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Post by Mario Gaborović » May 3rd, 2020, 1:03 pm

Lilarcor wrote:
May 3rd, 2020, 12:48 pm
Mario Gaborović wrote:
May 3rd, 2020, 12:38 pm
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May 3rd, 2020, 12:34 pm
1. Nick (Jose Pozo, 2016) Andorra
HOW? WHERE?
It's on Amazon Prime: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nick-Cooper-Cr ... B06XKZYPVW
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Post by Mario Gaborović » May 3rd, 2020, 4:33 pm

Las primeras peliculas largometraje de Andorra y Canarias, respectivamente. (I hope this was correct) :party:

09. Nick (2016) - Andorra
10. El ladrón de los guantes blancos (1926) - Spain

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01. Andorra la República más pequeña del mundo (1935) + The Albius Incident (1992) + Persefone: Mind as Universe (China Tour Documentary) (2013) + Persefone: Spiritual Migration (2013) + Nami: Bless of Faintness (2015) - Andorra
02. Operation Felix (2008) - Gibraltar
03. Socotra, la isla de los genios (2016) - Spain
04. El día de la bestia (1995) - Spain
05. La ley del deseo (1987) - Spain
06. Operation Tracer (2013) - Gibraltar
07. Entre tinieblas (1983) - Spain
08. Carne trémula (1997) - Spain

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Post by jal90 » May 3rd, 2020, 5:01 pm

Mario Gaborović wrote:
May 3rd, 2020, 4:33 pm
Las primeras peliculas largometraje de Andorra y Canarias, respectivamente. (I hope this was correct) :party:
Quite correct, I must say.

Though "películas largometraje" isn't an expression I've heard very often. We often just call them "largometrajes".

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Post by Mario Gaborović » May 3rd, 2020, 5:16 pm

Quite correct, I must say.

Though "películas largometraje" isn't an expression I've heard very often. We often just call them "largometrajes".
So you're a Spanish-speaker but you ain't at the Forum members list. Nothing more we know about you. Care to sign up?

Unfortunately the very first Spanish feature is apparently lost for good (Don Juan de Serrallonga, 1910). I've already seen the Portuguese one (O Homem dos Olhos Tortos, 1918) btw.

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Post by jal90 » May 3rd, 2020, 5:51 pm

Mario Gaborović wrote:
May 3rd, 2020, 5:16 pm
Quite correct, I must say.

Though "películas largometraje" isn't an expression I've heard very often. We often just call them "largometrajes".
So you're a Spanish-speaker but you ain't at the Forum members list. Nothing more we know about you. Care to sign up?

Unfortunately the very first Spanish feature is apparently lost for good (Don Juan de Serrallonga, 1910). I've already seen the Portuguese one (O Homem dos Olhos Tortos, 1918) btw.
Of course. Is there a thread for that?

Also, thanks for your research on the first feature length films by country. The Spanish one seems lost indeed, but there's still a few surviving features from the decade.

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Post by Mario Gaborović » May 3rd, 2020, 6:07 pm

jal90 wrote:
May 3rd, 2020, 5:51 pm
Mario Gaborović wrote:
May 3rd, 2020, 5:16 pm
Quite correct, I must say.

Though "películas largometraje" isn't an expression I've heard very often. We often just call them "largometrajes".
So you're a Spanish-speaker but you ain't at the Forum members list. Nothing more we know about you. Care to sign up?

Unfortunately the very first Spanish feature is apparently lost for good (Don Juan de Serrallonga, 1910). I've already seen the Portuguese one (O Homem dos Olhos Tortos, 1918) btw.
Of course. Is there a thread for that?

Also, thanks for your research on the first feature length films by country. The Spanish one seems lost indeed, but there's still a few surviving features from the decade.
Yes, I've compiled a list of all first feature films by country, coz there was none at the moment. Spain happens to be 4th in the world to do so (after Australia, France and Brazil), while Portugal is around 38th place (from what I've found).
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Post by jal90 » May 3rd, 2020, 6:11 pm

Mario Gaborović wrote:
May 3rd, 2020, 6:07 pm
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So you're a Spanish-speaker but you ain't at the Forum members list. Nothing more we know about you. Care to sign up?

Unfortunately the very first Spanish feature is apparently lost for good (Don Juan de Serrallonga, 1910). I've already seen the Portuguese one (O Homem dos Olhos Tortos, 1918) btw.
Of course. Is there a thread for that?

Also, thanks for your research on the first feature length films by country. The Spanish one seems lost indeed, but there's still a few surviving features from the decade.
And yep, I found your list on LB very interesting, and I was surprised to know that there was such a large early production in Spain. For a long while I thought the first feature was from the late 1920s or something.

Also, the Portuguese one seems quite easy to find, luckily, so I can try it for this challenge. Seen a couple other silents from Portugal and they were both very good.
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Post by hurluberlu » May 3rd, 2020, 6:30 pm

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Post by peeptoad » May 3rd, 2020, 8:28 pm

5. Pastel de Sangre (Spain, 1971) Blood Pie 4
6. Nick (Andorra, 2016) 3
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1. Operation Felix (Gibraltar, 2008) 6
2. El bosque del lobo (Spain, 1970) The Ancines Woods 7
3. O Sangue (Portugal, 1989) Blood 9
4. Los ojos de Julia (Spain, 2010) Julia's Eyes 6

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Post by peeptoad » May 3rd, 2020, 8:36 pm

Lilarcor wrote:
May 3rd, 2020, 12:34 pm
1. Nick (Jose Pozo, 2016) 3/10 Andorra

I had two things on my mind while watching this: 1) This is a bit of a strange film for the Andorra Tourism Board to sponsor, given that it is a murder-story set to Andorra 2) The film could have been a lot worse.

The film is by no means great, but I saw plenty of way worse films last year when I watched all feature films produced in Sweden that year. This is fairly competently made, and as rude as it possibly sounds, I didn't even expect it to be passable given the probably extremely limited production circumstances. But it is! It is never a film that challenges the audience but it went by fairly quickly (albeit uneventfully). Decent technically speaking and mostly okay to decent performances, what drags it down the most is the writing, as usual for films like this. There are some decent and distinct establishing shots that show a bit of the Andorran landscape, it would have been great with more of that though.

e: I am very amused by the tiny territories putting up a fight against Portugal in this challenge.
I didn't like Nick very much either, but I agree it was pretty competent in terms of the overall production quality. I would also have liked to see more of the Andorran landscape, or maybe more of it in varying camera shots/angles. Seems like the setting was not used to the advantage of the film in any way (i.e. to make it more interesting or unique). It was a pretty typically filmed movie, though not bad really. I had more of the problem with the lackluster plot and the fact that I despised the character of Nick straight away and that never changed throughout the film. I thought he was a dipshit. I also hated the fact that his '"sister" in the film was an actress clearly about 30 years older than the actor playing Nick. Unless I missed something that might be an overreaction on my part, but it really nagged at me throughout.

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Post by Lilarcor » May 4th, 2020, 12:03 am

peeptoad wrote:
May 3rd, 2020, 8:36 pm
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May 3rd, 2020, 12:34 pm
1. Nick (Jose Pozo, 2016) 3/10 Andorra

I had two things on my mind while watching this: 1) This is a bit of a strange film for the Andorra Tourism Board to sponsor, given that it is a murder-story set to Andorra 2) The film could have been a lot worse.

The film is by no means great, but I saw plenty of way worse films last year when I watched all feature films produced in Sweden that year. This is fairly competently made, and as rude as it possibly sounds, I didn't even expect it to be passable given the probably extremely limited production circumstances. But it is! It is never a film that challenges the audience but it went by fairly quickly (albeit uneventfully). Decent technically speaking and mostly okay to decent performances, what drags it down the most is the writing, as usual for films like this. There are some decent and distinct establishing shots that show a bit of the Andorran landscape, it would have been great with more of that though.

e: I am very amused by the tiny territories putting up a fight against Portugal in this challenge.
I didn't like Nick very much either, but I agree it was pretty competent in terms of the overall production quality. I would also have liked to see more of the Andorran landscape, or maybe more of it in varying camera shots/angles. Seems like the setting was not used to the advantage of the film in any way (i.e. to make it more interesting or unique). It was a pretty typically filmed movie, though not bad really. I had more of the problem with the lackluster plot and the fact that I despised the character of Nick straight away and that never changed throughout the film. I thought he was a dipshit. I also hated the fact that his '"sister" in the film was an actress clearly about 30 years older than the actor playing Nick. Unless I missed something that might be an overreaction on my part, but it really nagged at me throughout.
Wholly agree. I did not like the sister character either, would not be surprised if the first version of the script had her as the mom, and that it was changed after casting. It just doesn't make sense the way it plays out.

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Post by AB537 » May 4th, 2020, 12:44 am

1. Abre los ojos - Open Your Eyes (Alejandro Amenabar, 1997, Spain) 7.5/10

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Post by jeroeno » May 4th, 2020, 4:37 am

6. Esa pareja feliz (Spain, 1953)
7. Nueve cartas a Berta (Spain, 1966)
8. O Cerco (Portugal, 1970)

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Post by Mario Gaborović » May 4th, 2020, 5:24 am

11. Laberinto de pasiones (1982) - Spain
12. El hoyo (2019) - Spain

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01. Andorra la República más pequeña del mundo (1935) + The Albius Incident (1992) + Persefone: Mind as Universe (China Tour Documentary) (2013) + Persefone: Spiritual Migration (2013) + Nami: Bless of Faintness (2015) - Andorra
02. Operation Felix (2008) - Gibraltar
03. Socotra, la isla de los genios (2016) - Spain
04. El día de la bestia (1995) - Spain
05. La ley del deseo (1987) - Spain
06. Operation Tracer (2013) - Gibraltar
07. Entre tinieblas (1983) - Spain
08. Carne trémula (1997) - Spain
09. Nick (2016) - Andorra
10. El ladrón de los guantes blancos (1926) - Spain

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Post by sol » May 4th, 2020, 10:20 am

Lilarcor wrote:
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I am very amused by the tiny territories putting up a fight against Portugal in this challenge.
Indeed. Further updated pie chart:

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Post by vortexsurfer » May 4th, 2020, 10:30 am

1. El hoyo/The Platform (Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia, 2019) Spain

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Post by sol » May 4th, 2020, 1:09 pm

The rain in Spain stays mainly in the... drain?Show
1. The Invisible Guest (2016) Spain
2. The Fury of a Patient Man (2016) Spain
3. The House That Screamed (1969) Spain

4. Twisted Obsession (1989) Spain

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Also known as The Mad Monkey's Dream, this Spanish thriller features no monkeys but has dream aesthetics as it places us in the mind of a depressed screenwriter seduced by a young woman who may be the younger sister of his latest director. The director is pretty weird too: a young guy who wants the writer to pen a movie minus a script! Can't say this all adds up, but it plays okay as a tale of man whose thinking is warped by his impossible task.
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Post by shugs » May 4th, 2020, 3:01 pm

1. Volver (Pedro Almodóvar, 2006) - 7/10 SPAIN

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Post by peeptoad » May 4th, 2020, 6:57 pm

7. The Territory (Portugal, 1981) 8*
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1. Operation Felix (Gibraltar, 2008) 6
2. El bosque del lobo (Spain, 1970) The Ancines Woods 7
3. O Sangue (Portugal, 1989) Blood 9
4. Los ojos de Julia (Spain, 2010) Julia's Eyes 6
5. Pastel de Sangre (Spain, 1971) Blood Pie 4
6. Nick (Andorra, 2016) 3
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Post by Mario Gaborović » May 4th, 2020, 10:04 pm

13. Encierro de toros (1899) + Los héroes del sitio de Zaragoza (1903) + El ciego de la aldea (1907) + Amor que mata (1908) + Barcelona en tranvía + Don Juan Tenorio (1908) + Benitez quiere ser torero (1910) + Don Pedro el Cruel (1911) - Spain

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01. Andorra la República más pequeña del mundo (1935) + The Albius Incident (1992) + Persefone: Mind as Universe (China Tour Documentary) (2013) + Persefone: Spiritual Migration (2013) + Nami: Bless of Faintness (2015) - Andorra
02. Operation Felix (2008) - Gibraltar
03. Socotra, la isla de los genios (2016) - Spain
04. El día de la bestia (1995) - Spain
05. La ley del deseo (1987) - Spain
06. Operation Tracer (2013) - Gibraltar
07. Entre tinieblas (1983) - Spain
08. Carne trémula (1997) - Spain
09. Nick (2016) - Andorra
10. El ladrón de los guantes blancos (1926) - Spain
11. Laberinto de pasiones (1982) - Spain
12. El hoyo (2019) - Spain

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Post by blueboybob » May 4th, 2020, 10:16 pm

8. [Spain] Nadie hablará de nosotras cuando hayamos muerto (1995)
9. [Spain] Canciones para después de una guerra (1976)
10. [Spain] El cielo gira (2004)
11. [Spain] El crack (1981)
12. [Spain] Los lunes al sol (2002)
13. [Spain] Elisa, vida mía (1977)

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Post by cinephage » May 5th, 2020, 9:00 am

01. As Mil e Uma Noites: Volume 2, O Desolado, by Miguel Gomes (2015) 7/10 - Portugal

02. La Communidad, by Alex de la Iglesia (2000) 8/10 - Spain

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Post by sol » May 5th, 2020, 9:24 am

The rain in Spain stays mainly in the... drain?Show
1. The Invisible Guest (2016) Spain
2. The Fury of a Patient Man (2016) Spain
3. The House That Screamed (1969) Spain
4. Twisted Obsession (1989) Spain

5. In a Glass Cage (1986) Spain

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A dark and sometimes disturbing thriller that film taps into notions of revenge and retribution, yet it is even more intriguing as a tale of cyclic abuse, violence begetting violence and the power of key experiences to indelibly shape a person. It is not really until halfway through that things start to turn ghoulish, but once they do the film rarely lets up, frequently using the power of suggestion over more graphic possible depictions. Haunting ending too.
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Post by sol » May 5th, 2020, 9:28 am

Updated pie chart, aka "Portugal finally leaps into second":

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Post by blocho » May 5th, 2020, 11:32 pm

Anyone seen La Casa de Papel, more commonly known in English as Money Heist? Any good?

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Post by allisoncm » May 6th, 2020, 6:14 am

1. Três Irmãos (1994) 6/10
2. Brandos Costumes (1975) 5/10

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Post by sol » May 6th, 2020, 10:08 am

The rain in Spain stays mainly in the... drain?Show
1. The Invisible Guest (2016) Spain
2. The Fury of a Patient Man (2016) Spain
3. The House That Screamed (1969) Spain
4. Twisted Obsession (1989) Spain
5. In a Glass Cage (1986) Spain

6. Bell from Hell (1973) Spain

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While there is a revenge motive mentioned halfway in, much of this movie is unpredictable in the best possible way with so much uncertainty about what the protagonist is doing and why. His ghoulish practical jokes are highly memorable; same goes for his stating that "there is no difference; there's only rules" on the subject of right vs wrong. That said, the film feels fragmented and random throughout with no sense of a cunning masterplan at work.
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EDIT: Pie Chart removed.

I only just noticed that allisoncm did not to declare the country of her viewings. :down: I need to update the leaderboard now and place her last.
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Post by sol » May 6th, 2020, 11:06 am

allisoncm wrote:
May 6th, 2020, 6:14 am
1. Três Irmãos (1994) 6/10
2. Brandos Costumes (1975) 5/10
Please see the OP:
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Rules
- Please indicate each film's country when listing your viewings otherwise your score will not be include in the leaderboard.

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Any points in the "undeclared" column will not count towards your final score. You must declare the country when listing your viewings.
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Post by mightysparks » May 6th, 2020, 11:46 am

1. La torre de los siete jorobados (1944) 6/10 Spain
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Post by mightysparks » May 6th, 2020, 11:51 am

For anyone interested, these are the top 100 Iberian horror films according to TSZDT (based on last year's rankings): https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tszd ... htysparks/ (the first 50 is more 'official', but I thought I'd add some extra ones in for interest).
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Post by sortile9io » May 6th, 2020, 12:50 pm

mightysparks wrote:
May 6th, 2020, 11:51 am
For anyone interested, these are the top 100 Iberian horror films according to TSZDT (based on last year's rankings): https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tszd ... htysparks/ (the first 50 is more 'official', but I thought I'd add some extra ones in for interest).
Haven't spotted any Portuguese title on it so looks more like 100 Spanish than 100 Iberian. Well, almost, because films at 62, 74, 76-78 and 85 are Argentinian. And 33 from USA? On the other hand, I miss some horror classics like "No profanar el sueño de los muertos" or "Arrebato".

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Post by PGonzalez » May 6th, 2020, 12:53 pm

mightysparks wrote:
May 6th, 2020, 11:51 am
For anyone interested, these are the top 100 Iberian horror films according to TSZDT (based on last year's rankings): https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tszd ... htysparks/ (the first 50 is more 'official', but I thought I'd add some extra ones in for interest).
AKA 99 Spanish horror films + Ms. 45 :P

But that seems fair, the only somewhat influential Portuguese horror film I can remember is Coisa Ruim, and even that one is quite underseen, while Spanish horror has always been incredibly influential. I remember a while ago there was a discussion on TSZDT's topic about the lack of Japanese films, after you posted the country data, but the relative absence os Spanish films struck me as odder back then.

Edit: Saw sortile9io's post, and true about the Latin American films, but those tend to pop up in Iberian lists due to a bit of Spanish funding.

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Post by flavo5000 » May 6th, 2020, 1:17 pm

1. La orgía nocturna de los vampiros a.k.a. The Vampires' Night Orgy (Spain, 1971)
2. La comunidad a.k.a. Common Wealth (Spain, 2000)

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Post by mightysparks » May 6th, 2020, 1:29 pm

sortile9io wrote:
May 6th, 2020, 12:50 pm
mightysparks wrote:
May 6th, 2020, 11:51 am
For anyone interested, these are the top 100 Iberian horror films according to TSZDT (based on last year's rankings): https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tszd ... htysparks/ (the first 50 is more 'official', but I thought I'd add some extra ones in for interest).
Haven't spotted any Portuguese title on it so looks more like 100 Spanish than 100 Iberian. Well, almost, because films at 62, 74, 76-78 and 85 are Argentinian. And 33 from USA? On the other hand, I miss some horror classics like "No profanar el sueño de los muertos" or "Arrebato".
Yeah, pretty everything was from Spain or Argentina but I say 'Iberian' to suggest that if they were there they would be included :P . There were 2 Portuguese films right at the very bottom of everything: The Territory and Coisa Ruim. Some films are Spain/USA co-productions, I usually look at a few sources to see what it's usually labelled as (since I only choose one) or go with the director's nationality.
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Post by blocho » May 6th, 2020, 2:48 pm

1. El Hoyo (Spain, 2019)
Similar to movies like Cube, Exam, and Circle. But I think it's better than all of those, though the central narrative metaphor is a bit on-the nose. Only the ending is lacking here.

2. Tarde para la Ira (Spain, 2016)
A decent if unremarkable revenge thriller.

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Post by jdidaco » May 6th, 2020, 7:14 pm

Thanks for hosting, sol!

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1. Las secretas intenciones (Secret Intentions, Antonio Eceiza, 1970) 8/10 (Spain)
2. Pedro Só (Just Pedro, Alfredo Tropa, 1972) 9.5/10 (Portugal)
3. Shirley Temple Story (Antoni Padrós, 1976) 9.5/10 (Spain)
4. Nós por Cá Todos Bem (Fernando Lopes, 1978) 9/10 (Portugal)
5. El bosque animado (The Enchanted Forest, José Luis Cuerda, 1987) 8/10 (Spain)
6. Das Tripas Coração (Twin Flames, Joaquim Pinto, 1992) 8/10 (Portugal)
7. Três Palmeiras (Three Palm Trees, João Botelho, 1994) 8.5/10 (Portugal)
8. Chuva É Cantoria Na Aldeia Dos Mortos (The Dead and the Others, João Salaviza & Renée Nader Messora, 2018) 8/10 (Portugal)
9. Love Me Not (Lluís Miñarro, 2019) 7.5/10 (Spain)
10. Liberté (Albert Serra, 2019) 8.5/10 (Spain/Portugal)

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Post by peeptoad » May 6th, 2020, 7:22 pm

8. ...ere erera baleibu izik subua aruaren... (Spain, 1970) 6
9. El aullido del diablo (Spain, 1988) Howl of the Devil 6
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1. Operation Felix (Gibraltar, 2008) 6
2. El bosque del lobo (Spain, 1970) The Ancines Woods 7
3. O Sangue (Portugal, 1989) Blood 9
4. Los ojos de Julia (Spain, 2010) Julia's Eyes 6
5. Pastel de Sangre (Spain, 1971) Blood Pie 4
6. Nick (Andorra, 2016) 3
7. The Territory (Portugal, 1981) 8*
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Post by blocho » May 6th, 2020, 8:01 pm

jdidaco always picks such great screenshots. I really appreciate it.

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Post by jdidaco » May 6th, 2020, 8:15 pm

blocho wrote:
May 6th, 2020, 8:01 pm
jdidaco always picks such great screenshots. I really appreciate it.
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