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2021 Challenges: Voting for 2021 Options

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For anyone who has not been following the threads that I have posted over the past four weeks, we are trying something new with the voting progress for 2021 Challenges this year: private message voting.

It is hoped that this will encourage participants to vote for options that they actually want to see run in 2021 rather than just options that they see as doing well. With this in mind, I would request that you do not use this thread to list which options you have voted for. Once voting has closed, I will publish a list of who voted for which options, which can then be discussed if the interest is there to do so.

33 options have progressed to the final ballot, of which we will be looking for the 16 best performing options to be placed into the 2021 schedule. Over 50% of the options on the final ballot were not run this year, and several of them are ideas that have never been run as an Official Challenge before.

Private message voting also gives us the ability to allow power voting, which cannot be done with an open poll.

You will be able to award 3 points to one option, 2 points to three options, and 1 point to remaining twelve options. You do not have to vote for sixteen options - you can vote for less. Please make it clear which options (if any) you want to power vote. Your ballot might look like this:

Option A - 3
Option B - 2
Option C - 2
Option D - 2
Option E - 1
Option F - 1
Option G - 1
etc

Once I have collected an adequate sample size of ballots, I will begin posting regular anonymous updates of which options are performing best.

Your name will be listed as a "thanks for voting" in the anonymous update so that you can be sure that I have included your vote.

What the anonymous updates will look like:
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Thanks to the following 5 voters!

icm-checkwhore
new-user
sol
user1
user-2

Best performing options so far:

Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
New Challenge Idea
New Challenge Idea
Repeat 2018 Challenge Idea
etc

DEADLINE FOR VOTING: Friday October 9 @ 11:59pm GMT (Saturday 7:59am AWST)

It is possible that I might not be awake at 7:59am, so I will accept ballots until I log in on Saturday, but I suggest not waiting until the last minute.

So, without further ado:

Please send me a private message with up to 16 of these options that you would like to see run as an Official Challenge in 2021:

0 Official Lists / Unofficial
1000<400
1930s
1940s
1950s
1960s
1970s
1980s
1990s
Academy Award nominees
Action and Adventure
Animation
Blaxploitation/African American
Comedy
Conquer/Travel the World
Crime films
Criterion and Masters of Cinema
Doubing the Canon nominees
Experimental/Avant-Garde
In Competition at Cannes
LGBTIQ+/Queer
Long Films (over 135mins)
Low IMDb rating
Martial Arts
Musical
Mystery/Thriller
One Film From Each iCM List
One Film From Each Year
Run the Actor
Run the Director
TSPDT + TSPDT 21st Century
War
Waves from around the world

Note: These options are currently permanent and therefore will be automatically placed into the 2021 schedule without being voted on: Directed by Women, Documentary, Film Noir, Horror, Sci-Fi/Fantasy, Silent Era, Under 400 Checks, Western.
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12 hours in - first update :party:

Thanks to all the voters so far!

72aicm
blueboybob
hurluberlu
Lilarcor
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These are the options that have the most points at the moment:

1. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
2. Brand New Challenge Idea
2. Brand New Challenge Idea
2. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
2. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
6. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea

I will post the next update in around 24 hours time or when I receive another 5 votes - whichever comes first.
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36 hours in - second update :party:

Thanks to all the voters so far! (8)

72aicm
blocho
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hurluberlu
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Lonewolf2003
peeptoad
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These are the options that have the most points at the moment:

1. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
2. Brand New Challenge Idea
2. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
4. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
5. Brand New Challenge Idea
5. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
5. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
5. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
9. Brand New Challenge Idea
9. Brand New Challenge Idea
9. Brand New Challenge Idea
9. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea

I will post the next update in around 24 hours time or when I receive another 4 votes - whichever comes first.
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Would someone explain "Waves from around the world" to me? Is it French New Wave, Australian New Wave, Brazilian New Wave, etc?
Last edited by 3eyes on September 29th, 2020, 2:00 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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3eyes wrote: September 29th, 2020, 1:52 pm Would someone explain "Waves from around the world" to me? Is it French New Wave, Australian New Wave, Brazilian New Wave, etc?
Yeah I believe so.
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3eyes wrote: September 29th, 2020, 1:52 pm Would someone explain "Waves from around the world" to me? Is it French New Wave, Australian New Wave, Brazilian New Wave, etc?
I think so:
St. Gloede wrote: September 6th, 2020, 10:16 pm Waves From Around The World would also be interesting, allowing people to zoom in on specific movements/periods from around the world, but which are still (typically) quite connected.
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peeptoad wrote: September 29th, 2020, 1:56 pm
3eyes wrote: September 29th, 2020, 1:52 pm Would someone explain "Waves from around the world" to me? Is it French New Wave, Australian New Wave, Brazilian New Wave, etc?
I think so:
St. Gloede wrote: September 6th, 2020, 10:16 pm Waves From Around The World would also be interesting, allowing people to zoom in on specific movements/periods from around the world, but which are still (typically) quite connected.
OK thanks. It could have meant Bonjour Triestesse, Good Morning Midnight, Bye Bye Brazil, Guten Abend Herr Wallenberg, Ohayo, etc.
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3eyes wrote: September 29th, 2020, 2:01 pm OK thanks. It could have meant Bonjour Triestesse, Good Morning Midnight, Bye Bye Brazil, Guten Abend Herr Wallenberg, Ohayo, etc.
I like this better :poshclap:
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Third update :party:

Thanks to all the voters so far! (12)

72aicm
allisoncm
blocho
blueboybob
hurluberlu
Lilarcor
Lonewolf2003
Onderhond
peeptoad
shugs
sortile9io
Traveller

These are the options that have the most points at the moment:

1. Brand New Challenge Idea
1. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
1. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
4. Brand New Challenge Idea
4. Brand New Challenge Idea
4. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
4. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
8. Brand New Challenge Idea
8. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
10. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
10. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea

Lots of variety with how things are playing out at the moment; 4 brand new ideas in the top 8 and more rpt-2019 than rpt-2020 challenges.

I will post the next update in around 24 hours time or when I receive another 5 votes - whichever comes first.
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3eyes wrote: September 29th, 2020, 1:52 pm Would someone explain "Waves from around the world" to me? Is it French New Wave, Australian New Wave, Brazilian New Wave, etc?
Sorry, missed this. Yes.

We can discuss running up to it (if approved) what movements are allowed, i.e. New German Cinema (traditionally called the German New Wave) vs. Berlin School (called the German New Wave in France) - I'd say both should count, and leave it open to all similar movements as well - but if people want a more strict focus that is also fine.
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You mean it's not just a challenge for surfing movies?
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blocho wrote: September 29th, 2020, 11:31 pm You mean it's not just a challenge for surfing movies?
That would be AWESOME. Especially if Dick Dale and Beach Boys concert films counted.
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OldAle1 wrote: September 29th, 2020, 11:59 pm
blocho wrote: September 29th, 2020, 11:31 pm You mean it's not just a challenge for surfing movies?
That would be AWESOME. Especially if Dick Dale and Beach Boys concert films counted.
Don't forget The Ventures. I saw a doco on a tour they made of Japan once - it was fabulous. They were huge in Japan - I had no idea.
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Fourth update :party:

Thanks to all the voters so far! (16)

3eyes
72aicm
allisoncm
blocho
blueboybob
hurluberlu
jeroeno
Lilarcor
Lonewolf2003
maxwelldeux
nimimerkillinen
Onderhond
peeptoad
shugs
sortile9io
Traveller

These are the options that have the most points at the moment:

1. Brand New Challenge Idea
2. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
3. Brand New Challenge Idea
3. Brand New Challenge Idea
3. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
6. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
7. Brand New Challenge Idea
7. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
7. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
10. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
10. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
12. Brand New Challenge Idea
12. Brand New Challenge Idea
12. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
12. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
16. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea

I will post the next update in around 24 hours time or when I receive another 5 votes - whichever comes first.
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How many points are needed to enter the top?
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sortile9io wrote: September 30th, 2020, 2:26 pm How many points are needed to enter the top?
The highest rated option currently has 15 point from 10 ballots.

The sixteenth highest rated option currently has 7 points from 4 ballots.

It's really way too early to tell if these will continue to be the best performing options, but the trend so far (away from repeating 2020 options) is interesting. I have no idea how many points will be needed to enter the top 16 by the end of the voting period.
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That's incredibly fast ... Glad to see people this committed.

I do really hope we can break up the traditional line-up, and that we can start seeing a more varied selection of options. Excited for the final results with the current hints about the trends.
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Fifth update :party:

Thanks to all the voters so far! (19)

3eyes
72aicm
allisoncm
blocho
blueboybob
hurluberlu
jeroeno
Lilarcor
Lonewolf2003
maxwelldeux
Melvelet
nimimerkillinen
Onderhond
peeptoad
shugs
sortile9io
St. Gloede
Traveller
zuma

These are the options that have the most points at the moment:

1. Brand New Challenge Idea - 18 points / 11 ballots
2. Brand New Challenge Idea
3. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
4. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
5. Brand New Challenge Idea
5. Brand New Challenge Idea
7. Brand New Challenge Idea
7. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
9. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
9. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
11. Brand New Challenge Idea
11. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
13. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
13. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
15. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea - 9 points / 6 ballots

(there is currently a three-way tie for 16th place)

I will post the next update in around 24 hours time or when I receive another 5 votes - whichever comes first.
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Now this is getting exciting!
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sol wrote: September 30th, 2020, 2:11 pm
1. Brand New Challenge Idea
fingers crossed on what this might be... (l)
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Sixth update :party:

Thanks to all the voters so far! (20)

3eyes
72aicm
allisoncm
blocho
blueboybob
flavo5000
hurluberlu
jeroeno
Lilarcor
Lonewolf2003
maxwelldeux
Melvelet
nimimerkillinen
Onderhond
peeptoad
shugs
sortile9io
St. Gloede
Traveller
zuma

These are the options that have the most points at the moment:

1. Brand New Challenge Idea - 20 points / 12 ballots
2. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
3. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
4. Brand New Challenge Idea
5. Brand New Challenge Idea
6. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
7. Brand New Challenge Idea
8. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
8. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
8. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
11. Brand New Challenge Idea
12. Brand New Challenge Idea - 10 points
12. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea - 10 points
12. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea - 10 points
12. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea - 10 points

(there is currently a two-way tie for 16th place)

I will post the next update in around 24 hours time or when I receive another 5 votes - whichever comes first.
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Just curious: how did Directed by Women, Sci Fi/Fantasy, Silent Era and Western become permanent categories?
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AB537 wrote: October 2nd, 2020, 12:44 pm Just curious: how did Directed by Women, Sci Fi/Fantasy, Silent Era and Western become permanent categories?
We discussed it early in September. Part two of this thread has our final consensus decision.
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Seventh update :party:

Thanks to all the voters so far! (22)

3eyes
72aicm
AB537
allisoncm
blocho
blueboybob
flavo5000
hurluberlu
jeroeno
Lilarcor
Lonewolf2003
maxwelldeux
Melvelet
nimimerkillinen
Onderhond
peeptoad
psychotronicbeatnik
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sortile9io
St. Gloede
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zuma

These are the options that have the most points at the moment:

1. Brand New Challenge Idea - 20 points / 12 ballots
2. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
3. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
4. Brand New Challenge Idea
5. Brand New Challenge Idea
5. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
5. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
8. Brand New Challenge Idea
9. Brand New Challenge Idea
9. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
11. Brand New Challenge Idea
11. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
11. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
11. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
15. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea - 11 points
15. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea - 11 points

I will post the next update in around 24 hours time or when I receive another 5 votes - whichever comes first.
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Eighth update :party:

Thanks to all the voters so far! (23)

3eyes
72aicm
AB537
allisoncm
blocho
blueboybob
flavo5000
frbrown
hurluberlu
jeroeno
Lilarcor
Lonewolf2003
maxwelldeux
Melvelet
nimimerkillinen
Onderhond
peeptoad
psychotronicbeatnik
shugs
sortile9io
St. Gloede
Traveller
zuma

These are the options that have the most points at the moment:

1. Brand New Challenge Idea - 21 points / 13 ballots
2. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
3. Brand New Challenge Idea
3. Brand New Challenge Idea
3. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
6. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
7. Brand New Challenge Idea
7. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
9. Brand New Challenge Idea
9. Brand New Challenge Idea
11. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
11. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
13. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
13. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
13. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
16. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea - 11 points / 10 ballots

I will post the next update in around 24 hours time or when I receive another 5 votes - whichever comes first.
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Ninth update :party:

Thanks to all the voters so far! (27)

3eyes
72aicm
AB537
allisoncm
blocho
blueboybob
flavo5000
frbrown
hurluberlu
India Istanbul
jeroeno
Lilarcor
Lonewolf2003
maxwelldeux
Melvelet
nimimerkillinen
OldAle1
Onderhond
ororama
peeptoad
psychotronicbeatnik
shugs
sortile9io
St. Gloede
Traveller
zuma
zzzorf

These are the options that have the most points at the moment:

1. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea - 25 points / 17 ballots
2. Brand New Challenge Idea
3. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
4. Brand New Challenge Idea
5. Brand New Challenge Idea
5. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
7. Brand New Challenge Idea
7. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
9. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea
9. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
11. Brand New Challenge Idea
11. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
13. Brand New Challenge Idea
13. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
13. Repeat 2020 Challenge Idea
16. Repeat 2019 Challenge Idea - 13 points

I will post the next update in around 48 hours time or when I receive another 5 votes - whichever comes first.
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No more votes to add since the last update; I think most of the regulars have had their say by now, but as per what I stated in the OP, you have around 45 hours left to vote if you haven't already.

Deadline is 11:59pm Friday GMT.

Since we are so close to the deadline, I won't be issuing any more updates until I post the actual results, which will include a detailed breakdown of the voters for each option. B)
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