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Post by hurluberlu » September 30th, 2018, 7:51 pm

Should give him another 24h: he might have forgotten or planned to take care of it over night PST. He was looking forward to it as far as I can judge from the above post.
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Post by sebby » September 30th, 2018, 8:01 pm

hurluberlu wrote:
September 30th, 2018, 7:51 pm
Should give him another 24h: he might have forgotten or planned to take care of it over night PST. He was looking forward to it as far as I can judge from the above post.
Since the challenge begins imminently, we should probably hand off hosting duties at this point.

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Post by albajos » September 30th, 2018, 8:59 pm

But you can post when the thread starts, you don't have to post right away when you see it. It's not even october here.

Some these threads have started the 1st in the past.

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Post by sol » September 30th, 2018, 11:10 pm

Okay - just sent cinephage a private message since (as far as I can tell) nobody else here has. :shrug:

As per tradition, I started at dusk on the 30th myself and am currently two films into the Challenge. But I can wait for a little bit before posting an update. Besides, I'm still trying to work out whether or not I liked Hereditary. I'm not impressed that I needed to watch a 9 minute YouTube video to fully get what was going on, but then again the film interested me enough to seek out a full explanation, and bits and pieces are certainly clever. Though it's also a bit of a been-there-done-that sort of film (dreams within dreams is such a cliche). But I did have trouble sleeping afterwards, which is usually a sign of an effective horror film, and I've woken up early and cannot get back to sleep...

Regarding "handing off hosting duties", do we even have anybody who is willing to step in and take over the reigns?

At a pinch, I guess I could host, but I would not be able to put much effort into it. I'm back at work in a week so I'll have trouble keeping the thread updated (with a challenge as busy as Horror tends to be) and I would not be able to post daily updates or stats. Nor would I have the spare time to argue or police whether films are horror or not. But I would rather take on the onerous task of hosting the thread than have the Challenge not occur at all.

Let's see some volunteers. Once we have someone slotted in to potentially take over, then we can work out how long to give cinephage before the other person starts the thread.
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Post by maxwelldeux » September 30th, 2018, 11:37 pm

I'm happy to help - I'm not expecting the Iberian challenge to be super busy as it's competing with Horror, but I'm happy to jump in and start the thread and/or post standings.

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Post by funkybusiness » September 30th, 2018, 11:38 pm

I'll start the challenge, have no problem hosting. will try for daily posted updates and silent updating of the OP 2-3 times a day.

you probably won't get super advanced stats unless someone wants to help with that. I'm excel-challenged.

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Post by funkybusiness » September 30th, 2018, 11:39 pm

ohph, there's maxwell, simultaneously thinking the same ting.

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Post by 3eyes » September 30th, 2018, 11:56 pm

funkybusiness wrote:
September 30th, 2018, 11:38 pm
I'll start the challenge, have no problem hosting. will try for daily posted updates and silent updating of the OP 2-3 times a day.

you probably won't get super advanced stats unless someone wants to help with that. I'm excel-challenged.
I say go for it funky!

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Post by sebby » October 1st, 2018, 12:01 am

albajos wrote:
September 30th, 2018, 8:59 pm
But you can post when the thread starts, you don't have to post right away when you see it. It's not even october here.

Some these threads have started the 1st in the past.
Horror is different in that it starts on the 30th. It's also the busiest challenge of the year.


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Post by cinephage » October 1st, 2018, 11:31 am

I'm so sorry about this...

I had a technical issue that is now solved. Thanks for taking over, funky !!!
I'll try and help you hosting it if you like. I'll be Satan's little helper...
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Post by hurluberlu » October 1st, 2018, 12:05 pm

cinephage wrote:
October 1st, 2018, 11:31 am
I'm so sorry about this...

I had a technical issue that is now solved. Thanks for taking over, funky !!!
I'll try and help you hosting it if you like. I'll be Satan's little helper...
I think we had a consensus to give you a little more time until freddy funky decided not while we were sleeping.
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Post by cinephage » October 1st, 2018, 1:27 pm

hurluberlu wrote:
October 1st, 2018, 12:05 pm
cinephage wrote:
October 1st, 2018, 11:31 am
I'm so sorry about this...

I had a technical issue that is now solved. Thanks for taking over, funky !!!
I'll try and help you hosting it if you like. I'll be Satan's little helper...
I think we had a consensus to give you a little more time until freddy funky decided not while we were sleeping.
It's fine, really. I was sorry for the early viewers who had already so many horrific titles to write down on the site's ghastly log... Now they are in Funky's hands, and we all know how firm his grip is... Beware ! Beware !!! :lol:

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Post by 3eyes » October 1st, 2018, 1:34 pm

People write their watchlists in some "ghastly log" I never heard of? I keep mine in WP files, which collectively are a great resource.
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Post by allisoncm » October 11th, 2018, 3:56 pm

funkybusiness wrote:
September 30th, 2018, 11:38 pm
I'll start the challenge, have no problem hosting. will try for daily posted updates and silent updating of the OP 2-3 times a day.

you probably won't get super advanced stats unless someone wants to help with that. I'm excel-challenged.
Our host is MIA for the horror challenge: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3968&view=unread#unread

I sent a PM. Made a note in the horror challenge. I have seen 20 horror films and it's still showing me as 0. Is an active host willing to take over?

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Post by cinephage » October 11th, 2018, 4:18 pm

I can work on something while Funky's on business... He'll catch up afterwards. I'll work on that in a few hours.
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Post by allisoncm » October 11th, 2018, 4:34 pm

OK, thanks.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » October 19th, 2018, 2:47 pm

How about we make a truly challenging uh challenge? Like going through this list https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/rari ... /joachimt/

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Post by joachimt » October 19th, 2018, 5:29 pm

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
October 19th, 2018, 2:47 pm
How about we make a truly challenging uh challenge? Like going through this list https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/rari ... /joachimt/
Good idea. Add this one as well:
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/unes ... /joachimt/

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Post by 3eyes » October 19th, 2018, 9:38 pm

or how about a Lost Movies challenge?

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/nota ... marco_n65/
(I've seen one - it was a special feature with something else)
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Post by Hunziker » October 23rd, 2018, 4:52 am

I usually leave the future challenges decisions to the professionals, but has a TV Movie Challenge ever been considered? Love to see one of those.
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Post by maxwelldeux » October 23rd, 2018, 5:02 am

Hunziker wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 4:52 am
I usually leave the future challenges decisions to the professionals, but has a TV Movie Challenge ever been considered? Love to see one of those.
Yes - this year, in fact, but the idea didn't get a lot of support. :shrug:

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Post by sol » October 23rd, 2018, 9:08 am

A couple of people have already said that they might start an Unofficial Challenge for TV next year, but yeah, enthusiasm regarding an Official TV Challenge was pretty low. Something that I just remembered - I wanted to propose Christmas for a Theme Challenge, but it somehow slipped my mind. I'll try to remember to nominate it on next year's discussion thread.

In other news, while this thread is bumped, I want to put up my hand to host the Criterion/MoC Challenge in November. I'm thinking that it will be a good Challenge to ease my way back into hosting (only three lists, so less debating/whining about eligibility). Of course, now that I've said that, it will probably end up being the most active challenge next month. :sweat:

Which means that if albajos is still up for hosting Nordic, we'll only need to find a Noirvember host, which shouldn't probably be an issue with 8 days left to go.
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Post by albajos » October 23rd, 2018, 9:16 am

The enthusiasm would be highr if we had made a decision acording to wheter we should allow TV in the other challenges. As the board memebers already have started voting for challenges without knowing that I guess we'll have to allow episodes next year also.

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Post by funkybusiness » October 23rd, 2018, 9:44 am

a potential issue regarding the Criterion challenge: will bonus films be included? like Bucking Broadway on Stagecoach, or The Making of Fanny and Alexander on Fanny and Alexander, or The Passion According to Andrei on Andrei Rublev, or the "extra" films on the Shoah set. The first is an early film of John Ford's, the second is a making of documentary, but Bergman's documentaries are considered not insignificant in his oeuvre, the third is an alternate cut and the extra films in the Shoah set are segmented extensions of the film itself. I don't think any of these are included in the Official List as Official Checks but they sort of buoy in that zone between the mainline title and just "special features" like an interview with the sound designer or whatever. these are just some examples, there are a ton of bonus films in the Collection.

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Post by sol » October 23rd, 2018, 12:12 pm

funkybusiness wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 9:44 am
a potential issue regarding the Criterion challenge: will bonus films be included?
I don't mind including the bonus films like those that you have mentioned, but I would hate for someone to win the Challenge simply by watching every interview clip on every Criterion disc. I'll take suggestions (from yourself and others) on how to tackle this over the next week and try to come with a ruling before I open the thread (probably at around this time next week). So guys - you have a week to let me know how you feel about this.
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Post by sol » October 23rd, 2018, 2:30 pm

Okay, it suddenly occurred to me to check what the precedent was regarding bonus features last time that the Challenge was run (January last year):

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2764
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2770

The precedent would therefore seem to be:

a) only include films in the three Official lists in the Official Challenge
b) have a concurrent Unofficial Challenge to watch as a many bonus features as possible

I suppose I could include the bonus features challenge as a "bonus challenge" within the same thread, but it might be easier to have the Bonus Challenge separately like last time if there are any volunteers to run the Unofficial Bonus Challenge??
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Post by albajos » October 23rd, 2018, 2:40 pm

The focus next month will be on noir, just like it's horror this month, so I'll just say "Don't bother"

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Post by 3eyes » October 23rd, 2018, 3:09 pm

albajos wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 2:40 pm
The focus next month will be on noir, just like it's horror this month, so I'll just say "Don't bother"
Will that include neo-noir and Nordic noir?

My understanding is that it's currently the host's call as to what to do about TV series/episodes.
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Post by albajos » October 23rd, 2018, 3:57 pm

Yes, but 3 hours for one point which Horror does now is probably the way to go.

Expect for LGBT where the whole spectrum have had very little representation (outside of the 4 first letters), so I'll keep that on 1 hour/point for a while.
And there are probably other themes where the possible views just are restricted.

For Nordic challenge next month us scandinavians do have an adventage as we can easily access each others TV shows, but they are harder to see abroad, so I'll probably go for 3 hours/point for that reason.

As for the noir question, nordic noir and other newer noirs are already part of the TSPDT Noir list. So it would be odd to leave them out.

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Post by maxwelldeux » October 23rd, 2018, 4:45 pm

I did Noirvember last year and am happy to do it again this year.

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Post by frbrown » October 24th, 2018, 3:53 pm

maxwelldeux wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 4:45 pm
I did Noirvember last year and am happy to do it again this year.
What were your plans for TV, Max? I was hoping to watch some noir series for the challenge.

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Post by maxwelldeux » October 24th, 2018, 10:20 pm

frbrown wrote:
October 24th, 2018, 3:53 pm
maxwelldeux wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 4:45 pm
I did Noirvember last year and am happy to do it again this year.
What were your plans for TV, Max? I was hoping to watch some noir series for the challenge.
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Post by frbrown » October 25th, 2018, 12:32 am

maxwelldeux wrote:
October 24th, 2018, 10:20 pm
frbrown wrote:
October 24th, 2018, 3:53 pm
maxwelldeux wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 4:45 pm
I did Noirvember last year and am happy to do it again this year.
What were your plans for TV, Max? I was hoping to watch some noir series for the challenge.
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Post by Hunziker » October 25th, 2018, 12:48 am

maxwelldeux wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 5:02 am
Hunziker wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 4:52 am
I usually leave the future challenges decisions to the professionals, but has a TV Movie Challenge ever been considered? Love to see one of those.
Yes - this year, in fact, but the idea didn't get a lot of support. :shrug:
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October 23rd, 2018, 9:08 am
A couple of people have already said that they might start an Unofficial Challenge for TV next year, but yeah, enthusiasm regarding an Official TV Challenge was pretty low. Something that I just remembered - I wanted to propose Christmas for a Theme Challenge, but it somehow slipped my mind. I'll try to remember to nominate it on next year's discussion thread.
This spiraled into a TV Challenge conversation, but the original question was about TV Movies, as in Made-for-TV Movies. Would the opinions be the same? They're pretty different ideas.
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Post by maxwelldeux » October 25th, 2018, 1:24 am

Hunziker wrote:
October 25th, 2018, 12:48 am
maxwelldeux wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 5:02 am
Hunziker wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 4:52 am
I usually leave the future challenges decisions to the professionals, but has a TV Movie Challenge ever been considered? Love to see one of those.
Yes - this year, in fact, but the idea didn't get a lot of support. :shrug:
sol wrote:
October 23rd, 2018, 9:08 am
A couple of people have already said that they might start an Unofficial Challenge for TV next year, but yeah, enthusiasm regarding an Official TV Challenge was pretty low. Something that I just remembered - I wanted to propose Christmas for a Theme Challenge, but it somehow slipped my mind. I'll try to remember to nominate it on next year's discussion thread.
This spiraled into a TV Challenge conversation, but the original question was about TV Movies, as in Made-for-TV Movies. Would the opinions be the same? They're pretty different ideas.
Oh - I see what you're saying. Totally different opinions, I would think.

Personally, I wouldn't be excited for it, largely because a) made-for-tv movies could count for any challenge anyway, and b) it's really hard to tell what's made for TV. But others may feel differently.

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Post by tourdesb » October 25th, 2018, 9:43 am

Unless someone has already planned to host the documentary challenge in December, I can do it.

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Post by 3eyes » October 25th, 2018, 3:25 pm

maxwelldeux wrote:
October 25th, 2018, 1:24 am
Hunziker wrote:
October 25th, 2018, 12:48 am
This spiraled into a TV Challenge conversation, but the original question was about TV Movies, as in Made-for-TV Movies.
Personally, I wouldn't be excited for it, largely because a) made-for-tv movies could count for any challenge anyway, and b) it's really hard to tell what's made for TV. But others may feel differently.
I agree. I wouldn't know how to begin searching for MTV movies.
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Post by maxwelldeux » October 25th, 2018, 5:16 pm

tourdesb wrote:
October 25th, 2018, 9:43 am
Unless someone has already planned to host the documentary challenge in December, I can do it.
Oh sure - you just want a little more control to avenge your narrow loss last year... tehe

But yeah - go for it!

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Post by Fergenaprido » October 27th, 2018, 8:38 am

It's actually pretty easy to determine made-for-tv movies on imdb. They categorize them separately. Additional resources would include awards like Emmys that have separate categories for those films.
Go to Advanced search on imdb and select "TV Movie" and then any other parameters you'd like, and you should come up with something like this: https://www.imdb.com/search/title?title ... &count=250
Over 125,000 movies to choose from.

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