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World Cup, Season 3, Match 1L: Germany vs Canada vs Austria vs Dominican Republic (Aug 8th)

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This is match 1L of the third season of iCM Forum's Film World Cup.

CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
GermanyIch war neunzehnI Was Nineteen1968Lilarcorlinklink
CanadaLes bons debarrasGood Riddance1980Armoreskalinklink
AustriaDas finstere TalThe Dark Valley2014metallerlinklink
Dominican RepublicJean Gentil2010Angel Glezlinklink

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Ich war neunzehn
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Les bons debarras
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Das finstere Tal
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Jean Gentil
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Voting Rules:
- You must watch all 4 films before you vote.
- To vote, rank the 4 films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)

Voting deadline = Aug 8th
Countdown till deadline

The countries that end at 1st and 2nd place proceed to the next round. The ranking of the match will be decided using these rules:
- Ranked by lowest average ranking.
- In case of a tie between two movies, head-to-head determines the winner (how many people thought A>B and how many thought B>A).
- In case there's still a tie after the previous rule or there is a tie between three or four movies, most #1-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? Fewest #4-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? The match will have a 3 day extension (except when the tie is only between #3 and #4).
Here's a quick summary of how the tournament works
We start with 48 films from 48 countries. Each country has a manager who determines which movie will be watched. In the first round the countries are divided into 12 groups of 4. From each group the countries that end up at #1 and #2 proceed to the next round. In the 2nd round the 24 remaining countries will be divided into 8 groups of 3. The managers pick a new movie. The winner of each group proceeds to the next round. The final 8 countries compete one-on-one in the quarter finals (with a new movie of course) and so on till the final.
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#2

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I'll be on vacation for the last 10 days of this match. I won't be here for the final result. Mario, can you keep track of the scores (as you always do) and declare the winners after the deadline?

Btw, this is the last match of round 1. I'll start a round 2 preparation thread this weekend.
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#3

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Saved the best for last; with an average over 8, this is the best group with quite a margin (imo).

1. Das finstere Tal 9/10
2. Ich war neunzehn 8.5/10
3. Les bons débarras 7.5/10
4. Jean Gentil 7.25/10
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joachimt wrote: July 11th, 2018, 8:14 pm I'll be on vacation for the last 10 days of this match. I won't be here for the final result. Mario, can you keep track of the scores (as you always do) and declare the winners after the deadline?

Btw, this is the last match of round 1. I'll start a round 2 preparation thread this weekend.
Yes I will. Btw my rankings are these:

1. Jean Gentil
2. Das finstere Tal
3. Ich war neunzehn
4. Les bons débarras
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My favorite film so far in Season 3... and then some films I only found to be okay.

1. Ich war neunzehn 9/10
2. Les bons debarras 5/10
3. Jean Gentil 5/10
4. Das finstere Tal 4/10
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No one sees any problems with this group match-up?

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1. Das finstere Tal
2. Ich war neunzehn
3. Les bons débarras
4. Jean Gentil
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New screenshot for Canada! All 4 look HD now.
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Expectation:
Looks like I should be prepared to lose this one.
I rated the 2 movies I've seen already the same, but will obviously vote for my submission.
Expecting Germany to be my #1 pick. Will Dominicana be a surprise and make this my fav round? Let's see and find out.
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Hats off to Canada and Dominican Republic, two excellent films and although I am happy about my selection for Germany I have to vote my own pick #3 here!

Unfortunately the Austrian pick was a dislike for me. :/

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2. Les bons débarras
3. Ich war neunzehn
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blocho wrote: July 13th, 2018, 2:37 pm No one sees any problems with this group match-up?

Technically speaking, this time it's East Germany competing and not the scandalous Western counterpart. :folded:
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Oh yeah the legendary dopers instead
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1. Jean Gentil - 8,5
2. Ich war neunzehn - 8,5
3. Les bons débarras - 7,8
4. Das finstere Tal - 6,5

Jean Gentil is the biggest discovery of the world Cup for me so far! Very different than I had expected, almost something Tsai Ming-Liang could have done (but completely different of course).

Also the second match in a row where my scores are 8.5, 8.5 and 7.8! This first round is finishing on a very strong note!!
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I had a few favourites from this season so far, but all except one were stuff I've already seen. This round alone gave me 2 new favourites. Great round.

1. Ich war neunzehn (1968)
2. Jean Gentil (2010)
3. Les bons débarras [Good Riddance] (1980)
4. Das finstere Tal [The Dark Valley] (2014)
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1. Das finstere Tal 8/10
2. Ich war neunzehn 8/10
3. Jean Gentil 7/10
4. Les bons debarras 7/10
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1. Jean Gentil (Dominican Republic) 9/10
2. Ich war neunzehn (Germany) 9/10
3. Les bons debarras (Canada) 8/10
4. Das finstere Tal (Austria) 6/10
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1. Ich war neunzehn 7.5/10
2. Les bons debarras 7/10
3. Jean Gentil 6.5/10
4. Das finstere Tal 6/10
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After 10 votes:
Image Ich war neunzehn: 1.9 (21-9)
Image Jean Gentil: 2.3 (17-13)
Image Les bons debarras: 2.9 (11-19)
Image Das finstere Tal : 2.9 (11-19)

Image Les bons debarras - Image Das finstere Tal : 6 - 4
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1. Les bons débarras
2. Ich war neunzehn
3. Jean Gentil
4. Das finstere Tal
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First #1 for my Canada.
Surely this is the beginning of a beautiful recovery
he or A. or Armo or any

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currently working towards a vegan/free world + thru such film lists: GODARD, r/antinatalism recommends,..
the rest
ANARCHISTS, ANIMAL RIGHTS, Assisted suicide, Existential films, SOCIALIST CINEMA (an amalgamation of lists), Feminist lists, various GSSRM lists (aka LGBTQ+), 2010s bests, Visual Effects nominees, kid-related stuff, great animes (mini-serie or feature), very 80s movies, mah huge sci-fi list, ENVIRO, remarkable Silent Films and Pre-Code (exploring 1925 atm) and every shorts and docu list I'm aware of and
/forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo
imaginary awards | youtube channels | complaint lounge | explain how big a fan of slavery you are here, ..viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1535 and here: ..viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4484
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Debutant countries do pretty well in this cup so far.
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Austria is doing very poorly. Out of 11 voters it had 3 #1-votes, but 7 #4-votes.
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Switzerland's team brought Turkish players.
Germany's team brought Russian players, I see.
he or A. or Armo or any

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ANARCHISTS, ANIMAL RIGHTS, Assisted suicide, Existential films, SOCIALIST CINEMA (an amalgamation of lists), Feminist lists, various GSSRM lists (aka LGBTQ+), 2010s bests, Visual Effects nominees, kid-related stuff, great animes (mini-serie or feature), very 80s movies, mah huge sci-fi list, ENVIRO, remarkable Silent Films and Pre-Code (exploring 1925 atm) and every shorts and docu list I'm aware of and
/forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo
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I honestly didn't expect my choice to be so divisive. Of course it's a genre film, and they tend to polarize a bit more, but I didn't expect by such a margin.
But there are a lot of votes still missing, so I'm really interested in how this will go on.
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Germany has never made it out of R1, btw.
That may explain the need to naturalize some russians tehe
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/forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo
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Armoreska wrote: July 22nd, 2018, 11:31 am First #1 for my Canada.
Surely this is the beginning of a beautiful recovery
You should know that it was me who nominated it in last year's DTC B) ,yet without success :verymad: .
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01. Jean Gentil

02. Les bons débarras

03. Ich war neunzehn

04. Das finstere Tal
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1. Das finstere Tal - 8/10
2. Ich war neunzehn - 7/10
3. Jean Gentil - 6/10
4. Les bons débarras - 5/10
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1. Ich war neunzehn
2. Das finstere Tal
3. Les bons débarras
4. Jean Gentil
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Image Ich war neunzehn: 1.929 (29-13)
Image Jean Gentil: 2.429 (22-20)
Image Les bons debarras: 2.786 (17-25)
Image Das finstere Tal : 2.857 (16-26)
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1. Das finstere Tal 8.5/10
2. Ich war neunzehn 7/10
3. Les bons débarras 7/10
4. Jean Gentil 6/10

Yay - didn't miss a film this season (so far!)
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A pity that the wonderful 'Jean Gentil' has to suffer the weight of two giants; thanks managers,

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1. Ich war neunzehn 8.5
2. Jean Gentil 7.0
3. Les bons debarras 7.0
4. Das finstere Tal 7.0
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1. Das finstere Tal
2. Ich war neunzehn
3. Jean Gentil
4. Les bons débarras
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1. Das finstere Tal
2. Les bons débarras
3. Ich war neunzehn
4. Jean Gentil
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1. Das finstere Tal 7/10
2. Jean Gentil 6/10
3. Ich war neunzehn 6/10
4. Les bons debarras 4/10
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1. I was Nineteen - 7
2. The Dark Valley - 7
3. Good Riddance - 6.5
4. Jean Gentil - 6
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1. Ich war neunzehn
2. Jean Gentil
3. Das finstere Tal
4. Les bons débarras
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1. Les bons débarras (Good Riddance) - 1980 - Francis Mankiewicz
2. Das finstere Tal (The Dark Valley) - 2014 - Andreas Prochaska
3. Jean Gentil - 2010 - Israel Cárdenas, Laura Amelia Guzmán
4. Ich war neunzehn (I Was Nineteen) - 1968 - Konrad Wolf
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1. Ich war neunzehn (1968) 8
2. Jean Gentil (2010) 7
3. Das finstere Tal [The Dark Valley] (2014) 6+
4. Les bons débarras [Good Riddance] (1980) 6

my WC 1st round top 10

Rating / Country / Original Title / English Title / Year
8+ / Brazil / Lavoura Arcaica / To the Left of the Father / 2001
8 / China / Mang jing / Blind Shaft / 2003
8 / Georgia / Pirosmani / / 1969
8 / Germany / Ich war neunzehn / I Was Nineteen / 1968
8- / Burkina Faso / Buud Yam / / 1997
8- / Turkey / Bulanti / Nausea / 2015
7+ / Hungary / Megáll az idö / Time Stands Still / 1982
7+ / Mali / Yeelen / Brightness / 1987
7+ / The Netherlands / Ne me quitte pas / / 2013
7+ / Vietnam / Mùa len trâu / The Buffalo Boy / 2004
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Image Ich war neunzehn: 49-23
Image Das finstere Tal: 34-38
Image Jean Gentil: 33-39
Image Les bons debarras: 28-44

If I counted well.

Less than two days left till the end of Round 1.
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