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World Cup, Season 3, Match 2G: Japan vs Switzerland vs Austria (Dec 2nd)

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This is match 2G of the third season of iCM Forum's Film World Cup.

CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
JapanButa to gunkanPigs and Battleships1961montylinklink
SwitzerlandRaptThe Kidnapping1934Nathan Treadwaylinklink
AustriaDer KnochenmannThe Bone Man2009metallerlinklink

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Rapt
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Voting Rules:
- You must watch all 3 films before you vote.
- To vote, rank the 3 films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)

Voting deadline = Dec 2nd
Countdown till deadline

The country that ends at 1st place proceeds to the next round. The ranking of the match will be decided using these rules:
- Ranked by lowest average ranking.
- In case of a tie between two movies, head-to-head determines the winner (how many people thought A>B and how many thought B>A).
- In case there's still a tie after the previous rule or there is a tie between all three movies, most #1-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? Fewest #3-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? The match will have a 3 day extension (except when the tie is only between #2 and #3).
Here's a quick summary of how the tournament works
We start with 48 films from 48 countries. Each country has a manager who determines which movie will be watched. In the first round the countries are divided into 12 groups of 4. From each group the countries that end up at #1 and #2 proceed to the next round. In the 2nd round the 24 remaining countries will be divided into 8 groups of 3. The managers pick a new movie. The winner of each group proceeds to the next round. The final 8 countries compete one-on-one in the quarter finals (with a new movie of course) and so on till the final.
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1. Buta to gunkan
2. Rapt
3. Der Knochenmann
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1. Der Knochenmann
2. Rapt
3. Buta to gunkan
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1. Rapt
2. Buta to Gunkan
3. Der Kochenmann
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01. Buta to gunkan

02. Rapt

03. Der Knochenmann
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Rapt is an obvious last place film for me. Hated the plot, was bored throughout, and it felt like the cast and crew did not transition well from the silent years preceding the film to the early talkie stage of the filming era.

1. Der Knochenmann 8/10
2. Buta to gunkan 6/10
3. Rapt 5/10
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This looks like it will be an interesting round...
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1. Buta to gunkan 8/10
2. Rapt 8/10
3. Der Knochenmann 6/10
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1. Der Knochenmann - 7.8
2. Rapt - 7,5
3. Buta to gunkan - 7,5

Very close round
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My film is doing well so far, which makes me quite happy.
I was a bit afraid of nominating it, because it is actually the third film in a series about the lead character. But I thought this one is the best suited for an international audience. Tthe first one is my personal fave, but it relies much on its witty dialogue, which would be brutal to translate into subtitles.
And each of the films in the series are self contained plots, so that shouldn't be much of a problem.
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I wanted to check out that series for ages, because of the good reviews, but it is not really my genre, so thanks for the push. I trust your judgement that this is a good place to start and the story was very self contained indeed. Also I love Josef Hader, he is perfect for this and perfect in this. His directorial debut is a similar film and it almost made the current ICM-FilmFestival selection https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/wilde+maus/
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Love Hader since I saw one of his pitch black standup comedy programs on tv ages ago. Became an instant fave.
I'm still kicking myself in the balls, because Hader was at a showing of Wilde Maus at a local art house cinema. And of course I had other things to attend that day and I couldn't wiggle myself out of that. :(
I still haven't seen the film.
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really easy

1.Rapt

mediocre tier
2.Der Knochenmann
2.Buta to gunkan
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1. Der Knochenmann
2. Rapt
3. Buta to gunkan
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1. Rapt 9/10
2. Der Knochenmann 7/10
3. Buta to gunkan 6/10
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1. Rapt
2. Der Knochenmann
3. Buta to gunkan

Very good choices for Switzerland and Austria. I prefer late Imamura, though.
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Japan is not doing well so far.

Image Rapt: 1.727 (14-8)
Image Der Knochenmann: 2 (11-11)
Image Buta to gunkan: 2.273 (8-14)
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1. Der Knochenmann
2. Buta to gunkan
3. Rapt

Der Knochenmann is a big surprise indeed.
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1. Buta to gunkan 7.5
2. Rapt 7.5
3. Der Knochenmann 7.0
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1. RAPT (one of my faves :wub: )

2. Buta to gunkan
3. Der Knochenmann
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Buta To Gunkan 7-
Bone Man 6+ that's a lot of meat.
Rapt 6

Japan gaining since last update, and Monty has not voted yet
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1. Der Knochenmann (2009) 7/10
I'll have to check out the other films starring this character, as I really enjoyed this one, thanks for the discovery. :thumbsup:

2. Rapt (1934) 6/10
3. Buta to gunkan (1961) 5/10
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1. Buta to gunkan (Japan) 7/10
2. Rapt (Switzerland) 7/10
3. Der Knochenmann (Austria) 5.5/10
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Image Rapt: 1.882 (19-15)
Image Der Knochenmann: 2.059 (16-18)
Image Buta to gunkan: 2.059 (16-18)

Image Buta to gunkan - Image Der Knochenmann: 8 - 9
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1. Pigs and Battleships - 7
2. The Bone Man - 7
3. Rapt - 6
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1. Rapt - 7/10
2. Der Knochenmann - 7/10
3. Buta to gunkan - 4/10
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Where's everyone at?
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A really enjoyable round, 3 great picks.

1. Rapt
2. Buta to gunkan
3. Der Knochenmann
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1. Buta to gunkan
2. Rapt
3. Der Knochenmann
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Nathan Treadway wrote: November 30th, 2018, 2:03 am Where's everyone at?
It's in your interest to hope there's no one else :lol:
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1. Der Knochenmann
2. Rapt
3. Buta to gunkan

I enjoyed all three films. Thanks managers.
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1. Buta to gunkan
2. Rapt
3. Der Knochenmann
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2.5 days left. Very even group, anything can still happen.

Image Rapt: 26-20
Image Buta to gunkan: 23-23
Image Der Knochenmann: 20-26
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1. Der Knochenmann
2. Buta to gunkan
3. Rapt
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I'm surprised how close the results are. I enjoyed all three films but Rapt is a favourite of mine and well deserving of the top spot. Great picks by all 3 managers.

1. Rapt
2. Der Knochenmann
3. Buta to gunkan
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Good selections, fellow managers.

1. Der Knochenmann - 8/10
2. Rapt - 7.5/10
3. Buta to gunkan - 7/10
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Less than 1 day left.

Image Rapt: 1.885 (29-23)
Image Der Knochenmann: 2.038 (25-27)
Image Buta to gunkan: 2.077 (24-28)
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Buta to gunkan 8-
Rapt 7+
Der Knochenmann: 2.038 (25-27) 6+
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1. Buta to gunkan - 7.6
2. Der Knochenmann - 7.0
3. Rapt - 5.2

Started off with The Kidnapping. I must be really missing something here because I was sorely unimpressed. I don't understand what's so great about it.

Next up was Pigs and Battleships. This was uneven, but overall I liked it, but at times it felt like it was wandering, and some of the peripheral characters seemed unnecessary.

Lastly, I just finished The Bone Man. It was way too gruesome for me, and at three or four points in the film I had to pause because I seriously thought I was going to throw up. Even though I didn't really enjoy it, it was still a better and more interesting story Rapt.
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Image Rapt: 1.929 (30-26)
Image Buta to gunkan: 2 (28-28)
Image Der Knochenmann: 2.071 (26-30)

Getting close.
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