movies qued (well, over 40 now).
Ik ben een meisje! (I Am a Girl!) 8/10 - 16min short
9. The Christine Jorgensen Story 5.5/10 - Sex in Cinema check. 153 to bronze on 2014 version. some woman exclaims "he's a queer" in this one.
10. Southern Comfort [2001] 6.5/10 - trans man, docu. watch on YouTube.
11. Romeos (...Anders Als Du Denkst!) 5.5/10 - gay trans man, melodrama
12. Identity: In & Beyond The Binary - 2nd check

random related video from one of the Watch Later playlists
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13. Music To Life's Top 50 Songs For LGBTQ Rights - music videos
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5+4+5+4+3+5+5+5+7+4(Queen)+4=51min +2/3 earlier shorts (+13+16) = 80min
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1. Dear Dad (G 2016 IND) - 6-7ish
2. Benjamin (G 2018 GBR) - 7ish

Dear Dad was very bland and by-the book. I was hoping for a lot more. Father goes on a road trip with his teenage son to drop him off at boarding school, and also to try and come out to him. What should have been a sweet drama had random moments of comedy forcibly inserted into the film that really felt jarring to the overall mood of the film.

Benjamin was very promising, but ultimately fell short. It's only 90 minutes, and the central romance doesn't really get solidified until the 70 minute mark, at which point there's no time to explore or develop that relationship, and strangely the film jumps to other characters. Most of the secondary characters were caricatures, IMO, and pulled the film down from what it could have been. A short seen with Benjamin's ex starts out great, but within 3 minutes the character is reduced to pandering to him, right after brilliantly putting him in his place. It made no sense whatsoever. Still, I do adore Colin Morgan (of Merlin fame), and Phénix Brossard seems to have found his niche (French boyfriend of insecure English boys), so I still liked it overall.
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DudeLanez wrote: June 2nd, 2021, 12:52 am 1. Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters (1985, Schrader) 5/10 - USA / 80s
I'm counting this as G, based on available information online. If it should B instead, let me know, as I haven't seen the film myself.
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Fergenaprido wrote: June 4th, 2021, 9:11 pm Looks interesting. imdb lists it as a series, though, and apparently episode 1 of season two premiered a week or so ago. Can't tell if that's factual or not, though. Any idea?
There are two parts, with 5 episodes each. The first part is called "I Told Sunset About You" and the second part is called "I Promised You the Moon". 2 episodes of the second part have aired so far.
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5. But I’m a Cheerleader (1999) (7/10) Good satire. But maybe one of those things that feels a little too real to joke about? I can’t imagine that people who were actually sent to conversion camps would find this a funny subject for a comedy movie.

Bonus game: I keep watching movies from the 90s and not maximizing my points! All good though: L - 90s - USA
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5. Ah-ga-ssi (2016) - 8/10 - L, South Korea, 2010s
I was really impressed by this movie. It's not an instant favorite but it could evolve. The cinematography, the plot, the editing, everything is clever.

6. Appropriate Behavior (2014) - 6/10 - B, UK
I enjoyed the humor in this romantic comedy, but I had the impression I've already seen this movie. New-yorker jokes, small places to live, weird artists... I liked it, just sometimes it felt a little bit ordinary.
[I put UK as the country, even if it surprised me, UK is the first country on IMDB and it's because it's produced by a british company... but if you consider it should be US, no problem with me ^^]

7. C.R.A.Z.Y. (2005) - 7/10 - Canada, Personal
A really good movie. I've heard about it before, but never watched it, so thanks for suggesting it. I really loved some scenes, especially the heart-breaking scene in the desert while the mother is awake at home. Very funny script sometimes, I loved every jokes about the brothers.
The only real regret with that movie is entirely my fault, because I assumed I wouldn't have problems understanding french-canadian in a movie. But, damn, that was hard, they use a lot of local expressions, words, even grammar + the accent. So I recommend to watch it with subtitles except if you're from Québec. It will be a good reason for me to rewatch it someday with subtitles :D

8. Before Night Falls (2000) - 7/10
Beautiful movie about the Cuban persecutions of homosexuals and potential opponents in general. I didn't know that writer, and the horros he had to go through is insane. Javier Bardem was great in this role. The movie was sometimes a little bit long, and confusing (changes of scene aren't always clear, same for some of the ellipses) but I really enjoyed it.
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LGBT+ : LGBT
Decades : before-60s, 70s, 2000s, 2010s
Countries : USA, Canada
Regions : Europe, Asia-Pacific
Personal : CRAZY
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]
7. Chastity Bites (2013) USA [L]

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Louise Griffiths excels as a mysterious pro-chastity councilor here and her blood-like potion for restoring youth is intriguing, while Allison Scagliotti and an openly lesbian Francia Raisa make for spunky main characters. Alas, the film gets less interesting when it soon reveals that Griffiths is none other than the legendary Elizabeth Bathory. More is dedicated to Scagliotti failing to convince others of the truth than on Bathory in actions. In fact, the gore is minimal.
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Fergenaprido wrote: June 5th, 2021, 2:42 am
DudeLanez wrote: June 2nd, 2021, 12:52 am 1. Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters (1985, Schrader) 5/10 - USA / 80s
I'm counting this as G, based on available information online. If it should B instead, let me know, as I haven't seen the film myself.
It wasn't really an important part of the movie in my opinion. That's why I didn't list it separately. This month I will certainly find even better representatives for both categories. But G is okay. Thanks.
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3. Victim (G, UK, 1961) 8+
seen!
1. Chun gwong cha sit (G, Hong Kong, 1997) Happy Together 8+
2. Appropriate Behavior (B, USA, 2014) 4
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1. The Half of It (2020) * 104 min.

Starts as Cyrano de Bergerac, then goes in a more interesting direction.

*First time viewing.
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Pride month FTW
1. Becoming Julia (2003, Trans, Australia)
2. Identity: In & Beyond the Binary (2015, Queer, USA)
3. Born in Flames (1983, Lesbian, USA)
4. Man 2 Man: A Gay Man's Guide to Finding Love (2011, Gay, USA)
5. Quiet Heroes (2018, Lesbian, USA)
6. When Bette Met Mae (2014, -, USA)
7. Sunday Bloody Sunday (1971, Bisexual, UK) 7/10

Really nice character drama about a professional woman and male doctor both dating the same bisexual man. All the ins and outs of navigating these relationships and the feelings each of them have. Very interesting film.
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1. I Care a Lot (2020 L USA)
There's a great scene in Hud where the title character, played by Paul Newman, perfectly elucidates one of the moral dilemmas of the movie and, more broadly, of American life:
This country is run on epidemics, where you been? Price fixing, crooked TV shows, inflated expense accounts. How many honest men you know? Why you separate the saints from the sinners, you're lucky to wind up with Abraham Lincoln. Now I want out of this spread what I put into it, and I say let us dip our bread into some of that gravy while it is still hot.
Hud was right. The United States is the product of the Bonanza mentality, the New World instinct for the big kill, the get-rich-quick scheme. It's a country of hustles and scams, few of which are more odious than the guardianship grift, which forms the basis of I Care a Lot. This is a real bit of legal corruption that is just as heartbreaking and evil as what's depicted in the movie. It's a topic that more easily lends itself to social drama, but here it instead propels a crime thriller. It's very well directed, with plenty of tension thanks to strong editing and a good score. The performances are top-notch too, especially Rosamund Pike as a character destined to join Nurse Ratched as among the most hated women in movie history. There are lot of fascinating things this movie is doing rather subtly with gender. And ultimately, like many great American crime movies, it's an indictment of American capitalism.

2. C.R.A.Z.Y (2005 G Canada)
I'm a bit of a sucker for coming-of-age stories, and this one is better than most, so I enjoyed it immensely. A young man's coming to terms with his sexuality forms one of the narrative lines, but ultimately this is a story of complicated family dynamics in postwar Quebec.
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14. Hourou Musuko (Wandering Son) 7/10 - 7-12/12 episodes - the transgender anime. surprisingly hard to follow.
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15. TransGeneration - 4/8 episodes watched before realizing it's incomplete on youtube. SOS
16. Memories of a Penitent Heart
17. The Death and Life of Marsha P. Johnson

btw that music video list links to a youtube playlist if anyone wants to watch or listen to something related for hours that won't even give you a point.
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beasterne wrote: June 5th, 2021, 5:01 am 5. But I’m a Cheerleader (1999) (7/10) Good satire. But maybe one of those things that feels a little too real to joke about? I can’t imagine that people who were actually sent to conversion camps would find this a funny subject for a comedy movie.

Bonus game: I keep watching movies from the 90s and not maximizing my points! All good though: L - 90s - USA
6. Boys Don’t Cry (1999) (6/10) - This was a really hard watch.
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multiple sexual assaults are explicitly depicted. I was really caught off guard by this—I knew the film ended with Brandon’s murder, but I had no idea about the rape, or that it was his “friends” who did it. I put off watching Irreversible for years because of the reputation of the rape scene. The scenes in Boys Don’t Cry were just as tough to watch as that one.
Bonus game - T, 90s, USA.

7. The Miseducation of Cameron Post (2018) (4/10) - This movie didn’t work for me. Cameron was too reserved for too long, so long that eventually I just wasn’t able to connect with her. She gave so little in the way of her thoughts or feelings that she wound up coming off as extremely passive and having very little agency. Towards the very end of the movie she started to share a bit more, but by then it was just too late for me.

Bonus game - L, 10s, USA. I’m a little frustrated because this movie was tagged as a bisexual film on google, but I didn’t get bi at all from Cameron or any of the other characters either. Cameron had a boyfriend at the start of the film, and she had one scene where she fantasized about kissing a boy, but didn’t seem that into it. If that’s enough for this to be a B film then I’ll take it.

If it doesn’t count though, does anyone have any recommendations for bi films that are on official lists? I have at least a couple films lined up for all the other categories, but I need more bi films to keep scoring bonus points :)
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blocho wrote: June 5th, 2021, 8:53 pm 1. I Care a Lot (2020 L USA)
There's a great scene in Hud where the title character, played by Paul Newman, perfectly elucidates one of the moral dilemmas of the movie and, more broadly, of American life:
This country is run on epidemics, where you been? Price fixing, crooked TV shows, inflated expense accounts. How many honest men you know? Why you separate the saints from the sinners, you're lucky to wind up with Abraham Lincoln. Now I want out of this spread what I put into it, and I say let us dip our bread into some of that gravy while it is still hot.
Hud was right. The United States is the product of the Bonanza mentality, the New World instinct for the big kill, the get-rich-quick scheme. It's a country of hustles and scams, few of which are more odious than the guardianship grift, which forms the basis of I Care a Lot. This is a real bit of legal corruption that is just as heartbreaking and evil as what's depicted in the movie. It's a topic that more easily lends itself to social drama, but here it instead propels a crime thriller. It's very well directed, with plenty of tension thanks to strong editing and a good score. The performances are top-notch too, especially Rosamund Pike as a character destined to join Nurse Ratched as among the most hated women in movie history. There are lot of fascinating things this movie is doing rather subtly with gender. And ultimately, like many great American crime movies, it's an indictment of American capitalism..
I'm glad you responded well to this one. :thumbsup: It's in my top 5 for 2020, so I'll be talking about it in the upcoming podcast, though it seems to have received a lot of negative reviews in the time since its Golden Globe win.
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]
7. Chastity Bites (2013) USA [L]
8. Chuck & Buck (2000) USA [G]

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Rejecting the sexual advances of a childhood friend, a music executive is stalked and harassed by him in this dark indie comedy. The film mostly does well balancing how creepy and amusing it is by giving the duo equal screen. Where the film really perks up is around halfway in when it comes to light that the pair did more than just play games as kids. This angle never quite feels as daring as it could have been, but this is a movie with nary a boring moment.
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sol wrote: June 6th, 2021, 4:57 am
blocho wrote: June 5th, 2021, 8:53 pm 1. I Care a Lot (2020 L USA)
There's a great scene in Hud where the title character, played by Paul Newman, perfectly elucidates one of the moral dilemmas of the movie and, more broadly, of American life:
This country is run on epidemics, where you been? Price fixing, crooked TV shows, inflated expense accounts. How many honest men you know? Why you separate the saints from the sinners, you're lucky to wind up with Abraham Lincoln. Now I want out of this spread what I put into it, and I say let us dip our bread into some of that gravy while it is still hot.
Hud was right. The United States is the product of the Bonanza mentality, the New World instinct for the big kill, the get-rich-quick scheme. It's a country of hustles and scams, few of which are more odious than the guardianship grift, which forms the basis of I Care a Lot. This is a real bit of legal corruption that is just as heartbreaking and evil as what's depicted in the movie. It's a topic that more easily lends itself to social drama, but here it instead propels a crime thriller. It's very well directed, with plenty of tension thanks to strong editing and a good score. The performances are top-notch too, especially Rosamund Pike as a character destined to join Nurse Ratched as among the most hated women in movie history. There are lot of fascinating things this movie is doing rather subtly with gender. And ultimately, like many great American crime movies, it's an indictment of American capitalism..
I'm glad you responded well to this one. :thumbsup: It's in my top 5 for 2020, so I'll be talking about it in the upcoming podcast, though it seems to have received a lot of negative reviews in the time since its Golden Globe win.
I despised it. :lol:
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beasterne wrote: June 6th, 2021, 4:13 amIf it doesn’t count though, does anyone have any recommendations for bi films that are on official lists? I have at least a couple films lined up for all the other categories, but I need more bi films to keep scoring bonus points :)
Yeah, I didn't get any bi vibes from Cameron either.

For official bisexual films, the following come to mind: Sunday Bloody Sunday, I Don't Want to Sleep Alone, Velvet Goldmine, Appropriate Behavior, Kissing Jessica Stein, The Last of Sheila, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, and Vic + Flo Saw a Bear. My memory may be faulty with some of them, though. Call Me By Your Name, The Man Who Loved Yngve, Arrebato, and Blue Is the Warmest Color have also been considered bi by some, but I think they lean more gay than bi, though it's debatable.

Unofficial but still great: Frida, Undertow, Water Drops on Burning Rocks, The Blond One, and Margarita with a Straw.
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(Screenshots from 'Les équilibristes' & 'Tenshi no rakuen'),

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11. Privilege (Yvonne Rainer, 1990) 8.5/10 (L/Q) (USA)
12. Les équilibristes (Walking a Tightrope, Nikos Papatakis, 1991) 9/10 (G) (France)
13. Okoge (Fag Hag, Takehiro Nakajima, 1992) 8/10 (G) (Japan)
14. Libera (Pappi Corsicato, 1993) 8/10 (T/G) (Italy)
15. Sotvorenie Adama (The Creation of Adam, Yury Pavlov, 1994) 7.5/10 (Q/G/B) (Russia)
16. XX: Utsukushiki hyôteki (Beautiful Target, Naosuke Kurosawa & Toshiharu Ikeda, 1995) 7.5/10 (L) (Japan)
17. Pianese Nunzio, 14 anni a maggio (Sacred Silence, Antonio Capuano, 1996) 7.5/10 (G) (Italy)
18. A ridosso dei ruderi, i Trionfi (Triumph and Ruins, Franco Brocani, 1997) 8/10 (T) (Italy)
19. Bye-Bye Souirty/Adieu forain (Farewell Travelling Player, Daoud Aoulad-Syad, 1998) 7.5/10 (T/G) (Morocco)
20. Tenshi no rakuen (Looking for an Angel, Akihiro Suzuki, 1999) 8/10 (G) (Japan)

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1. Pao dao zhong dian (The End of the Track, Mou Tun-Fei, 1970) 10/10 (G/Q) (Taiwan)
2. Una stagione all'inferno (A Season in Hell, Nelo Risi, 1971) 8/10 (B) (Italy)
3. All About Alice (Ray Harrison, 1972) 7.5/10 (T) (USA)
4. Storia di una monaca di clausura (Story of a Cloistered Nun, Domenico Paolella, 1973) 7.5/10 (L/B) (Italy)
5. Wet Rainbow (Duddy Kane, 1974) 7.5/10 (L/B) (USA)
6. Saturday Night at the Baths (David Buckley, 1975) 7.5/10 (G/B) (USA)
7. Les plaisirs solitaires (Lonely Pleasures, Francis Leroi, 1976) 8.5/10 (L/B) (France)
8. Los claros motivos del deseo (‎The Clear Motives of Desire, Miguel Picazo, 1977) 7.5/10 (G) (Spain)
9. Hoshizora no marionette (Puppets Under Starry Skies, Hôjin Hashiura, 1978) 8/10 (G) (Japan)
10. Hirusagari no onna: chohatsu! (Woman of the Afternoon: Incite!, Nobuyuki Saitô, 1979 8/10 (G) (Japan)
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sol wrote: June 6th, 2021, 4:57 am I'm glad you responded well to this one. :thumbsup: It's in my top 5 for 2020, so I'll be talking about it in the upcoming podcast, though it seems to have received a lot of negative reviews in the time since its Golden Globe win.
I'd be interested in learning what critics didn't like about it. Do you have any sense of what were the most common critiques?
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Fergenaprido wrote:I'm impressed that you've planned to do the every-year and queer challenges in tandem, and that you found a bunch of films I don't think I've heard of. Pao dao zhong dian looks interesting.
That was the original goal, but it will be a busy month at work, not sure how much I'll be able to cover... And some years are already giving me a bit of trouble (1963 in particular - lesser well-known suggestions accepted!). Having the funnest of times though, and the sexiest month of the year so far!

Yes, hope you can track, 'Pao dao zhong dian', an absolute revelation in both Queer Taiwanese representation (I have another one from the 80s lined up), and as a precursor to the Taiwanese New Wave. For those interested there's an informative introduction by film curator/critic Josh Martin, for the Prismatic Taiwan (a Queer Taiwanese selection for the Austin Asian American Film Festival, where the film was screened) -
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9. Shorts [Total runtime : 86 minutes]
- Dyketactics (1974) [4mn]
- Blow Job (1963) [35mn]
- Fireworks (1947) [20mn]
- Holding (1971) [13min]
- Gently Down the Stream (1981) [14mn]

10. Born in Flames (1983) - 1980s - 6/10
I love the idea, but the way of making the movie was confusing to me. I hated the music (I probably deserve the death sentence for that :lol: ), but overall, I liked the movie and the film was more interesting toward the end.

11. The Killing of Sister George (1968) - 1960s - 5/10
A way too long and hysterical movie. If the fact that it's a openly lesbian movie in the 60s is great, the rest... not so much. The behavior of this Sister George, kind of a toxic person, doesn't help to care about what's happening to her.

12. XXY (2007) - Intersex, Argentina - 7/10
Beautiful and simple movie about intersex persons ; between the way the parents chose to raise them until the choices they have to make later and the possibility to not choose one sex. Hard scenes, but necessary, like at the beach with the three boys.

13. Été 85 (2020) - Gay, France, 2020s - 7/10
Recent movie about a passion during summer that ends with a death (it's said in the first minute of the movie). The movie looks a lot like other gay romances (Call me by your name, for ex) with an idyllic landscape, a brief and intense relationship between a teenager and a man barely older. Those elements aside, it was well done, credible, sweet and sad ; in other words : it just works. Honorable mention for the main actor, his performance, and his incredible beauty.

14. Faustrecht der Freiheit (1975) - 7/10
Hard movie to watch past the first half-hour. It's a Fassbinder movie, so I should know better. But NO, I don't. To be brief : I liked the movie, even if it's depressing.
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Decades : before-60s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 2000s, 2010s, 2020s
Countries : USA, Canada, Argentina, France
Regions : Europe, Asia-Pacific
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blocho wrote: June 6th, 2021, 7:25 am
sol wrote: June 6th, 2021, 4:57 am I'm glad you responded well to this one. :thumbsup: It's in my top 5 for 2020, so I'll be talking about it in the upcoming podcast, though it seems to have received a lot of negative reviews in the time since its Golden Globe win.
I'd be interested in learning what critics didn't like about it. Do you have any sense of what were the most common critiques?
Nope. Most of the negative comments seemed a bit random. But maybe it's better for you to ask someone who actually disliked the film:
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]
7. Chastity Bites (2013) USA [L]
8. Chuck & Buck (2000) USA [G]
9. Saint Maud (2019) Britain [L]

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Caring for a lesbian dancer, a palliative care nurse becomes convinced that she needs to save her patient's soul as she looks for a divine purpose in life here. Morfydd Clark is solid in the lead role and the first two thirds of the film work well with the smallest of suggestions that something is not quite right with her. The film's take on the dangers of religious extremism is pretty unsubtle, but everything spirals towards a breathtaking, memorable conclusion.
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Fergenaprido wrote: June 6th, 2021, 5:52 am
beasterne wrote: June 6th, 2021, 4:13 amIf it doesn’t count though, does anyone have any recommendations for bi films that are on official lists? I have at least a couple films lined up for all the other categories, but I need more bi films to keep scoring bonus points :)
Yeah, I didn't get any bi vibes from Cameron either.

For official bisexual films, the following come to mind: Sunday Bloody Sunday, I Don't Want to Sleep Alone, Velvet Goldmine, Appropriate Behavior, Kissing Jessica Stein, The Last of Sheila, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, and Vic + Flo Saw a Bear. My memory may be faulty with some of them, though. Call Me By Your Name, The Man Who Loved Yngve, Arrebato, and Blue Is the Warmest Color have also been considered bi by some, but I think they lean more gay than bi, though it's debatable.

Unofficial but still great: Frida, Undertow, Water Drops on Burning Rocks, The Blond One, and Margarita with a Straw.
I'm hoping for more pan/omnisexual films :rolleyes:

meanwhile an intersex video came up in my watch later so there
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No. 6 6/10 - 11 episodes - same-gender relationship in dystopian anime
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i like the minor attempt to dispel the stigma around open sex (a girl asks a boy to have sex with her). although with the state of society in Nippon this may be less advisable.
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i feel like getting 3 points for this mild nonsexual nonromantic relationship would be too much. altho it's a near 4hr series.
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2. Girl (2018) * 106 min.

I liked the first part, which went into detail about the process of sexual reassignment therapy and ballet training, more than the second part where both veered near to horror territory. Exceptional performances by Victor Polster as Lara and Arieh Worthalter as her father.
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Fergenaprido wrote: June 6th, 2021, 5:52 am
beasterne wrote: June 6th, 2021, 4:13 amIf it doesn’t count though, does anyone have any recommendations for bi films that are on official lists? I have at least a couple films lined up for all the other categories, but I need more bi films to keep scoring bonus points :)
Yeah, I didn't get any bi vibes from Cameron either.

For official bisexual films, the following come to mind: Sunday Bloody Sunday, I Don't Want to Sleep Alone, Velvet Goldmine, Appropriate Behavior, Kissing Jessica Stein, The Last of Sheila, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, and Vic + Flo Saw a Bear. My memory may be faulty with some of them, though. Call Me By Your Name, The Man Who Loved Yngve, Arrebato, and Blue Is the Warmest Color have also been considered bi by some, but I think they lean more gay than bi, though it's debatable.

Unofficial but still great: Frida, Undertow, Water Drops on Burning Rocks, The Blond One, and Margarita with a Straw.
Thank you! Great list.
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Shiva Baby isn't official yet but it's bi as fuck and one of the best films of 2020. Everyone should see it.
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