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28. Stage Mother (2020) - Queer, 2020s - 6/10
A fine movie about a mother that comes to San Francisco after the death of her son, drag-queen and owner of a gay bar, that her and her husband threw away when he came out. Even if there are a lot of issues with the script, some subplots that go nowhere, the lack of romance where it could have been more and the unimpressive drag routines, it was also very moving.
[and with it, I finished the secound round of LGBT+ for the bonus challenge !]

29. Victim (1961) - Gay, 1960s - 7/10
Incredible to think that it's a 1961 movie in a country where homosexuals were sent to prison. The story is intesting, the ending is impressive too. I really liked this one, even if the dialogues are not always on point. I recommand this one if you haven't seen it yet.
[and, in bonus, I finished the secound round of decades for the bonus challenge]

30. Jin nian xia tian (2001) - Lesbian, 2000s - 3/10
The worst movie I've seen so far in this challenge. Almost everything is wrong with it. First, the positive aspect : this is a lesbian movie produced and filmed in China in 2001, the same year China decided to remove homosexuality of their catalogs of mental diseases after decades of persecution and executions. So that movie is important in that way.
But in itself, I had the impression to watch a movie done by a high-school student, the cinematography is awful, the editing too and the dialogues are ridiculous (probably that the acting didn't help with them). Well... I won't insist ^^ That's a shame because you can see that everyone is trying in this movie.

31. Far from Heaven (2002) - 7/10
Another Todd Haynes movie for this challenge. I have the impression he's always giving us a good and professional movie about impossible love. But, here it's kind of the same stuff as Carol (a decade later), with the same era, the same topic. But it was fine and there's something really interesting for me in it, but I'm gonna spoil : it appears that the love between two men was less shocking that the love between a black man and a white woman. Because it's this one, the impossible love. It was beautiful, very interesting, I would have prefer a kiss between Julianne Moore and Dennis Haysbert, but that's really a detail.

32. Calamity Jane (1953) - pre-1960s, Queer - 4/10
That's a movie you can watch easily. From the beginning to the end, you'll be entertained enough. But I didn't care about those musical numbers, the love stories aren't interesting either, and the mysogyny is (of course) present in this old Hollywood movie...
The queer theme is present in several occasions. First, Calamity Jane, of course, who is a masculine girl, almost a man, living among them ; some lines are perceived as "lesbian" even if I don't agree with that. From what I saw, the movie plays with genders. Calamity Jane is in a man outfit, acting like a man, but always talking about the man she loves ; Francis, the NYC actor, forced to be in drag for a show, and Bill, forced to wear woman clothes because he lost a bet. All those moments with "gender inversion" are in fact more like a carnival situation : that inversion is supposed to be temporary so everyone can be, eventually, what they are supposed to be (men are men, women are women). We can see Calamity Jane becoming more and more feminine during the movie (even when she's in men's clothes, after the first half of the movie, she wears make-up).
At least, they try to play with gender (never with sexuality). ^^

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7. Weekend (G, UK, 2011) 8 this was romantic and genuine and I found both main characters totally relatable. Friends that root you like concrete? check. Spent time in foster system? check. Etc.
seen!
1. Chun gwong cha sit (G, Hong Kong, 1997) Happy Together 8+
2. Appropriate Behavior (B, UK, 2014) 4
3. Victim (G, UK, 1961) 8+
4. C.R.A.Z.Y. (G, Canada, 2005) 9
5. Ci qing (L, Taiwan, 2007) Spider Lilies 7
6. Todo sobre mi madre (T, Spain, 1999) All About my Mother 8
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]
7. Chastity Bites (2013) USA [L]
8. Chuck & Buck (2000) USA [G]
9. Saint Maud (2019) Britain [L]
10. The Prom (2020) USA [L]
11. D.E.B.S. (2004) USA [B]
12. Jeffrey (1995) USA [G]
13. Prey (1977) UK [B]
14. Lyle (2014) USA [L]
15. Dead (2020) New Zealand [G]

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Capable of seeing the dead whenever he gets high, a self-described conduit teams up with a cop's ghost to investigate a series of murders of young gay men in this Kiwi horror-comedy. The film gets off to a quirky start and the idea of getting high to see the dead has tons of potential. Alas, things become far more humdrum when the mystery angle ignites with a solution so complicated that the perpetrator has to spend minutes on end explaining things.
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(Screenshots from 'Er Moretto - Von Liebe leben' & 'Kamen no yûwaku'),

The 80s!!!

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21. Immacolata e Concetta, l'altra gelosia (Immacolata and Concetta: The Other Jealousy, Salvatore Piscicelli, 1980) 9/10 (L/B) (Italy)
22. Nessuno è perfetto (Nobody's Perfect, Pasquale Festa Campanile, 1981) 6.5/10 (T) (Italy)
23. Whatever Happened to Susan Jane? (Marc Huestis, 1982) 7.5/10 (T) (USA)
24. Manji (Hiroto Yokoyama, 1983) 7.5/10 (L/B) (Japan)
25. Er Moretto - Von Liebe leben (Er Moretto - Living Off Love, Simon Bischoff, 1984) 8/10 (G/T) (Switzerland)
26. Westler (East of the Wall, Wieland Speck, 1985) 8/10 (G) ((West) Germany)
27. Nie zi (Outcasts, Yu Kan-Ping, 1986) 7.5/10 (G) (Taiwan)
28. Kamen no yûwaku (Temptation of the Mask, Hisayasu Satô, 1987) 8.5/10 (G/B) (Japan)
29. Nawa to otoko-tachi (Rope and Boys, Shûji Kataoka, 1988) 6/10 (G) (Japan)
30. Salut Victor (Bye Bye Victor, Anne Claire Poirier, 1989) 7.5/10 (G) (Canada)

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1. Pao dao zhong dian (The End of the Track, Mou Tun-Fei, 1970) 10/10 (G/Q) (Taiwan)
2. Una stagione all'inferno (A Season in Hell, Nelo Risi, 1971) 8/10 (B) (Italy)
3. All About Alice (Ray Harrison, 1972) 7.5/10 (T) (USA)
4. Storia di una monaca di clausura (Story of a Cloistered Nun, Domenico Paolella, 1973) 7.5/10 (L/B) (Italy)
5. Wet Rainbow (Duddy Kane, 1974) 7.5/10 (L/B) (USA)
6. Saturday Night at the Baths (David Buckley, 1975) 7.5/10 (G/B) (USA)
7. Les plaisirs solitaires (Lonely Pleasures, Francis Leroi, 1976) 8.5/10 (L/B) (France)
8. Los claros motivos del deseo (‎The Clear Motives of Desire, Miguel Picazo, 1977) 7.5/10 (G) (Spain)
9. Hoshizora no marionette (Puppets Under Starry Skies, Hôjin Hashiura, 1978) 8/10 (G) (Japan)
10. Hirusagari no onna: chohatsu! (Woman of the Afternoon: Incite!, Nobuyuki Saitô, 1979 8/10 (G) (Japan)
11. Privilege (Yvonne Rainer, 1990) 8.5/10 (L/Q) (USA)
12. Les équilibristes (Walking a Tightrope, Nikos Papatakis, 1991) 9/10 (G) (France)
13. Okoge (Fag Hag, Takehiro Nakajima, 1992) 8/10 (G) (Japan)
14. Libera (Pappi Corsicato, 1993) 8/10 (T/G) (Italy)
15. Sotvorenie Adama (The Creation of Adam, Yury Pavlov, 1994) 7.5/10 (Q/G/B) (Russia)
16. XX: Utsukushiki hyôteki (Beautiful Target, Naosuke Kurosawa & Toshiharu Ikeda, 1995) 7.5/10 (L) (Japan)
17. Pianese Nunzio, 14 anni a maggio (Sacred Silence, Antonio Capuano, 1996) 7.5/10 (G) (Italy)
18. A ridosso dei ruderi, i Trionfi (Triumph and Ruins, Franco Brocani, 1997) 8/10 (T) (Italy)
19. Bye-Bye Souirty/Adieu forain (Farewell Travelling Player, Daoud Aoulad-Syad, 1998) 7.5/10 (T/G) (Morocco)
20. Tenshi no rakuen (Looking for an Angel, Akihiro Suzuki, 1999) 8/10 (G) (Japan)
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]
7. Chastity Bites (2013) USA [L]
8. Chuck & Buck (2000) USA [G]
9. Saint Maud (2019) Britain [L]
10. The Prom (2020) USA [L]
11. D.E.B.S. (2004) USA [B]
12. Jeffrey (1995) USA [G]
13. Prey (1977) UK [B]
14. Lyle (2014) USA [L]
15. Dead (2020) NZ [G]
16. Spiral (2019) Canada [G]

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This is well directed and amply mysterious with intermittent flashbacks and disorientating touches (characters "teleporting" from one side of him to the other). The film also channels the likes of Rear Window and The Tenant. Alas, the film falls apart when it tries to explain everything and it gets limited mileage out of whether he is losing his mind. It is always clear that he is on to something, which makes it frustrating when he paints over the evidence.
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3. Disclosure (Sam Feder, 2020) - 7/10

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2. Sunday Bloody Sunday (John Schlesinger, 1971) - 7/10
3. Disclosure (Sam Feder, 2020) - 7/10
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10. Gods and Monsters (1998) (8/10) I really enjoyed this film, with one glaring exception—I don’t think Brendan Fraser was up to the task of his role. It was a tricky part to play, and he didn’t quite pull it off. McKellen was fantastic in the role of Jimmy Whale however. And I loved all of the old Hollywood, and how gay it was. The behind the scenes look at Bride of Frankenstein was like something out of a 1930s RPDR challenge.

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11. A Single Man (2009) (7/10) - this was good as well. Firth especially shines as George, a man dealing with the crushing loss of his partner. Unfortunately by the end I’m not sure this movie had a whole lot to say that hasn’t already been said before. Firth and George both deserved better.

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3. The Normal Heart (2014 G USA)
4-7. Angels in America (2003 G USA)

Two reactions to the first decade of the HIV pandemic in America. First, Larry Kramer's autobiographical play of the early years of Gay Men's Health Crisis, adapted by Kramer himself to the screen. Second, Tony Kushner's more phantasmagorical diptych, similarly self-adapted. Both works are theatrical in their dialogue, featuring the sort of lengthy, expository conversation that rarely seem to occur in real life.

The Normal Heart aims for social drama, and the results are sometimes witty and consistently tragic, even if I don't quite buy Mark Ruffalo as the Kramer stand-in (it's possible that no one could play Kramer but Kramer). Even if the script seems schematic in the way that each character gets their own freak-out about the indifference of society, it's all heart-rending stuff.

Angels in America has wit too, though the themes are far broader than The Normal Heart's. The concern here is not just the devastation of AIDS but also philosophies of love and freedom. But the narrative swiftly gets out of hand, with characters and scenes looping around each other in great circles of pointlessness. The dialogue is similar airy nonsense, and multiple scenes left me baffled and bored: What the fuck are they talking about now and why should I care? The two saving graces of this overlong mediocrity are Jeffrey Wright and Al Pacino. Wright has a double role as a gay nurse and an imaginary travel agent, and he's perfect in both. In the past three decades, Pacino hasn't met a single scene he did not want to ham his way through. Well, he finally got a character where that approach was warranted.
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33. High Art (1998) - Bi, 1990s - 4/10
A romance between two women, the first one working on a photography magazine and living with her boyfriend and the second one a photographer that lives next floor with her girlfriend.
The movie is not bad, but I found it quite pedestrian, everything is "meh". The romance is cheap, the girls are attracted to each other and we don't know exactly why, and the rest is quite the same, we never know why. The others caracters are ALL douchebags, probably to valorize the main characters. It was weak but not bad ^^

34. The Celluloid Closet (1995) - 6/10
An interesting documentary about Hollywood and homosexuality that can give you the desire to punch your computer/TV. I regret two things about that documentary : first, it's just Hollywood so only the US ; second, and that's the most important, there is no analysis, no theory, just a succession of movies with brief and factual commentaries by hollywood actors or screenwriters. I wish it was more than what we get, but still, some stories by screenwriters are nice and funny anecdots.

35. Tangerine (2015) - T, 2010s - 6/10
It took me time to appreciate what was on screen. Probably because it took me time to appreciate the camera work and to be "in rythm" with this nervous and yelling movie. The colors of the movie (I guess that's why it's called "Tangerine") are gorgeous and the cast is fine, too. The story seems stupid, but I think that the end reveals that we would be wrong to think that : the friendship in this kind of life, the desperate search for love, etc. A nice movie, really.
[And, with this movie, I finished the third (!) round of LGBT+ bonus]

36. Prick Up Your Ears (1987) - G, 1980s - 6/10
A fine story with a good cast. There is nothing wrong with it, except it's a little bland.
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Decades : [finished] - [second round finished] - [third round] : pre-60s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s
Countries : USA, Canada, Argentina, France, Spain
Regions : Europe, Asia-Pacific
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F, I moved your list of 2100 films to ICM and IMDb. Do you want me to keep it private?

25. Mala Mala - Puerto Rico, T docu
26. Call Her Ganda - Philippines, docu on murder of T and non-"justice" (as if putting someone in prison is somehow justice)
27. Call Me Kuchu - ah, y r u gae: the Uganda doc. also a check on the religious cult list
28. Kiki [2016] - T, director from Sweden
29. Appropriate Behavior 6.5/10 a check on the pansexual list

as I was watching these movies and editing lists, I manually imported three of them from/to the feminist list, that was curious.

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8. Tomboy (Q, France, 2011) 9 (rewatch)
seen!
1. Chun gwong cha sit (G, Hong Kong, 1997) Happy Together 8+
2. Appropriate Behavior (B, UK, 2014) 4
3. Victim (G, UK, 1961) 8+
4. C.R.A.Z.Y. (G, Canada, 2005) 9
5. Ci qing (L, Taiwan, 2007) Spider Lilies 7
6. Todo sobre mi madre (T, Spain, 1999) All About my Mother 8
7. Weekend (G, UK, 2011) 8
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peeptoad wrote: June 11th, 2021, 9:28 am 8. Tomboy (Q, France, 2011) 9 (rewatch)
seen!
1. Chun gwong cha sit (G, Hong Kong, 1997) Happy Together 8+
2. Appropriate Behavior (B, UK, 2014) 4
3. Victim (G, UK, 1961) 8+
4. C.R.A.Z.Y. (G, Canada, 2005) 9
5. Ci qing (L, Taiwan, 2007) Spider Lilies 7
6. Todo sobre mi madre (T, Spain, 1999) All About my Mother 8
7. Weekend (G, UK, 2011) 8
I love Tomboy so fucking much. One of the best childhood films, period. Celine Sciamma understands queer kids so well.
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]
7. Chastity Bites (2013) USA [L]
8. Chuck & Buck (2000) USA [G]
9. Saint Maud (2019) Britain [L]
10. The Prom (2020) USA [L]
11. D.E.B.S. (2004) USA [B]
12. Jeffrey (1995) USA [G]
13. Prey (1977) UK [B]
14. Lyle (2014) USA [L]
15. Dead (2020) NZ [G]
16. Spiral (2019) Canada [G]
17. Pitchfork (2016) USA [G]

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Nervous to return to the farm where he grew up after coming out, a gay man convinces his friends to accompany him, only for them to end up victim to a pitchfork-armed killer in this horror flick. The movie looks superb throughout though with plenty of fog and multi-coloured lighting. The antagonist looks a little silly when seen in close-up, but with face obscured, he is a pretty creepy sight. This isn't great as a gay acceptance film, but as a slasher it is okay.
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kongs_speech wrote: June 11th, 2021, 11:52 am
peeptoad wrote: June 11th, 2021, 9:28 am 8. Tomboy (Q, France, 2011) 9 (rewatch)
seen!
1. Chun gwong cha sit (G, Hong Kong, 1997) Happy Together 8+
2. Appropriate Behavior (B, UK, 2014) 4
3. Victim (G, UK, 1961) 8+
4. C.R.A.Z.Y. (G, Canada, 2005) 9
5. Ci qing (L, Taiwan, 2007) Spider Lilies 7
6. Todo sobre mi madre (T, Spain, 1999) All About my Mother 8
7. Weekend (G, UK, 2011) 8
I love Tomboy so fucking much. One of the best childhood films, period. Celine Sciamma understands queer kids so well.
Agree, though I wouldn't limit it to queer kids. I identify strongly with the main character. Aside from actually pretending to be a boy I was very much like the character at that age, until I went through puberty. I dressed like a boy, refused to wear dresses, hated playing with "girl toys", played sports, played with boys instead of girls, etc. etc. etc. Part of the reason I love this film is it applies to different demographics equally whether gay, straight, bi, trans it's a very relatable experience in early life. Imo.
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01) For Lucio (2021, Pietro Marcello) - 3.5/5
02) Born in Flames (1983, Lizzie Borden) - 3.5/5
03) Happy Together (1997, Wong Kar-wai) - 4.5/5
04) Senorita (2011, Isabel Sandoval) - 4.5/5
05) Down and Out in Beverly Hills (1985, Paul Mazursky) - 4/5

The son in Down and Out in Beverly Hills is queer and the film portrays him positively. He is only a supporting character, but his father learning to accept him is a subplot of the film and I think the novelty of such a depiction at the time is definitely noteworthy enough for it to count. Let me know if there is an objection, but unlike the other films I asked about, this one seems fairly clear-cut to me. Also, very funny and insightful film dealing with classism. It's a riff on Boudu Saved from Drowning, which I haven't seen, but it stood out to me as bearing notable similarities to Teorema.
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]
7. Chastity Bites (2013) USA [L]
8. Chuck & Buck (2000) USA [G]
9. Saint Maud (2019) Britain [L]
10. The Prom (2020) USA [L]
11. D.E.B.S. (2004) USA [B]
12. Jeffrey (1995) USA [G]
13. Prey (1977) UK [B]
14. Lyle (2014) USA [L]
15. Dead (2020) NZ [G]
16. Spiral (2019) Canada [G]
17. Pitchfork (2016) USA [G]
18. Grandma (2015) USA [L]

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As per the title, this is always more of a film about Lily Tomlin than Julian Garner as the granddaughter - which is mostly a positive since Tomlin really delivers, mixing bitterness, assertiveness and humour. She also has some great scenes with Sam Elliott and Marcia Gay Harden, both also in strong form. The lack of focus on the granddaughter does not quite feel right though (her abortion becomes a mere catalyst). This is however still very engaging stuff.
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Armoreska wrote: June 11th, 2021, 8:48 am F, I moved your list of 2100 films to ICM and IMDb. Do you want me to keep it private?
That's up to you, I don't mind either way, as long as you include the source link somewhere. Is this what you meant by keeping my list private earlier?
I don't know how regularly I will update the sheet, though.
kongs_speech wrote: June 11th, 2021, 2:05 pm 05) Down and Out in Beverly Hills (1985, Paul Mazursky) - 4/5

The son in Down and Out in Beverly Hills is queer and the film portrays him positively. He is only a supporting character, but his father learning to accept him is a subplot of the film and I think the novelty of such a depiction at the time is definitely noteworthy enough for it to count. Let me know if there is an objection, but unlike the other films I asked about, this one seems fairly clear-cut to me. Also, very funny and insightful film dealing with classism. It's a riff on Boudu Saved from Drowning, which I haven't seen, but it stood out to me as bearing notable similarities to Teorema.
Sounds fair to me; I'll take your word for it.
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peeptoad wrote: June 11th, 2021, 1:19 pm
kongs_speech wrote: June 11th, 2021, 11:52 am
peeptoad wrote: June 11th, 2021, 9:28 am 8. Tomboy (Q, France, 2011) 9 (rewatch)
seen!
1. Chun gwong cha sit (G, Hong Kong, 1997) Happy Together 8+
2. Appropriate Behavior (B, UK, 2014) 4
3. Victim (G, UK, 1961) 8+
4. C.R.A.Z.Y. (G, Canada, 2005) 9
5. Ci qing (L, Taiwan, 2007) Spider Lilies 7
6. Todo sobre mi madre (T, Spain, 1999) All About my Mother 8
7. Weekend (G, UK, 2011) 8
I love Tomboy so fucking much. One of the best childhood films, period. Celine Sciamma understands queer kids so well.
Agree, though I wouldn't limit it to queer kids. I identify strongly with the main character. Aside from actually pretending to be a boy I was very much like the character at that age, until I went through puberty. I dressed like a boy, refused to wear dresses, hated playing with "girl toys", played sports, played with boys instead of girls, etc. etc. etc. Part of the reason I love this film is it applies to different demographics equally whether gay, straight, bi, trans it's a very relatable experience in early life. Imo.
Right? Agreed. So many moments of awkwardness that made me feel that age again.
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Pride month FTW
1. Becoming Julia (2003, Trans, Australia)
2. Identity: In & Beyond the Binary (2015, Queer, USA)
3. Born in Flames (1983, Lesbian, USA)
4. Man 2 Man: A Gay Man's Guide to Finding Love (2011, Gay, USA)
5. Quiet Heroes (2018, Lesbian, USA)
6. When Bette Met Mae (2014, -, USA)
7. Sunday Bloody Sunday (1971, Bisexual, UK)
8. C.R.A.Z.Y. (2005, Gay, Canada)
9. The Fall of '55 (2006, Gay, USA)
10. The Queen (1968, Queer, USA)
11. Desert Hearts (1985, Bisexual, USA)
12. Tomboy (2011, Queer, France)
13. Laerte-se (2017, Trans, Brazil)
14. But I'm a Cheerleader (1999, Lesbian, USA)
15. TransMilitary (2018, Trans, USA)
16. Queers in the Kingdom: Let Your Light Shine (2014, Queer, USA)
17. The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant (1972, Bisexual, Germany)
18. Blue (1993, Gay, UK) 4/10

Not my thing. I would have appreciated it more in a cafe during a poetry reading, but not as a film like this.
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maxwelldeux wrote: June 11th, 2021, 9:35 pm
Pride month FTW
1. Becoming Julia (2003, Trans, Australia)
2. Identity: In & Beyond the Binary (2015, Queer, USA)
3. Born in Flames (1983, Lesbian, USA)
4. Man 2 Man: A Gay Man's Guide to Finding Love (2011, Gay, USA)
5. Quiet Heroes (2018, Lesbian, USA)
6. When Bette Met Mae (2014, -, USA)
7. Sunday Bloody Sunday (1971, Bisexual, UK)
8. C.R.A.Z.Y. (2005, Gay, Canada)
9. The Fall of '55 (2006, Gay, USA)
10. The Queen (1968, Queer, USA)
11. Desert Hearts (1985, Bisexual, USA)
12. Tomboy (2011, Queer, France)
13. Laerte-se (2017, Trans, Brazil)
14. But I'm a Cheerleader (1999, Lesbian, USA)
15. TransMilitary (2018, Trans, USA)
16. Queers in the Kingdom: Let Your Light Shine (2014, Queer, USA)
17. The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant (1972, Bisexual, Germany)
18. Blue (1993, Gay, UK) 4/10

Not my thing. I would have appreciated it more in a cafe during a poetry reading, but not as a film like this.
That's a super easy 5/5 for me, but I can understand not enjoying it due to how experimental it is. That avant-garde shit is my bag. I found Jarman's message extremely powerful.
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kongs_speech wrote: June 11th, 2021, 9:46 pm
maxwelldeux wrote: June 11th, 2021, 9:35 pm
Pride month FTW
1. Becoming Julia (2003, Trans, Australia)
2. Identity: In & Beyond the Binary (2015, Queer, USA)
3. Born in Flames (1983, Lesbian, USA)
4. Man 2 Man: A Gay Man's Guide to Finding Love (2011, Gay, USA)
5. Quiet Heroes (2018, Lesbian, USA)
6. When Bette Met Mae (2014, -, USA)
7. Sunday Bloody Sunday (1971, Bisexual, UK)
8. C.R.A.Z.Y. (2005, Gay, Canada)
9. The Fall of '55 (2006, Gay, USA)
10. The Queen (1968, Queer, USA)
11. Desert Hearts (1985, Bisexual, USA)
12. Tomboy (2011, Queer, France)
13. Laerte-se (2017, Trans, Brazil)
14. But I'm a Cheerleader (1999, Lesbian, USA)
15. TransMilitary (2018, Trans, USA)
16. Queers in the Kingdom: Let Your Light Shine (2014, Queer, USA)
17. The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant (1972, Bisexual, Germany)
18. Blue (1993, Gay, UK) 4/10

Not my thing. I would have appreciated it more in a cafe during a poetry reading, but not as a film like this.
That's a super easy 5/5 for me, but I can understand not enjoying it due to how experimental it is. That avant-garde shit is my bag. I found Jarman's message extremely powerful.
Yeah, I'm not really into experimental stuff. Good message, I just didn't get film as the right medium for it. :cheers:
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Fergenaprido wrote: June 11th, 2021, 9:23 pm
Armoreska wrote: June 11th, 2021, 8:48 am F, I moved your list of 2100 films to ICM and IMDb. Do you want me to keep it private?
That's up to you, I don't mind either way, as long as you include the source link somewhere.
link to the spreadsheet? alrighty then.
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30. Yo Imposible (Being Impossible) 7/10 very IS! 2nd chec!! Vuvuzela-Colombia check!!!! slow film
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31. Circus Of Books - doc about a typical video store. nothing to see here, move along
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small album (not really a spoiler)
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32. Angrarna (Regretters) - ah detransition. TERFs love this topic and sure enough they left their dogwhistles in the imdb keywords section. this is mostly just a discussion btwn 2 detransitioners. but not without action.
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33. Different for Girls 7.5/10 T, lighter drama. problem was I knew the actress was a man i recognize.
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Armoreska wrote: June 11th, 2021, 11:06 pm
Fergenaprido wrote: June 11th, 2021, 9:23 pm
Armoreska wrote: June 11th, 2021, 8:48 am F, I moved your list of 2100 films to ICM and IMDb. Do you want me to keep it private?
That's up to you, I don't mind either way, as long as you include the source link somewhere.
link to the spreadsheet? alrighty then.
here it is public
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/rank ... armoreska/
Cool. What does GSSRM stand for?

Also, you realize that not all the films are in at least one list, right? Only the first 940 films are.
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]
7. Chastity Bites (2013) USA [L]
8. Chuck & Buck (2000) USA [G]
9. Saint Maud (2019) Britain [L]
10. The Prom (2020) USA [L]
11. D.E.B.S. (2004) USA [B]
12. Jeffrey (1995) USA [G]
13. Prey (1977) UK [B]
14. Lyle (2014) USA [L]
15. Dead (2020) NZ [G]
16. Spiral (2019) Canada [G]
17. Pitchfork (2016) USA [G]
18. Grandma (2015) USA [L]
19. Stud Life (2012) UK [Q]

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Madly in love with her new girlfriend, a wedding photographer becomes conflicted when asked to choose between her lover and her gay best friend in this British indie drama. The basic plot is not especially remarkable, but T'Nia Miller is very solid in the lead role and while the way the film is spliced around her vlog does not always work, she gets some very intimate moments. Indeed, this is a movie more of interest for representation than its story.

Counting this as Queer since the two main characters are separately lesbian and gay and the film skirts around a whole lot of LGBTIQ+ issues.
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37. The Duke of Burgundy (2014) - L - 5/10
Despite some great stuff, like the cinematography and the sound, I found that movie long and not very interesting. The lack of desire and erotism, the bugs (I'm still not sure why the entomologism) didn't help me to appreciate this movie, same for the plot in general. I liked, around the end, a more profound expression of their feelings (we could approach them before, but at the end, it was moving).

38. The Terence Davies Trilogy (1983) - 4/10
I didn't like it. It looks way older than it is, the stories were not great. Sometimes, raw sounds (cries, for example) and extreme images out of nowhere gave another dimension to the film. But overall, not a fan ^^

39. The Kids Are All Right (2010) - 7/10
A really nice, simple yet profound story. I really liked how the character played by Mark Ruffalo evolves in the heart of the viewers during the film, same with Nic. Simple, human, effective and relatable.

40. Young Soul Rebels (1991) - 5/10
A huge "meh". It's not bad, I liked how they tried to create an atmosphere with the soul radio + a murder to resolve.

That BFI list is something... I understand it's the British Film Institute, but there are so many british movies... and american too.
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Fergenaprido wrote: June 11th, 2021, 11:30 pm
Armoreska wrote: June 11th, 2021, 11:06 pm
Fergenaprido wrote: June 11th, 2021, 9:23 pm

That's up to you, I don't mind either way, as long as you include the source link somewhere.
link to the spreadsheet? alrighty then.
here it is public
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/rank ... armoreska/
Cool. What does GSSRM stand for?

Also, you realize that not all the films are in at least one list, right? Only the first 940 films are.
Sure, I do need to specify it i guess... done, also moved a few films you really hated that are also low on IMDb to the bottom.

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simple acronym for relevant axes instead of identities which has become either unwieldy or otherizing/discriminatory to "subQ"
https://lgbta.wikia.org/wiki/GSRM
with the missing letter added for interSex

think i discovered it in reddit's descrip or maybe earlier
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34. Breakfast with Scot 6/10 another light film
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2. Mädchen in Uniform (Géza von Radványi, 1958) 7
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9. North of Vortex (B, UK, 1991) 5
10. Pixote (Q, Brazil, 1981) 8+
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1. Chun gwong cha sit (G, Hong Kong, 1997) Happy Together 8+
2. Appropriate Behavior (B, UK, 2014) 4
3. Victim (G, UK, 1961) 8+
4. C.R.A.Z.Y. (G, Canada, 2005) 9
5. Ci qing (L, Taiwan, 2007) Spider Lilies 7
6. Todo sobre mi madre (T, Spain, 1999) All About my Mother 8
7. Weekend (G, UK, 2011) 8
8. Tomboy (Q, France, 2011) 9 (rewatch)
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01. 3.0* - Your Name Engraved Herein [Ke Zai Wo Xin Di De Ming Zi] by Kuang-Hui Liu

A modern Happy Together. Wong Kar-Wai's coming of age drama has become a landmark film for Asian LGBT+ communities, it's a small miracle that it took this long for a film to challenge its status. Kuang-Hui Liu delivers a pretty brave attempt, though his film doesn't really rise above many of its peer. Jia-han and Birdy are two boys who discover they are attracted to each other. The film is set in late 80s Taiwan, and gay relationships weren't socially acceptable back then. Still, the boys can't deny their love for each other and decide to go for it anyway, facing the social stigma head on. For a film that's about challenging the status quo, it colors neatly inside the lines. Most of the drama is centered around the two boys discovering their sexuality, mixed with the usual coming of age issues. Performances are decent, the cinematography makes a positive impact in the first hour, but the drama is just a little too by the numbers to make a real impact.
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I wish I had more time to watch queer films this month, but it's just such a huge festival month. Fortunately, every month is queer for me. :D
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]
7. Chastity Bites (2013) USA [L]
8. Chuck & Buck (2000) USA [G]
9. Saint Maud (2019) Britain [L]
10. The Prom (2020) USA [L]
11. D.E.B.S. (2004) USA [B]
12. Jeffrey (1995) USA [G]
13. Prey (1977) UK [B]
14. Lyle (2014) USA [L]
15. Dead (2020) NZ [G]
16. Spiral (2019) Canada [G]
17. Pitchfork (2016) USA [G]
18. Grandma (2015) USA [L]
19. Stud Life (2012) UK [Q]
20. Hellbent (2004) USA [G]

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There is not a lot going on here plot-wise; we never find out who the killer is or why he targets gay men, and none of the friends are well developed. The gay representation is really refreshing though in a film that makes it a complete non-issue. The movie also looks really good with lots of neon lighting (see above), several neat shadowy shots and the initial killing is very well done. The nasty eye stuff as per the film's promotional artwork happens too.
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Prat wrote: June 12th, 2021, 8:00 am That BFI list is something... I understand it's the British Film Institute, but there are so many british movies... and american too.
Haha, agreed. I wasn't too happy about it when it was first adopted, but it's grown on my over time. Every queer list I've come across has some questionable inclusions, though. I think I still slightly prefer the Advocate's list.
Armoreska wrote: June 12th, 2021, 9:29 am
Fergenaprido wrote: June 11th, 2021, 11:30 pm Cool. What does GSSRM stand for?

Also, you realize that not all the films are in at least one list, right? Only the first 940 films are.
Sure, I do need to specify it i guess... done, also moved a few films you really hated that are also low on IMDb to the bottom.

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https://lgbta.wikia.org/wiki/GSRM
with the missing letter added for interSex
Ahh, okay, thanks. Yeah, I only heard of GSRM for the first time last year.
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]
7. Chastity Bites (2013) USA [L]
8. Chuck & Buck (2000) USA [G]
9. Saint Maud (2019) Britain [L]
10. The Prom (2020) USA [L]
11. D.E.B.S. (2004) USA [B]
12. Jeffrey (1995) USA [G]
13. Prey (1977) UK [B]
14. Lyle (2014) USA [L]
15. Dead (2020) NZ [G]
16. Spiral (2019) Canada [G]
17. Pitchfork (2016) USA [G]
18. Grandma (2015) USA [L]
19. Stud Life (2012) UK [Q]
20. Hellbent (2004) USA [G]
21. S&M Sally (2015) USA [Q]

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A lesbian couple experiment with BDSM while their friends try polyamory in this American indie comedy. The cutting between the parallel plots does not always work, but both tales are interesting on their own though with all concerned in fine form. The BDSM angle works a bit better than the threesome one with director Michelle Ehle providing a vibrant but always down-to-earth turn as a butch lesbian whose status is challenged by her partner's love of sadism.

Couting this as [Q]ueer for tackling a range of queer issues (it's equally about gays, lesbians and bi/pansexuality/"sexual fluidity").
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]
7. Chastity Bites (2013) USA [L]
8. Chuck & Buck (2000) USA [G]
9. Saint Maud (2019) Britain [L]
10. The Prom (2020) USA [L]
11. D.E.B.S. (2004) USA [B]
12. Jeffrey (1995) USA [G]
13. Prey (1977) UK [B]
14. Lyle (2014) USA [L]
15. Dead (2020) NZ [G]
16. Spiral (2019) Canada [G]
17. Pitchfork (2016) USA [G]
18. Grandma (2015) USA [L]
19. Stud Life (2012) UK [Q]
20. Hellbent (2004) USA [G]
21. S&M Sally (2015) USA [Q]
22. Triggered (2019) USA [Q]

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This gets off to an excellent start, focused on a pansexual justice warrior's tirades over the most trivial of things, exaggerating all perceived bigotry. The film then gets a bit of Scream 4 vibe as she and her gay friend stage a serial killer attack, which gives way to some social media fame satire. Things fall apart a bit in the final 20 minutes as the movie goes down a slasher route that emphasises thrills and chills, but everything looks great, bathed in neon.

Couting this as [Q]ueer for tackling a range of queer issues (pansexuality/homosexuality/transgenderism).
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4. But I'm a Cheerleader (1999) * 85 min.

I don't usually like this sort of over the top satire, but this movie worked for me. Even though almost all the characters (and the colors) were highly exaggerated, the actors communicated real feeling, and the serious message and a few good laughs came through.
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41. Desert Hearts (1985) - 7/10
A beautiful romance. Simple, compelling, not artificial. I liked it !

42. Edward II (1991) - 7/10
During the first half of the film, I was blown away. Then, it started to feel obscure, and I wasn't sure about what was going on with the plot. Nonetheless, I feel attracted to this piece of art !

43. Fucking Åmål (1998) - 7/10
Another beautiful romance, in a naturalistic way, here. I really liked the simplicity put into this film, including the cinematography. Just teenagers, as fucked up in Sweden as they are elsewhere.

44. The Boys in the Band (2020) - 2020s - 5/10
It's a remake of a play and a movie and even if I never saw any of them, I recognize some quotes (from The Celluloid Closet), but I don't know how identical is it to the original. The beginning is fun and then it's more like a horror film. I still don't understand why they make the calls or why they're all acting like that. Not a fan at all of this movie.

45. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (2001) - T - 7/10
That was insane ! In a good way. The music is awesome, some parts are crazy, the ending is quite obscure. I loved the inventiveness and I'm really curious about that filmmaker, now.
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]
7. Chastity Bites (2013) USA [L]
8. Chuck & Buck (2000) USA [G]
9. Saint Maud (2019) Britain [L]
10. The Prom (2020) USA [L]
11. D.E.B.S. (2004) USA [B]
12. Jeffrey (1995) USA [G]
13. Prey (1977) UK [B]
14. Lyle (2014) USA [L]
15. Dead (2020) NZ [G]
16. Spiral (2019) Canada [G]
17. Pitchfork (2016) USA [G]
18. Grandma (2015) USA [L]
19. Stud Life (2012) UK [Q]
20. Hellbent (2004) USA [G]
21. S&M Sally (2015) USA [Q]
22. Triggered (2019) USA [Q]
23. Liquid Sky (1982) USA [T]

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This has a pretty nifty premise (aliens craving hormones released during sex) and the film has a great climax in which youths debate and dismiss the idea that having sex could be fatal. The majority of the movie though is hard to get a grip on. None of the characters are especially interesting and their earthly dilemmas and spying on each etc is dull. The film does have some pretty great visuals though, with lots of neon signs, striking costumes and inverted hues.

Couting this as [T]rans since the film appears on some transgender lists that I came across (and I need the extra bonus points) though dunno if the lead is meant to be a lesbian who enjoys dressing like a man or a trans man.
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1. Shiva Baby (Emma Seligman, B, 2020, USA) - 6.5/10
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LGBTIQQAAP in Film
1. The Mitchells vs. the Machines (2021) USA [L]
2. What Keeps You Alive (2018) Canada [L]
3. Out at the Wedding (2007) USA [Q]
4. Enter the Phoenix (2004) Hong Kong [G]
5. The Iron Ladies (2000) Thailand [T]
6. The Old Guard (2020) USA [G]
7. Chastity Bites (2013) USA [L]
8. Chuck & Buck (2000) USA [G]
9. Saint Maud (2019) UK [L]
10. The Prom (2020) USA [L]
11. D.E.B.S. (2004) USA [B]
12. Jeffrey (1995) USA [G]
13. Prey (1977) UK [B]
14. Lyle (2014) USA [L]
15. Dead (2020) NZ [G]
16. Spiral (2019) Canada [G]
17. Pitchfork (2016) USA [G]
18. Grandma (2015) USA [L]
19. Stud Life (2012) UK [Q]
20. Hellbent (2004) USA [G]
21. S&M Sally (2015) USA [Q]
22. Triggered (2019) USA [Q]
23. Liquid Sky (1982) USA [T]
24. The Quiet (2005) USA [L]

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Moving in with her godparents after her widower father's death, a deaf-mute teenager struggles with what to do when she learns of a murder plan in this twisty little thriller. The film is not quite as riveting as such a plot description might make it sound, but there are enough mysterious bits and pieces to keep things chugging along. Camilla Belle shines in the lead role, amply using her eyes in lieu of words. She is also supported well by Elisha Cuthbert.
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4. The New Mutants (Josh Boone, 2020) - 5/10
5. What Keeps You Alive (Colin Minihan, 2018) - 7/10

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1. Head On (Ana Kokkinos, 1998) - 6/10
2. Sunday Bloody Sunday (John Schlesinger, 1971) - 7/10
3. Disclosure (Sam Feder, 2020) - 7/10
4. The New Mutants (Josh Boone, 2020) - 5/10
5. What Keeps You Alive (Colin Minihan, 2018) - 7/10
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