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Crime Challenge (Official, March 2020)

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Post by VincentPrice » March 8th, 2020, 11:04 pm

4 The Take-1974: 7/10
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1. Out for Justice-1991: 10/10
2. Avengement-2019: 8/10
3. Black Widow-1954: 7/10

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Post by VincentPrice » March 9th, 2020, 1:58 am

5. The Third Secret-1964: 6/10
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1. Out for Justice-1991: 10/10
2. Avengement-2019: 8/10
3. Black Widow-1954: 7/10
4. The Take-1974: 7/10

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Post by AB537 » March 9th, 2020, 3:30 am

18. Blackhat (Michael Mann, 2015) 6/10 - Computer Crimes
19. Awaara - The Vagabond/Tramp (Raj Kapoor, 1951) 7/10 - Conviction
20. The Rainmaker (Francis Ford Coppola, 1997) 7/10 - Embezzlement
21. Victoria (Sebastian Schipper, 2015) 8/10 - (arguably Kidnapping but I'm not going to use that one on this film since it's far from clear)

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#124

Post by Mochard » March 9th, 2020, 3:52 am

11. Warui yatsu hodo yoku nemuru (1960) - Blackmail

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It's a bit of a hit and miss with Kurosawa for me. This was probably middle of the road for me (as far as Kurosawa films go). Decent though.

Crime PaysShow
1. Desert Fury (1947) - 6.5/10
2. Locked Up (2017) - 1.5/10
3. Animal Factory (2000) - 6.5/10
4. Radio Patrol (1932) - 6/10
5. Cry Danger (1951) - 7/10
6. Blue Ruin (2013) - 7/10
7. Outside the Law (1920) - 6.5/10
8. Smart Money (1931) - 7/10
9. Le journal d'une femme de chambre (1964) - 7.5/10
10. Mannen på taket (1976) - 7/10
11. Warui yatsu hodo yoku nemuru (1960)
Bonus Challenge #1 - Crime Wave - 8 of 24Show
Murder - Blue Ruin (2013) - 7/10
Attempted murder
Assault (inflicting unwanted physical harm on another person) - Locked Up (2017) - 1.5/10
Involuntary manslaughter (killing another person through negligence, such as drunk driving) - Smart Money (1931) - 7/10
Burglary (Breaking into a residence or business)
Theft/Larceny/Robbery (Taking someone else's property) - Outside the Law (1920) - 6.5/10
Rape - Le journal d'une femme de chambre (1964) - 7.5/10
Kidnapping
Arson
Blackmail - Warui yatsu hodo yoku nemuru (1960)
Bribery - Radio Patrol (1932) - 6/10
Embezzlement
Extortion
Fraud
Computer Crimes (like hacking)
Counterfeiting (currency or consumer goods)
Drug Dealing (manufacture and/or sale)
Drug Use (illegal consumption)
Perjury
Tax Evasion
Smuggling (illegal transport of drugs, weapons, jewels, or people across borders)
Espionage
Treason
Obstruction of Justice - Mannen på taket (1976) - 7/10
Bonus Challenge #2 - Law and Order - 0 of 15Show
Police Raid (an attempt by police to enter a private area/home/business by surprise)
Police Interrogation (of suspects or witnesses)
Fingerprints (dusting or analysis or identification or use in trial)
DNA (collection of evidence or analysis or use in trial)
Arrest
Police Brutality
Police Academy (including training or graduation)
Plea Bargain (a suspect agrees to plead guilty in return for a reduced charge)
Trial
Testimony (any statement by a witness during a criminal trial)
Opening Statement (by prosecutor or defense attorney)
Closing Statement (by prosecutor or defense attorney)
Conviction
Capital Punishment
Miranda Warning
Bonus Challenge #3 - Blocho's Crime Block - 3 of 6Show
1. Desert Fury (1947) - 6.5/10
2. Animal Factory (2000) - 6.5/10
3. Cry Danger (1951) - 7/10

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Post by blueboybob » March 9th, 2020, 1:08 pm

8. La mala educación (2004)
9. P'tit Quinquin (2014)
10. Riri Shushu no subete (2001)
11. Romper Stomper (1992)
12. Sea of Love (1989)
13. Something Wild (1986)
14. Sono otoko, kyôbô ni tsuki (1989)

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Post by sol » March 9th, 2020, 2:13 pm

Crimes and MisdemeanorsShow
1. Hustlers (2019)
2. Uncut Gems (2019)
3. Logan Lucky (2017)
4. Analyze This (1999)
5. Double Impact (1991)
6. Death Warrant (1990)
7. Terminal Island (1973)
8. The Equalizer 2 (2018)
9. Turner & Hooch (1989)
10. The Gravy Train (1974)
11. Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005)

12. Striking Distance (1993)

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The crime thriller begins well with a taunting murderer who enjoys toying with the police, an insane car chase that has police vehicles jumping over hills (!) and exciting waterways action as Bruce Willis intervenes with a barge robbery. Sarah Jessica Parker's initially intriguing female cop character soon becomes a generic romantic interest and damsel in distress though, while the central killer's identity leaves more questions than answers.
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Post by flavo5000 » March 9th, 2020, 3:25 pm

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12. Dhoom 2 (2006) Crime: Burglary

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13. Zhigrana (2015)
Who keeps killing off these people!? Is it human sacrifice by local villagers or something more sinister!?

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14. Brawl in Cell Block 99 (2017) Crime: Obstruction of Justice
So much crime... assault, drug dealing, attempted murder, murder, kidnapping...plus stuff that isn't in the crime list like destruction of personal property. As far as obstruction of justice, there are a couple of times the lead commits this one including killing a couple of suspects and lying to the police several times during questioning and otherwise. Not actually charged with it though what will all the assault, drug dealing and murder though.
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1. Rumble Fish (1983) Crime: Assault
2. Fakira (1976) Crime: Kidnapping
3. Malcolm (1986) Crime: Theft/Larceny/Robbery
4. Gangs of Wasseypur Part 1 (2012) Crime: Murder
5. Gangs of Wasseypur PArt 2 (2012) Crime: Attempted Murder
6. Rock All Night (1957)
7. James Bond 777 (1971)
8. The Polka King (2017) Crime: Fraud
9. Agneepath (2012) Crime: Drug Use (and lots of other stuff)
10. Clickbait (2019) Crime: Computer Crimes
11. Baabarr (2009)
12. Dhoom 2 (2006) Crime: Burglary
13. Zhigrana (2015)
14. Brawl in Cell Block 99 (2017)

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#128

Post by albajos » March 9th, 2020, 3:56 pm

Still looking for a movie with penal code "402b Abandoned refrigerator"

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » March 9th, 2020, 4:04 pm

albajos wrote:
March 9th, 2020, 3:56 pm
Still looking for a movie with penal code "402b Abandoned refrigerator"
Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull ;) :lol:

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » March 9th, 2020, 4:20 pm

4. The Wild One (1953, Laslo Benedek) : 7.0 - A movie that's mostly interesting for the cultural influences it had. The first half, which is more a broad objective depiction of the behavior of the group of bikers, holds up well still. The movie loses some impact in the second when it becomes more a redemption through love storyline. - BC#1 Involuntary manslaughter
5. Maniac (1963, Michael Carreras): 6.8 - BC#1 Attempted murder
Crime movies do payShow
1. Guilty Bystander (1950, Joseph Lerner): 6.8
2. The Snorkel (1958, Guy Green): 5.8
3. Cash on Demand (1961, Quentin Lawrence): 7.5
Bonus Challenge #1 - Crime WaveShow
Murder - The Snorkel (1958, Guy Green):
Attempted murder - Maniac (1963, Michael Carreras):
Assault (inflicting unwanted physical harm on another person)
Involuntary manslaughter - The Wild One (1953, Laslo Benedek)
Burglary (Breaking into a residence or business)
Theft/Larceny/Robbery - Cash on Demand (1961, Quentin Lawrence)
Rape
Kidnapping
Arson
Blackmail
Bribery
Embezzlement
Extortion
Fraud
Computer Crimes (like hacking)
Counterfeiting (currency or consumer goods)
Drug Dealing (manufacture and/or sale)
Drug Use (illegal consumption)
Perjury
Tax Evasion
Smuggling - Guilty Bystander (1950, Joseph Lerner)
Espionage
Treason
Obstruction of Justice (jury tampering, witness tampering, destruction of evidence, making false statements to police)
Bonus Challenge #2 - Law and OrderShow
Police Raid (an attempt by police to enter a private area/home/business by surprise)
Police Interrogation (of suspects or witnesses)
Fingerprints (dusting or analysis or identification or use in trial)
DNA (collection of evidence or analysis or use in trial)
Arrest
Police Brutality
Police Academy (including training or graduation)
Plea Bargain (a suspect agrees to plead guilty in return for a reduced charge)
Trial
Testimony (any statement by a witness during a criminal trial)
Opening Statement (by prosecutor or defense attorney)
Closing Statement (by prosecutor or defense attorney)
Conviction
Capital Punishment
Miranda Warning

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Post by blocho » March 9th, 2020, 6:26 pm

albajos wrote:
March 9th, 2020, 3:56 pm
Still looking for a movie with penal code "402b Abandoned refrigerator"
Fascinating stuff: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face ... onNum=402b

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Post by hurluberlu » March 9th, 2020, 6:30 pm

7. He Died with His Eyes Open / On ne meurt que deux fois (Jacques Deray, 1985) 7-
8. John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum (Chad Stahelski, 2019) 5-
9. Awaara (Raj Kapoor, 1951) 8

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1. The Last Run (Richard Fleischer, John Huston) 7+
2. Paulette (Jérôme Enrico, 2012) 6-
3. 22 Bullets / L'immortel (Richard Berry, 2010) 6+
4. Wind River (Taylor Sheridan, 2017) 7-
5. The Accountant (Gavin O'Connor, 2016) 7-
6. Odd Job / Un petit boulot (Pascal Chaumeil, 2016) 7-
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Post by jeroeno » March 9th, 2020, 8:43 pm

10. Norte, hangganan ng kasaysayan (2013)
11. Kill Me Again (1989)
12. Identity Thief (2013)
13. The Killer Inside Me (1976)

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Post by Obgeoff » March 9th, 2020, 10:40 pm

1. Dancer in the Dark (2000, von Trier) 8
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No thanks - I want to get paidShow
1. Serpico (1973) BC1 - Bribery
2. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: A Shock to the System (2020) - BC1 - Involuntary Manslaughter
3. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Evil in this Courtroom (2020) BC2: Opening Statement
4. Andhadhun (2018) BC1: Blackmail
5. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Failure at All Levels (2020) BC1: Assault
6. Lone Wolf McQuade (1983) BC1: Smuggling
7. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Death has Got Him by the Hand (2020) BC2: Trial
8. The Trials of Gabrial Fernandez: Improper Regard or Indifference (2020) BC2: Testimony
9. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Gabriel's Voice (2020) BC2: Capital Punishment
10. Pierrot le Fou (1965) BC1: Murder
11. Boys Don't Cry (1999) BC1: Rape
12. Busty Cops (2004) BC2: Police Interrogation
13. Making a Murderer Part 2: Words and Words Only (2018) BC2: DNA
I'm calling this a miniseries-sequel, because this is never meant to be ongoing and because Part 2 has a very different focus than part one. Anyway, I started this season back in Dec., and just now remembered Wife and I haven't finished it. This episode spent a significant amount of time reexamining the DNA testing in the case and pointing out weird inconsistencies.

14. Drive (2011) BC1: Theft
LOVED this one. Everything about it was fantastic.

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Post by blocho » March 10th, 2020, 12:36 am

maxwelldeux wrote:
March 9th, 2020, 10:59 pm
No thanks - I want to get paidShow
1. Serpico (1973) BC1 - Bribery
2. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: A Shock to the System (2020) - BC1 - Involuntary Manslaughter
3. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Evil in this Courtroom (2020) BC2: Opening Statement
4. Andhadhun (2018) BC1: Blackmail
5. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Failure at All Levels (2020) BC1: Assault
6. Lone Wolf McQuade (1983) BC1: Smuggling
7. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Death has Got Him by the Hand (2020) BC2: Trial
8. The Trials of Gabrial Fernandez: Improper Regard or Indifference (2020) BC2: Testimony
9. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Gabriel's Voice (2020) BC2: Capital Punishment
10. Pierrot le Fou (1965) BC1: Murder
11. Boys Don't Cry (1999) BC1: Rape
12. Busty Cops (2004) BC2: Police Interrogation
13. Making a Murderer Part 2: Words and Words Only (2018) BC2: DNA
I'm calling this a miniseries-sequel, because this is never meant to be ongoing and because Part 2 has a very different focus than part one. Anyway, I started this season back in Dec., and just now remembered Wife and I haven't finished it. This episode spent a significant amount of time reexamining the DNA testing in the case and pointing out weird inconsistencies.

14. Drive (2011) BC1: Theft
LOVED this one. Everything about it was fantastic.
I'm not sure, Max. I see two seasons and 20 episodes. That's a TV series, not a mini-series. I guess I didn't specify the difference in the original rules, but I think we should use the same rules we use for our current miniseries poll.

Trying not to be annoying about this. If people disagree, let me know.

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Post by AB537 » March 10th, 2020, 3:28 am

22. Odds against Tomorrow (Robert Wise, 1959) 6.5/10
23. Insiang (Lino Brocka, 1976) 7.5/10 - Rape - my first Filipino film

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » March 10th, 2020, 10:57 am

6. Mickey One (1965, Arthur Penn): 4.5 - Penn deserves credits for experimenting with narrative form, just like its big influence the French nouvelle vague. But sometimes experiments fail and alas the result of this experiment is just a big mess. The cinematography by Cloquet and jazz soundtrack by Sauter and Getz are its biggest redeeming qualities. - BC#1 Extortion

Crime movies do payShow
1. Guilty Bystander (1950, Joseph Lerner): 6.8
2. The Snorkel (1958, Guy Green): 5.8
3. Cash on Demand (1961, Quentin Lawrence): 7.5
4. The Wild One (1953, Laslo Benedek) : 7.0
5. Maniac (1963, Michael Carreras): 6.8
Bonus Challenge #1 - Crime WaveShow
Murder - The Snorkel (1958, Guy Green):
Attempted murder - Maniac (1963, Michael Carreras):
Assault (inflicting unwanted physical harm on another person)
Involuntary manslaughter - The Wild One (1953, Laslo Benedek)
Burglary (Breaking into a residence or business)
Theft/Larceny/Robbery - Cash on Demand (1961, Quentin Lawrence)
Rape
Kidnapping
Arson
Blackmail
Bribery
Embezzlement
Extortion - Mickey One (1965, Arthur Penn):
Fraud
Computer Crimes (like hacking)
Counterfeiting (currency or consumer goods)
Drug Dealing (manufacture and/or sale)
Drug Use (illegal consumption)
Perjury
Tax Evasion
Smuggling - Guilty Bystander (1950, Joseph Lerner)
Espionage
Treason
Obstruction of Justice (jury tampering, witness tampering, destruction of evidence, making false statements to police)
Bonus Challenge #2 - Law and OrderShow
Police Raid (an attempt by police to enter a private area/home/business by surprise)
Police Interrogation (of suspects or witnesses)
Fingerprints (dusting or analysis or identification or use in trial)
DNA (collection of evidence or analysis or use in trial)
Arrest
Police Brutality
Police Academy (including training or graduation)
Plea Bargain (a suspect agrees to plead guilty in return for a reduced charge)
Trial
Testimony (any statement by a witness during a criminal trial)
Opening Statement (by prosecutor or defense attorney)
Closing Statement (by prosecutor or defense attorney)
Conviction
Capital Punishment
Miranda Warning

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Post by sol » March 10th, 2020, 11:09 am

Crimes and MisdemeanorsShow
1. Hustlers (2019)
2. Uncut Gems (2019)
3. Logan Lucky (2017)
4. Analyze This (1999)
5. Double Impact (1991)
6. Death Warrant (1990)
7. Terminal Island (1973)
8. The Equalizer 2 (2018)
9. Turner & Hooch (1989)
10. The Gravy Train (1974)
11. Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005)
12. Striking Distance (1993)

13. Beware the Slenderman (2016)

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While documentary pulls in several directions, the content is fascinating, especially the detailed breakdown of memes with one expert calling them a "virus of the mind", evocative of Videodrome's "retina of the mind's eye". The film feels inconclusive as it was released amid debate over if the girls should go on trial as adults or children, so we do not get the verdict of the actual trial, but this is a potent look at the power of internet phenomena.
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Post by flavo5000 » March 10th, 2020, 12:05 pm

blocho wrote:
March 10th, 2020, 12:36 am
maxwelldeux wrote:
March 9th, 2020, 10:59 pm
No thanks - I want to get paidShow
1. Serpico (1973) BC1 - Bribery
2. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: A Shock to the System (2020) - BC1 - Involuntary Manslaughter
3. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Evil in this Courtroom (2020) BC2: Opening Statement
4. Andhadhun (2018) BC1: Blackmail
5. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Failure at All Levels (2020) BC1: Assault
6. Lone Wolf McQuade (1983) BC1: Smuggling
7. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Death has Got Him by the Hand (2020) BC2: Trial
8. The Trials of Gabrial Fernandez: Improper Regard or Indifference (2020) BC2: Testimony
9. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Gabriel's Voice (2020) BC2: Capital Punishment
10. Pierrot le Fou (1965) BC1: Murder
11. Boys Don't Cry (1999) BC1: Rape
12. Busty Cops (2004) BC2: Police Interrogation
13. Making a Murderer Part 2: Words and Words Only (2018) BC2: DNA
I'm calling this a miniseries-sequel, because this is never meant to be ongoing and because Part 2 has a very different focus than part one. Anyway, I started this season back in Dec., and just now remembered Wife and I haven't finished it. This episode spent a significant amount of time reexamining the DNA testing in the case and pointing out weird inconsistencies.

14. Drive (2011) BC1: Theft
LOVED this one. Everything about it was fantastic.
I'm not sure, Max. I see two seasons and 20 episodes. That's a TV series, not a mini-series. I guess I didn't specify the difference in the original rules, but I think we should use the same rules we use for our current miniseries poll.

Trying not to be annoying about this. If people disagree, let me know.
I think it boils down to whether each season of shows like True Detective or American Horror Story are considered mini-series. If not, then this one wouldn't be either.

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Post by blueboybob » March 10th, 2020, 2:20 pm

15. The St. Valentine's Day Massacre (1967)
16. The Sugarland Express (1974)
17. Swiri (1999)
18. Les voleurs (1996)
19. Yajû no seishun (1963)
20. You and Me (1938)

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Post by sol » March 10th, 2020, 3:13 pm

Crimes and MisdemeanorsShow
1. Hustlers (2019)
2. Uncut Gems (2019)
3. Logan Lucky (2017)
4. Analyze This (1999)
5. Double Impact (1991)
6. Death Warrant (1990)
7. Terminal Island (1973)
8. The Equalizer 2 (2018)
9. Turner & Hooch (1989)
10. The Gravy Train (1974)
11. Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005)
12. Striking Distance (1993)
13. Beware the Slenderman (2016)

14. Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye (1950)

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Bookended with a courtroom trial framing device, this crime drama spins a tale of police corruption and double crossing in flashback. At the centre is a solid James Cagney as a ruthless but charming gangster who can talk his way around everything. The story though is lackluster, concentrating too much on not one but two romantic subplots, and not enough on clever bits like blackmail via early recording processes. Decent hard-boiled dialogue though.
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Post by Teproc » March 10th, 2020, 8:20 pm

5. Gaslight (George Cukor, 1944) - Theft

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1. The Invisible Man (Leigh Wannell, 2019) - Assault
2. The Lady Vanishes (Alfred Hitchcock, 1938) - Espionnage
3. La fille au bracelet (Stéphane Demoustier, 2019) - Murder
4. The Transporter (Corey Yuen & Louis Leterrier, 2002) - Smuggling
5. Gaslight (George Cukor, 1944) - Theft
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Post by allisoncm » March 10th, 2020, 8:55 pm

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1. Violence (1947) 5/10 Very dry, got a tad better toward the end.
2. A Vigilante (2018) 6/10
3. House of Games (1987) REWATCH 9/10 (first rating), not changing rating

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Post by maxwelldeux » March 10th, 2020, 10:51 pm

flavo5000 wrote:
March 10th, 2020, 12:05 pm
blocho wrote:
March 10th, 2020, 12:36 am
maxwelldeux wrote:
March 9th, 2020, 10:59 pm
No thanks - I want to get paidShow
1. Serpico (1973) BC1 - Bribery
2. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: A Shock to the System (2020) - BC1 - Involuntary Manslaughter
3. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Evil in this Courtroom (2020) BC2: Opening Statement
4. Andhadhun (2018) BC1: Blackmail
5. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Failure at All Levels (2020) BC1: Assault
6. Lone Wolf McQuade (1983) BC1: Smuggling
7. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Death has Got Him by the Hand (2020) BC2: Trial
8. The Trials of Gabrial Fernandez: Improper Regard or Indifference (2020) BC2: Testimony
9. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Gabriel's Voice (2020) BC2: Capital Punishment
10. Pierrot le Fou (1965) BC1: Murder
11. Boys Don't Cry (1999) BC1: Rape
12. Busty Cops (2004) BC2: Police Interrogation
13. Making a Murderer Part 2: Words and Words Only (2018) BC2: DNA
I'm calling this a miniseries-sequel, because this is never meant to be ongoing and because Part 2 has a very different focus than part one. Anyway, I started this season back in Dec., and just now remembered Wife and I haven't finished it. This episode spent a significant amount of time reexamining the DNA testing in the case and pointing out weird inconsistencies.

14. Drive (2011) BC1: Theft
LOVED this one. Everything about it was fantastic.
I'm not sure, Max. I see two seasons and 20 episodes. That's a TV series, not a mini-series. I guess I didn't specify the difference in the original rules, but I think we should use the same rules we use for our current miniseries poll.

Trying not to be annoying about this. If people disagree, let me know.
I think it boils down to whether each season of shows like True Detective or American Horror Story are considered mini-series. If not, then this one wouldn't be either.
It's two "seasons" separated by several years, focusing on very different things - the first on the trials, the second on the appeal. Very similar in concept to the subsequent updates in The Staircase. Except here, Part 2 would make sense as a stand-alone documentary mini-series. It's in that weird gray zone - Netflix groups them, so it looks like a TV series; but if they had decided to call it "Making a Murderer" and "Making a Murderer: The Appeal", no one would bat an eye at calling them two miniseries. (Incidentally, I would have voted for Making a Murderer Pt1 in the miniseries poll... if I liked it more).

Anyway, it's fine if you want to count it as a tv-series. Reset me to 13, and pull out "DNA" from BC2 for me. I'll make sure subsequent posts reflect this change.

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Post by Teproc » March 10th, 2020, 11:43 pm

6. Speed (Jan de Bont, 1994) - Arson

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1. The Invisible Man (Leigh Wannell, 2019) - Assault
2. The Lady Vanishes (Alfred Hitchcock, 1938) - Espionnage
3. La fille au bracelet (Stéphane Demoustier, 2019) - Murder
4. The Transporter (Corey Yuen & Louis Leterrier, 2002) - Smuggling
5. Gaslight (George Cukor, 1944) - Theft
6. Speed (Jan de Bont, 1994) - Arson
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Post by AB537 » March 11th, 2020, 3:13 am

24. Ride the Pink Horse (Robert Montgomery, 1947) 7/10

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Post by blocho » March 11th, 2020, 4:02 am

maxwelldeux wrote:
March 10th, 2020, 10:51 pm
Anyway, it's fine if you want to count it as a tv-series. Reset me to 13, and pull out "DNA" from BC2 for me. I'll make sure subsequent posts reflect this change.
Thanks for being understanding. Next time I run a challenge, I'm going to simplify the rules regarding timing and distinctions between movies/tv.

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Post by maxwelldeux » March 11th, 2020, 4:37 am

blocho wrote:
March 11th, 2020, 4:02 am
maxwelldeux wrote:
March 10th, 2020, 10:51 pm
Anyway, it's fine if you want to count it as a tv-series. Reset me to 13, and pull out "DNA" from BC2 for me. I'll make sure subsequent posts reflect this change.
Thanks for being understanding. Next time I run a challenge, I'm going to simplify the rules regarding timing and distinctions between movies/tv.
Yep! This is one of the major reasons I'm a fan of just the 40/60 rule across the board - simplicity. Anyway...

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1. Serpico (1973) BC1 - Bribery
2. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: A Shock to the System (2020) - BC1 - Involuntary Manslaughter
3. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Evil in this Courtroom (2020) BC2: Opening Statement
4. Andhadhun (2018) BC1: Blackmail
5. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Failure at All Levels (2020) BC1: Assault
6. Lone Wolf McQuade (1983) BC1: Smuggling
7. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Death has Got Him by the Hand (2020) BC2: Trial
8. The Trials of Gabrial Fernandez: Improper Regard or Indifference (2020) BC2: Testimony
9. The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez: Gabriel's Voice (2020) BC2: Capital Punishment
10. Pierrot le Fou (1965) BC1: Murder
11. Boys Don't Cry (1999) BC1: Rape
12. Busty Cops (2004) BC2: Police Interrogation
13. Drive (2011) BC1: Theft
14. King of New York (1990) BC1: Drug Dealing
Plenty of guns a blazing and drug dealing to go around, which a lot of cast members who went on to become stars, this was a lot of fun. Walken was fantastic in this. Not a great movie, but a solid enough watch when you want to see guns, gangs, and ruthlessness. There were a few spectacular moments in there, but I'll say that was one of the most satisfying endings to an action film like this I've seen.

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Post by blocho » March 11th, 2020, 4:41 am

Summary: The First 10 Days

Welcome to a statistical summary of the challenge thus far. I'll also deliver a 20-day summary and an end-of-challenge summary.

Headline Stats
We have 23 participants thus far, with a cumulative total of 205 points. That works out to a mean score of 8.9 points and a median of 7 points. AB537 leads the main challenge with 24 points, followed closely by jdidaco and blueboybob with 20 points each.

Bonus Challenge #1: Crime Wave
AB537 is currently Public Enemy #1 with an incredible 15 crimes, followed distantly by flavo5000 with 8 crimes. There's still plenty of time for others to begin their crime spree, and I certainly expect a few people to get all 24 crimes by the end of the challenge. Theft (10) is the most common crime, followed by murder (8). Only three crimes remain uncommitted by anyone: Counterfeiting, Tax Evasion, and Treason.

Bonus Challenge #2: Law and Order
For whatever reason, this bonus challenge is not getting as much action as the first one. Perhaps we all just lean more toward criminal intent. AB537 and maxwelldeux are currently tied for top cop, with 5 points each. Interrogation is the most common action (3) so far.

Bonus Challenge #3: Blocho's Crime Block
I'm truly honored that anyone would take my recommendations. Especially given my performance in world cups over the years, the movies I love typically receive a mixed reception. Mochard is the leader in this challenge with 3 movies.

Years
[NB: For these stats, I'm including miniseries episodes but not TV series episodes.] Participants have watched movies ranging from 1920 to 2020. The most popular movie year so far is 2019 with 14 points, while 1945 is second with 12 points. If 1945 seems a bit random to be so popular, it's because jdidaco saw 10 movies from 1945 (perhaps getting ready for the 1945 poll?). The median year is 1988. Here's the breakdown by decade:
1920s (2 points)
1930s (9 points)
1940s (23 points)
1950s (18 points)
1960s (16 points)
1970s (21 points)
1980s (18 points)
1990s (22 points)
2000s (17 points)
2010s (56 points)

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Post by jeroeno » March 11th, 2020, 6:24 am

14. The Man Who Died Twice (1958)

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Post by sebby » March 11th, 2020, 7:37 am

01 Boys Don't Cry (1999) 6/10
02 The Young and the Damned (1950) 5/ 10
03 A Fish Called Wanda (1988) 2/10
04 Deliver Us from Evil (2006) 6.5/10
05 Red Road (2006) 5/10
06 Revenge (2017) 5/10
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01 Boys Don't Cry (1999) - 6/10
02 The Young and the Damned (1950) 5/ 10
03 A Fish Called Wanda (1988) 2/10
04 Deliver Us from Evil (2006) 6.5/10
05 Red Road (2006) 5/10
06 Revenge (2017) 5/10

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Post by ororama » March 11th, 2020, 11:50 am

5. Murdoch Mysteries: The Devil Wears Whalebone (2015) * 44 min.
Murdoch Mysteries: The Incurables (2015) * 44 min.
Murdoch Mysteries: Toronto's Girl Problem (2015) * 44 min. Police Interrogation


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1. The Gentlemen (2019) * 113 min. Blackmail
2. The Flying Ace (1926) * 65 min. Robbery
3. Satan Met a Lady (1936) * 74 min.  Burglary
4. Somewhere in the Night (1946) * 108 min. Attempted murder
*First time viewing.

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Post by cinephage » March 11th, 2020, 12:11 pm

02. Un assassin qui passe, by Michel Vianney (1981) 5,5/10

Not great, but enjoyable...

03. Happy New Year, by Farah Kahn (2017) 7/10

This film is a mix of genre, but also a heist movie, as the main storyline is a plot to steal diamonds from a safe during a dancing event (the film spends a lot of time on the dancing, but at least 1 hour on the heist too, that's how things go with Bollywood movies...).
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01. Drishyam, by Nishikant Kamat (2015) 7/10

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Post by sol » March 11th, 2020, 12:17 pm

Thanks for the stats, blocho! Could this be AB's first win? :o Keeping going - you can do it! :clap:

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1. Hustlers (2019)
2. Uncut Gems (2019)
3. Logan Lucky (2017)
4. Analyze This (1999)
5. Double Impact (1991)
6. Death Warrant (1990)
7. Terminal Island (1973)
8. The Equalizer 2 (2018)
9. Turner & Hooch (1989)
10. The Gravy Train (1974)
11. Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005)
12. Striking Distance (1993)
13. Beware the Slenderman (2016)
14. Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye (1950)

15. King of New York (1990)

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Walken has a commanding presence as usual here but hast zero character progression to work with. We do not see what he was like before serving time, nor his ephiphany, so the film becomes a more a movie about a gangster taking out the competition rather than a tale of a changed man reforming his streets. The movie is very stylishly filmed with lots of blue neon and some slick action scenes (and a fun tampon gag) but I liked this far less than max.
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Post by peeptoad » March 11th, 2020, 12:24 pm

8. Goodfellas (1990) 10*
9. Hard Candy (2005) 6
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1. Monster (2003) 7*
2. Tropa de Elite (2007) Elite Squad 8
3. Polytechnique (2009) 6
4. Vice Squad (1982) 8*
5. Kiss the Girls (1997) 7
6. Spenser Confidential (2020) 4
7. Krótki film o zabijaniu (1988) A Short Film About Killing 9

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Post by frbrown » March 11th, 2020, 2:12 pm

7. Without Honor (1949) - 7.5

Another B noir under 70 minutes, and I gave it the same rating as the previous two. Apparently, this was NOT based on a stage play, but feels like it was - taking place in real time and in a single location, with a small cast.

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1. The Dead Pool (1988) - 7/10 - Police Interrogation
2a. Moonlighting: Pilot (1985) - Theft/Larceny/Robbery
2b. Moonlighting: Gunfight at the So-So Corral (1985) - Attempted murder
3. Detective Conan 9: Strategy Above the Depths (2005) - 8.5/10 - Murder
4a. Moonlighting: Read the Mind... See the Movie (1985)
4a. Moonlighting: The Next Murder You Hear (1985)
4a. Moonlighting: Next Stop Murder (1985)
5. Strange Triangle (1946) - 7.5/10 - Embezzlement
6. Violated (1953) - 7.5/10 - Arrest
7. Without Honor (1949) - 7.5

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Post by blocho » March 11th, 2020, 6:45 pm

9. Kanehsatake: 270 Years of Resistance (1993)
Not a typical crime movie by any means, and yet it feels like there's a crime taking place in almost every moment of this movie. It's absolutely riveting as both agitprop and reportage. The agitprop aspects make me feel I have to recognize that I'm seeing a very one-sided view of the Oka Crisis, but all the scenes of confrontation are real. When a small standoff over land becomes the focus of a larger struggle over sovereignty, everything becomes intense and dangerous. Shipments of food, medicine, and media access are negotiated across barbed wire with hundreds of years of oppression in the background and plenty of guns at the ready. See it here. A few more comments in the spoiler:

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If anything is the definition of a pyrrhic victory, it's what Canada accomplished in this movie. The Canadian forces managed to end a blockade, a protest, and a proto-rebellion without killing a single person. They did it by bargaining in bad faith, withholding essential supplies, and tightening an unceasing campaign of harassment. And yet, in the end, the golf course wasn't built on Mohawk land, First Nations people were energized and united across Canada, and the provincial and national government spent a combined Can$154 million.

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Post by hurluberlu » March 11th, 2020, 7:12 pm

10. Quick Change (Howard Franklin, Bill Murray, 1990) 6+
11. Gangsta / Patser (Adil El Arbi, Bilall Fallah, 2018) 6
12. Straight Time (Ulu Grosbard, Dustin Hoffman, 1978) 5+

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1. The Last Run (Richard Fleischer, John Huston) 7+
2. Paulette (Jérôme Enrico, 2012) 6-
3. 22 Bullets / L'immortel (Richard Berry, 2010) 6+
4. Wind River (Taylor Sheridan, 2017) 7-
5. The Accountant (Gavin O'Connor, 2016) 7-
6. Odd Job / Un petit boulot (Pascal Chaumeil, 2016) 7-
7. He Died with His Eyes Open / On ne meurt que deux fois (Jacques Deray, 1985) 7-
8. John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum (Chad Stahelski, 2019) 5-
9. Awaara (Raj Kapoor, 1951) 8
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Post by blocho » March 11th, 2020, 7:53 pm

10. True Detective: The Long Bright Dark (2014) - Police interrogation
11. True Detective: Seeing Things (2014) - Drug use
12. True Detective: The Locked Room (2014) - Obstruction of justice
13. True Detective: Who Goes There (2014) - Drug dealing
14. True Detective: The Secret Fate of All Life (2014) - Police raid
15. True Detective: Haunted Houses (2014)
16. True Detective: After You've Gone (2014)
17. True Detective: Form and Void (2014) - Attempted murder

A police procedural mixed with an amateur philosophy session. Whatever else, this first season was riveting. And that, after all, is the most important thing. McConaughey especially was spectacular (please note that I was on board the McConaughnassaince train ever since Reign of Fire).

All that being said, the police procedural part, while good, was no revelation. And the philosophy part got tiresome by the end. At first, I was excited by it mainly because I was genuinely disturbed how much my feelings regarding existentialism and pessimism resembled those of McConaughey's character. There was a point in the second episode when I thought to myself: "What's next? Will he say that free will is an illusion?" Bingo - that's what he says two episodes later. But as the season went on, it felt more and more like some dour emo punk's freshman-year philosophy 101 ramblings. Still, I give credit to the show for embracing the full darkness of its story ...
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The show ends with our leads talking about the battle between light and dark and how the light is winning, but that's complete bullshit. They fail to recognize that they themselves are part of the darkness. After all, they do murder both suspects during the course of the show, first with a brutal execution after a surrender, and second with what is essentially a home invasion. Even shows and movies that have corrupt, brutal cops usually save space for a heroic character. In this show, there are no heroes. Or maybe worse, we have to accept that our heroes are also villains.

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