PeacefulAnarchy wrote: ↑November 22nd, 2020, 4:04 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote: ↑November 22nd, 2020, 2:32 pm
I don’t see how that’s easier. When I f.e. watched a 7m, 28m and 43m shorts I would first have to look up for how much they count, instead of easily adding 7+28+43=78 minutes.
Or do people actually also count seconds when adding runtimes?
To avoid the pain of adding for series we could also do a season = x points. A point per season will be very disadvantage for series compared to movies. But based on the average amount of episode and average total run time we could decide how much it should be worth.
There are only 4 categories, it wouldn't be that hard to keep track. How long is my 22:27 episode with the end of the credits that no one watches cut off? What if I watch it on a different service that cuts off the credits completely and is 21:15? Or on one that has the full credits and a site specific intro making it 23:30? Do those 2 minute episode recaps at the beginning of a lot of episodes count as part of the runtime even though I skip them because I just watched the damn episode they're recapping 5 minutes ago?
Just simply round it off. So that episode counts as 22 or 23 minutes. Choose one, who cares? All others examples are so petty, I'm not going to even address them. Just pick the run time that's listed in a source like IMDb, iCM, wikipedia, Netflix or your dvd box. Who cares if maybe it was a minute longer or shorter with or without credits and intro logo's?! It's a voluntary game on a internet forum, not the Olympics! Let's not get anal about this.
What about the many silent shorts that are sped up or slowed down and have dozens of different runtimes. You might say "just look at the runtime of what you watched" but a lot of files/clips have extended intros or outros or blank space. I could watch the exact same thing but uploaded by a different person on youtube and now it's 1 or 2 minutes longer/shorter.
Again honestly do we really care if a short on some sources are maybe a (few) minutes longer than on others? I don't. But I wil give you that if indeed everyone is that anal about possible small differences between sources your system is fairer.
I chose those runtimes for the categories because it makes the most common episode lengths (and short lengths) fall clearly in one category and reduces this. Maybe this is just my own thing where when I did watch shorts I'd feel compelled to plan around them so that they would add close to what the limit was because if you need 90 minutes of shorts and I watched two 40 minute ones then I'd rather find a 10-15 minute one to cap off than a 3rd 40 minute one and "waste" 30 mins. Not a big deal if you're only watching one batch of shorts, but if you're watching a lot then it feels like you're penalized for not planning out the efficiency of your short (or rewarded for being nitpicky and planning out the runtimes of your viewings). And yes I know that the time spent planning out short runtimes is more than the time spent just watching an extra short to make it not matter.
No I do that too. But apparently aren't as upset as you when that means I have a few minutes leftover, cause a short was 28 minutes instead of the 22 I need f.e.
A season is a completely arbitrary thing that can be anywhere from 6 to 30+ episodes. Even if you make an analogy to films of different lengths there is much more variability here than with movies.
That's why I suggested if we could find an average episode and run time for series. It was an idea to discuss. Not completely worked out. Maybe this system would have been much easier 10 years ago when there was much more consistency in amount of episode per season (at least for American tv). Now it's indeed much more arbitrary and harder to define.
You could simplify my proposal to only apply to TV episodes and say 3(or 4) 20-35 min count as one movie and 2 (or 3) 35-50 episodes count as another and anything longer counts as 1.
Another completely different option to consider is, if you say 90 mins is one entry then add up all episodes and shorts and divide by 90 at the end, instead of forcing each batch to fit in a 90 minute group. This lets you just add the runtimes, which you think is easier than runtime categories, but minimizes the fiddlyness of having to order your short/episode viewings just-so to maximize their worth.
Not against these ideas. Only downside is that people will mostly list episodes and shorts at the end of the challenge, diminishing the shared viewing aspect during a challenge.
We could also let people carry over leftover runtimes from one batch to the next, so it also minimizes the fiddlyness of having to order your short/episode viewings just-so to maximize their worth.