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1. Käpy selän alla
2. Arrebato
3. Mang jing
4. Hei yan quan
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Nopros on Jan 29 2018, 03:11:04 PM wrote:1. Käpy selän alla
2. Arrebato
3. Mang jing
4. Hei yan quan
First #1-vote for Finland!
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And deservingly so! Read trough the thread after posting my votes and was surprised and a bit sad that no one else had it first. Would love a comeback.
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Better round than the first one for me. Way better in fact. Nearly every film this round was better than every film in the first round for me.
I had seen Arrebato before (I think about 2 years ago) and I liked it a lot, so I knew the other films had to be very good to beat it. But none was so it stood as my number 1.

So, here are my rankings and my thoughts:

1. Arrebato / Rapture (1979, Iván Zulueta) 8/10
Quriky, creepy, odd film about drugs and search for kicks in life and "film" as a means to that end.
Has a good meta touch to it and a strong weirdness but also sadness that I adored. Made me think of Cronenberg and Lynch somehow.

2. Hei yan quan / I Don't Want to Sleep Alone (2006, Ming-liang Tsai) 7.5/10
Not my favorite Tsai, but the more I see from him, the more I like and get him. Usual to one of his common themes, this films sees outsiders with quirks connecting in weird ways in a big, unpersonal and alienating city. Pitting the warmth of the human interaction on a profound level that doesn't need words against the coldness of the modern metropolis. As usual, his observations come with the eye for great shots, and a deadpan, sarcastic dry humour.

3. Mang jing / Blind Shaft (2003, Yang Li) 7/10
Solid and tragic story about two mudering conmen of whom one develops a guilty conscience about their next potential young and naive victim. The film also shows how their harsh enviroment is beneficial to the development and exploits of such individuals. Also shot with sure hand and a style fitting its theme.

4. Käpy selän alla / Skin, Skin (1966, Mikko Niskanen) 7/10
Playful film about the tribulations of two young couples going on a camping trip. Nothing extraordinary in any way, but just quite fun to watch the (sexual) tensions between the persons.
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I'll inverse that order, while stealing the slick layout.

1. Käpy selän alla / Skin, Skin (1966, Mikko Niskanen) 8/10
Very good because of the playful and creative way it is filmed. Felt refreshing and pleasantly new wavish.

2. Mang jing / Blind Shaft (2003, Yang Li) 7.5/10
Solid noir, truly entertaining and pretty raw.

3. Hei yan quan / I Don't Want to Sleep Alone (2006, Ming-liang Tsai) 6/10
Visually stunning, but unlike most of Tsai's films I have seen, I couldn't relate to this film in any way.

4. Arrebato / Rapture (1979, Iván Zulueta) 5/10
Not sure why, but I generally don't like drug-fuelled psycho-trippy seventies films, and that's what this basically is, so I didn't like this one either.
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Image Mang jing: 1.708 (55-17)
Image Arrebato: 2.167 (44-28)
Image Hei yan quan: 3 (24-48)
Image Käpy selän alla: 3.125 (21-51)
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1. Käpy selän alla
2. Mang jing
3. Arrebato
4. Hei yan quan

Solid group :)
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suddenly 3 number ones for Finland
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1. Mang jing
2. Käpy selän alla
3. Arrebato
4. Hei yan quan
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Finland trying for a comeback, China continuing to build on its lead. Will Spain be able to hold off? Stay tuned!
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Not a chance, it's too far behind
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Another great round, congratulations to the managers for their excellent country choices,

1. Hei yan quan
2. Arrebato
3. Käpy selän alla
4. Mang jing
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1. Arrebato (Spain) 9/10
2. Käpy selän alla (Finland) 7/10
3. Hei yan quan (Malaysia) 7/10
4. Mang jing (China) 7/10
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01. Mang Jing

02. Hei yan quan

03. Arrebato

04. Käpy selän alla
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1. Arrebato
2. Mang jing
3. Käpy selän alla
4. Hei yan quan
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1. HEI YAN QUAN
2. KÄPY SELÄN ALLA
3. MANG JING
4. ARREBATO
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1. Mang Jing - 8.5/10
2. Käpy selän alla - 7/10
3. Hei yan quan - 5.5/10
4. Arrebato - 3/10

Mang Jing
- I went in without knowing anything about the movie, so what happened in the beginning was a total surprise for me. The ending however was rather predictable.
Käpy selän alla - I liked the light touch this was filmed with even though it deals with stuff that maybe isn't all that light.
Hei yan quan - I wanted to know more about the background of the characters and why they acted like they acted.
Arrebato - I really disliked the weird, obnoxious characters.
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JVV very close to mine :thumbsup:
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Image Arrebato: 2.281 (55-41)
Image Käpy selän alla: 2.938 (34-62)
Image Hei yan quan: 2.938 (34-62)
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1. Mang jing
2. Arrebato (Will More (Pedro) died on 2017 :( )
3. Käpy selän alla
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mjf314 on Feb 5 2018, 12:22:29 AM wrote:1. Arrebato
2. Mang jing
3. Käpy selän alla
4. Hei yan quan
I had a feeling your would vote like this...
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1. Mang Jing - (l)
2. Hei yan quan - 7-/10
3. Arrebato - 6+/10
4. Käpy selän alla - 6/10
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I don't want to sleep alone is my second favorite Tsai after The Hole ( watched 6 of him). The fact that a renowned Taiwanese director uses two popular Tamil songs in his soundtrack got me surprised and curious before watching but this being a Malaysian film setting in Malaysia and those songs coming in TV, it was no surprise anymore.
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tommy_leazaq on Feb 5 2018, 11:47:07 PM wrote:I don't want to sleep alone is my second favorite Tsai after The Hole ( watched 6 of him). The fact that a renowned Taiwanese director uses two popular Tamil songs in his soundtrack got me surprised and curious before watching but this being a Malaysian film setting in Malaysia and those songs coming in TV, it was no surprise anymore.
A bit out of topic, but do Malaysia and Iran have close relationship with India?

I remembered that I recommended an Iranian film Gheysar before, and you replied that you had seen similar plots in many Iranian films. And your comments on my Iranian WC choice The Deer are the same.
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zhangalan on Feb 6 2018, 05:02:49 AM wrote:
tommy_leazaq on Feb 5 2018, 11:47:07 PM wrote:I don't want to sleep alone is my second favorite Tsai after The Hole ( watched 6 of him). The fact that a renowned Taiwanese director uses two popular Tamil songs in his soundtrack got me surprised and curious before watching but this being a Malaysian film setting in Malaysia and those songs coming in TV, it was no surprise anymore.
A bit out of topic, but do Malaysia and Iran have close relationship with India?

I remembered that I recommended an Iranian film Gheysar before, and you replied that you had seen similar plots in many Iranian films. And your comments on my Iranian WC choice The Deer are the same.
Tsai is actually Malaysian; he didn't move to Taiwan until his 20s.

Malaysia is connected to India largely through it's significant Tamil/South Indian community here (Malaysia is roughly 2/3 Malay, 1/4 Chinese, and 1/10 Indian).
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1. Arrebato (Spain): This became one of my favorite movies all time. I recommended it to a bunch of friends.
2. I Don't Want to Sleep Alone (Malaysia): Loved it
3. Skin, Skin (Finland): Meh
4. Blind Shaft (China): Interesting but nothing special
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sacmersault on Feb 7 2018, 07:36:18 PM wrote:1. Arrebato (Spain): This became one of my favorite movies all time. I recommended it to a bunch of friends.
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zhangalan on Feb 6 2018, 05:02:49 AM wrote:
tommy_leazaq on Feb 5 2018, 11:47:07 PM wrote:I don't want to sleep alone is my second favorite Tsai after The Hole ( watched 6 of him). The fact that a renowned Taiwanese director uses two popular Tamil songs in his soundtrack got me surprised and curious before watching but this being a Malaysian film setting in Malaysia and those songs coming in TV, it was no surprise anymore.
A bit out of topic, but do Malaysia and Iran have close relationship with India?

I remembered that I recommended an Iranian film Gheysar before, and you replied that you had seen similar plots in many Iranian films. And your comments on my Iranian WC choice The Deer are the same.
As Fergenaprido said, Malaysia has significant Tamil community. Tamil movies have very good box office collections over there. So that's why I wasn't surprised to see Tamil songs in this Malaysian film.

And I have heard somewhere that many Pre-Revolution Iranian films inspired from Indian films and with those two films you have mentioned I can see its relations. Also three centuries worth of Mughal Empires in the Northern India has made us familiar with Persian culture.
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Blind Shaft...67...Thoroughly engaging from the beginning to the end.

Arrebato...64...Found it bit boring and hard to follow at the start and was wondering to place it 3rd or 4th. Then the RED SPOT came and elevated the film to almost to first position.

I Don't Want to Sleep Alone...61...As with any contemplative film, it's all about how it connects with you. This film did well on that front with me and had some great moments (esp with the Bed).

Under Your Skin...53...Better than expected but that was not enough



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Could some one help with the Arrebato's ending
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What's with the gun sound at the end? It totally looked out of place with all the mysticism throughout the film. Almost all the 70s Spainish films I have seen has something to do with Franco reign. Is it also related to that? I don't have much knowledge to the political situation of the post-Franco Spain so any help would be appreciated. Also could not find any information on this in net except an IMDb trivia that states this was not supposed to be the intended end by the Director and the person who suggested this regretted it later. Too late! it almost spoiled the mood it developed for me. And wonder what is the original end thought out by the Director.
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1. Hei yan quan - 7.9
2. Arrebato - 7.7
3. Mang jing - 7.4
4. Käpy selän alla - 6.4
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tommy_leazaq on Feb 9 2018, 12:01:14 PM wrote:Could some one help with the Arrebato's ending
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What's with the gun sound at the end? It totally looked out of place with all the mysticism throughout the film. Almost all the 70s Spainish films I have seen has something to do with Franco reign. Is it also related to that? I don't have much knowledge to the political situation of the post-Franco Spain so any help would be appreciated. Also could not find any information on this in net except an IMDb trivia that states this was not supposed to be the intended end by the Director and the person who suggested this regretted it later. Too late! it almost spoiled the mood it developed for me. And wonder what is the original end thought out by the Director.
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It remains a bit open to interpretation but from what I've read there are no political overtones in this case (one might be tempted to think of censorship as the cause of the disappearance of part of the film Pedro is making and the characters themselves), only the idea of self-destruction and transcendence through the use of drugs and cinema and perhaps a connection with vampirism (Zulueta was apparently interested in horror) being the camera the element that sucks life leaving a red mark behind. Of course, the sound of a gun-machine at the very moment of the final rapture is totally unfitting for those concepts, as you and the IMDb trivia remark.
There is an interesting doc in RTVE about the film (28 min, only Spanish).
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Arrebato/Rapture - saw this a few months ago. It took a while for me to warm up to it, but I started to get drawn into the characters and the mystery, and the queer element intrigued me as well because I wasn't aware of it before watching. It's not the type of film I would typically enjoy, but it's just strange enough without being too weird to fall into a "comfortable" spot for me.
Hei yan quan/I Don't Want to Sleep Alone - I anticipated this for a long time; watched it with a local friend, and I got a bit more context out of it. I enjoyed seeing places from the city I live in, and the shots in the abandoned building are fascinating. A lot less dialogue than I was expecting, but after some time it fit right in. Only my second Tsai (after the previous WC entry), so I'm still not sure what I think of him. If his other films are more like Sleep than Rebels, then this may work out.
Mang jing/Blind Shaft - It hits you hard (literally and figuratively) right from the start. I knew what it was about, but it caught me off guard that it happened so quickly, and it took me some time to fully understand who the characters were. One problem I have with foreign-language films (and it's a problem with me, not with the films) is that I often have difficulty distinguishing between good acting and bad acting simply because I don't understand the nuances of the language. This is amplified with a tonal language like Chinese. At first I disliked the simplistic boy character, but then I realized he was perfect. The ending was predictable, but I don't think I would have wanted it to end any other way.
Käpy sëlan alla/Skin, Skin - dreary moody coeds with a very '60s vibe to it. I just didn't get into it, and it very much feels like a product of the times.
When I saw that I was drawn into the same pool as Spain I started to get worried, because I'd enjoyed Arrebato more than my own pick. At this point, it seems like the top two are decided, though which one will come out on top remains to be seen. Still, I'm glad a number of folks really liked my pick, and I was able to showcase Malaysia a bit more.

1. Spain - Arrebato - 7.8/10
2. China - Mang jing - 7.6/10
3. Malaysia - Hei yan quan - 7.4/10
4. Finland - Käpy sëlan alla - 7.0/10

Overall a decent group. Cheers to the other managers :cheers:
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I haven't kept track of this stat, but I think you're the first manager to vote his movie #3.
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joachimt on Feb 11 2018, 10:56:29 AM wrote:I haven't kept track of this stat, but I think you're the first manager to vote his movie #3.
I was tempted to put it at #2, but I had to check myself; If I was rating those films without thinking about the World Cup, China would come out on top, so I had to vote that way.

I think in the previous cup someone voted their film last in the first round, but I don't rightfully remember.
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Fergenaprido on Feb 11 2018, 10:53:21 AM wrote:
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Arrebato/Rapture - saw this a few months ago. It took a while for me to warm up to it, but I started to get drawn into the characters and the mystery, and the queer element intrigued me as well because I wasn't aware of it before watching. It's not the type of film I would typically enjoy, but it's just strange enough without being too weird to fall into a "comfortable" spot for me.
Hei yan quan/I Don't Want to Sleep Alone - I anticipated this for a long time; watched it with a local friend, and I got a bit more context out of it. I enjoyed seeing places from the city I live in, and the shots in the abandoned building are fascinating. A lot less dialogue than I was expecting, but after some time it fit right in. Only my second Tsai (after the previous WC entry), so I'm still not sure what I think of him. If his other films are more like Sleep than Rebels, then this may work out.
Mang jing/Blind Shaft - It hits you hard (literally and figuratively) right from the start. I knew what it was about, but it caught me off guard that it happened so quickly, and it took me some time to fully understand who the characters were. One problem I have with foreign-language films (and it's a problem with me, not with the films) is that I often have difficulty distinguishing between good acting and bad acting simply because I don't understand the nuances of the language. This is amplified with a tonal language like Chinese. At first I disliked the simplistic boy character, but then I realized he was perfect. The ending was predictable, but I don't think I would have wanted it to end any other way.
Käpy sëlan alla/Skin, Skin - dreary moody coeds with a very '60s vibe to it. I just didn't get into it, and it very much feels like a product of the times.
When I saw that I was drawn into the same pool as Spain I started to get worried, because I'd enjoyed Arrebato more than my own pick. At this point, it seems like the top two are decided, though which one will come out on top remains to be seen. Still, I'm glad a number of folks really liked my pick, and I was able to showcase Malaysia a bit more.

1. Spain - Arrebato - 7.8/10
2. China - Mang jing - 7.6/10
3. Malaysia - Hei yan quan - 7.4/10
4. Finland - Käpy sëlan alla - 7.0/10

Overall a decent group. Cheers to the other managers :cheers:
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Two days left. 1A had 47 votes. 1B currently has 39. Can we reach the same level?

Image Mang jing: 1.872 (83-34)
Image Arrebato: 2.179 (71-46)
Image Hei yan quan: 2.897 (43-74)
Image Käpy selän alla: 3.051 (37-80)
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so, that dance hall/gazebo scene in Käpy selän alla, I've seen that before, right? Is it in a Kaurismaki film? Is that just like a Finnish thing to do? Was it Juha? It was all very familiar. I feel like there was a close-up of a hi-hat in that one as well.
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