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Post by shugs » May 5th, 2019, 6:26 pm

maxwelldeux wrote:
May 5th, 2019, 6:14 pm
Not possible (97% sure) - I looked into tons of table formatting stuff when we moved to this forum, but the BBcode for tables is pretty stripped down compared to what you can do with HTML. Only thing I can think of off the top of my head is to alternate text color by row, which is admittedly imperfect, but I don't know of a way to change the cell's background color.
:( I wanted to do some extra stats, for directors with most unique watches, and I needed to include the movie titles, but could not format this whole thing in a good looking way. I'll see if I can think of something for the next batch of stats.
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Post by hurluberlu » May 5th, 2019, 6:56 pm

1. The Sisters Brothers / Les Frères Sisters (Jacques Audiard, 2018) 8+
2. Apache (Robert Aldrich, 1954) 5+
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Post by shugs » May 5th, 2019, 8:51 pm

9. Meek's Cutoff (Kelly Reichardt, 2010) - 7/10
Slow moving western about a group of settlers that got lost in the American plains. Had low expectations for this movie, after being bored to tears by Certain Women, but it was successful at creating tension. The cinematography was also some of the best I've seen this challenge so far. Too bad it lacked a proper ending.
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1. The Proposition (John Hillcoat, 2005) - 6/10
2. The Outlaw Josey Wales (Clint Eastwood, 1976) - 8/10
3. Pale Rider (Clint Eastwood, 1985) - 6.5/10
4. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs (Ethan Coen, Joel Coen, 1976) - 6/10
5. Bone Tomahawk (S. Craig Zahler, 2015) - 7/10
6. Il grande silenzio aka The Great Silence (Sergio Corbucci, 1968) - 9/10
7. Johnny Guitar (Nicholas Ray, 1954) - 6/10
8. Rio Bravo (Howard Hawks, 1959) - 9/10

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » May 5th, 2019, 10:13 pm

3. Rawhide (1951): 7.8 - a well written and directed Western that knows how to reap maximum suspension in a realistic way from it's simple premises. Unfortunately the lead actors Powers and Hayward are the weak points of the movies. Luckily there is Jack Elam stealing every scene he is in.
4. 3:10 to Yuma (1957): 8.0 - Another simple story that's very well directed. Plus Heflin and Ford both give the performance of their lifetime.
5. The Tall T (1957): 7.8 - The start of my exploration of the Boetticher-Scott Westerns. I feel like I'm repeating myself, this again was a simple story effectively and very well done, but even though the plot is simple and the runtime short the characters have a surprisingly depth.
6. Decision at Sundown (1957): 7.8 - This one plays very interesting and successfully with the trope of the rightful protagonist bent on revenge for the loss of his lover, by him not being so rightful after all. The moral ambiguity of all other characters also make this a fine mature Western.
7. Buchanan Rides Alone (1958): 7.8 - This one distinguishes itself from the previous two by being more comedic, especially with Scott character's devil may care-attitude, and in the fact that Scott's character basically is a bystander and not the protagonist in the movie plot
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1. The Big Trail (1930): 8.2
2. Broken Arrow (1950): 8.0

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Post by Simba63 » May 6th, 2019, 12:07 am

7. Rancho Notorious (1952) - 7/10
8. Day of the Outlaw (1959) - 7/10

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Post by AB537 » May 6th, 2019, 12:40 am

5. Dodge City (Michael Curtiz, 1939)
6. 3:10 to Yuma (Delmer Daves, 1957)

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Post by ororama » May 6th, 2019, 12:40 am

2. The Return of Ringo (1965) * 97 min.

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Post by jdidaco » May 6th, 2019, 2:06 am

Thank you for hosting, shugs! Starting my modest participation with two unfairly neglected/underappreciated (and admittedly unusual) westerns of the 60s,

There’s a compelling sense of endlessness to the film; endless searching, endless scheming, endless hardship, as conditions deteriorate for all the characters as the film unreels.(...) An overwhelming sense of directionless, aimless existententialism is ultimately the defining characteristic of The Reward, in which the law, vigilante justice, and greed all are on ritualistic display. (Wheeler Winston Dixon)

1. The Reward (Serge Bourguignon, 1965) 8.5/10
2. Blue (Silvio Narizzano, 1968) 7/10

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Post by fori » May 6th, 2019, 3:16 am

Day 6 (+ end of Day 5)
22. Santa Fe Passage (1955, William Witney)
23. Cheyenne Autumn (1964, John Ford)
24. Revenge of the Virgins (1959, Peter Perry Jr.)
25. Daisy Town (1971, Rene Goscinny)
26. Ballad of the Daltons (1978, Rene Goscinny & Henri Gruel)

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Post by jeroeno » May 6th, 2019, 4:50 am

04. Gunman's Walk (1958)
05. Song of the Saddle (1936)
06-07-08. The Vanishing Legion (1931) (220 min serial)

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Post by VincentPrice » May 6th, 2019, 8:56 am

4. Fort Vengeance-1953: 6/10
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1. Northwest Rangers-1942: 6/10
2, River's End-1940: 6/10
3, Sundown Trail-1931: 5/10

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Post by peeptoad » May 6th, 2019, 9:28 am

5. Forsaken (2015) 6
6. Django Kill...If You Live, Shoot! (1967) 7
7. Cannibal! The Musical (1993) 5
8. Ravenous (1999) 8*
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1. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) 6
2. Dead Birds (2004) 5
3. Hang Em High (1968) 7
4. High Noon (1952) 8

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Post by cinephage » May 6th, 2019, 9:52 am

01. Open Range, by Kevin Costner (2003) 8/10

It's always a pleasure to watch Robert Duvall onscreen, but here, I found this western to be also beautifully shot (the cinematography is fantsatic) and well-written...

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Post by peeptoad » May 6th, 2019, 12:56 pm

shugs wrote:
May 5th, 2019, 1:36 pm
And looking at the distribution per decade, the 90s have been neglected so far. I plan to watch Dances with Wolves, so that will fix the hole. :D
Also, doing my part for the 90s... ;) Thanks for the update, shugs.

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Post by flavo5000 » May 6th, 2019, 1:00 pm

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19. Ramrod (1947)

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20. Wild Mustang (1935)
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1. From Hell to Texas (1958)
2. Jauja (2014)
3. Ride in the Whirlwind (1966)
4. Friendly Persuasion (1956)
5. Junior Bonner (1972)
6. Django (1966)
7. The Law and Jake Wade (1958)
8. Dead Birds (2004)
9. Apache (1954)
10. Track of the Cat (1954)
11. Heartland (1979)
12. The Bargain (1914)
13. The Unforgiven (1960)
14. Un uomo chiamato Apocalisse Joe (!970)
15. Aces Wild (1936)
16. No Name on the Bullet (1959)
17. Canyon Passage (1946)
18. Zachariah (1971)
19. Ramrod (1947)
20. Wild Mustang (1935)

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Post by sol » May 6th, 2019, 1:10 pm

shugs wrote:
May 5th, 2019, 1:36 pm
So, almost a week has passed.

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Let me know if there are any other stats you would like to see.
Great stats and nice formatting. :clap:
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Post by shugs » May 6th, 2019, 4:12 pm

blocho wrote:
May 3rd, 2019, 12:53 pm
shugs wrote:
May 3rd, 2019, 7:05 am
Sorry blocho, The Mustang doesn't seem to fit the challenge. :(
It really should. You should see it. Or not, because it was neither a good prison movie nor a good horse movie nor a good Western.
On second thought, I've decided to accept The Mustang as a valid entry. :cowbow:
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Post by Nathan Treadway » May 6th, 2019, 4:17 pm

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1. I quattro dell'Ave Maria (1968) AKA Ace High
2. Tepepa (1969)
3. Vamos a matar, compañeros (1970) AKA Companeros
4. Il Mercenario (1968) AKA The Mercenary
5. Da umomo a unomo (1967) AKA Death Rides a Horse
6. La resa dei conti (1966) AKA The Big Gundown
7. Corri uomo corri (1968) AKA Run, Man, Run
8. Forty Guns (1957)
9. The Missouri Breaks (1976)
10. Two Rode Together (1961)
11. Ehi amico... c'è Sabata. Hai chiuso! (1969) AKA Sabata
12. Oh Susanna! (1936)
13. The Tall T (1957)
14. North to the Klondike (1942)
15. O Dragao da Maldade Contra o Santo Guerreiro (1969) AKA Antonio das Mortes
16. The Long Riders (1980)
17. The Beguiled (1971)
18. Junior Bonner (1972)
19. Heartland (1979)
20. Tell Them Willie Boy is Here (1969)

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Post by blocho » May 6th, 2019, 4:22 pm

shugs wrote:
May 6th, 2019, 4:12 pm
On second thought, I've decided to accept The Mustang as a valid entry. :cowbow:
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Post by OldAle1 » May 6th, 2019, 4:37 pm

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1. Straniero... fatti il segno della croce! (Demofilo Fidani, 1968)
2. Ed ora... raccomanda l'anima a Dio! / Mardaneh bekosh / Stranger Say Your Prayers / etc, etc (Demofilo Fidani, 1968)
3. The Misfits (John Huston, 1961)

TCM. I've always been ambivalent about whether or not modern-day westerns are "westerns" or not, and that ambivalence continues with this film, best known for containing the last performances by Clark Gable and Marilyn Monroe, though I'd have to say they are both equalled or outclassed in the acting department here by Eli Wallach and Montgomery Clift. And Thelma Ritter as Monroe's best friend ain't no slouch either though her role is a bit smaller and she mostly disappears in the second half. Simple story - Monroe is in Reno to get divorced from hubby Kevin McCarthy (seen only for a few seconds) and accidentally falls in with Gable and Wallach, both of whom of course are smitten with her, shacks up with the former and later meets Clift, and we have something of a love quadrangle complicated by Monroe's ambivalent attitude about living out under western stars, and especially about the mustang roundup that the three men are engaging in during the last act. This was a solid film overall, with a nice production all around, nice music by Alex North and crisp b/w photography by Russell Metty, but the screenplay by Monroe's hubby Arthur Miller verges on pretentiousness quite a few times - in particular there are just a few bits of dialogue that seem really out of place for these characters, from what we know of them.

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Post by India Istanbul » May 6th, 2019, 5:59 pm

1. Call of the Forest (1949)
2. Cavalcade of the West (1936)
3. The Yellow Rose of Texas (1944)
4. Trailing Double Trouble (1940)
5. Death Rides the Range (1939)
6. Fast Bullets (1936)
7. Feud of the Range (1939)

Total: 7 points

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Post by Simba63 » May 6th, 2019, 11:10 pm

9. The Iron Horse (1924) - 7/10

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Post by peeptoad » May 6th, 2019, 11:32 pm

9. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) 6
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1. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) 6
2. Dead Birds (2004) 5
3. Hang Em High (1968) 7
4. High Noon (1952) 8
5. Forsaken (2015) 6
6. Django Kill...If You Live, Shoot! (1967) 7
7. Cannibal! The Musical (1993) 5
8. Ravenous (1999) 8*
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Post by fori » May 7th, 2019, 2:40 am

Day 7 (+ end of Day 6)
27. Drums Along the Mohawk (1939, John Ford)
28. From Hell to Texas (1958, Henry Hathaway)
29. Along the Great Divide (1951, Raoul Walsh)
30. The Good, the Bad, and Huckleberry Hound (1988, Ray Patterson & Various)
31. The Return of Frank James (1940, Fritz Lang)
32. Western Union (1941, Fritz Lang)

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Post by jeroeno » May 7th, 2019, 4:31 am

09. Man From Del Rio (1956)
10. The Trail of the Lonesome Pine (1936)

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Post by sol » May 7th, 2019, 12:46 pm

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1. Pale Rider (1985)
2. The Sun Shines Bright (1953)
3. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (2005)
4. A Million Ways to Die in the West (2014)
5. The Shakiest Gun in the West (1968)
6. The Ridiculous 6 (2015)
7. The Proposition (2005)

8. The Long Riders (1980)

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Walter Hill's movie about Jesse James and his associates gets off to a solid, action-packed start. Alas, the pacing soon slows downs with more time dedicated to the outlaws' romantic flings and them letting off steam. The characters are pretty interchangeable too, plus James Keach lacks charisma in the Jesse James role. Things pick towards the end with an exciting shootout that includes horses driven through glass windows (see above) but the most interesting part of the James legend (his death) is left until the final five minutes and the overload of Peckinpah style slow-mo got on my nerves.
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Post by flavo5000 » May 7th, 2019, 3:01 pm

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21. Terror in a Texas Town (1958)
I can safely say this is the only western I've seen where someone is harpooned to death...

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22. Son of Paleface (1952)
Hope is a douchey Harvard man who rides brashly into town after the death of his father, a great gunslinging, Indian killer with a lot of debts. After the reading of his will leaves Hope will an empty chest, it sets off a series of wacky shenanigans involving Hope and his father's old pal trying to scratch up the dough to pay off his dad's debtors while attempting to woo a female criminal who's secretly conniving for his gold. Oh, also Roy Rogers and Trigger is in there somewhere too. This basically plays like a fourth wall-breaking Road movie supplanting Rogers for Crosby (Hope even lets us know at the beginning that Bing isn't gonna show up in this one). Like the Road movies, it can be pretty funny in places but is too convoluted for its own good and the gags don't always land.

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23. The Wonderful Country (1959)
Mitchum is solid in this but there wasn't much to really set this one apart for me.

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24. Cowboys & Aliens (2011)
While the western elements of this actually worked pretty well, it was entirely too long and the aliens were really bland with no personality, resulting in a pretty mediocre movie overall.

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25. Valerie (1957)
I actually liked this Rashomon-esque courtroom drama quite a bit. It involves the titular woman, a woman of suspect repute amongst the townfolk, and her parents being shot by her husband, a well-liked, rich and powerful man of the area. Was it in self-defense as her husband's plea implies? We get conflicting testimony from several different viewpoints through the film which ties things up pretty nicely I think. It's a shame this one isn't on any lists.

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26. Viva Maria! (1965)
While certainly a pretty offbeat western with a pretty atypical viewpoint compared to many, I felt like this was one of Louis Malle's weaker films with an inconsistent tone with a plot that's all over the place. It seems to coast a lot on the charms of Bardot and Moreau though.
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1. From Hell to Texas (1958)
2. Jauja (2014)
3. Ride in the Whirlwind (1966)
4. Friendly Persuasion (1956)
5. Junior Bonner (1972)
6. Django (1966)
7. The Law and Jake Wade (1958)
8. Dead Birds (2004)
9. Apache (1954)
10. Track of the Cat (1954)
11. Heartland (1979)
12. The Bargain (1914)
13. The Unforgiven (1960)
14. Un uomo chiamato Apocalisse Joe (!970)
15. Aces Wild (1936)
16. No Name on the Bullet (1959)
17. Canyon Passage (1946)
18. Zachariah (1971)
19. Ramrod (1947)
20. Wild Mustang (1935)
21. Terror in a Texas Town (1958)
22. Son of Paleface (1952)
23. The Wonderful Country (1959)
24. Cowboys & Aliens (2011)
25. Valerie (1957)
26. Viva Maria! (1965)


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Post by blocho » May 7th, 2019, 6:28 pm

flavo5000 wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 3:01 pm
I can safely say this is the only western I've seen where someone is harpooned to death...
I feel like the whole bring-a-harpoon-to-a-gunfight dynamic should have been explored in more Westerns. That being said, the sailor-goes-to-the-west plot point has cropped up in a few movies. I think especially of Terror in a Texas Town and The Big Country. Can anyone think of other examples?

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Post by psychotronicbeatnik » May 7th, 2019, 9:54 pm

12. The Ranger and the Lady (1940 / Joseph Kane) FTV 7/10
13. Don’t Fence Me In (1945 / John English) 8/10
14. The Golden Stallion (1949 / William Witney) 9/10
15. Trigger, Jr. (1950 / William Witney) 8/10
16. My Pal Trigger (1946 / Frank McDonald, Yakima Canutt) 8/10
17. The Range Busters (1940 / S. Roy Luby) FTV 6/10

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1. Border Patrol (1943 / Lesley Selander) FTV 7/10
2. Doomed Caravan (1941 / Lesley Selander) FTV 7/10
3. Fool’s Gold (1946 / George Archainbaud) FTV 7/10
4. Song of Old Wyoming (1945 / Robert Tansey) FTV 7+/10
5. Law of the Lash (1947 / Ray Taylor) FTV 6+/10
6. Forty Thieves (1944 / Lesley Selander) FTV 7+/10
7. Hidden Gold (1940 / Lesley Selander) FTV 7/10
8. The Arizona Kid (1939 / Joseph Kane) 7+/10
9. Young Buffalo Bill (1940 / Joseph Kane) FTV 7+/10
10. Man From Oklahoma (1945 / Frank McDonald) FTV 7/10
11. Return of the Lash (1947 / Ray Taylor) FTV 7/10

12. The Ranger and the Lady (1940 / Joseph Kane) FTV 7/10
13. Don’t Fence Me In (1945 / John English) 8/10
14. The Golden Stallion (1949 / William Witney) 9/10
15. Trigger, Jr. (1950 / William Witney) 8/10
16. My Pal Trigger (1946 / Frank McDonald, Yakima Canutt) 8/10
17. The Range Busters (1940 / S. Roy Luby) FTV 6/10



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Post by OldAle1 » May 7th, 2019, 10:55 pm

I won't be watching it myself, but for those who don't know about it (I didn't), there's a new 4-part mini-series version of The Hateful Eight - 213 minutes so I guess 4x53 minute episodes give or take - that's just premiered on Netflix, in the US anyway. Go for it QT fanboyz & girlz!

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Post by fori » May 7th, 2019, 11:34 pm

blocho wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 6:28 pm
flavo5000 wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 3:01 pm
I can safely say this is the only western I've seen where someone is harpooned to death...
I feel like the whole bring-a-harpoon-to-a-gunfight dynamic should have been explored in more Westerns. That being said, the sailor-goes-to-the-west plot point has cropped up in a few movies. I think especially of Terror in a Texas Town and The Big Country. Can anyone think of other examples?
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Post by Simba63 » May 8th, 2019, 12:47 am

10. The Paleface (1948) - 6/10
11. Broken Arrow (1950) - 7/10

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Post by weirdboy » May 8th, 2019, 2:30 am

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1. Friendly Persuasion (1956) - William Wyler 6/10
2. Apache Drums (1951) - Hugo Fregonese 7/10
3. La escondida AKA The Hidden One (1956) - Roberto Gavaldon 6/10
4. The Track of the Cat (1954) - William A. Wellman 7/10
5. The Homesman (2014) - Tommy Lee Jones 7/10
6. The Beguiled (2017) - Sofia Coppola 6/10

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Post by Knaldskalle » May 8th, 2019, 2:41 am

2. Django, Kill... If you live, shoot! (Questi, 1967). Now that's more like it. A nasty movie, with gruesomely graphic violence and a truly strange atmosphere. The only place "Django" appears is in the title, Tomas Milian's character is never named in the movie.
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1. Django the Bastard (Garrone, 1969)
2. Django, Kill... If you live, shoot! (Questi, 1967)
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Post by blocho » May 8th, 2019, 3:59 am

OldAle1 wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 10:55 pm
I won't be watching it myself, but for those who don't know about it (I didn't), there's a new 4-part mini-series version of The Hateful Eight - 213 minutes so I guess 4x53 minute episodes give or take - that's just premiered on Netflix, in the US anyway. Go for it QT fanboyz & girlz!
I was intrigued, but according to this article (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/a ... miniseries) there is literally nothing new in this "miniseries" that was not in the roadshow version that some people (like myself) saw during the original release. The roadshow version itself had only a few shots plus an overture and entr'actre that were not in the wide release.

So ... pointless for movie-watchers, but a good way to scrape some more money for the producers.

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Post by fori » May 8th, 2019, 6:18 am

Day 8 (+ end of Day 7)
33. Blood Money (1974, Antonio Margheriti)
34. The Hangman (1959, Michael Curtiz)
35. Jesse James (1939, Henry King & Irving Cummings)
36. Rio Conchos (1964, Gordon Douglas)
37. Across the Wide Missouri (1951, William A. Wellman)
38. The Last Hunt (1956, Richard Brooks)
39. The Deadly Companions (1961, Sam Peckinpah)
40. Major Dundee (1965, Sam Peckinpah)

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Post by albajos » May 8th, 2019, 7:03 am

weirdboy wrote:
May 8th, 2019, 2:30 am
6. The Beguiled (2017) - Sofia Coppola 6/10
Not a Western. It's Drama/War.

If Beguilded is a Western then Gone with the Wind is a Western

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Post by mightysparks » May 8th, 2019, 7:25 am

1. Billy the Kid Versus Dracula (1966) 5/10

Not nearly as bad as it's IMDb rating and reputation suggest.

Edit: it pops up a western in a few places, but apparently IMDb has stripped it of that genre so if it doesn't count then ignore me...
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Post by sol » May 8th, 2019, 11:44 am

Once Upon a Time in the WestShow
1. Pale Rider (1985)
2. The Sun Shines Bright (1953)
3. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (2005)
4. A Million Ways to Die in the West (2014)
5. The Shakiest Gun in the West (1968)
6. The Ridiculous 6 (2015)
7. The Proposition (2005)
8. The Long Riders (1980)

9. The Homesman (2014)

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The first quarter of The Homesman does not flow too well with Jones using convoluted flashbacks similar to those that plagued his earlier Three Burials; it is also over 35 minutes in before we meet the women driven mad by the isolation of frontier life. The women themselves are fascinating though as the film explores an element of western life rarely depicted on film. The parallels between the insane women and the heroine are interesting too and an unexpected plot turn renders the final 45 minutes even more enticing with Jones getting a real chance to flex his acting muscles.
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