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Criterion + Masters of Cinema Challenge - Official; November 2018

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Criterion + Masters of Cinema Challenge - Official; November 2018

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Post by sol » October 30th, 2018, 10:48 am

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Criterion + Masters of Cinema Challenge

Goal
Watch as many Criterion and Masters of Cinema series movies as you can from November 1, 2018 to November 30, 2018.

Rules
- Each feature film (over 40 minutes) counts as one entry.
- 60 minutes of short films counts as one entry.
- 120 minutes of TV episodes counts as one entry.
- The usual miniseries rule applies (ask if unsure).
- Rewatches are allowed and are good for the soul.

I reserve the right to exclude participants who intentionally number their viewings incorrectly. If you play the game, you're expected to play properly.

DEADLINE
Final results will be posted between 12:00pm and 12:30pm GMT on December 2 - at which point it will have been December everywhere in the world for a whole day. While you are welcome to post updates beyond this point, any such updates will not be included in the final results. Your choice whether you miss the deadline or not; besides, if it's December on your side of the world, shouldn't you be starting on one of next month's challenges, mm?

Official Lists
The Criterion Collection
Criterion's Eclipse Collection
Masters of Cinema

That is all.

As per the precedent set when this Challenge was run in 2017, I'll be hosting a separate unofficial challenge in which you can list any bonus features that you watch during November.

Link to Bonus Features Challenge: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4020&view=unread#unread

This thread will be updated at least twice a day (more often if I am around and feel like it). Since I am updating manually, I would appreciate it if you list new films seen in a new post. If you would prefer just to endlessly edit your original post, please let me know so that I remember to check your post.

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RankiCMer# of Watches
1 zuma 48
2 jeroeno 39
3 72allinncallme 24
4 sol 17
5 maxwelldeux 13
6 tarr 12
6 vortexsurfer 12
8 psychotronicbeatnik 10
9 jdidaco 8
10 flavo5000 7
11 Mate_cosido 6
12 Melvelet 5
12 monclivie 5
14 GruesomeTwosome 4
14 Lonewolf2003 4
14 sebby 4
14 weirdboy 4
18 albajos 3
18 Knaldskalle 3
20 Daviddoes 2
20 edward5 2
20 morrison-dylan-fan 2
20 ororama 2
24 hurluberlu 1
24 mondovertigo 1
24 shugs 1
24 VincentPrice 1
24 zzzorf 1
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Post by albajos » October 30th, 2018, 10:54 am

Is there even any TV-series in these collections?

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Post by sol » October 30th, 2018, 10:55 am

albajos wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 10:54 am
Is there even any TV-series in these collections?
I know that there is at least Fishing with John. Also Tanner '88, which I'd really like to see.
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Post by albajos » October 30th, 2018, 12:02 pm

I hvae postponed two Flare movies because of this challenge, so I'll see Faustrecht der Freiheit and La vie d'Adèle at least.

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Post by 3eyes » October 30th, 2018, 12:32 pm

in, modestly.
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Post by zuma » October 30th, 2018, 12:55 pm

I was looking forward to taking part this year. There were some backlogged films and a pile of Olympic films I was hoping to get through.

However, with the announcement that Filmstruck is going away on November 29th my focus has shifted to getting through my bookmarked films before it all vanishes. Kind of funny/sad that my participation in a Criterion challenge will be limited because of all the Criterion streaming films I have to watch. ;)

Still in for a few as there will be overlap between the official releases and what's streaming.

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Post by zuma » October 30th, 2018, 12:58 pm

sol wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 10:55 am
albajos wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 10:54 am
Is there even any TV-series in these collections?
I know that there is at least Fishing with John. Also Tanner '88, which I'd really like to see.
Wouldn't Tanner '88 be a mini series?

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Post by albajos » October 30th, 2018, 1:02 pm

zuma wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 12:58 pm
sol wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 10:55 am
albajos wrote:
October 30th, 2018, 10:54 am
Is there even any TV-series in these collections?
I know that there is at least Fishing with John. Also Tanner '88, which I'd really like to see.
Wouldn't Tanner '88 be a mini series?
Yes, there are several, like Scenes from a Marriage, but I asked about TV-series.



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Post by weirdboy » October 31st, 2018, 4:41 am

Well I have bronze in Criterion and MoC and I'm rather far enough away from silver in both of those that it's doubtful I could achieve either this coming month, given my work schedule.

Nevertheless I will of course be watching some movies from these lists.

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Post by funkybusiness » October 31st, 2018, 4:54 am

my above post was in regards to the Criterion list.

I've got the Zatoichi films and the Olympics films, firstly. How long before I lose all interest in the challenge and film viewing in general? Over/under 5 days.

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Post by Daviddoes » October 31st, 2018, 5:20 am

I was looking forward to this challenge and finally checking out Filmstruck :lol: Oh well, I'm still in.

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Post by weirdboy » October 31st, 2018, 5:21 am

I have had the Criterion bluray of Lone Wolf and Cub sitting on my shelf for the better part of a year. I suppose I'll take this opportunity to watch that series.

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Post by funkybusiness » October 31st, 2018, 5:26 am

weirdboy wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 5:21 am
I have had the Criterion bluray of Lone Wolf and Cub sitting on my shelf for the better part of a year. I suppose I'll take this opportunity to watch that series.
same. I got in that hot deal when amazon screwed up the price on the preorder.
but I've also got the Zatoichi films and I don't know if samurai overdose is a real thing but I'm not sure I want to find out.

edit: have you found the secret little fold-out paper thing yet?

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Post by nimimerkillinen » October 31st, 2018, 5:50 am

why the rules just dont state the usual mini-series rule btw? :P

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Post by sol » October 31st, 2018, 1:29 pm

nimimerkillinen wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 5:50 am
why the rules just dont state the usual mini-series rule btw? :P
It's a bit cumbersome and not exactly aesthetically pleasing to have such a lengthy rule written out, especially given that most of already know it. I guess I could say "the usual 60/40 rule" next time though.

But for those confused: "- For mini-series, an episode over 40 minutes counts as one entry, or else they have to be added up to 60 minutes."

And regarding Tanner, I was just going by iCM tags. It might indeed be a miniseries on IMDb (haven't looked).
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Post by sol » October 31st, 2018, 1:33 pm

Goal-wise, I'll be aiming for Bronze on the MoC myself this Challenge:

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Quite possible since a number of MoC films in my blind are shorts.
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Post by OldAle1 » October 31st, 2018, 2:23 pm

As usual for this year, I'll try to hit at least 10, but as with last month my focus will be on the genre challenge, so I doubt I'll get much beyond that 10. Nordic noir on Criterion or MOC? Anyway I have no idea what in particular I'll watch, maybe just Brakhage...

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Post by 72allinncallme » October 31st, 2018, 3:14 pm

sol wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 1:33 pm
Goal-wise, I'll be aiming for Bronze on the MoC myself
Same here. Two movies away so should be doable B)

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Post by nimimerkillinen » October 31st, 2018, 4:00 pm

sol wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 1:29 pm
nimimerkillinen wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 5:50 am
why the rules just dont state the usual mini-series rule btw? :P
It's a bit cumbersome and not exactly aesthetically pleasing to have such a lengthy rule written out, especially given that most of already know it. I guess I could say "the usual 60/40 rule" next time though.

But for those confused: "- For mini-series, an episode over 40 minutes counts as one entry, or else they have to be added up to 60 minutes."
thanks
i found it frustrating and unnecessarely cryptical since its so close the other rules and wasnt aware of it
it takes the same space to say for example: miniseries if its under 40min 1point, otherwise 60min/point
(but better written since im bad at english)

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Post by Knaldskalle » October 31st, 2018, 4:39 pm

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Post by maxwelldeux » October 31st, 2018, 5:35 pm

I like the occasional challenge like this because I often burn out on specific topics. But this pretty much just lets me watch a bunch of awesome classics that I haven't seen yet. Oh gee - not in the mood for a noir? Watch one of the other ~1200 unseen films on these three lists...

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Post by maxwelldeux » October 31st, 2018, 10:26 pm

Question - are all Bergman films eligible? They're not all currently listed as being on the Criterion list, but his complete filmography is part of the Criterion series...

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Post by funkybusiness » October 31st, 2018, 11:34 pm

maxwelldeux wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 10:26 pm
Question - are all Bergman films eligible? They're not all currently listed as being on the Criterion list, but his complete filmography is part of the Criterion series...
way to open up old wounds, maxwell!
(there was a bit of discussion about what is official in the dvd lounge and the criterion thread)

these are the ones that count. this is not everything that is in the almost-released boxset.
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/the+ ... %2Bbergman
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/crit ... %2Bbergman


Titles not 'official' are:
A Ship to India
Waiting Women
A Lesson in Love
Dreams
Brink of Life
The Devil's Eye
All These Women
Hour of the Wolf
Shame
The Rite
The Passion of Anna
Faro Document
The Touch
The Serpent's Egg
Faro Document 1979
From the Life of Marionettes
After the Rehearsal
Saraband


and completely irrelevant and only for completionists, Bergman feature films not official, not in the boxset (tv films not listed):
It Rains On Our Love
Music in Darkness
Prison
This Can't Happen Here

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » October 31st, 2018, 11:45 pm

This challenge would be way more challenging if people actually had to own the criterion/MoC versions of the movies. (Or see them on filmstruck) :D
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Post by albajos » October 31st, 2018, 11:46 pm

Well, it's kind of limited how many times I want to see the 13 I have.
But I can watch the two other versions of Brazil that is on the release.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » October 31st, 2018, 11:48 pm

Well than you would have to buy more ;)

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Post by funkybusiness » October 31st, 2018, 11:50 pm

Lonewolf2003 wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 11:45 pm
This challenge would be way more challenging if people actually had to own the criterion/MoC versions of the movies. (Or see them on filmstruck) :D
harumph I only watch films on 35mm.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » October 31st, 2018, 11:52 pm

funkybusiness wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 11:50 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 11:45 pm
This challenge would be way more challenging if people actually had to own the criterion/MoC versions of the movies. (Or see them on filmstruck) :D
harumph I only watch films on 35mm.
Than you can easily participate in next years 35mm challenge.

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Post by albajos » October 31st, 2018, 11:56 pm

Yes, let's have a
8mm challenge
16mm challenge
and
70mm challenge

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Post by OldAle1 » November 1st, 2018, 12:20 am

funkybusiness wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 11:50 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 11:45 pm
This challenge would be way more challenging if people actually had to own the criterion/MoC versions of the movies. (Or see them on filmstruck) :D
harumph I only watch films on 35mm.
Philistine. I only watch films on prints struck from the original camera negatives, with the director/dp/editor all present, or whoever was involved in striking the print, if any of those individuals are no longer living. And if the projection doesn't suit my standards I burn the theater down, and burn all prints of the film. If it's not PERFECT, nobody should be allowed to see it, ever.

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Post by albajos » November 1st, 2018, 12:24 am

Bah, I only watch movies while they are shot, crouching beneath the camera. No trickery with color correction for me.

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Post by funkybusiness » November 1st, 2018, 12:28 am

that reminds me of a joke from the criterion forum regarding the collapse of filmstruck and the potential degradation of physical media.

http://criterionforum.org/forum/viewtop ... 85#p637285

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Post by funkybusiness » November 1st, 2018, 1:44 am

unnecessary question for our lovely host: films on multiple applicable lists count for only one entry, yes? Such as For All Mankind, which is both Criterion and MoC.

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Post by maxwelldeux » November 1st, 2018, 5:05 am

funkybusiness wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 11:34 pm
maxwelldeux wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 10:26 pm
Question - are all Bergman films eligible? They're not all currently listed as being on the Criterion list, but his complete filmography is part of the Criterion series...
way to open up old wounds, maxwell!
(there was a bit of discussion about what is official in the dvd lounge and the criterion thread)
Heh. I remembered the discussion (hence the question) but not the conclusion. Good to know. Thanks!

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Post by sol » November 1st, 2018, 9:56 am

funkybusiness wrote:
November 1st, 2018, 1:44 am
unnecessary question for our lovely host: films on multiple applicable lists count for only one entry, yes? Such as For All Mankind, which is both Criterion and MoC.
Yes, only 1 point per entry, no matter whether it appears on overlapping lists.

I was actually think of having a side challenge for overlapping movies, but there's no way that I have the spare time to track any such stats.

And yes - everybody has made the right call about the ineligibility of those Bergman movies.
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Post by jgwr » November 1st, 2018, 11:02 am

OK, I'll join for this. Been away too long.

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Post by sol » November 1st, 2018, 12:35 pm

It starts!

1a. The Boat (1921) 27mins
1b. Convict 13 (1920) 19mins
1c. The Cook (1918) 21mins

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It was interesting to see Buster Keaton as a family man in The Boat, married with two children no less (hardly his usual sort of role) and yet I did not find this as funny as I hoped. The rocking boat gag has nothing on the spinning home from Keaton's One Week, the collapsing house near the start pales against Steamboat Bill Jr., etc. Really good special effects for the time though. Convict 13 on the other hand was excellent; Keaton as his usual hapless self and some pretty funny mistaken identity gags and Keystone Kops style routines in the mix. The end was a bit of a letdown, but otherwise I would easily rank this as among Keaton's best shorts. And Joe Roberts is very funny as the 'crazed prisoner' too. As for The Cook, it has probably the meatiest Buster Keaton role in any Fatty Arbuckle short that I have seen so far. Here, he totally steals the show as the waiter to Arbuckle's restaurant cook - a wait person who manages to get distracted by not only the customers but the live entertainment too. Arbuckle tries to win some laughs dancing in pots and pans, but Keaton has the most fun and kooky chaos. Oh, and there's a dog that climbs ladders here too.
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Post by albajos » November 1st, 2018, 7:02 pm

01. CC #391 If... (1968) UK 19 official lists 5 054 checks

As My Collection is down on Criterion's site here it is on imdb:
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls069957569/
Of those I haven't seen 2 versions of Brazil, and Something Wild yet.

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