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Post by cinephage » May 10th, 2019, 8:53 am

02. Hombre, by Martin Ritt (1967) 8/10

Great cinematography in cinemascope, by James Wong Howe. Lovely plot, where characters are all gray, rather than black or white. A very intense film.
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01. Open Range, by Kevin Costner (2003) 8/10
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Post by funkybusiness » May 10th, 2019, 9:00 am

Jimmy Wong Howe? Yeah he did the lighting in this room.

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Post by sol » May 10th, 2019, 9:32 am

Once Upon a Time in the WestShow
1. Pale Rider (1985)
2. The Sun Shines Bright (1953)
3. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (2005)
4. A Million Ways to Die in the West (2014)
5. The Shakiest Gun in the West (1968)
6. The Ridiculous 6 (2015)
7. The Proposition (2005)
8. The Long Riders (1980)
9. The Homesman (2014)
10. Blazing Saddles (1974) REVISION
11. Way Out West (1937) REVISION

12. Evil Roy Slade (1972)

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John Astin is very energetic here as the title villain here, eyes gleaming maniacally when holding up banks, cheating at cards and riding tiny ponies. The vast majority of the film though is spent on Astin trying to reform his ways, which is nowhere near as funny to watch. He also has limited chemistry with co-star Pamela Austin; his desire to reform comes from falling madly in love with her but there are no sparks between them and it is unclear what she sees in him. Add in Dick Shawn still acting like LSD from The Producers and this is quite a mess, if one with very witty exchanges and a top form Astin.
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Post by OldAle1 » May 10th, 2019, 5:31 pm

And your poetry will now be written with blood.Show

1. Straniero... fatti il segno della croce! (Demofilo Fidani, 1968)
2. Ed ora... raccomanda l'anima a Dio! / Mardaneh bekosh / Stranger Say Your Prayers / etc, etc (Demofilo Fidani, 1968)
3. The Misfits (John Huston, 1961)
4. Silverado (Lawrence Kasdan, 1985) (re-watch)
5. Pale Rider (Clint Eastwood, 1985) (re-watch)

Nothing like a nice piece of hickory. Third or fourth viewing. Clint's third (discounting the more modern Bronco Billy and Honkytonk Man for the moment) western as director-star is not only heavily influenced by Shane, but also by his own first directorial outing on horseback, High Plains Drifter. And probably several dozen other films as well - get off the "Shane rip-off/remake" meme guys, there are tons and tons of stranger-rides-into-town-takes-care-of-family-rides-away-again westerns, and not a couple that feature a quasi-mystical element. But it's really HPD that deserves most of the comparisons, the most obvious being that this is a kindler-gentler-PG-rated-Reagan-era revision, with the Hell-sent drifter in the earlier film being replaced by a Preacher, so-called, in this one. It's far from Clint's best hour and IMO is unquestionably the weakest of the westerns he directed - even if you include the pseudo examples I listed above, mostly because it is so damn generic, and it brings little new or interesting to the table. But it's certainly competently mounted, has a good secondary cast (Michael Moriarty, why didn't he become a bigger star? I just love him in this) and excellent production values on a small budget, with Bruce Surtees' photography showing off to best effect in the early-morning showdown at the finale, and Lennie Niehaus serving up a nice, low key score. And for those who claim Eastwood as a director has little or no style, I'd suggest a careful watch of this - certainly the visuals are vintage and typical Clint, with nearly all natural lighting, very dark interiors, smooth and unfussy editing and camera movement. Low key music as well. And the basic narrative third act is something we see over and over in his films, the main character walking away or dying when his own story is done, life going on a little less excitingly for the rest, and often more than a little mournfully, often a strong note of pessimism, life not really working out the way it's supposed to; often true not only in his westerns but in films like The Bridges of Madison County and J. Edgar as well.

A note on the (US) BD: while the image and sound are fine - it's quite dark at times but as I mentioned, that's probably Clint's intention - this disc doesn't even have a fucking chapter index, it just starts right up and there's no menu to go to and access the film where you want to. Goddamn cheap stupid bastards.

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Post by flavo5000 » May 10th, 2019, 6:42 pm

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30. Monte Walsh (1970)
Good ol' Lee Marvin...

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31. Lonesome Cowboys (1968)
Really, BFI? 100 Greatest Westerns and this shit is on there? Warhol is just a trolly asshat who made terrible films the art world pretentiously claimed were genius.

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32. Oh, Susanna! (1936)
Features the dumbest law enforcement I've seen in a movie in a while. How the hell would they ever confused some grody brandit with Gene Autry?

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33. The Grey Fox (1982)
Really good one here. I've always like Richard Farnsworth as an actor. He has a certain sweetness or preciousness in his acting that really works in this role.

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34. Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here (1969)
Depressing but solid. Had some nice suspense.
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1. From Hell to Texas (1958)
2. Jauja (2014)
3. Ride in the Whirlwind (1966)
4. Friendly Persuasion (1956)
5. Junior Bonner (1972)
6. Django (1966)
7. The Law and Jake Wade (1958)
8. Dead Birds (2004)
9. Apache (1954)
10. Track of the Cat (1954)
11. Heartland (1979)
12. The Bargain (1914)
13. The Unforgiven (1960)
14. Un uomo chiamato Apocalisse Joe (!970)
15. Aces Wild (1936)
16. No Name on the Bullet (1959)
17. Canyon Passage (1946)
18. Zachariah (1971)
19. Ramrod (1947)
20. Wild Mustang (1935)
21. Terror in a Texas Town (1958)
22. Son of Paleface (1952)
23. The Wonderful Country (1959)
24. Cowboys & Aliens (2011)
25. Valerie (1957)
26. Viva Maria! (1965)
27. Westward Ho (1935)
28. The Last Days of Frank and Jesse James (1986)
29. Devil's Doorway (1950)
30. Monte Walsh (1970)
31. Lonesome Cowboys (1968)
32. Oh, Susanna! (1936)
33. The Grey Fox (1982)
34. Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here (1969)

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Post by weirdboy » May 10th, 2019, 6:55 pm

West of ZanzibarShow
1. Friendly Persuasion (1956) - William Wyler 6/10
2. Apache Drums (1951) - Hugo Fregonese 7/10
3. La escondida AKA The Hidden One (1956) - Roberto Gavaldon 6/10
4. The Track of the Cat (1954) - William A. Wellman 7/10
5. The Homesman (2014) - Tommy Lee Jones 7/10
5. The Beguiled (2017) - Sofia Coppola 6/10
7. Oh, Susanna! (1936) - Joseph Kane 6/10
8. Apache (1954) - Robert Aldrich 5/10
9. The Missouri Breaks (1976) - Arthur Penn 6/10
10. The Unforgiven (1960) - John Huston 5/10
11. Une corde, un colt... AKA Cemetery Without Crosses (1969) - Robert Hossein 7/10
12. A Time for Dying (1969) - Budd Boetticher 4/10
13. Vamos a matar, compañeros AKA Companeros (1970) - Sergio Corbucci 6/10
14. Da uomo a uomo AKA Death Rides a Horse (1967) - Giulio Petroni 7/10
15. I giorni dell'ira AKA Day of Anger (1967) - Tonino Valerii 6/10
16. Una pistola per Ringo AKA A Pistol for Ringo (1965) - Duccio Tessari 6/10
17. Il ritorno di Ringo AKA The Return of Ringo (1965) - Duccio Tessari 7/10

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Post by peeptoad » May 10th, 2019, 10:43 pm

11. Get Mean (1975) 7 wwwwwwwwwwack!
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1. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) 6
2. Dead Birds (2004) 5
3. Hang Em High (1968) 7
4. High Noon (1952) 8
5. Forsaken (2015) 6
6. Django Kill...If You Live, Shoot! (1967) 7
7. Cannibal! The Musical (1993) 5
8. Ravenous (1999) 8*
9. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) 6
10. Welcome to Blood City (1977) 6

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Post by Simba63 » May 10th, 2019, 10:52 pm

15. Apache (1954) - 6/10

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Post by sheikofhyrule » May 11th, 2019, 1:51 am

03. Cimarron (1960) 4/10
04. Devil's Doorway (1950) 8/10
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01. Silver Queen (1942) 6/10
02. Golden Girl (1951) 7/10
03. Cimarron (1960) 4/10
04. Devil's Doorway (1950) 8/10

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Post by ororama » May 11th, 2019, 2:57 am

4. The Bronze Buckaroo (1939) * 58 min.


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1. A Pistol for Ringo (1965) * 99 min.
2. The Return of Ringo (1965) * 97 min.
3. The Light of Western Stars (1940) * 65 min.

*First time viewing.

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Post by Knaldskalle » May 11th, 2019, 3:38 am

maxwelldeux wrote:
May 9th, 2019, 10:52 pm
Knaldskalle wrote:
May 9th, 2019, 10:28 pm
maxwelldeux wrote:
May 9th, 2019, 4:52 pm
the first time I've heard some anti-Swedish racism.
Can't have watched many Norwegian or Danish movies, then, huh? ;)
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Or the beginning of Titanic
Well, y'all got me... :whistling:

I just find it funny (in a sad way). I'm so used to American racism that different brands of racism are fascinating to me. I had an ex who was Chinese, so I got to learn a bit about intra-Asian racism. And apparently intra-Scandinavian racism is a thing? So much racism, yet so little energy to hate groups of people... I'd rather just hate on specific individuals. :P
In Scandinavia it's mostly a friendly rivalry and ribbing at this point, but it used to be more serious. Denmark and Sweden have been at war with each other more than any other two countries in the history of the world (between 1500 and 1815 it was basically war all the time, something like 20 wars, including the Great Nordic War from 1701-1721). After WWII there was also some Norwegian resentment towards Sweden since Sweden had allowed the transportation of German troops through Sweden during the invasion of Norway in 1940.
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Post by AB537 » May 11th, 2019, 3:54 am

7. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik, 2007)

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Post by Knaldskalle » May 11th, 2019, 4:23 am

3. A Bullet for the General (Damiani, 1967). This is one of the better spags I've seen, Gian Maria Volente deliver a really good performance as robber who supports the rebel general in Mexico.

4. Death Rides A Horse (Petroni, 1967). REWATCH. I saw this a few years ago, yet didn't remember much of it other than the opening scene. It's good, Lee van Cleef is badass and John Philip Law does an okay job.

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1. Django the Bastard (Garrone, 1969)
2. Django, Kill... If you live, shoot! (Questi, 1967)
3. A Bullet for the General (Damiani, 1967)
4. Death Rides A Horse (Petroni, 1967)
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Post by sol » May 11th, 2019, 5:42 am

Once Upon a Time in the WestShow
1. Pale Rider (1985)
2. The Sun Shines Bright (1953)
3. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (2005)
4. A Million Ways to Die in the West (2014)
5. The Shakiest Gun in the West (1968)
6. The Ridiculous 6 (2015)
7. The Proposition (2005)
8. The Long Riders (1980)
9. The Homesman (2014)
10. Blazing Saddles (1974) REVISION
11. Way Out West (1937) REVISION
12. Evil Roy Slade (1972)

13. The Burrowers (2008)

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While the creatures are perfectly unsettling here, it is the ironies at hand that made The Burrowers really work for me, with both the Sioux and settlers blaming each other for their woes when a common enemy lurks beneath them. The more we learn about the creatures, the better the film also works as a critique of the interference of white settlers. The characters and performance are unfortunately far less interesting, with Doug Hutchinson especially bad as a moustache-twirling villain. There is, however, lots to like in the mood and sense of unease that director J.T. Petty establishes.

14. The Ugly Ones (1966)

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Spanish western about an outlaw hiding from a vicious bounty hunter in his hometown where his former friends and acquaintances happily shelter him, not realising that he is really vile and despicable with the film circling around their disillusionment that he is no longer the man they once knew. I liked the basic story but thought that the film had some pacing issues, too many interchangeable supporting characters and the slim premise that felt stretched thin. The Morricone style whistling music score from Stelvio Cipriani was great throughout though and I liked Tomas Milian as the outlaw.
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Post by jeroeno » May 11th, 2019, 6:18 am

11. Fury at Showdown (1957)
12. Doomed at Sundown (1937)

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Post by fori » May 11th, 2019, 9:48 am

Day 11 (+ end of Day 10)
47. The Mark of Zorro (1940, Rouben Mamoulian)
48. Go West (1940, Edward Buzzell)

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Post by RogerTheMovieManiac88 » May 11th, 2019, 1:11 pm

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10. 'California' / 1947, John Farrow / 7/10
11. 'Trail Street' / 1947, Ray Enright / 8/10
12. 'San Antone' / 1953, Joseph Kane / 7/10
13. 'The Brass Legend' / 1956, Gerd Oswald / 6/10
14. 'Tribute to a Bad Man' / 1956, Robert Wise / 9/10
15. 'The Iron Sheriff' / 1957, Sidney Salkow / 6 or 6.5/10
16. 'Ride Beyond Vengeance' / 1966, Bernard McEveety / 6/10
17. 'Uno a uno, sin piedad' / 'One Against One... No Mercy' / 1968, Rafael Romero Marchent / 6.5 or 7/10
18. 'Wild Bill' / 1995, Walter Hill / 6.5 or 7/10

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Post by weirdboy » May 11th, 2019, 2:32 pm

West of ZanzibarShow
1. Friendly Persuasion (1956) - William Wyler 6/10
2. Apache Drums (1951) - Hugo Fregonese 7/10
3. La escondida AKA The Hidden One (1956) - Roberto Gavaldon 6/10
4. The Track of the Cat (1954) - William A. Wellman 7/10
5. The Homesman (2014) - Tommy Lee Jones 7/10
5. The Beguiled (2017) - Sofia Coppola 6/10
7. Oh, Susanna! (1936) - Joseph Kane 6/10
8. Apache (1954) - Robert Aldrich 5/10
9. The Missouri Breaks (1976) - Arthur Penn 6/10
10. The Unforgiven (1960) - John Huston 5/10
11. Une corde, un colt... AKA Cemetery Without Crosses (1969) - Robert Hossein 7/10
12. A Time for Dying (1969) - Budd Boetticher 4/10
13. Vamos a matar, compañeros AKA Companeros (1970) - Sergio Corbucci 6/10
14. Da uomo a uomo AKA Death Rides a Horse (1967) - Giulio Petroni 7/10
15. I giorni dell'ira AKA Day of Anger (1967) - Tonino Valerii 6/10
16. Una pistola per Ringo AKA A Pistol for Ringo (1965) - Duccio Tessari 6/10
17. Il ritorno di Ringo AKA The Return of Ringo (1965) - Duccio Tessari 7/10
18. Keoma AKA Django Rides Again (1976) - Enzo G. Castellari 3/10
19. Se sei vivo spara AKA Django Kill... If You Live, Shoot! (1967) - Giulio Questi 5/10
20. Corri uomo corri AKA Run, Man, Run (1968) - Sergio Sollima
21. Se incontri Sartana prega per la tua morte AKA If You Meet Sartana Pray for Your Death (1968) - Gianfranco Parollini
22. 10,000 dollari per un massacro AKA 10,000 Dollars for a Massacre (1967) - Romolo Guerrieri
23. Navajo Joe (1966) - Sergio Corbucci
24. E Dio disse a Caino... AKA And God Said to Cain (1970) - Antonio Margheriti
25. Mannaja AKA A Man Called Blade (1977) - Sergio Martino 6/10

Keoma and Mannaja have a commonality that is easy to spot--they both feature soundtracks by the same music director, and with an awful singer caterwauling nearly the entire film. Keoma is by far the worst offender in this regard; the music is laughably bad and the female vocalist is hands down the worst singing I have ever heard from someone who was ostensibly paid to do that professionally. If it weren't so constant and awful I would be willing to set it aside and let it go, but somehow the director thought to make it an essential element of an otherwise normal Western, thereby completely ruining the experience for any non-deaf audience members.

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Post by AB537 » May 11th, 2019, 5:06 pm

8. Ride with the Devil (Ang Lee, 1999)

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Post by psychotronicbeatnik » May 11th, 2019, 5:53 pm

31. The Red Blood of Courage (1935 / John English) FTV 5/10
32. Condenados a vivir, aka: Cut-throats Nine (1972 / Joaquin Romero Marchant) FTV 6+/10
33. Stop Over in Hell (2016 / Victor Matellano) FTV 4/10

I would be surprised if Cut-throats Nine was not at least a partial inspiration for Tarantino when he wrote The Hateful Eight as there are quite a few similarities. Tarantino definitely puts his own twists on the material and creates a superior film but this is worth watching. And of recent interest on this board, it's also a western that takes place in the snow.

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1. Border Patrol (1943 / Lesley Selander) FTV 7/10
2. Doomed Caravan (1941 / Lesley Selander) FTV 7/10
3. Fool’s Gold (1946 / George Archainbaud) FTV 7/10
4. Song of Old Wyoming (1945 / Robert Tansey) FTV 7+/10
5. Law of the Lash (1947 / Ray Taylor) FTV 6+/10
6. Forty Thieves (1944 / Lesley Selander) FTV 7+/10
7. Hidden Gold (1940 / Lesley Selander) FTV 7/10
8. The Arizona Kid (1939 / Joseph Kane) 7+/10
9. Young Buffalo Bill (1940 / Joseph Kane) FTV 7+/10
10. Man From Oklahoma (1945 / Frank McDonald) FTV 7/10
11. Return of the Lash (1947 / Ray Taylor) FTV 7/10
12. The Ranger and the Lady (1940 / Joseph Kane) FTV 7/10
13. Don’t Fence Me In (1945 / John English) 8/10
14. The Golden Stallion (1949 / William Witney) 9/10
15. Trigger, Jr. (1950 / William Witney) 8/10
16. My Pal Trigger (1946 / Frank McDonald, Yakima Canutt) 8/10
17. The Range Busters (1940 / S. Roy Luby) FTV 6/10
18. Lights of Old Santa Fe (1944 / Frank McDonald) FTV 6+/10
19. Riders of the Whistling Skull (1937 / Mack V. Wright) FTV 6+/10
20-29. Deadwood: Season One (2004) 10/10 {612 min.}
30. The Cheyenne Kid (1940 / Bernard B. Ray) FTV 6+/10
31. The Red Blood of Courage (1935 / John English) FTV 5/10
32. Condenados a vivir, aka: Cut-throats Nine (1972 / Joaquin Romero Marchant) FTV 6+/10
33. Stop Over in Hell (2016 / Victor Matellano) FTV 4/10

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Post by psychotronicbeatnik » May 11th, 2019, 7:36 pm

And one more for today:

34. The Fighting Deputy (1937 / Sam Newfield) FTV 6/10


On my Cayuse, let me wonder over yonder…Show
1. Border Patrol (1943 / Lesley Selander) FTV 7/10
2. Doomed Caravan (1941 / Lesley Selander) FTV 7/10
3. Fool’s Gold (1946 / George Archainbaud) FTV 7/10
4. Song of Old Wyoming (1945 / Robert Tansey) FTV 7+/10
5. Law of the Lash (1947 / Ray Taylor) FTV 6+/10
6. Forty Thieves (1944 / Lesley Selander) FTV 7+/10
7. Hidden Gold (1940 / Lesley Selander) FTV 7/10
8. The Arizona Kid (1939 / Joseph Kane) 7+/10
9. Young Buffalo Bill (1940 / Joseph Kane) FTV 7+/10
10. Man From Oklahoma (1945 / Frank McDonald) FTV 7/10
11. Return of the Lash (1947 / Ray Taylor) FTV 7/10
12. The Ranger and the Lady (1940 / Joseph Kane) FTV 7/10
13. Don’t Fence Me In (1945 / John English) 8/10
14. The Golden Stallion (1949 / William Witney) 9/10
15. Trigger, Jr. (1950 / William Witney) 8/10
16. My Pal Trigger (1946 / Frank McDonald, Yakima Canutt) 8/10
17. The Range Busters (1940 / S. Roy Luby) FTV 6/10
18. Lights of Old Santa Fe (1944 / Frank McDonald) FTV 6+/10
19. Riders of the Whistling Skull (1937 / Mack V. Wright) FTV 6+/10
20-29. Deadwood: Season One (2004) 10/10 {612 min.}
30. The Cheyenne Kid (1940 / Bernard B. Ray) FTV 6+/10
31. The Red Blood of Courage (1935 / John English) FTV 5/10
32. Condenados a vivir, aka: Cut-throats Nine (1972 / Joaquin Romero Marchant) FTV 6+/10
33. Stop Over in Hell (2016 / Victor Matellano) FTV 4/10

34. The Fighting Deputy (1937 / Sam Newfield) FTV 6/10

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Post by sheikofhyrule » May 12th, 2019, 1:07 am

05. Tulsa (1949) 6/10
06. Four Faces West (1948) 8/10
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01. Silver Queen (1942) 6/10
02. Golden Girl (1951) 7/10
03. Cimarron (1960) 4/10
04. Devil's Doorway (1950) 8/10
05. Tulsa (1949) 6/10
06. Four Faces West (1948) 8/10

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Post by sol » May 12th, 2019, 3:32 am

Once Upon a Time in the WestShow
1. Pale Rider (1985)
2. The Sun Shines Bright (1953)
3. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (2005)
4. A Million Ways to Die in the West (2014)
5. The Shakiest Gun in the West (1968)
6. The Ridiculous 6 (2015)
7. The Proposition (2005)
8. The Long Riders (1980)
9. The Homesman (2014)
10. Blazing Saddles (1974) REVISION
11. Way Out West (1937) REVISION
12. Evil Roy Slade (1972)
13. The Burrowers (2008)
14. The Ugly Ones (1966)

15. The Toll Gate (1920)

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While the moralising is heavy-handed, The Toll Gate spins a fairly decent story with a couple of potent ironic turns, plus Willia, S. Hart is very good playing a character whose disposition transforms throughout the course of the movie. The acting in general is solid though, with Anna Q. Nilsson well cast as the widow too even if the romance between them is a tad undernourished and comes across more through title cards than on-screen action. The initially quizzical title also makes more sense by the end. I would rate this is as easily superior to the only Hart film I have seen so far (Tumbleweeds).
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Post by weirdboy » May 12th, 2019, 4:30 am

West of ZanzibarShow
1. Friendly Persuasion (1956) - William Wyler 6/10
2. Apache Drums (1951) - Hugo Fregonese 7/10
3. La escondida AKA The Hidden One (1956) - Roberto Gavaldon 6/10
4. The Track of the Cat (1954) - William A. Wellman 7/10
5. The Homesman (2014) - Tommy Lee Jones 7/10
5. The Beguiled (2017) - Sofia Coppola 6/10
7. Oh, Susanna! (1936) - Joseph Kane 6/10
8. Apache (1954) - Robert Aldrich 5/10
9. The Missouri Breaks (1976) - Arthur Penn 6/10
10. The Unforgiven (1960) - John Huston 5/10
11. Une corde, un colt... AKA Cemetery Without Crosses (1969) - Robert Hossein 7/10
12. A Time for Dying (1969) - Budd Boetticher 4/10
13. Vamos a matar, compañeros AKA Companeros (1970) - Sergio Corbucci 6/10
14. Da uomo a uomo AKA Death Rides a Horse (1967) - Giulio Petroni 7/10
15. I giorni dell'ira AKA Day of Anger (1967) - Tonino Valerii 6/10
16. Una pistola per Ringo AKA A Pistol for Ringo (1965) - Duccio Tessari 6/10
17. Il ritorno di Ringo AKA The Return of Ringo (1965) - Duccio Tessari 7/10
18. Keoma AKA Django Rides Again (1976) - Enzo G. Castellari 3/10
19. Se sei vivo spara AKA Django Kill... If You Live, Shoot! (1967) - Giulio Questi 5/10
20. Corri uomo corri AKA Run, Man, Run (1968) - Sergio Sollima
21. Se incontri Sartana prega per la tua morte AKA If You Meet Sartana Pray for Your Death (1968) - Gianfranco Parollini
22. 10,000 dollari per un massacro AKA 10,000 Dollars for a Massacre (1967) - Romolo Guerrieri
23. Navajo Joe (1966) - Sergio Corbucci
24. E Dio disse a Caino... AKA And God Said to Cain (1970) - Antonio Margheriti
]25. Mannaja AKA A Man Called Blade (1977) - Sergio Martino 6/10
26. Una nuvola di polvere... un grido di morte... arriva Sartana AKA Light the Fuse...Sartana Is Coming (1970) - Anthony Ascott 4/10
27. Le colt cantarono la morte e fu... tempo di massacro AKA The Brute and the Beast [Massacre Time] (1966) - Lucio Fulci 7/10
28. California (1977) - Michele Lupo 4/10
29. Bandidos (1967) - Massimo Dallamano 6/10
30. Joko invoca Dio... e muori AKA Vengeance (1968) - Antonio Marheriti 5/10
31. Il grande duello AKA The Grand Duel [Storm Rider] (1972) - Giancarlo Santi 5/10
32. Il pistolero dell'Ave Maria AKA Gunman of Ave Maria [Forgotten Pistolero] (1969) - Ferdinando Baldi 6/10
33. ¡Mátalo! (1970) - Cesare Canevari 2/10
34. The Terror of Tiny Town (1938) - Sam Newfield 6/10

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Post by maxwelldeux » May 12th, 2019, 5:09 am

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1. Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid (1973)
2. The Wind (1928)
3. Companeros (1970)
4. Death Rides a Horse (1967)
TERRIBLE copy of the film on Amazon Prime. Some cool fight scenes near the end, but relatively forgettable for me.

5. Forgotten Pistolero (1969)
I didn't mind this so much. The score on this made the film, IMHO, and it was a nicely paced film overall. Good fights and decent story; might be my favorite non-Leone on the Spaghetti Westerns list (so far).

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Post by fori » May 12th, 2019, 7:35 am

Day 12 (+ end of Day 11)
49. Ride Em Cowboy (1942, Arthur Lubin)
50. Virginia City (1940, Michael Curtiz)

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Post by maxwelldeux » May 12th, 2019, 8:18 am

I've been in the WestShow
1. Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid (1973)
2. The Wind (1928)
3. Companeros (1970)
4. Death Rides a Horse (1967)
5. Forgotten Pistolero (1969)
6. Casa de Mi Padre (2012)
Comedy Western on Netflix starring Will Ferrell? Sold! But it probably shouldn't have been. An American Western, presented in Spanish. Which was a running joke. And the film was funny enough, but was pretty bad. It was like the writers wrote themselves into a couple holes and they handled it through some TERRIBLE effects that they tried to play off as "self aware" and "tongue-in-cheek", but just came off as sad. The film just didn't come together.

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Post by shugs » May 12th, 2019, 9:22 am

10. Django (Sergio Corbucci, 1966) - 6/10
11. Dances with Wolves (Kevin Costner, 1990) - 7/10
12. Giant (George Stevens, 1956) - 8/10
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1. The Proposition (John Hillcoat, 2005) - 6/10
2. The Outlaw Josey Wales (Clint Eastwood, 1976) - 8/10
3. Pale Rider (Clint Eastwood, 1985) - 6.5/10
4. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs (Ethan Coen, Joel Coen, 1976) - 6/10
5. Bone Tomahawk (S. Craig Zahler, 2015) - 7/10
6. Il grande silenzio aka The Great Silence (Sergio Corbucci, 1968) - 9/10
7. Johnny Guitar (Nicholas Ray, 1954) - 6/10
8. Rio Bravo (Howard Hawks, 1959) - 9/10
9. Meek's Cutoff (Kelly Reichardt, 2010) - 7/10

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Post by shugs » May 12th, 2019, 10:10 am

Howdy. :cowbow: Another week has passed. There are currently 30 participants in this challenge, accumulating 346 points, for an average of 11.53 points per participant.

fori still leads the challenge with 50 watches, followed by a fierce competition between flavo5000, weirdboy and psychotronicbeatnik for the second place, each with 34 points.

In total there have been 271 different movies watched so far. I am excluding Deadwood and Lonesome Dove (from this total count and further stats), since I've not structured my data properly for episodic features. Maybe I'll be able to code up something for next week for them, but I can't promise anything.

The most watched movies so far have been Giulio Petroni's 'Da uomo a uomo' and Robert Aldrich's 'Apache', each with 4 different watches.
Most Watched MoviesShow
MovieDirectorYearCountryWatches
Da uomo a uomoGiulio Petroni1967Italy4
ApacheRobert Aldrich1954USA4
Corri uomo corriSergio Sollima1968Italy, France3
Se sei vivo sparaGiulio Questi1967Italy, Spain3
Vamos a matar, compañerosSergio Corbucci1970Italy, West Germany, Spain3
Oh, Susanna!Joseph Kane1936USA3
Friendly PersuasionWilliam Wyler1956USA3
Pale RiderClint Eastwood1985USA3
The Missouri BreaksArthur Penn1976USA3
The Ballad of Buster ScruggsEthan Coen, Joel Coen2018USA3
Stranger on HorsebackJacques Tourneur1955USA2
Dead BirdsAlex Turner2004USA2
The PropositionJohn Hillcoat2005Australia, UK2
La escondidaRoberto Gavaldón1956Mexico2
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert FordAndrew Dominik2007USA, Canada, UK2
DjangoSergio Corbucci1966Italy, Spain2
3:10 to YumaDelmer Daves1957USA2
Ride in the WhirlwindMonte Hellman1966USA2
Junior BonnerSam Peckinpah1972USA2
Track of the CatWilliam A. Wellman1954USA2
HeartlandRichard Pearce1979USA2
The UnforgivenJohn Huston1960USA2
RamrodAndré De Toth1947USA2
Quién sabe?Damiano Damiani1967Italy2
The Sun Shines BrightJohn Ford1953USA2
The Wonderful CountryRobert Parrish1959USA, Mexico2
Devil’s DoorwayAnthony Mann1950USA2
Tell Them Willie Boy Is HereAbraham Polonsky1969USA2
Open RangeKevin Costner2003USA2
The MisfitsJohn Huston1961USA2
Joko invoca Dio... e muoriAntonio Margheriti1968Italy, West Germany2
CaliforniaMichele Lupo1977Italy, Spain2
The HomesmanTommy Lee Jones2014USA, France2
From Hell to TexasHenry Hathaway1958USA2
Broken ArrowDelmer Daves1950USA2
The Law and Jake WadeJohn Sturges1958USA2
Il pistolero dell’Ave MariaFerdinando Baldi1969Italy, Spain2
Forty GunsSamuel Fuller1957USA2
Navajo JoeSergio Corbucci1966Italy, Spain2
The Long RidersWalter Hill1980USA2
Across the Wide MissouriWilliam A. Wellman1951USA2
Man of the WestAnthony Mann1958USA2
The Tall TBudd Boetticher1957USA2
Le colt cantarono la morte e fu... tempo di massacroLucio Fulci1966Italy2
Il ritorno di RingoDuccio Tessari1965Italy, Spain2
Cowboys & AliensJon Favreau2011USA, India2
Una pistola per RingoDuccio Tessari1965Italy, Spain2

The most watched director, with 9 watches, is Sergio Corbucci.
Most Watched DirectorsShow
DirectorWatches
Sergio Corbucci9
John Ford8
Joseph Kane8
Anthony Mann8
Lesley Selander6
William A. Wellman6
Budd Boetticher6
Giulio Petroni5
Sam Peckinpah5
Michael Curtiz5
Delmer Daves5
Robert Aldrich4
Sergio Sollima4
André De Toth4
John Sturges4
William Wyler4
Clint Eastwood4
Henry Hathaway4
Sam Newfield4
Duccio Tessari4
Raoul Walsh4
Jacques Tourneur4
Antonio Margheriti4
John Huston4
William Witney3
Kevin Costner3
Harry L. Fraser3
Ferdinando Baldi3
Giulio Questi3
Tommy Lee Jones3
Joel Coen3
Arthur Penn3
Fritz Lang3
Ethan Coen3
Samuel Fuller3
Frank McDonald3
Ray Enright3
Gerd Oswald3
Monte Hellman3
Walter Hill3
Henry King2
Edward L. Cahn2
Alex Turner2
Andrew Dominik2
Michele Lupo2
Ray Taylor2
Roberto Gavaldón2
Abraham Polonsky2
Gianfranco Parolini2
John Farrow2
Robert Parrish2
Lucio Fulci2
Richard Pearce2
Harry S. Webb2
Demofilo Fidani2
John English2
Jon Favreau2
Enzo G. Castellari2
Nicholas Ray2
S. Roy Luby2
Damiano Damiani2
John Hillcoat2
Lloyd Bacon2
René Goscinny2

The most watched genre is still western, who would have guessed. :blink: Fantasy, Animation, Sci-fi and Family movies have appeared since last week.
Most Watched GenresShow
GenreWatches
Western326
Drama122
Romance88
Action61
Comedy46
Adventure38
Thriller19
Crime18
History13
Biography12
Horror12
War12
Music12
Mystery10
Musical10
Family6
Sci-Fi3
Animation3
Fantasy1

The most watched countries are still USA and Italy.
Most Watched CountriesShow
CountryWatches
USA258
Italy61
Spain32
France19
West Germany11
Mexico10
UK9
Canada6
Australia2
Belgium2
Brazil2
India2
Argentina1
Germany1
Netherlands1
Hong Kong1
Iran1
Czech Republic1
Monaco1
Denmark1
Romania1

1968 still leads as the year with the most watches.
Most Watched YearsShow
YearWatches
196817
194014
195714
196614
196714
195613
196912
195810

The 50s and 60s are the most popular decades.
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That's it for this week. If you have any stats suggestions, please let me know.

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Post by jeroeno » May 12th, 2019, 12:21 pm

Allow me to add Greece to the Country list.
13. Canyon Passage (1946)
14. Oi sfaires den gyrizoun piso (1967) <--- Highly recommended DTC flick.

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Post by Straka » May 12th, 2019, 1:47 pm

3. Giù la testa (Sergio Leone, 1971)

Once Upon a Time in AlmeríaShow
1. Quién sabe? (Damiano Damiani, 1967)
2. Navajo Joe (Sergio Corbucci, 1966)
Giù la testa (Sergio Leone, 1971)

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Post by RogerTheMovieManiac88 » May 12th, 2019, 1:59 pm

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19. 'Flame of Barbary Coast' / 1945, Joseph Kane / 6.5/10
20. 'The Charge at Feather River' / 1953, Gordon Douglas / 6.5/10
21. 'Walk the Proud Land' / 1956, Jesse Hibbs / 7.5 or 8/10
22. 'Fort Bowie' / 1958, Howard W. Koch / 6.5/10
23. 'Lonely Are the Brave' / 1962, David Miller / 9/10
24. 'Se incontri Sartana prega per la tua morte' / 'If You Meet Sartana... Pray for Your Death' / 1968, Gianfranco Parolini / 8 or 8.5/10
25. 'Arriva Durango... paga o muori' / 'Durango Is Coming, Pay or Die' / 1971, Roberto Bianchi Montero / 6 or 6.5/10

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That's all, folks!

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » May 12th, 2019, 2:54 pm

8. Ride Lonesome (1959): 7.8
9. Comanche Station (1960): 7.8 - These Boetticher-Scott movies are all so alike that this one even meta-comments on previous ones,
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f.e. when the bad guys here comment it would be nice if they had a purpose for the reward they going to rip Scott of, which is a nice contrast to the two bad guys in Ride Lonesome who actually do have a real purpose for the reward they want.
All in all I really liked these movies; The plots are very simple and formulaic. But in closer examination the characters, their relationships and plot reveal to be well-rounded and nuanced. Because the plots are stripped down to the bare essentials, they work like clockwork; there's not a minute or word too much in them. As my ratings reflect I liked them all about equally.
10. One-Eyed Jacks (1961): 7.8
11. Two Rode Together (1961): 7.5 - This late Ford Western about the ransom of longtime Comanche captives and their reintegration into society touches in a very a very cynical way interesting points about identity, prejudices, racism and social acceptance. Unfortunate the examination thereof is intercut with dispensable comic relief and the obligatory romantic subplots. Highlights of the movie are the scenes with Stewart and Widmark bantering, because Stewart, even on autopilot, and Widmark are so far above the rest.
12. Warlock (1959): 7.5 - The plot is overly familiar, but trough the use of complex grey characters, good guys show their bad sides and vice versa, the movie becomes interesting. Because the motivations of the various characters are evident, there is real tension in the shootout scenes. Unfortunate is the loss of momentum in the middle, when the movie focuses on again some obligatory romantic subplots.

They Shoot Pictures with Horses, Don't They?Show
1. The Big Trail (1930): 8.2
2. Broken Arrow (1950): 8.0
3. Rawhide (1951): 7.8
4. 3:10 to Yuma (1957): 8.0
5. The Tall T (1957): 7.8
6. Decision at Sundown (1957): 7.8
7. Buchanan Rides Alone (1958): 7.8

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Post by peeptoad » May 12th, 2019, 7:43 pm

12. Rango (2011) 7*
13. The Magnificent Seven (1960) 8
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1. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) 6
2. Dead Birds (2004) 5
3. Hang Em High (1968) 7
4. High Noon (1952) 8
5. Forsaken (2015) 6
6. Django Kill...If You Live, Shoot! (1967) 7
7. Cannibal! The Musical (1993) 5
8. Ravenous (1999) 8*
9. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) 6
10. Welcome to Blood City (1977) 6
11. Get Mean (1975) 7

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » May 12th, 2019, 10:14 pm

13. Una pistola per Ringo [ A Pistol for Ringo] (1965): 6.5 -okay Spaghetti-Western

Question: do you all watch spaghetti-western in Italian or English audio? Since they are Italian movies the purist under us will no doubtly chose for the Italian. But there are also arguments to be made for choosing English. Firstly this movie are set in the USA, so it's natural to hear them talk in English. Secondly it's weird (to me) to hear familiar American actors talk in Italian. Thirdly the purity of Italian dub can be questioned since the non-Italian actors were also dubbed in Italian (the Italian also).
Myself I chose for Italian, but I keep being in two minds about it.
They Shoot Pictures with Horses, Don't They?Show
1. The Big Trail (1930): 8.2
2. Broken Arrow (1950): 8.0
3. Rawhide (1951): 7.8
4. 3:10 to Yuma (1957): 8.0
5. The Tall T (1957): 7.8
6. Decision at Sundown (1957): 7.8
7. Buchanan Rides Alone (1958): 7.8
8. Ride Lonesome (1959): 7.8
9. Comanche Station (1960): 7.8
10. One-Eyed Jacks (1961): 7.8
11. Two Rode Together (1961): 7.5
12. Warlock (1959): 7.5

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Post by OldAle1 » May 12th, 2019, 10:43 pm

Lonewolf2003 wrote:
May 12th, 2019, 10:14 pm
13. Una pistola per Ringo [ A Pistol for Ringo] (1965): 6.5 -okay Spaghetti-Western

Question: do you all watch spaghetti-western in Italian or English audio? Since they are Italian movies the purist under us will no doubtly chose for the Italian. But there are also arguments to be made for choosing English. Firstly this movie are set in the USA, so it's natural to hear them talk in English. Secondly it's weird (to me) to hear familiar American actors talk in Italian. Thirdly the purity of Italian dub can be questioned since the non-Italian actors were also dubbed in Italian (the Italian also).
Myself I chose for Italian, but I keep being in two minds about it.
Depends on the movie. If the main star is American and is dubbing his own voice I'm gonna pick English; same would go for a European star if I knew their voice well enough - if Klaus Kinski was doing his own dubbing in German in a film for example and I had the German dub with subs I'd watch that. But the Italian actors rarely did their own dubbing, so if it's a mostly Italian cast, I don't really care - usually I just go with whatever is the best copy and sometimes I do bother to watch the first few minutes if I have a multi-audio version, to see which one sounds best - because sometimes the music and FX are mixed differently on the different versions as well. And sometimes of course there's only one version available, and sometimes one version (usually the Italian) is significantly longer.

Confusing shit to say the least.

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Post by maxwelldeux » May 12th, 2019, 11:35 pm

OldAle1 wrote:
May 12th, 2019, 10:43 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote:
May 12th, 2019, 10:14 pm
13. Una pistola per Ringo [ A Pistol for Ringo] (1965): 6.5 -okay Spaghetti-Western

Question: do you all watch spaghetti-western in Italian or English audio? Since they are Italian movies the purist under us will no doubtly chose for the Italian. But there are also arguments to be made for choosing English. Firstly this movie are set in the USA, so it's natural to hear them talk in English. Secondly it's weird (to me) to hear familiar American actors talk in Italian. Thirdly the purity of Italian dub can be questioned since the non-Italian actors were also dubbed in Italian (the Italian also).
Myself I chose for Italian, but I keep being in two minds about it.
Depends on the movie. If the main star is American and is dubbing his own voice I'm gonna pick English; same would go for a European star if I knew their voice well enough - if Klaus Kinski was doing his own dubbing in German in a film for example and I had the German dub with subs I'd watch that. But the Italian actors rarely did their own dubbing, so if it's a mostly Italian cast, I don't really care - usually I just go with whatever is the best copy and sometimes I do bother to watch the first few minutes if I have a multi-audio version, to see which one sounds best - because sometimes the music and FX are mixed differently on the different versions as well. And sometimes of course there's only one version available, and sometimes one version (usually the Italian) is significantly longer.

Confusing shit to say the least.
I actually thought it was pretty typical for the actors to be speaking different languages on set - the sound/dialogue was recorded later, so everything was a dub. I seem to recall reading that about Leone's films somewhere...

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Post by OldAle1 » May 12th, 2019, 11:41 pm

maxwelldeux wrote:
May 12th, 2019, 11:35 pm
OldAle1 wrote:
May 12th, 2019, 10:43 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote:
May 12th, 2019, 10:14 pm
13. Una pistola per Ringo [ A Pistol for Ringo] (1965): 6.5 -okay Spaghetti-Western

Question: do you all watch spaghetti-western in Italian or English audio? Since they are Italian movies the purist under us will no doubtly chose for the Italian. But there are also arguments to be made for choosing English. Firstly this movie are set in the USA, so it's natural to hear them talk in English. Secondly it's weird (to me) to hear familiar American actors talk in Italian. Thirdly the purity of Italian dub can be questioned since the non-Italian actors were also dubbed in Italian (the Italian also).
Myself I chose for Italian, but I keep being in two minds about it.
Depends on the movie. If the main star is American and is dubbing his own voice I'm gonna pick English; same would go for a European star if I knew their voice well enough - if Klaus Kinski was doing his own dubbing in German in a film for example and I had the German dub with subs I'd watch that. But the Italian actors rarely did their own dubbing, so if it's a mostly Italian cast, I don't really care - usually I just go with whatever is the best copy and sometimes I do bother to watch the first few minutes if I have a multi-audio version, to see which one sounds best - because sometimes the music and FX are mixed differently on the different versions as well. And sometimes of course there's only one version available, and sometimes one version (usually the Italian) is significantly longer.

Confusing shit to say the least.
I actually thought it was pretty typical for the actors to be speaking different languages on set - the sound/dialogue was recorded later, so everything was a dub. I seem to recall reading that about Leone's films somewhere...
Everyone is dubbed, yeah, but sometimes the actors are dubbing themselves, and sometimes not. The English-language versions of the Leone films have become "standard" in large part because the main American stars do dub themselves, but not all directors or actors gave a shit about doing that. Pretty sure I've heard Lee Van Cleef dubbed by others in English for example.

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Post by flavo5000 » May 13th, 2019, 2:27 am

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35. The Painted Hills (1951)

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36. The Great K & A Train Robbery (1926)

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37. W Django! (1971)

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38. The Deadly Companions (1961)

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39. Wild and Woolly (1917)

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40. Cowboy (1958)

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41-48. El Cazador de la Bruja (2007) Ep 1-26
DRAW!Show
1. From Hell to Texas (1958)
2. Jauja (2014)
3. Ride in the Whirlwind (1966)
4. Friendly Persuasion (1956)
5. Junior Bonner (1972)
6. Django (1966)
7. The Law and Jake Wade (1958)
8. Dead Birds (2004)
9. Apache (1954)
10. Track of the Cat (1954)
11. Heartland (1979)
12. The Bargain (1914)
13. The Unforgiven (1960)
14. Un uomo chiamato Apocalisse Joe (!970)
15. Aces Wild (1936)
16. No Name on the Bullet (1959)
17. Canyon Passage (1946)
18. Zachariah (1971)
19. Ramrod (1947)
20. Wild Mustang (1935)
21. Terror in a Texas Town (1958)
22. Son of Paleface (1952)
23. The Wonderful Country (1959)
24. Cowboys & Aliens (2011)
25. Valerie (1957)
26. Viva Maria! (1965)
27. Westward Ho (1935)
28. The Last Days of Frank and Jesse James (1986)
29. Devil's Doorway (1950)
30. Monte Walsh (1970)
31. Lonesome Cowboys (1968)
32. Oh, Susanna! (1936)
33. The Grey Fox (1982)
34. Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here (1969)
35. The Painted Hills (1951)
36. The Great K & A Train Robbery (1926)
37. W Django! (1971)
38. The Deadly Companions (1961)
39. Wild and Woolly (1917)
40. Cowboy (1958)
41-48. El Cazador de la Bruja (2007)

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Post by fori » May 13th, 2019, 6:12 am

Day 13 (+ end of Day 12)
51. My Little Chickadee (1940, Edward F. Cline)
52. In Old Arizona (1928, Irving Cummings)
53. Vengeance Valley (1951, Richard Thorpe)

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