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Post by maxwelldeux » October 8th, 2017, 10:17 pm

Methods
Pretty simple methodology - I went to the Challenges Index (thanks for keeping that up-to-date, btw) and followed links to all the official challenges. I copied the final results (usually in the first post, though there were a couple of exceptions) into Excel. I did a little data cleanup (using consistent usernames and getting the results to appear as numbers), then assigned ranks and computed scoring (details below). From there, it was just some minor Excel magic, and boom - results.

Scoring
I used a version of NASCAR scoring. Points are based on the number of participants in a challenge and the final rank. So, if there were 20 participants in a challenge, the 1st place person would get 20 points, 2nd place gets 19 points, 3rd place gets 18 points, and so on. For ties, I assigned the average of the points that would have been earned for all those ranks. So, continuing with this example, if two people tied for 4th place (out of 20), each of them would receive (17+16)/2 = 16.5 points. The person in 6th would receive 15 points, and so on. Finally, to be included, you had to have watched at least one film for the official challenge.

**Edited 8 January 2019**
Overall Official Challenges Leaderboard (2011-Dec 2018)Show
Overall Official Challenges Leaderboard
Rank Participant Total Score # Challenges Competed In Total Number of films Watched for Official Challenges Average Rank in Challenges Number of Challenge Wins
1 allisoncm 1893.5 142 3104 11.10 6
2 flavo5000 1653.5 68 4906 7.94 15
3 3eyes 1644.5 147 1965 11.83 4
4 cinephage 1479.5 153 1586 14.23 1
5 psychotronicbeatnik 1323 44 2600 5.00 6
6 72allinncallme 1320 50 2583 7.10 7
7 sol 1297 56 1937 8.96 3
8 jdidaco 1243.5 49 2427 8.41 4
9 jeroeno 1217.5 55 2485 8.27 12
10 frbrown 1197.5 80 1995 12.71 2
11 maxwelldeux 1141.5 56 1606 11.75 1
12 RogerTheMovieManiac88 1057 44 1566 10.98 2
13 albajos 1014 52 2487 8.38 9
14 VincentPrice 1001 84 1808 15.73 0
15 klaus78 997.5 50 1589 9.68 4
16 ororama 981.5 78 962 16.28 0
17 Mate_cosido 975.5 43 1235 13.00 1
18 Sebby 972.5 66 1257 17.74 0
19 OldAle1 968.5 42 1127 12.24 0
20 Daviddoes 916 54 1758 11.02 4
21 hurluberlu 864 47 1026 15.70 0
21 weirdboy 864 46 1206 14.50 0
23 ChrisReynolds 822.5 48 1249 12.10 3
24 Fergenaprido 781.5 69 647 16.80 1
25 sushantv10 742 60 1590 9.18 10
26 nimimerkillinen 691 56 669 18.82 1
27 Knaldskalle 689.5 72 740 19.33 1
28 Simba63 643.5 24 1297 10.38 3
29 vortexsurfer 605 34 631 17.88 0
30 HVM 567 50 931 8.66 2
31 clemmetarey 535.5 36 551 14.97 0
32 burneyfan 523 40 1061 7.63 4
33 Cippenham 510.5 52 730 12.81 1
34 tommy_leazaq 486.5 58 479 17.74 0
35 mightysparks 474 35 1383 13.29 3
36 funkybusiness 471.5 49 450 19.71 0
37 mjf314 467 46 935 7.54 9
38 PeacefulAnarchy 459 25 990 8.44 4
39 tourdesb 427.5 23 1156 5.09 6
40 Mochard 421 34 607 17.50 0
41 India Istanbul 414.5 21 544 19.14 1
42 zuma 402 27 695 9.00 2
43 te18 396 20 824 14.05 1
44 XxXApathy420XxX 391.5 32 519 14.75 2
45 blocho 378 54 283 24.72 0
46 Nopros 375.5 25 689 8.52 2
47 mathiasa 373.5 30 398 22.30 0
48 kingink 373 23 855 4.70 3
49 peeptoad 372 16 420 15.69 0
50 Kasparius 368.5 31 640 13.87 4
51 St. Gloede 338.5 24 698 9.04 3
52 blueboybob 337.5 14 591 16.21 1
53 Gorro 329.5 20 485 15.45 0
54 jgwr 319.5 31 365 13.77 0
55 Lilarcor 319 41 308 15.73 2
56 45MinuteZoom 316 24 432 15.88 1
57 WalterNeff 305 17 904 5.24 2
58 tarr 296.5 23 439 10.78 1
59 morrison-dylan-fan 294 19 275 21.05 0
60 jvv 292 38 395 18.87 1
61 Cocoa 291 16 537 12.38 2
61 kierkegaardian 291 6 780 6.00 2
63 metaller 290 19 384 11.95 0
64 Lonewolf2003 289 28 286 18.64 0
65 Melvelet 284 45 263 16.80 0
66 Ivan0716 278.5 11 509 12.73 2
67 Leopardi 278 8 445 16.63 0
68 PUNQ 268 14 733 6.86 3
69 Kowry 266.5 27 355 16.26 0
70 Wise Jake 265 15 344 14.47 0
71 Nathan Treadway 264 24 354 12.92 0
72 Eve-Lang-El-Coup 262.5 10 442 4.40 0
73 sortile9io 242.5 12 490 3.58 3
74 brokenface 241.5 29 359 11.14 1
75 Armoreska 239.5 19 635 5.47 4
76 monclivie 238.5 8 278 17.25 0
77 Perception de Ambiguity 234.5 10 420 8.00 2
78 Hunziker 228.5 17 323 21.06 0
78 jonas2k 228.5 21 280 14.00 0
80 connordenney 220.5 54 180 22.20 0
81 edward5 209.5 11 278 12.09 0
82 zzzorf 198.5 15 193 25.80 0
83 Carmel1379 197.5 12 252 18.17 0
84 themagician 189.5 17 337 11.53 1
85 shugs 178 12 181 27.00 0
86 RBG 177.5 14 130 19.79 0
87 mondovertigo 176.5 11 231 18.36 1
88 Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi 174 26 148 17.04 0
89 SeanMX12 171.5 15 436 10.53 1
90 Timec 169.5 23 226 13.57 0
91 Hippiemans 166 17 132 29.41 0
92 Tomelce 165 16 229 12.44 0
92 Gregmnewman 165 16 262 11.56 0
94 1SO 161.5 4 205 13.25 0
95 jajusu 161 7 275 6.71 0
96 Tarris1 151.5 12 155 22.00 0
96 ryebass 151.5 16 207 13.69 1
98 redcard29 151 10 273 9.40 0
99 esiersdale 150.5 21 241 10.29 1
100 Sir Plebeian 145 10 225 11.80 0
101 Ataraxic 138 12 321 7.08 2
102 flaiky 137 9 108 20.56 0
103 afirm 133 15 140 11.93 0
104 sennaho 127.5 5 213 27.00 0
105 perceval 121.5 11 111 15.73 0
106 sheikofhyrule 119.5 14 163 15.21 0
107 beeswax 113.5 9 292 5.67 1
108 max-scl 110 9 171 10.89 0
109 ormazd 108 6 470 5.33 1
110 Lammetje 106 8 76 12.63 0
111 maksler 101 6 122 8.50 0
112 Nuclearplanet 100 17 153 22.53 0
113 Good_Will_Harding 99.5 5 114 27.00 0
114 andreischz 97 7 114 10.57 0
115 aces 95 9 180 8.00 1
116 Eva_L 93 4 146 28.75 0
117 greenhorg 92 3 130 23.00 0
117 lampadatriste 92 13 154 11.08 0
117 b_n 92 8 144 13.00 0
120 wowwee123 91.5 21 89 21.62 0
121 timmy_501 90.5 4 142 12.25 0
122 Gershwin 90 14 92 12.57 0
123 medium cool 89 2 126 15.50 0
124 insomnius 85.5 5 99 25.40 0
125 rnilsson19 82 3 93 15.00 0
126 Cinematiamo 81.5 3 307 5.67 2
127 Buksemannen 78 6 113 7.67 1
127 marazmatique 78 6 88 28.50 0
129 rohit 77 6 163 8.83 0
130 SkilledLunatic 76.5 8 84 16.00 0
131 rokp 75.5 11 99 10.55 0
132 el-thedeath 73 2 88 13.00 0
133 Mario Gaborović 72.5 5 200 3.20 1
134 paul281f 71.5 4 114 24.75 0
135 joachimt 68 9 119 18.11 1
136 prat 66.5 5 180 5.40 1
137 Josh_Glover 64 3 55 12.00 0
138 Bal3x 63.5 5 148 9.00 0
139 edkrak 62.5 11 63 23.27 0
140 fear of 13 62 6 49 29.50 0
140 sacmersault 62 3 53 14.67 0
140 Straka 62 2 44 9.00 0
143 globetrotter 61 12 64 15.33 1
144 Kublai Khan 58 4 106 8.50 0
145 Samar 57.5 6 62 10.50 0
146 noruas 52 3 177 7.33 0
147 Harco 51.5 3 43 22.67 0
148 Level 50.5 2 62 27.50 0
149 wuzzawuzz 50 3 127 4.33 1
149 LarsC 50 4 82 7.50 0
151 lynchs 48.5 8 19 26.38 0
152 Spocksbrain 48 1 160 2.00 0
153 Samlion 47.5 3 73 5.67 0
154 Renegade 46 2 58 15.00 0
155 George Bailey 45.5 10 63 15.00 0
156 GruesomeTwosome 45 3 38 38.33 0
157 insomnia 44.5 4 76 10.50 0
157 Lakigigar 44.5 7 38 35.86 0
159 bjornam 43.5 4 39 21.50 0
160 pjim 40.5 7 54 16.57 0
161 nicolino 39 2 73 22.00 0
161 kisbye 39 2 60 4.00 0
163 Dolwphin 38.5 8 51 16.75 0
164 Cynical Cinephile 37.5 3 42 20.33 0
165 tirefeet 36.5 7 37 10.86 0
165 Kobrakai 36.5 2 32 9.50 0
167 Limedebois 36 3 91 4.67 0
167 idiotwind 36 3 80 15.00 0
169 Chemosh6969 34 4 77 11.00 1
170 wasabi 33 2 106 22.00 1
170 lisa- 33 2 64 2.50 0
170 bubar 33 3 76 9.00 0
173 darkflame 30 5 42 12.80 0
173 TraverseTown 30 2 53 21.00 0
173 MMAlpha 30 2 63 7.00 0
176 priddy_44 29 2 49 8.50 0
177 Onderhond 28 3 31 21.67 0
178 hiimstacey 27.5 1 29 24.00 0
178 ignatzkat 27.5 3 62 7.33 1
178 deepspeaks 27.5 4 34 13.50 0
181 beavis 27 2 124 2.00 1
182 Enigma 25.5 5 30 13.20 0
183 Pain 25 3 108 10.33 1
183 slylingual24 25 2 26 10.50 0
183 onshy 25 3 28 11.33 0
183 Bobby Peru 25 4 29 17.00 0
187 MilenaFlaherty 24.5 3 36 8.33 0
188 lisagirl 23.5 2 19 14.00 0
188 Revo 23.5 2 91 8.00 0
190 schwrz 23 2 26 9.50 0
190 implar 23 2 22 20.50 0
192 AdamH 22.5 4 33 15.25 0
192 Abdullah ozu 22.5 1 10 20.00 0
194 mimurph1 22 1 39 11.00 0
195 soitgoes 21.5 2 33 14.00 0
196 JiraffeJustin 21 4 33 13.25 0
197 TheMadcapLaughs 20 1 34 8.00 0
197 ca_horror_fan 20 1 32 7.00 0
199 log89 19.5 4 24 31.00 0
200 beasterne 19 1 15 17.00 0
200 Micron 19 1 25 3.00 0
200 Chilton 19 1 15 8.00 0
203 bunnycorns 18.5 2 17 27.50 0
204 musikurt 17 1 31 5.00 0
204 fori 17 1 15 7.00 0
204 EssexMutant 17 1 51 1.00 1
204 Mulholland 17 1 38 2.00 0
204 monty 17 6 18 19.17 0
209 Y U M E 16.5 1 19 5.00 0
210 Gonzalito199 16 2 9 30.00 0
211 Wonderful Rainbow 15 3 13 24.33 0
211 Laydback 15 1 34 6.00 0
211 filmbantha 15 1 15 35.00 0
214 Ebbywebby 14.5 1 10 23.00 0
215 Kloraliv 14 1 25 4.00 0
216 Toasterstrudles 13 1 15 7.00 0
216 gerryt 13 1 32 8.00 0
216 Apu 13 1 20 3.00 0
219 inmybubble 12.5 1 13 10.00 0
220 SeVKiTT 12 2 6 15.00 0
220 Oliuj 12 1 10 31.00 0
220 drbop 12 1 19 6.00 0
223 RedHawk10 11.5 1 10 51.00 0
223 ataraxick 11.5 1 19 3.00 0
225 Rigters 11 1 19 9.00 0
225 RollingWonder 11 1 22 4.00 0
225 Coopaloop 11 1 14 6.00 0
228 Innocuous Bird 10.5 2 24 16.50 0
229 BadSmile 10 1 15 21.00 0
230 dormice 9.5 1 9 12.00 0
230 Houston 9.5 1 4 17.00 0
232 xianjiro 9 1 5 34.00 0
233 Alberto 8 1 10 14.00 0
233 takk71 8 2 8 22.00 0
233 Muellwind 8 1 15 3.00 0
233 Ekaterina- 8 1 24 9.00 0
237 Quartoxuma 7 1 4 14.00 0
237 wezy 7 1 12 15.00 0
237 Rad82 7 1 5 13.00 0
237 Halie 7 1 5 20.00 0
237 jerilee 7 1 3 10.00 0
242 micmacs 6.5 2 3 34.00 0
242 Pgonzalez 6.5 2 8 32.50 0
244 jocularities 6 1 4 19.00 0
244 pongy_papaya 6 1 7 11.00 0
246 magnusbe 5.5 2 5 19.50 0
246 fkaymak 5.5 1 5 8.00 0
246 CMT 5.5 1 4 44.00 0
249 deepak1990 5 1 3 17.00 0
249 ErikSchierboom 5 1 3 37.00 0
249 Chrilleee 5 1 9 16.00 0
249 SirFigNewton 5 1 2 22.00 0
249 zhangalan 5 1 6 11.00 0
254 lvn0716 4.5 1 5 17.00 0
254 Elmozg 4.5 1 6 12.00 0
254 OS314 4.5 1 2 19.00 0
254 kingclio 4.5 1 4 10.00 0
258 spinal tapper 4 1 3 22.00 0
258 Jimi Antiloop 4 1 1 27.00 0
258 DeanWindow 4 1 2 17.00 0
261 essiersdale 3.5 1 1 11.00 0
262 billyvaneyck 3 1 4 23.00 0
262 cinewest 3 1 1 35.00 0
262 tobias 3 1 3 53.00 0
262 Hanspelling 3 1 3 19.00 0
262 avid 3 1 2 22.00 0
267 watchayakan 2.5 1 2 15.00 0
267 vendetta 2.5 1 2 35.00 0
267 Oakie 2.5 1 1 23.00 0
267 Panunzio 2.5 1 1 14.00 0
267 Lukewaffe 2.5 2 2 16.00 0
272 matthewscott8 2 1 1 36.00 0
272 Alfredo Garcia 2 1 4 31.00 0
274 Run4thetop 1.5 1 1 50.00 0
274 Jay Mars 1.5 1 1 12.00 0
276 dombrewer 1 1 2 21.00 0
276 jort13 1 1 1 22.00 0
2018 Challenge Series and Awards
2018 Official Challenges Leaderboard (2018 Complete)Show
2018 Official Challenges Leaderboard

Rank Participant Total Score # Challenges Competed In Total Number of films Watched for Official Challenges Average Rank in Challenges Number of Challenge Wins
1 psychotronicbeatnik 1157 36 2190 4.17 4
2 72allinncallme 1027 36 1605 7.69 4
3 jdidaco 972 36 1676 9.17 1
4 sol 964.5 36 1282 9.33 2
5 maxwelldeux 904 36 1127 11.00 1
6 RogerTheMovieManiac88 883.5 36 1242 11.39 2
7 OldAle1 860.5 36 953 12.22 0
8 jeroeno 838.5 31 1294 9.58 4
9 flavo5000 830.5 35 1923 12.63 6
10 Mate_cosido 820.5 36 934 13.22 0
11 hurluberlu 688.5 36 696 16.56 0
12 allisoncm 676.5 36 735 16.94 0
13 weirdboy 598.5 31 639 17.23 0
14 3eyes 587 36 467 19.75 0
15 nimimerkillinen 535 34 453 20.26 0
16 vortexsurfer 515.5 25 532 17.72 0
17 Sebby 512.5 35 524 21.26 0
18 Fergenaprido 512 36 386 21.39 0
19 Simba63 482.5 19 865 11.58 3
20 albajos 464 18 1001 11.17 4
21 ororama 401.5 26 336 22.42 0
22 frbrown 393 20 481 20.10 0
23 India Istanbul 368 18 494 18.50 1
24 cinephage 362.5 34 250 25.88 0
25 VincentPrice 328 23 366 24.87 0
26 peeptoad 322.5 13 349 14.15 0
27 blueboybob 321.5 13 552 17.08 1
28 klaus78 285 13 313 16.54 0
29 Ivan0716 278.5 11 509 12.73 2
30 tommy_leazaq 258.5 20 187 24.70 0
31 clemmetarey 255.5 13 204 21.00 0
32 Knaldskalle 243 21 193 27.10 0
33 Daviddoes 240.5 11 320 19.36 0
34 morrison-dylan-fan 236 14 207 21.79 0
35 funkybusiness 209.5 16 182 27.44 0
36 Gorro 202 9 349 13.22 0
37 Eve-Lang-El-Coup 201 7 330 4.71 0
38 zzzorf 198.5 15 193 25.80 0
39 ChrisReynolds 198 10 213 20.90 0
40 blocho 193.5 36 125 30.11 0
41 shugs 178 12 181 27.00 0
42 Hippiemans 166 17 132 29.41 0
43 Lonewolf2003 145.5 11 133 26.18 0
44 Hunziker 141.5 10 153 26.00 0
45 Tarris1 123.5 9 115 25.00 0
46 XxXApathy420XxX 119.5 6 112 25.00 0
47 te18 119 6 140 24.33 0
47 edward5 119 5 97 15.60 0
49 sortile9io 118 4 130 5.00 0
49 flaiky 118 8 84 20.88 0
51 Nopros 114 5 134 14.40 0
52 45MinuteZoom 112.5 7 107 23.57 0
53 monclivie 101 3 105 15.33 0
54 PUNQ 96 3 172 8.67 0
55 tourdesb 91.5 3 155 7.00 0
56 jvv 88.5 15 45 28.93 0
57 RBG 87 5 53 22.20 0
58 Mochard 85.5 7 65 27.71 0
59 mathiasa 85 10 77 30.70 0
60 sushantv10 84.5 5 122 24.80 0
61 St. Gloede 82 3 80 7.33 0
61 rnilsson19 82 3 93 15.00 0
63 Melvelet 73 9 47 29.00 0
64 Lilarcor 67.5 6 31 28.00 0
65 Cocoa 66 2 154 9.00 0
66 fear of 13 62 6 49 29.50 0
66 Straka 62 2 44 9.00 0
68 connordenney 59 12 36 36.58 0
68 kierkegaardian 59 1 116 5.00 0
70 Good_Will_Harding 58.5 3 61 26.33 0
71 zuma 55.5 2 89 7.00 1
71 tarr 55.5 3 32 29.67 0
73 Nathan Treadway 52 4 31 21.75 0
73 medium cool 52 1 63 12.00 0
75 lynchs 48.5 8 19 26.38 0
76 1SO 48 1 57 16.00 0
77 Leopardi 47 1 56 17.00 0
78 Renegade 46 2 58 15.00 0
79 insomnius 41 2 50 13.00 0
80 GruesomeTwosome 35 2 23 35.00 0
80 Lakigigar 35 6 34 39.67 0
82 wasabi 33 2 106 22.00 1
83 Kublai Khan 30 1 38 9.00 0
83 mjf314 30 1 74 3.00 0
85 max-scl 29 1 12 10.00 0
85 mightysparks 29 3 26 36.00 0
87 jajusu 28 1 60 3.00 0
88 sacmersault 25 1 9 12.00 0
89 mondovertigo 24 3 23 42.00 0
89 Carmel1379 24 1 20 39.00 0
91 themagician 22 1 16 17.00 0
92 jgwr 21 1 8 19.00 0
93 WalterNeff 20 1 11 22.00 0
94 beasterne 19 1 15 17.00 0
95 brokenface 16.5 2 7 31.00 0
96 filmbantha 15 1 15 35.00 0
96 joachimt 15 1 11 25.00 0
98 Ebbywebby 14.5 1 10 23.00 0
99 wowwee123 12.5 3 9 35.33 0
100 Oliuj 12 1 10 31.00 0
101 RedHawk10 11.5 1 10 51.00 0
102 marazmatique 8 1 5 56.00 0
103 micmacs 6.5 2 3 34.00 0
103 Gershwin 6.5 1 3 20.00 0
105 jocularities 6 1 4 19.00 0
106 burneyfan 4.5 1 3 38.00 0
107 spinal tapper 4 1 3 22.00 0
107 Jimi Antiloop 4 1 1 27.00 0
109 cinewest 3 1 1 35.00 0
110 vendetta 2.5 1 2 35.00 0
110 globetrotter 2.5 1 1 37.00 0
112 matthewscott8 2 1 1 36.00 0
113 ryebass 1 1 1 63.00 0
[Apologies - it was my intention to keep all the years' leaderboards contained in a single post; however, I ran up against the character limit on Zetaboards, so I'm putting them in individual posts and linking to them.]

Prior Years' Leaderboards
2017 Leaderboard
2016 Leaderboard
2015 Leaderboard
2014 Leaderboard
2013 Leaderboard
2012 Leaderboard
2011 Leaderboard

Challenge-Specific Leaderboards
Animation
Cult/Grindhouse/Drive-In
Documentary
Films Directed by Women
French
Horror
Noir
Russian
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Post by frbrown » October 9th, 2017, 12:06 am

Interesting.

72allinn is strangely low - his numbers look comparable to those of flavo and jdidaco.


2017 Official Challenges Leader Board
ParticipantTotal Score# Challenges Competed InTotal Number of Films Watched for Official ChallengesNumber of Challenge Wins
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2 wins in 4 attempts - impressive :poshclap:
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Post by maxwelldeux » October 9th, 2017, 1:24 am

frbrown on Oct 8 2017, 06:06:02 PM wrote:Interesting.

72allinn is strangely low - his numbers look comparable to those of flavo and jdidaco.
I see what you're saying, but it's just a weird quirk of the scoring. flavo5000 and jdidaco had slightly higher average ranks, and 72allinncallme had the misfortune of dominating some less popular challenges (most notably the Indian challenge, with only 11 participants, so only 11 points for 1st place).

I was super impressed with albajos and cinephage for participating in all 18 challenges so far this year, as well as you (frbrown), sol, 3eyes, and ororama for being there more than half the time.

Of course, I'm a huge stats nerd, so I find all of this interesting. :whistling:

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Post by Knaldskalle » October 9th, 2017, 4:57 am

Interesting meta-challenge, Maxwell. Without going into a deeper analysis of the scoring I'm guessing it's better to participate in few challenges and then really work to win them, rather than participating in "everything" and then only watch 1-2 movies?

Since we have all the old challenges archived, we could actually go back and figure out who "won" the annual Official Challenge Leaderboard every year. Might be fun for those so inclined.
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Post by cinephage » October 9th, 2017, 7:18 am

This is an interesting, and rather unexpected, at least for me, result. As I'm a slow viewer, I almost never win challenges, but I usually enjoy participating in most. This ranking rewards consistency rather than performance on a concentrated period, and this is closer to my approach to film-watching.
Diversity preserves me from movie fatigue (at least until now).

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Post by sortile9io » October 9th, 2017, 8:59 am

maxwelldeux on Oct 8 2017, 04:17:18 PM wrote:And if there's interest, I'll keep going backwards in time and create leader boards for other years, as well as an all-time leader board.
An all-time board would be great. Also an extra column on the left with ranking positions.

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Post by Armoreska » October 9th, 2017, 9:54 am

Oh man 740 movies for challenges. I've got 0. Maybe 2018.
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Post by cinephage » October 9th, 2017, 10:36 am

I've watched 413 films in 2017... These 169 watches mean 41% of my watches are for challenges. Not bad, not bad...

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Post by mathiasa » October 9th, 2017, 10:38 am

Horror challenge will give a lot of points :clap:

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Post by sol » October 9th, 2017, 10:41 am

This is a fantastic idea. :clap: I hope you keep it up since it will give me much needed extra motivation to participate in more Challenges, both this month and into the future (though I'm not sure how I'll cope with 36 Official Challenges next year). Really cool in case to rank #2. :thumbsup:
maxwelldeux on wrote:I was super impressed with albajos and cinephage for participating in all 18 challenges so far this year, as well as you (frbrown), sol, 3eyes, and ororama for being there more than half the time.
Even more impressive considering that I wasn't registered here in January. This means that I have participated in 14 out of 16 possible Challenges. Didn't realise that my participation was anywhere near that high! (D:)
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Post by sol » October 9th, 2017, 10:47 am

cinephage on Oct 9 2017, 04:36:24 AM wrote:I've watched 413 films in 2017... These 169 watches mean 41% of my watches are for challenges. Not bad, not bad...
I think the accuracy of total films seen can be disputed since there are probably a few dozen films that I have counted towards two simultaneous Challenges, and I wouldn't be alone with that.

If we assume the total is accurate though, that means that 399 out of 517 films (77%) I have seen so far this year have been for Official Challenges.

Oh, wait, that number is excluding Horror Challenge viewings, so the percentage is probably even higher. Some shorts in there too, but I'm guessing around 80%.
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Post by 72allinncallme » October 9th, 2017, 11:19 am

Hmm, I think number of films watched should get included in the score somehow. Perhaps; All movies watched in all challenges divided on number of challenges participated. So in Albajos case he gets 290.5 points (249.5p + 741/18 = 290.5). But maybe I’m just saying that because I think I would benefit from that. :whistling:

But great initiative and an interesting read Max! :)
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Post by sol » October 9th, 2017, 11:28 am

72allinncallme on Oct 9 2017, 05:19:29 AM wrote:But maybe I’m just saying that because I think I would benefit from that. :whistling:
Yeah, stop thinking of ways to climb above me in the rankings. :P I can't help it if hardly anyone participated in the one Challenge where you watched over 50% of all movies viewed. ;)
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Post by Lilarcor » October 9th, 2017, 2:12 pm

Great effort! Consider me interested in the all-time rankings.

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Post by frbrown » October 9th, 2017, 3:15 pm

Knaldskalle on Oct 8 2017, 10:57:25 PM wrote:Without going into a deeper analysis of the scoring I'm guessing it's better to participate in few challenges and then really work to win them, rather than participating in "everything" and then only watch 1-2 movies?
It doesn't look that way to me. I participated in 13 challenges and won none; 72allinn participated in 8 and won 3 (and watched 300 films more than I did), and he's ranked below me. Tourdesb participated in 4 challenges and won 2, and he only ranks at #20.

Only 6 people participated in more than half of the challenges, and all 6 of us are ranked in the top 10.
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Post by maxwelldeux » October 9th, 2017, 5:37 pm

Glad you all found this interesting! I'll keep going back in time, and create an all time leader board, as well as ones for each individual year. With the way I've structured the data (well, once I'm through with this), I can also easily generate leader boards for regular challenges (e.g., an all-time leaderboard for the official Horror challenges), as interest dictates.
Knaldskalle on wrote:Interesting meta-challenge, Maxwell. Without going into a deeper analysis of the scoring I'm guessing it's better to participate in few challenges and then really work to win them, rather than participating in "everything" and then only watch 1-2 movies?
Yeah - like frbrown said, I think more challenges is better. I'm actually a decent example - I participated in 9 of the challenges, but never really went after a win. A small handful of films each time, and I'm in the top quarter. Even 1 or 2 films, which may count for a challenge, even though you're not actively pursuing that challenge, will move you up the leaderboard pretty quick.
sortile9io on wrote:Also an extra column on the left with ranking positions.
Good idea! I'll get right on that.
sol on wrote:I think the accuracy of total films seen can be disputed since there are probably a few dozen films that I have counted towards two simultaneous Challenges, and I wouldn't be alone with that.
Very true, and not really something I can control - I just consider it an embedded bonus in the scoring.
72allinncallme on wrote:Hmm, I think number of films watched should get included in the score somehow. Perhaps; All movies watched in all challenges divided on number of challenges participated. So in Albajos case he gets 290.5 points (249.5p + 741/18 = 290.5).
Interesting idea - I'll play around with some numbers and see what I can come up with.

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Post by Armoreska » October 9th, 2017, 6:38 pm

The number of participants shouldn't have much weight on the score. Watching 2 or 3 movies is not actual participating
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Post by maxwelldeux » October 9th, 2017, 7:03 pm

Armoreska on Oct 9 2017, 12:38:53 PM wrote:The number of participants shouldn't have much weight on the score. Watching 2 or 3 movies is not actual participating
I understand your point, but I disagree. I view the challenges as a fun way to get out of your comfort zone and watch things you wouldn't ordinarily be drawn to. Even if you watch one film, it should count towards the challenge.

Then there's the practical issue you bring up about the scoring system, which is an open question and worth discussing. I chose this version of scoring because I wanted to give higher weight to wins in challenges with more participants; winning a challenge with 50 participants is definitely more impressive than winning a challenge with 5 participants. Off the top of my head, I see a few possible scoring systems:

a) The one I'm currently using (see first post)
b) A version of above, with each challenge weighted equally. 1st place gets 100 points, 2nd place gets 99 points, etc. Ties handled the same. With this, coming in last place in the Indian challenge (with only 11 participants) would get you 90 points (assuming no ties). Where as coming in last place in a challenge with 50 participants would get you 51 points (again, assuming no ties).
c) A percentage-based system. Each challenge is worth 100 points, and they get assigned based on the percent of total films watched. For example, in the Indian challenge, 72allinncallme would have received 52.04 points for utterly dominating the challenge, having watched 51 films of 98 total watches (i.e., (51/98)*100 = 52.04).
d) Others...

So what are people's thoughts on scoring?

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Post by albajos » October 9th, 2017, 7:08 pm

No need to overdo it. To say that 1-2 isn't enough. Well, what is enough? 7? 31?

Doing it like this makes it easy to understand, easy to calculate for everyone, and stays fun.

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Post by cinephage » October 9th, 2017, 10:17 pm

Armoreska on Oct 9 2017, 12:38:53 PM wrote:The number of participants shouldn't have much weight on the score. Watching 2 or 3 movies is not actual participating
I also disagree. When someone posts his participation in a challenge, he/she becomes part of it. There is an awareness, an involvement, there. However limited, this involvement reveals an intent to be part of the event, of sharing with the other participants.

I wouldn't discount this... In my case, I know it can weigh on my viewing choices, even though it's only one or two movies (I usually pick more, but get distracted for whatever reason)...

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Post by sortile9io » October 10th, 2017, 8:48 am

Without complicating it more you could use number of wins, participations and films to break the total score ties. Take for instance, in the lower part of the table:

fori 17 1 15 0
Nopros 17 1 21 0
musikurt 17 1 31 0

musikurt should probably be first and fori last.
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Post by maxwelldeux » October 10th, 2017, 9:30 am

sortile9io on Oct 10 2017, 02:48:37 AM wrote:Without complicating it more you could use number of wins, participations and films to break the total score ties.
I like the idea! I hadn't thought too deeply about tiebreakers, but what you said makes a lot of sense.

PS to all: I'm slowly moving backwards in time as I gather these data. I have the last 3 months of 2016 complete. Do y'all want periodic updates, or hold off until I have large chunks (e.g., years) complete?

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Post by albajos » October 10th, 2017, 9:45 am

Years are the most tidy way to do it. Thanks.

Just a note about ties with a challenge, would it not make more sense to give:
1. 8 points
2. 7 points
3. 6 points
3. 6 points
3. 6 points
6. 3 points
7. 2 points
8. 1 points
rather than an average?

Also, if you want to reward people actually winning, give those two extra points and the runner-up one extra point. (like we do in Eurovision SC)

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Post by maxwelldeux » October 10th, 2017, 5:57 pm

albajos on Oct 10 2017, 03:45:43 AM wrote:Years are the most tidy way to do it. Thanks.

Just a note about ties with a challenge, would it not make more sense to give:
1. 8 points
2. 7 points
3. 6 points
3. 6 points
3. 6 points
6. 3 points
7. 2 points
8. 1 points
rather than an average?

Also, if you want to reward people actually winning, give those two extra points and the runner-up one extra point. (like we do in Eurovision SC)
Years it is, unless there are strong objections.

On the scoring (nerd warning):

If you view the points as purely rankings-based (looking up), then yes, what you said makes more sense. In your example, those three people who tied for 3rd place have only two people above them in rankings, so each of them could earn 6 points. But it is also equally true that those three people who tied for 3rd place tied for fourth from the bottom, so if you allocate scores bottom up, they should all receive 4 points. The current scoring system splits the difference.

Another way too look at it is that there are [N(N+1)]/2 points to allocate, where N is the number of participants in a given challenge (this is the sum of the numbers from 1 to N). With 8 participants, this would be 36 total points to allocate. The current scoring allocates exactly 36 points, whereas the rankings-based scoring would assign 39 points (and would assign more if there were additional ties). Think prize money - the three people who tied for 3rd would each receive the average of the purses of the 3rd, 4th, and 5th place finishes.

OK. All that said, I'm certainly open to modifying the scoring based on what consensus we reach. To be honest, my default option is going to be sticking with what I've done, largely out of laziness. But I'm happy to change the scoring based on thoughts around here.

Finally, bonus points - I'm cool with that. Thoughts?

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Post by albajos » October 10th, 2017, 6:05 pm

maxwelldeux on Oct 10 2017, 11:57:29 AM wrote:who tied for 3rd place have only two people above them in rankings, so each of them could earn 6 points. But it is also equally true that those three people who tied for 3rd place tied for fourth from the bottom, so if you allocate scores bottom up, they should all receive 4 points.
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Post by maxwelldeux » October 10th, 2017, 6:19 pm

albajos on Oct 10 2017, 12:05:38 PM wrote:
maxwelldeux on Oct 10 2017, 11:57:29 AM wrote:who tied for 3rd place have only two people above them in rankings, so each of them could earn 6 points. But it is also equally true that those three people who tied for 3rd place tied for fourth from the bottom, so if you allocate scores bottom up, they should all receive 4 points.
But the glas is half full, not half empty :)
Maybe from where you're sitting... :whistling: :banana:

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Post by 3eyes » October 10th, 2017, 11:23 pm

I'm not going to weigh in on scoring, but I do appreciate this and would be delighted to see the other years/total stats in whatever form.

I must say I was a bit startled to find myself in the top 10 as I haven't participated nearly this much this year as before. Until recently I have tended to report anything I happen to see that fits a current challenge I'm not otherwise interested in, but I don't really see any virtue in that.
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Post by maxwelldeux » October 11th, 2017, 6:28 am

Updated the Top Post. It now includes the current status of the Overall leaderboard (2016-present data), and has separate tables for 2017 and 2016. Enjoy! And please let me know what feedback you have...

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Post by sortile9io » October 11th, 2017, 8:43 am

There must be something wrong with the number of wins column in 2017. I have one even though I haven't actually won anything this year and PeacefulAnarchy has two wins but only one participation.

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Post by albajos » October 11th, 2017, 8:55 am

Well, my four wins from 2017 is also in counted in the 2016 table, so it seems it's the all-time total in all tables
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Post by maxwelldeux » October 11th, 2017, 5:07 pm

Blarg. Thanks y'all - I'm stupidly counting all-time wins in every table. I'll figure out how to fix that.

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Post by connordenney » October 15th, 2017, 11:58 pm

I'm tied for 3rd in terms of number of challenges competed in, but I'm also the top-ranked person who hasn't seen 100 total movies for the challenges

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Post by maxwelldeux » October 16th, 2017, 6:53 am

Updated the first post.

I've added the stats for 2015, updated the overall leaderboard to be 2015-2017 (inclusive), and fixed that wins count thing I screwed up.

Enjoy! And please let me know if you have updates/corrections/feedback.

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Post by sortile9io » October 16th, 2017, 10:55 am

Thank you, maxwelldeux! I really appreciate your work. Although some results are a a bit frustrating, like this:

22. - Buksemannen: 159, 5, 81, 9.00, 0
74. - sortile9io: 62.5, 5, 238, 3.20, 2

Both have participated in five challenges, I won two, with near three times more films, yet Buksemannen is near the top while I'm lost in the middle. I'll have to do something, can't stand being so low on a list.

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Post by Armoreska » October 16th, 2017, 12:50 pm

That's much better. 24th place is like first page!
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Post by maxwelldeux » October 16th, 2017, 4:55 pm

sortile9io on Oct 16 2017, 04:55:58 AM wrote:Thank you, maxwelldeux! I really appreciate your work. Although some results are a a bit frustrating, like this:

22. - Buksemannen: 159, 5, 81, 9.00, 0
74. - sortile9io: 62.5, 5, 238, 3.20, 2

Both have participated in five challenges, I won two, with near three times more films, yet Buksemannen is near the top while I'm lost in the middle. I'll have to do something, can't stand being so low on a list.
Well good news for you, sortile9io: You're moving up a spot.

For one of Buksemannen's scores, I accidentally tallied "110" when it should have been a "10". So that 159 will drop to a 59.

I've corrected it in my data file, and I'll update the tables when I add in the 2014 data.

Good catch! :thumbsup:

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Post by maxwelldeux » October 19th, 2017, 5:09 am

Updated the first post.

This update adds in the stats for 2014 in a separate table, and updates the overall leaderboard to include all official challenges 2014-present. It also corrects a few errors I've come across, including the one sortile9io pointed out last update. As such, all tables have been updated.

Also, for those of you who have changed usernames, please run through the Overall table - if you see both of your names listed, let me know somehow, and I'll merge the two. I've caught a couple of these already as I'm cleaning the data, but I'm betting I'm missing some.

Again, please send me updates/corrections/feedback and I'll make the appropriate fixes. Enjoy!



PS: Dear sweet, wonderful, competent, and stunningly attractive mods: Could we please get this topic Pinned in the Challenges subforum? :happy:

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Post by Armoreska » October 19th, 2017, 8:07 am

Wow Cinephage did win one, and makes #1!
I'm up to 18th as well, higher than expected
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Post by sortile9io » October 19th, 2017, 8:39 am

maxwelldeux on Oct 18 2017, 11:09:42 PM wrote:PS: Dear sweet, wonderful, competent, and stunningly attractive mods: Could we please get this topic Pinned in the Challenges subforum? :happy:
+1 (but only for the second half of the sentence and some parts of the first). :turned:

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Post by cinephage » October 19th, 2017, 9:27 am

Armoreska on Oct 19 2017, 02:07:31 AM wrote:Wow Cinephage did win one, and makes #1!
I'm up to 18th as well, higher than expected
That was my plan all along... I let others win and pass in front of me, and lost to more than 100 challenges of all kind, knowing that eventually I would have the last laugh.
And I don't intend to win either of the challenges I'm doing right now either... Justice will come to me in the end !!!

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