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World Cup, Season 3, Match 2F: Poland vs Czechia vs India (Nov 18th)

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This is match 2F of the third season of iCM Forum's Film World Cup.

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PolandMiejsce urodzeniaBirthplace1992sebbylinklink
CzechiaRukaThe Hand1965Carmel98linklink
IndiaThithi2015tommy_leazaqlinklink

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Ruka
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Voting Rules:
- You must watch all 3 films before you vote.
- To vote, rank the 3 films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)

Voting deadline = Nov 18th
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The country that ends at 1st place proceeds to the next round. The ranking of the match will be decided using these rules:
- Ranked by lowest average ranking.
- In case of a tie between two movies, head-to-head determines the winner (how many people thought A>B and how many thought B>A).
- In case there's still a tie after the previous rule or there is a tie between all three movies, most #1-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? Fewest #3-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? The match will have a 3 day extension (except when the tie is only between #2 and #3).
Here's a quick summary of how the tournament works
We start with 48 films from 48 countries. Each country has a manager who determines which movie will be watched. In the first round the countries are divided into 12 groups of 4. From each group the countries that end up at #1 and #2 proceed to the next round. In the 2nd round the 24 remaining countries will be divided into 8 groups of 3. The managers pick a new movie. The winner of each group proceeds to the next round. The final 8 countries compete one-on-one in the quarter finals (with a new movie of course) and so on till the final.
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1. Miejsce Urodzenia
2. Ruka
3. Thithi
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1. Miejsce urodzenia
2. Ruka
3. Thithi
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01 - Thithi

02 - Miejsce urodzenia

03 - Ruka
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1. Miejsce urodzenia
2. Ruka
3. Thithi
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Has there ever been a documentary winning a match in the WC? I don't keep track of such stats. Maybe Mario know?
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joachimt wrote: October 29th, 2018, 4:13 pm Has there ever been a documentary winning a match in the WC? I don't keep track of such stats. Maybe Mario know?
That's a NO but this weird round even I may vote it.
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Armoreska wrote: October 29th, 2018, 4:22 pm
joachimt wrote: October 29th, 2018, 4:13 pm Has there ever been a documentary winning a match in the WC? I don't keep track of such stats. Maybe Mario know?
That's a NO but this weird round even I may vote it.
Indeed, I browsed by the genre and it turns out that docus have usually been losing, except on two occasions:

1) South Korea's Repatriation ended up 2nd out of 3 back in the Season 1. The film ranked below was Georgia's Lived Once a Song-Thrush;
2) Araya finished 2nd ahead of Cabascabo in the Season 2.
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I wonder if tommy will vote for his own pick. He rated it only 56 on Criticker.
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1. Miejsce urodzenia
2. Thithi
3. Ruka
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Nothing amazing.

1. Miejsce urodzenia 7/10
2. Thithi 6+/10
3. Ruka 6/10
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I had the feeling that Thithi was going to get last place for me within ten minutes of watching it. Having to endure two hours of that film was not fun.

1. Ruka 8/10
2. Miejsce urodzenia 6/10
3. Thithi 4/10
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Cocoa wrote: October 31st, 2018, 12:50 am I had the feeling that Thithi was going to get last place for me within ten minutes of watching it. Having to endure two hours of that film was not fun.
Honestly, I felt the same way. It's probably my least favorite film of the WC so far (sorry, Tommy.)
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joachimt wrote: October 29th, 2018, 5:46 pm I wonder if tommy will vote for his own pick. He rated it only 56 on Criticker.
Anything over 55 in criticker is a positive rating for me. :) Birthplace also holds the same score and I prefer Thiti over it. So will have to wait for Ruka to decide whether Thithi makes the top spot for me or not.
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Nathan Treadway wrote: October 31st, 2018, 1:21 am
Cocoa wrote: October 31st, 2018, 12:50 am I had the feeling that Thithi was going to get last place for me within ten minutes of watching it. Having to endure two hours of that film was not fun.
Honestly, I felt the same way. It's probably my least favorite film of the WC so far (sorry, Tommy.)
No worries :) I just wanted to nominate the 2010s Indian films, instead of the usual suspects. So no problem if some gets bad rep.

Also this film is not from the major three film states of India: West Bengal, Maharashtra (responsible for Bollywood and Marathi film industry), Kerala (Malayalam film industry). Its from the lesser known Kannada film industry from the state of Karanataka. Their style and execution is slightly different from the others.
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Do you pronounce Thithi like Zizzy or like Sissy?
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1. Miejsce urodzenia - 7/10
2. Thithi - 6.5/10
3. Ruka - 6.5/10
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1 - Thithi - 7,5
2 - Miejsce urodzenia - 7,3
3 - Ruka - 7
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Image Miejsce urodzenia: 1.333 (15-3)
Image Thithi: 2.222 (7-11)
Image Ruka: 2.444 (5-13)
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1. Miejsce urodzenia
2. Ruka
3. Thithi
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1. Thithi 7.0
2. Ruka 7.0
3. Miejsce urodzenia 6.5
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Ruka 7+
Miejsce
Thithi 3+
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1. Miejsce urodzenia - 7.3
2. Thithi - 7.3
3. Ruka - 7.0

Decent round, but I do find it really hard to compare feature films and shorts.
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Gorro wrote: November 5th, 2018, 10:32 am but I do find it really hard to compare feature films and shorts.
for me it is easy, shorts always lose from features as a rule. Ruka is the most fun "movie" in this round, but it will never be a movie. (only a very select few like chien andalou or meshes of the afternoon can score big because of pure brilliance, those are 10's but most are lucky to get even a 7).
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1. Ruka - 9
2. Thithi - 6
3. Miejsce urodzenia - 5

So this man goes back to Europe, meets the Polish villagers that risked their lives only to save him from the Nazis and he does not even bother to say thanks...

:facepalm:
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He was asked by the filmmakers to go back (for their film Academy graduation piece if i understood it correctly, an assignment that had to be about this topic). There is a lot the documentary doesn't show. This can be explained as a weakness, but i also found the minimalistic approach with fast pace refreshingly to the point...
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sortile9io wrote: November 5th, 2018, 7:09 pm 1. Ruka - 9
2. Thithi - 6
3. Miejsce urodzenia - 5

So this man goes back to Europe, meets the Polish villagers that risked their lives only to save him from the Nazis and he does not even bother to say thanks...

:facepalm:
I got the impression that most of the villagers were lying through their teeth and trying to rephrase their "memories" to avoid looking antisemitic.

...Or maybe that key encounter with Polish villagers from Shoah altered my perception of these type of encounters.
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zuma wrote: November 5th, 2018, 7:39 pm
sortile9io wrote: November 5th, 2018, 7:09 pm 1. Ruka - 9
2. Thithi - 6
3. Miejsce urodzenia - 5

So this man goes back to Europe, meets the Polish villagers that risked their lives only to save him from the Nazis and he does not even bother to say thanks...

:facepalm:
I got the impression that most of the villagers were lying through their teeth and trying to rephrase their "memories" to avoid looking antisemitic.

...Or maybe that key encounter with Polish villagers from Shoah altered my perception of these type of encounters.
Yes, that's the impression I got as well. (I haven't seen Shoah yet)
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zuma wrote: November 5th, 2018, 7:39 pm
sortile9io wrote: November 5th, 2018, 7:09 pm 1. Ruka - 9
2. Thithi - 6
3. Miejsce urodzenia - 5

So this man goes back to Europe, meets the Polish villagers that risked their lives only to save him from the Nazis and he does not even bother to say thanks...

:facepalm:
I got the impression that most of the villagers were lying through their teeth and trying to rephrase their "memories" to avoid looking antisemitic.
My impression as well. Poland's treatment of its Jews during ww2 -- on levels large and small -- really is fascinating and covers every bit of the spectrum; heroism, barbarism, and the grey shades between.
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1 birthplace
2 ruka
3 thithi
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1. Miejsce Urodzenia (1992) - 8/10
2. Ruka (1965) - 8/10
3. Thithi (2015) - 7.5/10

A short round (no pun intended!) - previously seen 2 out of the 3.
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1. Miejsce urodzenia
2. Ruka
3. Thithi
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Image Miejsce urodzenia: 1.471 (26-8)
Image Ruka: 2.176 (14-20)
Image Thithi: 2.353 (11-23)
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It's crazy to me that some see Thithi as one of the worst films of this World Cup! I thought it was a brilliant village satire, and I was impressed by how rich the portrayal of the village was. I felt so immersed into this world portrayed, and the clash of widely different characters makes this one of the most fun films of the year for me. It narrowly beats Miejsce urodzenia, which was really thought-provoking for its short runtime.

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3. Ruka
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1. Ruka (Czechia) 7.5/10
2. Thithi (India) 7.5/10
3. Miejsce urodzenia (Poland) 7.5/10
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Lilarcor wrote: November 11th, 2018, 1:47 pm It's crazy to me that some see Thithi as one of the worst films of this World Cup! I thought it was a brilliant village satire, and I was impressed by how rich the portrayal of the village was. I felt so immersed into this world portrayed, and the clash of widely different characters makes this one of the most fun films of the year for me. It narrowly beats Miejsce urodzenia, which was really thought-provoking for its short runtime.

1. Thithi
2. Miejsce urodzenia
3. Ruka
I'm with you on Thithi. I really liked it. The humour and the way it portrays a small town and its values is amazing. I haven't seen Ruka, but I doubt it will beat Thithi as the best film of this round for me.
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1. Thithi
2. Miejsce urodzenia
3. Ruka
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1. Miejsce urodzenia (1992) 6/10
2. Ruka (1965) 6/10
3. Thithi (2015) 5/10
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1. Thithi
2. Ruka
3. Birthplace
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1. Ruka 8/10
2. Miejsce urodzenia 7.5/10
3. Thithi 7.5/10

A very good round, one of the best of S3.
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